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koke08
12-29-2007, 09:28 PM
I am new to this forum, i do not know where to post these thread, just want to get some info
I need info on a glove I bought at a flee market for $4. Here is the info I have collected so far
It is a JC Higgins Model R1652
It has Ned Harris name imprinted on the glove. Ned Harris played 5 seasons from 194-1946 for the Detroit Tigers. I suspect that the glove was made between those years.
The JC Higgins gloves were made between 1908-1961 when Sears Introduced the Ted Williams Edition.
Any info will help.
Thank you.
Jorge
glovemedic
12-30-2007, 06:15 PM
It is a JC Higgins Model R1652
It has Ned Harris name imprinted on the glove. Ned Harris played 5 seasons from 194-1946 for the Detroit Tigers...... I suspect that the glove was made between those years. ....Any info will help.
Sounds like a good buy. I found this one in a quick search that is going for $45 so it would seem that you did well.
http://www.geocities.com/vintagebrett/jchigginsrunnellsfront.jpg
I like vintage gear if it is still serviceable and you can play with it. My son and I bought some replica gloves from Akadema a while back. Let's just say it must of been a whole different ballgame running down a fly ball in the gap back in the 20's. I am sure a 90% FP in 1920 is equivalent to 150% FP in the modern era just because of the change in glove technology.
All of the talk about baseball as a game of numbers and the importance of continuity from one time period to the next is BS. Ball players 30 years ago did not have access to the IT that modern players do. Folks may want to make a big deal over steroids as the variable that made the difference in the game played during the 1990's but I believe that freeze frame video has a much to do with the character of pitching and hitting in the 90's as anything else. The game has been dynamic ever since it was played and the only thing similar about the game played now and the baseball played 100 years ago is the 90' basepaths and 60'6'' pitching distance.
Enjoy your glove and have fun playing the game!
wogdoggy
01-02-2008, 12:22 PM
Sounds like a good buy. I found this one in a quick search that is going for $45 so it would seem that you did well.
http://www.geocities.com/vintagebrett/jchigginsrunnellsfront.jpg
I like vintage gear if it is still serviceable and you can play with it. My son and I bought some replica gloves from Akadema a while back. Let's just say it must of been a whole different ballgame running down a fly ball in the gap back in the 20's. I am sure a 90% FP in 1920 is equivalent to 150% FP in the modern era just because of the change in glove technology.
All of the talk about baseball as a game of numbers and the importance of continuity from one time period to the next is BS. Ball players 30 years ago did not have access to the IT that modern players do. Folks may want to make a big deal over steroids as the variable that made the difference in the game played during the 1990's but I believe that freeze frame video has a much to do with the character of pitching and hitting in the 90's as anything else. The game has been dynamic ever since it was played and the only thing similar about the game played now and the baseball played 100 years ago is the 90' basepaths and 60'6'' pitching distance.
Enjoy your glove and have fun playing the game!
what amazes me medic is that these old gloves really dont have as much value as you think they would,,any reason the old glove mkt is so terrible..?
I have some old 4 finger gloves and catchers mitts that i couldnt even get as much as a new rawlings would cost? WHY?
glovemedic
01-02-2008, 07:20 PM
what amazes me medic is that these old gloves really dont have as much value as you think they would,,any reason the old glove mkt is so terrible..? I have some old 4 finger gloves and catchers mitts that i couldnt even get as much as a new rawlings would cost? WHY
Well the new Rawlings is for the most part a better glove and for most of us it is still about playing with the glove rather than displaying it on the shelf. Although there are some really serious glove collectors out there with awesome collections. There is one site I visit periodically with some fairly serviceable "vintage" gloves that have pretty substantial price tags. I am guessing these gloves only appeal to folks who can spend a big buck and not feel it. There is one reconditioned HOH glove I have been watching with a price tag of $325.00 . I think it is pretty steep for a ~ 20 year old glove, but I imagine it will catch someone's eye. Other than that, it is all about the condition of the glove, its make and model, and what someone is willing to pay for it at the time it is available. I have seen a lot of price fluctuation in the vintage market over the last couple of years and timing seems to be more important than anything else. I get the impression that many of the auction prices are driven by impulse buyers looking to recapture their childhood artifacts Mom threw away or put in the yard sale.
Perhaps some of the real collectors with more experience than I can weigh in on the discussion.
Have an awesome evening!
koke08
01-03-2008, 05:58 PM
Sounds like a good buy. I found this one in a quick search that is going for $45 so it would seem that you did well.
http://www.geocities.com/vintagebrett/jchigginsrunnellsfront.jpg
I like vintage gear if it is still serviceable and you can play with it. My son and I bought some replica gloves from Akadema a while back. Let's just say it must of been a whole different ballgame running down a fly ball in the gap back in the 20's. I am sure a 90% FP in 1920 is equivalent to 150% FP in the modern era just because of the change in glove technology.
All of the talk about baseball as a game of numbers and the importance of continuity from one time period to the next is BS. Ball players 30 years ago did not have access to the IT that modern players do. Folks may want to make a big deal over steroids as the variable that made the difference in the game played during the 1990's but I believe that freeze frame video has a much to do with the character of pitching and hitting in the 90's as anything else. The game has been dynamic ever since it was played and the only thing similar about the game played now and the baseball played 100 years ago is the 90' basepaths and 60'6'' pitching distance.
Enjoy your glove and have fun playing the game!
Regardless of the value of the glove, and even though it was a steal, I am still at awe when I see the glove. Just to have a part of history in my hands is as priceless as any memorabilia out on the market. Just to feel how a 60 year old glove felt like back then when catching a ball is just priceless. And to see the face of my father remembering his childhood watching his father play baseball with one of those gloves is just priceless
thank you guys for your input.