View Full Version : Should linear hitters switch to Rotational?
RIstar
12-19-2007, 06:44 PM
I'm a linear hitter and hit my 1st Hr's this year since I got a lot stronger. Also I have never been really taught how to hit at all so I have taken up linear hitting from the start. The 1st time I heard about rotational hitting was through Chris O Leary.
Should I try to swing rotationally or keep the linear swing that I have. I have had alot of good hits with my linear swing, hit 2 hr's in a game last year which was crazy.
Ps I also hit left handed
Baseball gLove
12-19-2007, 06:53 PM
How do you know that you are linear? I know my son used to be linear because he had a linear coach that taught hands to the ball and a golf like stride.
Jake Patterson
12-19-2007, 06:56 PM
I'm a linear hitter and hit my 1st Hr's this year since I got a lot stronger. Also I have never been really taught how to hit at all so I have taken up linear hitting from the start. The 1st time I heard about rotational hitting was through Chris O Leary.
Should I try to swing rotationally or keep the linear swing that I have. I have had alot of good hits with my linear swing, hit 2 hr's in a game last year which was crazy.
Ps I also hit left handed
Because so many people have so many different understandings of the terms it is difficult to say. Using the basic understanding I would offer that you will not go beyond HS using what most recognize as linear methods.
Chris O'Leary
12-19-2007, 06:58 PM
Because so many people have so many different understandings of the terms it is difficult to say. Using the basic understanding I would offer that you will not go beyond HS using what most recognize as linear methods.
I agree.
Also, the fact that you are hitting home runs means that your swing may not be as linear as you think (b/c linear hitters typically don't hit home runs).
It is more likely a hybrid.
We would need to see a clip to tell for sure.
RIstar
12-19-2007, 07:01 PM
Well I don't throw the hands at the ball I just step a little and hit the ball trying to use my whole body into the ball.
RIstar
12-19-2007, 07:04 PM
How do you take a video of your swing? without hitting a ball can you still do it?
Go Cardinals
12-19-2007, 09:08 PM
Well I don't throw the hands at the ball I just step a little and hit the ball trying to use my whole body into the ball.
Do you pivot your back book?
Drill
12-19-2007, 09:22 PM
They should just combine the two swing theories so as not to get mixed up,
drill
Go Cardinals
12-19-2007, 10:09 PM
How do you take a video of your swing? without hitting a ball can you still do it?
Yep, I've done it here... not as good though, but it'll work!
RIstar
12-20-2007, 03:03 AM
I will get a video without a ball just a swing.
But i gtg to school so after school I will post it.
Drill
12-20-2007, 05:25 AM
I will get a video without a ball just a swing.
But i gtg to school so after school I will post it.
It would seem to me that getting a video of a baseball swing is more important than going to school
drill
PS - for those people who do not know when to take me seriously ----J/K'ing
Rotational will be necessary for any higher than college but it is possible to go play at college with a linear swing because I know people that do it. It took me about 3 years to get to the point I am at right now switching over. Remember this: in order to get your swing to rotational and do well will take time... its a hard and long journey but its well worth it.
Rotational will be necessary for any higher than college but it is possible to go play at college with a linear swing because I know people that do it. It took me about 3 years to get to the point I am at right now switching over. Remember this: in order to get your swing to rotational and do well will take time... its a hard and long journey but its well worth it.
Korp, just curious. What did you change about your swing to change it from linear to what you now call "rotational"? Do you rotate around a fixed front leg; a balanced, centered spine; or a reverse "c" squish the bug? Do you separate and rotate the hips first and then the upper body or do rotate the lower body/torso and arms at the same time? All of us toss the words rotational and linear around alot...how are you "rotating" now? jima
wogdoggy
12-21-2007, 06:09 PM
I will get a video without a ball just a swing.
But i gtg to school so after school I will post it.
gtg =get to go..ahhh kids today:bowdown:
wogdoggy
12-21-2007, 06:11 PM
How do you know that you are linear? I know my son used to be linear because he had a linear coach that taught hands to the ball and a golf like stride.
what does golf like stride mean and what does it relate to being linear? youd think golf like stride would mean lil to no stride ?
Korp, just curious. What did you change about your swing to change it from linear to what you now call "rotational"? Do you rotate around a fixed front leg; a balanced, centered spine; or a reverse "c" squish the bug? Do you separate and rotate the hips first and then the upper body or do rotate the lower body/torso and arms at the same time? All of us toss the words rotational and linear around alot...how are you "rotating" now? jima
Basically a linear swings objective is more of a straight bat path to the ball with more weight going forward. For my rotation I have the hips open up first! next it brings the legs and upperbody with it (the picture of Bonds shows what the hips should be at contact). The problem with everything rotating at the same time is you do not have the rotational power or a rubber-band type action (hips taking everything with it after). Sometimes you get into the habit of everything going at once and I get numerous ground balls with that ---- aka linear swing. I had everything going at once when I was in high school and hit 1-2 homeruns my whole career then went to rotational and hit 4 homeruns in a year with lots more power.
http://cdn.channel.aol.com/channels/0f/06/435474b3-0028f-002f0-400cb8e1
http://s95294420.onlinehome.us/userfiles/Bonds_insideSmall.jpg
This is how I aim to position my hands and arms. For lower pitches my elbow is up more to produce the back spin and the swing levels out more for higher pitches as well as my elbow. In Ted Williams book on hitting he has a diagram of how a pitcher is throwing on a downhill slope and a batter at the plate. He shows how you should in a sense take the ball right back through the same plan which helps keep the bat in the zone the longest and having the greatest chance of hitting the ball. He also shows a diagram of a linear hitter who goes straight to the ball. In this example it basically cuts through the baseball plane like this --\-- where the dashes are the bat and the slash is the ball plane (obviously not that sharp though). The diagram shows doing a linear swing you have the least amount of chance to have any contact.
Jake Patterson
12-21-2007, 06:52 PM
what does golf like stride mean and what does it relate to being linear? youd think golf like stride would mean lil to no stride ?
I'm an avid golfer... I don't stride, although I do play with a guy who does.
Most golfers don't stride.
Basically a linear swings objective is more of a straight bat path to the ball with more weight going forward. For my rotation I have the hips open up first! next it brings the legs and upperbody with it (the picture of Bonds shows what the hips should be at contact). The problem with everything rotating at the same time is you do not have the rotational power or a rubber-band type action (hips taking everything with it after). Sometimes you get into the habit of everything going at once and I get numerous ground balls with that ---- aka linear swing. I had everything going at once when I was in high school and hit 1-2 homeruns my whole career then went to rotational and hit 4 homeruns in a year with lots more power.
http://cdn.channel.aol.com/channels/0f/06/435474b3-0028f-002f0-400cb8e1
http://s95294420.onlinehome.us/userfiles/Bonds_insideSmall.jpg
This is how I aim to position my hands and arms. For lower pitches my elbow is up more to produce the back spin and the swing levels out more for higher pitches as well as my elbow. In Ted Williams book on hitting he has a diagram of how a pitcher is throwing on a downhill slope and a batter at the plate. He shows how you should in a sense take the ball right back through the same plan which helps keep the bat in the zone the longest and having the greatest chance of hitting the ball. He also shows a diagram of a linear hitter who goes straight to the ball. In this example it basically cuts through the baseball plane like this --\-- where the dashes are the bat and the slash is the ball plane (obviously not that sharp though). The diagram shows doing a linear swing you have the least amount of chance to have any contact.
Thanks. For you then, you find you have the best results if you keep your hands back and rotate your hips...once your hips rotate, everthing else catches up...kind of a separation/contraction/rotation swing. I know that my description is simplistic, but is that about right?
yeah like a rubberband .. gets tight due to the seperation and then fires and contracts.