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RIstar
12-16-2007, 10:04 PM
I have a couple videos here of Dry throwing off of the step I have and I see some major improvement of Hip/Shoulder separation.
My Core is NOT strong enough and I can not hold the split second stretch in the core to long. I need to gain some more strength so that I can hold back the arm and get greater hip/shoulder separation.
Full Speed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE_YBUS9slk
Color Slow motion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPStZa9jYZY
I have been told to get my elbow a little more higher due to the fact it looks like I push the ball. I would like to know how I should go about getting the elbow shoulder height or like 1 cm under it please?
Also if anyone can tell me how much degrees of hip/shoulder separation I get that would be nice.
Drill
12-16-2007, 10:35 PM
Is there a reason that you like to keep your throwing hand low or is it because you don't want to hit the garage door.
drill
ps - nice cooler with wheels on it
RIstar
12-16-2007, 11:35 PM
I just do it that way lol.
I think my problems are not stabilizing the glove and glove shoulder at landing so then my arm lags behind more. So I don't have any tension on the left side which takes the power away.
I love that cooler lol WITH WHEELS
Lady_Knights
12-17-2007, 12:01 AM
Why do you start your windup the way you do? Why don't you start from the stretch or with both feet on the rubber, in a normal windup?
Why do you start your windup the way you do? Why don't you start from the stretch or with both feet on the rubber, in a normal windup?
There's nothing wrong with the way he starts. A lot of pitchers start at an angle instead of facing straight at home plate. Some like to get a head start into leg lift and it feels comfortable to them. Some are just wasting motion with a windup anyway because they get to a "balance point" instead of keeping the hips moving towards the plate. So, I wouldn't necessarily focus on what he is doing before leg lift. As long as what he does after peak leg lift is the same from the stretch as the windup.
RedHawks Baseball
12-17-2007, 05:58 AM
You have no external rotation of the shoulder at all. You are pushing the ball.
CoachW
12-17-2007, 08:38 AM
This would mean you might have to clean your garage:)
Things I see:
If you look at the slow mo around 37 seconds I stopped it. I don't like your position there. It look to me as if you are too closed. Instead of just coming sideways your body is going too much closed and therfore your eyes aren't on the target and your thowing arm is too far behind your body. It is like you are pulling around with the body instead of just going sideways to the target.
I would also like to see your lead arm more out in front of you while to start to the plate.
Your finish to me looks off too. It does look like you are "pushing" the ball. You should have more of a 90 degree angle with your thowing eblow when you plant the front leg. When your front foot lands your arm is still way behind.
Coach W
Chris O'Leary
12-17-2007, 09:24 AM
I have a couple videos here of Dry throwing off of the step I have and I see some major improvement of Hip/Shoulder separation.
My Core is NOT strong enough and I can not hold the split second stretch in the core to long. I need to gain some more strength so that I can hold back the arm and get greater hip/shoulder separation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPStZa9jYZY
In the slow motion video, you can see that you have developed a major timing problem. Your shoulders start turning when your PAS forearm is horizontal (rather than vertical). See around 36 seconds.
This may be what people mean when they say you are pushing the ball.
You need to fix this or you will destroy your arm.
Your hip/shoulder separation isn't terrible. It's maybe 45 degrees. See around 40 second.
I have been told to get my elbow a little more higher due to the fact it looks like I push the ball. I would like to know how I should go about getting the elbow shoulder height or like 1 cm under it please?
While your PAS elbow may be a little low, I have seen far more problems with elbows that are too high than with elbows that are too low.
Here are a couple of great pitchers with low PAS elbows.
Greg Maddux...
http://www.chrisoleary.com/projects/Baseball/Pitching/Videos/Video_Pitching_GregMaddux_3B_ArmAction_001.gif
Randy Johnson...
http://www.chrisoleary.com/projects/Baseball/Pitching/Videos/Video_Pitching_RandyJohnson_Catcher_SuperSlowMotio n_002.gif
Chris O'Leary
12-17-2007, 09:25 AM
You have no external rotation of the shoulder at all. You are pushing the ball.
He doesn't have any ER because he's dry throwing.