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fenrir
02-18-2008, 01:45 PM
as a DH in the al? or does he bring too much baggage with his legal situation?
170 ops+ in 126 games is what he posted last year...he still hits for good power, but his best skill as of now is still taking the walk. if he were to sign with an mlb team, which team could use him? maybe the angels?
Wade8813
02-18-2008, 01:59 PM
There's a lot of factors. If he's willing to play for a very small amount of money, the risk to the team is minimal, but you still have to deal with an unpopular player with some personality issues.
cbenson5
02-18-2008, 04:18 PM
I still think Bonds is worth signing despite the controversy that follows him. He is simply too valuable of a hitter. I would even take him as a left fielder. Of course, this is assuming he is willing to sign a reasonable contract.
I would be too worried about him affecting the other players who may not like him, or be annoyed that he would overshadow the whole team no matter how well be played. And i dont think he'd post anything nearly good enough numbers to offset the burden he would bring.
Old Sweater
02-18-2008, 06:09 PM
A sure profit for any club that wants a good slugger. More fans in the seats and more national coverage on TV for sure.
bigtime39
02-19-2008, 11:43 AM
Pros: he can likely still hit the living daylights out of the ball.
Cons: everything else about him...especially the prospect of losing your newly acquired slugger to prison at an inopportune time.
I'd likely pass.
DodgerBlue81
02-19-2008, 01:59 PM
His career is likely over. I don't see anyone signing him.
fenrir
02-19-2008, 02:41 PM
Pros: he can likely still hit the living daylights out of the ball.
Cons: everything else about him...especially the prospect of losing your newly acquired slugger to prison at an inopportune time.
I'd likely pass.
yeah i pretty much agree with you here.
Wade8813
02-19-2008, 03:14 PM
Prison time is definitely a risk, but if he signed a small enough contract, or one with some sort of prison-clause (lol...), it might well be worth the risk.
Knick9
02-19-2008, 04:47 PM
No, it's not worth it to sign Bonds. He carries too much baggage and the negativity will have its toll on the team that signs him. You want to risk getting more money at the expense of getting more headaches and distractions?
I'd say no, let him retire.
Dodgerfan1
02-19-2008, 05:05 PM
Honestly, I'd be more concerned about his health than his hitting, although he isn't the monster he once was at the plate. He's had some suspect wheels for a while now and any day, they could cave in on him. He would most certainly be a DH. I'm convinced as I could possibly be that he was 'roided up for some time, and if he's likely to curb the usage even further than he probably has, he's prone to feeling his age. Meaning likely injuries, IMO. I know one thing, I sure as hell hope the Dodgers wouldn't even be interested in a sniff of this guy. Bad news from both a salary and a distraction standpoint.
RubeBaker
02-19-2008, 06:23 PM
Cons: everything else about him...especially the prospect of losing your newly acquired slugger to prison at an inopportune time.
That would mean teams liek the Devil Rays wouldn't have anything to worry about.
Go Cardinals
02-19-2008, 08:24 PM
Swing is still amazing:
http://www.hittingillustrated.com/library/Bonds4.gif
I'd take him...
baseball junkie
02-19-2008, 08:27 PM
I think the Red Sux should definitely sign Bonds. That has nothing to do, however, with me hating them.
bigtime39
02-19-2008, 08:27 PM
That would mean teams liek the Devil Rays wouldn't have anything to worry about.
1) Teams like the Devil Rays likely wouldn't have a use for him, and
2) he'd likely not go to a team like the Devil Rays
Regardless of the prison situation, the market of teams looking for Bonds' services would be small. You'd pretty much have to be a team with a hole at DH, and plenty of cash to burn. I don't think Bonds is ready yet to sell himself cheap.
I heard somewhere that he'll likely end up in Japan.
Old Sweater
02-20-2008, 05:20 AM
1) Teams like the Devil Rays likely wouldn't have a use for him, and
2) he'd likely not go to a team like the Devil Rays
Regardless of the prison situation, the market of teams looking for Bonds' services would be small. You'd pretty much have to be a team with a hole at DH, and plenty of cash to burn. I don't think Bonds is ready yet to sell himself cheap.
I heard somewhere that he'll likely end up in Japan.
He would be the perfect fit for the Yankees if it wasn't for Giambi's contract and and more legal controversy for the team. Last year Bonds put up good stats, with that pop gun offense that the Giants had, with Bonds being the only batter with a slg% over .500 for full time players.
Mattingly
02-20-2008, 08:17 AM
I think the Red Sux should definitely sign Bonds. That has nothing to do, however, with me hating them.
Can we please leave the name-calling of other teams to the mlb.com forums?
I would pass on Bonds also. He can still swing the bat, but between the perjury trial, strong allegations of steroid usage over the years, uncertainty as to whether he's clean or not, possible jail time, I don't see the reason for putting him on anyone's roster.
He would be the perfect fit for the Yankees if it wasn't for Giambi's contract and and more legal controversy for the team. Last year Bonds put up good stats, with that pop gun offense that the Giants had, with Bonds being the only batter with a slg% over .500 for full time players.
I think that between Giambi, Sheffield, Clemens, Pettitte and Knoblauch, we've already had enough people taking one kind of PED or the next.
Why would Bonds be ideal for the Yankees, as opposed to any other AL team?
Mattingly
02-20-2008, 08:20 AM
Swing is still amazing:
http://www.hittingillustrated.com/library/Bonds4.gif
I'd take him...
As a Cardinal? Barry Bonds on an NL team when he can barely run in LF?
If not, then which AL team were you referring to?
Old Sweater
02-20-2008, 08:37 AM
I think that between Giambi, Sheffield, Clemens, Pettitte and Knoblauch, we've already had enough people taking one kind of PED or the next.
Why would Bonds be ideal for the Yankees, as opposed to any other AL team?
Yankees have a target on their back and Bonds has already been accused. I did say 'except for Giambi or his legal controversy' so I already covered this once.:confused:
I'd rather have his bat then oppose it. A Rod then Bonds or vice versa.
fenrir
02-20-2008, 10:33 AM
baseball doesnt test for HGH. Bonds won't decline :rofl:
rockin500
02-20-2008, 08:17 PM
Why would Bonds be ideal for the Yankees, as opposed to any other AL team?
if it wasnt for giambi and the other huge contracts, the yankees wouldnt be a bad place for him to land for in baseball terms. Think about the porch. hes got the perfect swing for it.
other factors of course he probably wouldnt fit in too well with the yanks focus on team first. and him with girardi managing? yikes!
KCGHOST
02-21-2008, 09:01 AM
As a GM I would pass. To much baggage and I certainly wouldn't want the media circus.
digglahhh
02-21-2008, 11:48 AM
Why would Bonds be ideal for the Yankees, as opposed to any other AL team?
The right field line, as was already mentioned.
The fact that the whole team and city is used to non-stop media coverage/distractions already.
The fact that they have more money than god.
They have tons of bats, and hence wouldn't waste a .500 OBP by constantly stranding him like SF did.
The problem is that they already have two guys making something like 35M combined who are going to be taking up a lot of DH ABs in Damon and Giambi.