Suburbs of Cooperstown Draft

[leecemark]

--This thread will be reserved exclusively for participants in this project to make their picks of the best players outside Cooperstown. Any posts except for actual picks will be deleted. There is a separate thread up for discussion of this project. Please direct all comments, suggestions, etc to that thread.
--We will be picking 10 teams of 20 players each. The rosters will consist of the starting lineup, a backup C, backup IF and backup OF, 5 starting pitchers, one relief ace and either three additional bench players or two bench players and a second reliever. Once we have elected the 200 members of the Suburbs of Cooperstown we will have a supplemental draft to get the rosters to 25 and run a sim (or sims) with the teams. The simulation is strictly a secondary project though and this draft is being conducted strictly on the basis of "most deserving outside Cooperstown" and not to build the best sim team.
--The eligible pool will be all players on the BWAA 2009 ballot with the exception of Rickey Henderson (we are assuming he will be elected), all players who might be considered by the VC and Negro Leaguers who might be considered if that pool were to be revisited. The intent of this project is to be as inclusive as possible. The only players speciificly excluded are; active players, players who retired after 2003, ineligible players and players who careers were primarily outside the United States.
--The draft will officially commence at midnight EST, February 20, Picks may be made prior to that, but the clock will not start running until then. The clock will be 18 hours from the previous pick, although participants are encouraged to pick as promptly as possible when their turn comes around. For participants at the either end of the draft the 18 hours will be their clock for making both their picks.

Round One
1) Jim Albright: Bert Blyleven
2) JJPM74: Bill Dahlen
3) J W: Dick Allen
4) Double X: Ron Santo
5) Chickalooza: Tim Raines
6) Leecemark : Alan Trammell
7) Paul Wendt: Deacon White
8) Freakshow: Mark McGwire
9) Classic Bobby Grich
10) Baseball PAP: Albert Belle

Round Two
11) Baseball PAP: John Beckwith
12) Classic: Dick Lundy
13) Freakshow: Ted Simmons
14) Paul Wendt: Paul Hines
15) Leecemark Bill Freehan
16) Chickalooza: Joe Torre
17) Double X: Will Clark
18) J W: Carl Mays
19) JJPM74: George Van Haltren
20) Jim Albright: Dobie Moore

Round Three
21) Jim Albright: Quincy Trouppe
22) JJPM74: Charlie Bennett
23) J W: Bob Caruthers
24) Double X: Jimmy Wynn
25) Chickalooza: John Donaldson
26) Leecemark: Minnie Minoso
27) Paul Wendt Jack Glasscock
28) Freakshow: Sherry Magee
29) Classic: Ken Boyer
30) Baseball PAP: Wes Ferrell

Round Four
31) Baseball PAP: Doc White
32) Classic: Lance Parrish
33) Freakshow: Dickey Pearce
34) Paul Wendt: Hardy Richardson
35) Leecemark: Lou Whitaker
36) Chickalooza: Dwight Evans
37) Double X: Joe Gordon
38) J W: Stan Hack
39) JJPM74: Andre Dawson
40) Jim Albright: Larry Doyle

Round Five
41) Jim Albright: Dan Quisenberry
42) JJPM74: Harry Stovey
43) J W: Wally Berger
44) Double X: Bobby Bonds
45) Chickalooza: Vern Stephens
46) Leecemark: Tony Mullane
47) Paul Wendt: Cal McVey
48) Freakshow: George Gore
49) Classic: Billy Pierce
50) Baseball PAP: Cesar Cedeno

Round Six
51) Baseball PAP: Ross Barnes
52) Classic: Luis Tiant
53) Freakshow: Darrell Evans
54) Paul Wendt: Charley Jones
55) Leecemark: Tommy Bridges
56) Chickalooza: Norm Cash
57) Double X: Dave Stieb
58) J W: Cupid Childs
59) JJPM74: Joe Start
60) Jim Albright: Charlie Keller

Round Seven
61) Jim Albright: Frank Howard
62) JJPM74: Wilbur Cooper
63) J W: Joe Wood
64) Double X: Bob Johnson
65) Chickalooza: Dale Murphy
66) Leecemark: Al Rosen
67) Paul Wendt: Lip Pike
68) Freakshow: Reggie Smith
69) Classic: Dave Orr
70) Baseball PAP: Harry Brecheen

Round Eight
71) Baseball PAP: Ken Singleton
72) Classic: Ron Guidry
73) Freakshow: Willie Randolph
74) Paul Wendt: Heinie Groh
75) leecemark: Keith Hernandez
76) Chickalooza: Bob Elliott
77) Double X: Thurman Munson
78) J W: Babe Adams
79) JJPM74: Jack Morris
80) Jim Albright; Dave Parker

Round Nine
81) Jim Albright Alejandro Oms
82) JJPM74: Cannonball Dick Redding
83) J W: Grant Johnson
84) Double X: Tommy John
85) Chickazoola: Del Pratt
86) Leecemark: Tony Oliva
87) Paul Wendt Brett Saberhagen
88) Freakshow: Urban Shocker
89) Classic: David Cone
90) Baseball PAP: Wally Schang

Round Ten
91) Baseball Pap: Herman Long
92) Classic: Gavvy Cravath
93) Freakshow: Lon Warneke
94) Paul Wendt: Dolf Luque
95) Leecemark: Bucky Walters
96) Chickazoola: Sam Leever
97) Double X: Chuck Finley
98) J W: Bobby Murcer
99) JJPM74: Vida Blue
100) Jim Albright : Hippo Vaughn

Round 11
101) Jim Albright: Dizzy Trout
102) JJPM74: Lee Smith
103) J W: Jimmy Ryan
104) Double X: Orel Hershiser
105) Chickazoola: Eddie Rommel
106) Leecemark: Fred Lynn
107) Paul Wendt : Sal Maglie
108) Freakshow: Jimmy Key
109) Classic: Tom Henke
110) Baseball PAP: John Hiller

Round 12
111) PAP: Jack Fournier
112) Classic: Ken Williams
113) FS: John Wetteland
114) PW: Sparky Lyle
115) LM: Firpo Marberry
116) Chick: Doug Jones
117) XX: Tony Fernandez
118) JW: Pete Browning
119) JJ: Buddy Myer
120) Jim Bus Clarkson

Round 13
121) Jim Albright: Johnny Pesky
122) JJPM74: Harvey Kuenn
123) J W: Gene Tenace
124) Double X: Dick McAuliffe
125) Chickazoola: Deacon Phillipe
126) Leecemark: Tommy Leach
127) Paul Wendt: Jack Rowe
128) Freakshow: Dutch Leonard
129) Classic: Mike Donlin
130) Baseball PAP: Dennis Martinez

Round 14
131) Baseball Pap: Tony Phillips
132) Classic: Cy Williams
133) Freakshow: Ezra Sutton
134) Paul Wendt: Don Newcombe
135) Leecemark: Mickey Lolich
136) Chickazoola: Silver King
137) Double X: Kent Tekulve
138) J W: Tug McGraw
139) JJPM74: Oliver Marcelle
140) Jim Albright : Nip Winters

Round 15
141) Jim Albright: Jim Kaat
142) JJPM74: Smokey Burgess
143) J W: Tom Haller
144) Double X: Jim McCormick
145) Chickazoola: Ted Radcliffe
146) Leecemark: Virgil Trucks
147) Paul Wendt: Ed Williamson
148) Freakshow: Elston Howard
149) Classic: Don Mattingly
150) Baseball PAP: Wilbur Wood

Round 16
151) Baseball Pap: Wild Bill Wright
152) Classic: Pedro Guerrero
153) Freakshow: Jesse Tannehill
154) Paul Wendt: Mike Tiernan
155) Leecemark: Graig Nettles
156) Chickazoola: Jimmy Sheckard
157) Double X: Boog Powell
158) J W: Darryl Strawberry
159) JJPM74: Dave Foutz
160) Jim Albright : George J Burns

Round 17
161) Jim Albright: Jack Clark
162) JJPM74: Jim Rice
163) J W: Mike Cuellar
164) Double X: Darrell Porter
165) Chickazoola: Davey Conception
166) Leecemark: Rocky Colavito
167) Paul Wendt: Luke Easter
168) Freakshow: Rusty Staub
169) Classic: Jose Rijo
170) Baseball PAP: Jim Fregosi

Round 18
171) Baseball Pap: Darren Daulton
172) Classic: Lefty O'Doul
173) Freakshow: Jesse Orosco
174) Paul Wendt: Bill Monroe
175) Leecemark: Gil McDougald
176) Chickazoola: Fred Dunlap
177) Double X: Bobby Veach
178) J W: Maury Wills
179) JJPM74: Kid Gleason
180) Jim Albright : Chino Smith

Round 19
181) Jim Albright: Sherm Lollar
182) JJPM74: Dave Righetti
183) J W: Gil Hodges
184) Double X: Eric Davis
185) Chickazoola: Steve Garvey
186) Leecemark: Chief Myers
187) Paul Wendt: Jack Quinn
188) Freakshow: Dave Lopes
189) Classic: Rico Carty
190) Baseball PAP: Lindy McDaniel

Round 20
191) Baseball Pap: Don McMahon
192) Classic: Dave Smith
193) Freakshow: Bert Campaneris
194) Paul Wendt: Fielder Jones
195) Leecemark: Al Oliver
196) Chickazoola: Jeff Reardon
197) Double X: Roy White
198) J W: Ron Cey
199) JJPM74: Johnny Kling
200) Jim Albright : Sal Bando



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The Managers

1) Jim Albright: C I Taylor
2) JJPM74: Billy Martin
3) J W: Davey Johnson
4) Double X: Whitey Herzog
5) Chickazoola: Vic Harris
6) Leecemark: Charley Grimm
7) Paul Wendt: Frank Bancroft
8) Freakshow: Gene Mauch
9) Classic: Danny Murtaugh
10) Baseball PAP: Buck O'Neil

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Supplemental Rounds
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**Note: These players are not intended to be part of the Cooperstown discussion. The are merely intended to complete our 25 man rosters. The selection process here is geared toward putting the finishing touches on a competitive team and NOT on identifying players with a good (or even reasonable) case for the Hall of Fame

Round 21
201) Baseball Pap: Buck O'Neil2
202) Classic: Mickey Tettleton
203) Freakshow: Elmer Smith
204) Paul Wendt: Noodles Hahn
205) Leecemark: Ron Perranoski
206) Chickazoola: Rich McKinney
207) Double X: Ed Ruelbach
208) J W: Dick Hall
209) JJPM74: Rick Agulera
210) Jim Albright : Ellis Kinder

Round 22
211) Jim Albright: Bobby Shantz
212) JJPM74: Mike Marshall
213) J W: Slim Sallee
214) Double X: Jeff Montgomery
215) Chickazoola: Larry French
216) Leecemark: Mark Eichhorn
217) Paul Wendt: Andy Messersmith
218) Freakshow: Robb Nen
219) Classic: Mark Belanger
220) Baseball PAP: Pete Runnels

Round 23
221) Baseball Pap: Ted Kluzewski
222) Classic: Bill Joyce
223) Freakshow: Jack Stivetts
224) Paul Wendt: Reb Russell
225) Leecemark: Randy Myers
226) Chickazoola:Dick Radatz
227) Double X: Gary Lavelle
228) J W: John Candelaria
229) JJPM74: Don Plesac
230) Jim Albright : Todd Worrell

Round 24
231) Jim Albright: Al Holland
232) JJPM74: Howard Johnson
233) J W: Dave McNally
234) Double X: Matt Williams
235) Chickazoola: Terry Moore
236) Leecemark: Mike Henneman
237) Paul Wendt: Roy Thomas
238) Freakshow: John Tudor
239) Classic: Sudden Sam McDowell
240) Baseball PAP: Terry Forster

Round 25
241) Baseball Pap: Gene Garber
242) Classic: Vada Pinson
243) Freakshow: Tim Burke
244) Paul Wendt: Steve Howe
245) Leecemark: Schoolboy Rowe
246) Chickazoola: Dwight Gooden
247) Double X: Spud Chandler
248) J W: Tommy Bond
249) JJPM74: Harold Baines
250) Jim Albright: Oscar "Heavy" Johnson

[jalbright]

Pick #1--Bert Blyleven

[jjpm74]

Pick #2--Bill Dahlen

[catcher24]

One line post to act as notification of new posts.

[J W]

Pick #3--Dick Allen

[DoubleX]

Pick # 4: Ron Santo

[Chickazoola]

Pick # 5: Tim Raines

[leecemark]

#6 - Alan Trammell

[Paul Wendt]

#7 - Deacon White

[Freakshow]

#8 - Mark McGwire

[Brad Harris]

#9 Bobby Grich

[baseballPAP]

#10 Albert Belle
#11 John Beckwith (closest comp is probably Dick Allen, right down to the attitude)

[Freakshow]

#12 - Ted Simmons

[Paul Wendt]

#13 - Paul Hines

--following Freakshow in labeling this one #13. Is that best, lm?

[Brad Harris]

#14 - Dick Lundy

[leecemark]

#15 - Bill Freehan

[Chickazoola]

#16 - Joe Torre

[DoubleX]

#17 - Will Clark

[J W]

#18 - Carl Mays

[jjpm74]

#19 George Van Haltren

[jalbright]

#20--Dobie Moore
#21--Quincy Trouppe

[jjpm74]

#22 Charlie Bennett

[J W]

#23 - Bob Caruthers

[DoubleX]

# 24 - Jimmy Wynn

[Chickazoola]

# - 25 John Donaldson

[leecemark]

#26 - Minnie Minoso (can't believe he ends up out of the top 2 dozen most deserving)

[Paul Wendt]

#27 - Jack Glasscock

[Freakshow]

#28 - Sherry Magee

[Brad Harris]

#29 - Ken Boyer

[leecemark]

30- Wes Ferrell
31- Doc White

[Brad Harris]

#32 - Lance Parrish

[Freakshow]

#33 - Dickey Pearce

[Paul Wendt]

#34 - Hardy Richardson

[leecemark]

#35 - Lou Whitaker

[Chickazoola]

# 36 - Dwight Evans

[DoubleX]

#37 - Joe Gordon

[J W]

#38 - Stan Hack

[jjpm74]

#39 Andre Dawson

[jalbright]

#40--Larry Doyle, 2b
#41--Dan Quisenberry, rp

[jjpm74]

#42 Harry Stovey

[J W]

#43 - Wally Berger

[DoubleX]

#44 - Bobby Bonds

[Chickazoola]

# 45 - Vern Stephens(Shortstop is getting thinner than Nicole Richie)

[leecemark]

#46 - Tony Mullane (still able to pick somebody I think belongs - even if he wasn't a Tiger:cap:)

[Paul Wendt]

#47 - Cal McVey

Listing at RF for now. See the discussion.
There are several players on the board whom I consistently support. Almost all play 3B or one of the positions I have filled --including McVey if considered a catcher, his single most important position. Hint: see my BBF HOF ballots.

[Freakshow]

#48 - George Gore

[Brad Harris]

#49 - Billy Pierce

[baseballPAP]

A couple of picks form total opposite points of view....
CF-Cesar Cedeno
2B-Ross Barnes

[Brad Harris]

#52 - Luis Tiant

[Freakshow]

#53 - Darrell Evans

[Paul Wendt]

#54 - Charley Jones

because I seem to be researching Charley Jones and seem to be specializing in 1879 players here, nothing to think about.

[leecemark]

#55 - Tommy Bridges

[Chickazoola]

# 56 - Norm Cash(When in doubt draft a bat)

[DoubleX]

Ugh, I had four pitchers in mind when I made my last pick, and I thought at least one of them would make it here - Billy Pierce, Tommy Bridges, Tony Mullane, Luis Tiant - all gone. So I'm panicking somewhat, feeling the need to draft a pitcher. No one really stands out to me at this point so I'm taking a stab at it....

#57 - Dave Stieb - 6 seasons with ERA+ over 130, 4 seasons over 140, seems good enough to me.

[J W]

#58 Cupid Childs

[jjpm74]

#59 Joe Start (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Start)

[jalbright]

#60--Charlie Keller
#61--Frank Howard

[jjpm74]

#62 Wilbur Cooper

[J W]

#63 Smokey Joe Wood

[DoubleX]

I was hoping Frank Howard would slip by to this point. Oh well.

#64 - Bob Johnson

[Chickazoola]

I'll take the two-time MVP, Bob.

#65 - Dale Murphy

[leecemark]

#66 - Al Rosen

[Paul Wendt]

#67 - Lip Pike

Cal McVey sliding down to 1B

[Freakshow]

#68 - Reggie Smith

[Brad Harris]

#69 - Dave Orr

[baseballPAP]

2 nights of light duty jobs at work due to my blood pressure = about 12 hours to think about these picks....only to see ALL of my options fall in like dominos with the previous picks.... :hp

Back to the drawing board.....

LHP Harry Brecheen
RF Ken Singleton

[Brad Harris]

#72 - Ron Guidry

[Freakshow]

#73 - Willie Randolph

[Paul Wendt]

#74 - Heinie Groh

[leecemark]

#75 - Kieth Hernandez (last of the guys I strongly endorse)

[Chickazoola]

#76 - Bob Elliott

[DoubleX]

# 77 - Thurman Munson (figured it's time I get a catcher

[J W]

#78 - Babe Adams

[jjpm74]

#79- Jack Morris

[jalbright]

#80--Dave Parker
#81--Alejandro Oms

[jjpm74]

#82 Cannonball Dick Redding

[J W]

#83 - Grant "Home Run" Johnson

[DoubleX]

# 84 - Tommy John

[Chickazoola]

# 85 - Del Pratt

[J W]

#86 - Tony Oliva (leecemark)

#87 - Bret Saberhagen (Paul Wendt)

[Freakshow]

#88 - Urban Shocker

[Brad Harris]

#89 - David Cone

[jalbright]

Filling in as requested for Baseball PAP:
#90--Wally Schang
#91--Herman Long

[Freakshow]

#92 - Lon Warneke

[Paul Wendt]

#93 - Dolf Luque

He has some place in HOF conversations, thanks to the unusual career path including Cuba and the Negro Leagues(*) before becoming a major league star in the 1920s, age 29-38. Those ten full seasons in Cincinnati were very good, pitching ~ 123 and batting ~ 56. Responsible for a few of those seasons Eppa Rixey "wasn't even the best pitcher on his own team!"

*Luque was white, and preceded the Leagues.

[leecemark]

94) Bucky Walters

[Chickazoola]

95) Sam Leever

[DoubleX]

96 - Chuck Finley - I can't think of a better lefty at this point (EDIT: I forgot I had Tommy John, I kept thinking I had Urban Shocker, whom I was set on drafting until the last minute last time).

[Brad Harris]

#92 - Gavvy Cravath

[J W]

#98 - Bobby Murcer

[jjpm74]

#99 Vida Blue

[jalbright]

#100--Hippo Vaughn
#101--Dizzy Trout

and jjpm, per a PM to me and also in a post in the discussion thread

#102--Lee Smith

[J W]

#103 - Jimmy Ryan

[DoubleX]

Didn't realize I was up

#104 - Orel Hershiser

[Chickazoola]

# 105 Eddie Rommel

[leecemark]

#106 - Fred Lynn

[jalbright]

For Paul Wendt per a PM to me and Freakshow: Sal Maglie

[Freakshow]

#108 - Jimmy Key

[Brad Harris]

#109 - Tom Henke

[baseballPAP]

#110 RP-John Hiller
#111 1B-Jack Fournier

[Brad Harris]

#112 - Ken Williams

[Freakshow]

#113 - John Wetteland

[Paul Wendt]

#114 - Sparky Lyle

[leecemark]

#115 - happy to do it, Firpo Marberry

[Chickazoola]

# - 116 "The Ageless Wonder" Doug Jones

[DoubleX]

# 117 - Tony Fernandez. Figured it's time to get a SS.

[J W]

#118 - Pete Browning

[jjpm74]

#119 Buddy Myer

[jalbright]

#120--Bus Clarkson
#121--Johnny Pesky

[jjpm74]

#122 Harvey Kuenn

[J W]

#123 - Gene Tenace

[DoubleX]

# 124 - Dick McAuliffe (sorry Mark). I like that he can play both SS and 2B.

[Chickazoola]

# 125 - Deacon Phillipe

[Paul Wendt]

# 126 - Jack Rowe

last of the second "Big Four"

[leecemark]

#127 - Tommy Leach

[Freakshow]

#128 - (Emil) Dutch Leonard

[Brad Harris]

#129 - Turkey Mike Donlin

[baseballPAP]

#130 #4 starter-Dennis Martinez
#131 supersub-Tony Phillips

[jjpm74]

Round 14 #139 is being picked out of turn by special permission to clear the way for supersubs.

Ollie Marcelle

[Brad Harris]

#132 - Cy Williams

[Freakshow]

#133 - Ezra Sutton

[Paul Wendt]

#134 - Don Newcombe

[leecemark]

#135 - a nod to my boyhood hero, Micky Lolich

[Chickazoola]

# 136 - The 19th Century Luchador - Silver King

[Freakshow]

#137 - Kent Tekulve

[Paul Wendt]

#138 - Tug McGraw

[jalbright]

#140--Nip Winters
#141--Jim Kaat

[jjpm74]

#142--Smoky Burgess

[Paul Wendt]

#143 - Tom Haller

[Freakshow]

#144 - Jim McCormick

[Chickazoola]

# 145 - Double Duty Radcliffe

[leecemark]

#146 - Virgil Trucks

[Paul Wendt]

#147 - Ed Williamson

[Freakshow]

#148 - Elston Howard

[Brad Harris]

#149 - Don Mattingly

[baseballPAP]

#150 SP/RP Wilbur Wood
#151 OF Wild Bill Wright

[Brad Harris]

#152 - Pedro Guerrero

[Freakshow]

#153 - Jesse Tannehill

[Paul Wendt]

#154 - Mike Tiernan

[leecemark]

#155 - Graig Nettles

[Chickazoola]

# 156 - Jimmy Sheckard

[Freakshow]

#157 - Boog Powell

[J W]

#158 - Darryl Strawberry

[jjpm74]

#159 Dave Foutz

[jalbright]

#160--George J. Burns
#161--Jack Clark

[jjpm74]

#162--Jim Rice

[J W]

#163 - Mike Cuellar

[Freakshow]

#164 - Darrell Porter

[Chickazoola]

# 165 - Dave Concepcion

[leecemark]

#166 -Rocky Colavito

[Paul Wendt]

#167 - Luke Easter

[Freakshow]

#168 - Rusty Staub

[Brad Harris]

#169 - Jose Rijo

[baseballPAP]

#170 Jim Fregosi
#171 Darren Daulton

[Brad Harris]

#172 - Lefty O'Doul

[Freakshow]

#173 - Jesse Orosco

[Paul Wendt]

#174 - Bill Monroe

[leecemark]

#175 - Gil McDougald

[Chickazoola]

# 176 - Fred Dunlap

[Freakshow]

#177 - Bobby Veach

[J W]

#178 - Maury Wills

[jjpm74]

#179--Kid Gleason

[jalbright]

#180--Chino Smith
#181--Sherm Lollar

[jjpm74]

#182--Dave Righetti

[J W]

#183 - Gil Hodges

[DoubleX]

# 184 - Eric Davis - Often hurt, but he could play and seems well suited for a bench role.

[Chickazoola]

# 185 - Steve Garvey (was Keith Hernandez)

[Paul Wendt]

Mark put me on the clock this morning. Quoting page one
186) Leecemark: Chief Myers
187) Paul Wendt: on the clock til 330 AM, 3/23

[Paul Wendt]

#187 - Jack Quinn

[Freakshow]

#188 - Davey Lopes

[Brad Harris]

#189 - Rico Carty

[baseballPAP]

#190 Lindy McDaniel
#191 Don McMahon

[Brad Harris]

#192 - Dave Smith

[Freakshow]

#193 - Bert Campaneris

[Paul Wendt]

#194 - Fielder Jones

[leecemark]

195 - Al Oliver

[Chickazoola]

# 196 - Jeff Reardon

[DoubleX]

# 197 - Roy White

[J W]

#198 - Ron Cey (edit)

[jjpm74]

#199--Johnny Kling

[jalbright]

#200--Sal Bando

[baseballPAP]

201-2 birds with one stone....slick fielding, little power, but a true asset to the game. I'm thinking Mark Grace as a comp....but based on rep, not any available numbers.....
Buck O'Neill, player/manager

[Brad Harris]

Manager - Danny Murtaugh (unless Chickazoola or Freakshow want him?)

[Chickazoola]

I already picked Vic Harris.

[jjpm74]

Here's the 10 managers who were drafted:

Here's the list of 10 managers who were drafted:

1. CI Taylor
2. Billy Martin
3. Whitey Herzog
4. Davey Johnson
5. Vic Harris
6. Charlie Grimm
7. Frank Bancroft
8. Gene Mauch
9. Danny Murtaugh
10. Buck O'Neil

It looks like Classic is the next person to pick in the player draft.

We're at #202 in the draft as PAP used #201 to draft O'Neil both as manager and player.

[leecemark]

Scott, you can take another player and use O'Neil as a manager only of you wish. Buck would be by far the worst player in this league if you use him as one. Vic Power is a generous comp for O'Neil.

[baseballPAP]

Buck as a backup 1Bman is fine with me.....for sim purposes, he'll hardly ever see the field in any case. I'm going strictly roleplayers in the back end of this thing, so I'm not worried about wasting a space.

[Brad Harris]

#202 - Mickey Tettleton

[Freakshow]

#203 - Elmer Smith

[Paul Wendt]

#204 - Noodles Frank Hahn

[leecemark]

205 - Ron Perranoski

[Chickazoola]

206 - Rich McKinney

[DoubleX]

207 - Ed Reulbach

[J W]

#208 - Dick Hall

[jjpm74]

#209 Rick Aguilera

[jalbright]

#210--Ellis Kinder
#211--Bobby Shantz

[jjpm74]

#212--Mike Marshall

[J W]

#213 - Slim Sallee

[DoubleX]

# 214 - Jeff Montgomery

[Chickazoola]

215 - Larry French

[jalbright]

#217
bypassing leecemark, who has been on the clock nearly 23 hours now, and on behalf of Paul Wendt, at his instruction:

Andy Messersmith

[Freakshow]

#218 - Robb Nen

[jalbright]

Just a note that leecemark posted his pick #216, Mark Eichorn, in the draft thread.

[Brad Harris]

#219 - Mark Belanger

[baseballPAP]

220-Pete Runnels
221-Ted Kluszewski

[Brad Harris]

222 - Bill Joyce

[Freakshow]

#223 - Jack Stivetts

[Paul Wendt]

#224 - Reb Russell

[leecemark]

225 - Randy Myers

[Chickazoola]

226 - Dick Radatz

[DoubleX]

227 - Gary Lavelle - Seems like a decent enough lefty in the pen.

[jjpm74]

#228--Dan Plesac

[jjpm74]

#229--Howard Johnson

[jalbright]

#230--Todd Worrell
#231--Al Holland

[J W]

#232 (#228) - John Candelaria
#233 - Dave McNally

[DoubleX]

#234 - Matt Williams

[Chickazoola]

235 - Terry Moore

[leecemark]

236 - Mike Henneman

[Paul Wendt]

#237 - Roy Thomas

[Freakshow]

#238 - John Tudor

[Brad Harris]

239 - Sudden Sam McDowell

[baseballPAP]

2 pitchers, to make 10 total:
#240-<EDIT> Terry Forster
#241-Gene Garber

[Brad Harris]

#242 - Vada Pinson

[Freakshow]

#243 - Tim Burke

[Paul Wendt]

#244 - Steve Howe

[leecemark]

245 - Schoolboy Rowe

[Chickazoola]

246 - Dwight Gooden

[J W]

#247 - Tommy Bond

[jjpm74]

#248 Harold Baines

[DoubleX]

# 249 - Spud Chandler

[jalbright]

Oscar "Heavy" Johnson, who can catch, play outfield, and, oh yes, hit. Not a great glove, but a nice bat.

[leecemark]

--That concludes the draft. Thanks everyone. I haven't had much time to work on building the teams for the sim. I'll try and get that put together in the fairly near future. The first follow on project is already underway. The cather discussion thread. If you haven't put your two cents in there, please do so. The firstbase thread will be up shortly.

[jjpm74]

Maybe one of the moderators could update the first page with all the remaining picks so that when someone pulls this thread up again, it's there for easy reference.

[leecemark]

--I'll get that done. Could every one else please make sure their rosters are up to date. It will make building the teams much simpler.