RIstars mechanics {balance}

[RIstar]

I have found out how to become more balanced down the mound. All I did was look at the target all the way through and it fixed my leaning backwards in my motion or throwing up hill.

Slow motion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRLY1lGfaMA


Normal Speed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPSk1oTi7Xg&feature=related


I'm starting to get better and more balanced.

Only need to make one adjustment I think to the glove side arm. I like to roll it over quick and that tilts my shoulders which gives me that nice high release point for my change-up and curve-ball.


What do you think? Am I coming along nicely?

[Chris O'Leary]

I have found out how to become more balanced down the mound. All I did was look at the target all the way through and it fixed my leaning backwards in my motion or throwing up hill.

Slow motion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRLY1lGfaMA

What do you think? Am I coming along nicely?

Sorry, but no.

You're breaking your hands late and your PAS elbow is still getting high (ala Chris Carpenter), which is giving you a major timing problem. Your shoulders start rotating well before your PAS forearm is vertical.

This will destroy your labrum if you keep doing this.

[jamesh23]

I cant say anything cuz I dont have enough experience but where your throwing it looks like a garage, what are you throwing off of? also how far is the target that your throwing at? it doesnt like like its 60'6" away.

[Drill]

I love you cooler with wheels on it,,,,, sell on ebay? garage sale?:D

just for the fun of it,

drill

[RIstar]

Chris I have a q's would working on a longer stride help my arm get up in time? I think with a longer stride it will give me that split second for me to get verticle or close to it at landing.

[dm59]

I think you've made some improvement. I'm concerned about how you're lifting with the elbows and the forearm pointed downward, a la the inverted W or M type of arm action. I suggest you lift into the horizontal W, rather than this M action. Remember when we chatted and I suggested you think of lifting the top of the forearm and the outside of the upper arm as a unit?

I'm not going to get into my usual debates with Chris about the elbow height because it will never get resolved. Suffice it to say I have no issue with your elbow height and he wants it lower. Confusing, eh? Oh well, my 2 cents worth.

I will, though, re-state my opinion that the "excessive" counter rotation of your shoulders may be causing you to land closed.

Again, I do see some improvement.

[RIstar]

Dm it's just my style of arm action, I have looked into what you say and pitchers like Tim Lincecum and also K-Rod lift it up like that then put it back to normal I do not have pain when I throw or after so I think I'm fine with that.

Also I do land closed DM and you are right the reverse rotation of the hips does that and I'm ok with it BECAUSE I pitch on a mound from the far left side of the mound so I land 1st base to middle of the pitching mound so it does not hurt me that much at all.

PS. The reverse rotation helps me go explosively {sp} down the mound better then lifting the leg any other way that I have tryed. Also it is great for my pitches that I throw Change-up and 12-6 or 1-7 curveball.

Also my elbow hieght is fine it's just I need to get the elbow up in time at landing like I use to. If I stride a little more I will get that.

Since I have fixed balanced problem I need to give my arm more time to get up.

I think I'm on my way to good mechanics just need to keep working on balance and momentum for that long stride to let me arm get up.

[Chris O'Leary]

I'm concerned about how you're lifting with the elbows and the forearm pointed downward, a la the inverted W or M type of arm action. I suggest you lift into the horizontal W, rather than this M action. Remember when we chatted and I suggested you think of lifting the top of the forearm and the outside of the upper arm as a unit?

I agree.



I will, though, re-state my opinion that the "excessive" counter rotation of your shoulders may be causing you to land closed.

I agree.

[Chris O'Leary]

Chris I have a q's would working on a longer stride help my arm get up in time? I think with a longer stride it will give me that split second for me to get verticle or close to it at landing.

Not as much as breaking your hands earlier would.

[dm59]

Dm it's just my style of arm action, I have looked into what you say and pitchers like Tim Lincecum and also K-Rod lift it up like that then put it back to normal I do not have pain when I throw or after so I think I'm fine with that.I have no evidence whatsoever for not liking the M arm action. I've always admitted that. So, it's your choice. I don't like it because I "think" there's a lot more "violence" in the external rotation to come. This very late lifting of the forearm results in a very fast motion, although it may be stated that this is exactly what you do want because of how the SSC works. The faster the stretch, the more forceful the rebound. I propose that the faster the stretch, the higher the risk of injury. All opinion, though.


Also I do land closed DM and you are right the reverse rotation of the hips does that and I'm ok with it BECAUSE I pitch on a mound from the far left side of the mound so I land 1st base to middle of the pitching mound so it does not hurt me that much at all.I'm not speaking at all about your position on the mound. My comment is with respect to your throwing motion relative to your body, not the mound or target. Landing closed is causing you to throw across your body, thus limiting the effectiveness of your torso rotation.

[Chris O'Leary]

I'm not speaking at all about your position on the mound. My comment is with respect to your throwing motion relative to your body, not the mound or target. Landing closed is causing you to throw across your body, thus limiting the effectiveness of your torso rotation.

I agree...

[RIstar]

DM i do the M but do not land with the M more like W but arm isn't all the way up yet but getting there.

I need to break my hands sooner or get more momentum to get my arm up more so I'm W at landing with arm verticle and ready to throw.

[dm59]

Oh dear. Why do I bother?

[XV84]

I'm not speaking at all about your position on the mound. My comment is with respect to your throwing motion relative to your body, not the mound or target. Landing closed is causing you to throw across your body, thus limiting the effectiveness of your torso rotation.

To re-affirm what dm59 is saying here, once the front foot lands the hips must have already been opened to some degree. RIstar, what I see you doing is landing, then rotating into the left hip and flexing your upper body forward to propel the arm forward. You should be rotating into footplant, not after footplant.

[RIstar]

I have never been taught how to rotate into foot plant. Can you explain the steps please?

[Chris O'Leary]

I have never been taught how to rotate into foot plant. Can you explain the steps please?

Stride sideways and open your foot (so it points at the target) just before foot plant.

[RIstar]

I think I do that most of the time if you look at the normal speed videos.

It's true sometimes I do land a little closed.

[Chris O'Leary]

I think I do that most of the time if you look at the normal speed videos.

It's true sometimes I do land a little closed.

What you do in this version is fine.

However, I have seen you stride closed before.

That could have been the result of balance issues.