Yankee Stadium Pre-Renovation

[SultanOfWhat]

Where's the frieze ?

That design is from at least early 1921, to judge from the caption in one of my posts above. The frieze may have been conceived later than that.

[NYFan1stYankFan2nd]

Can we try and keep this conversation to just the pre-renovation YS? :pray:

Thanks Sparks - the anti-French thing is gettin' OLD... :faint:

[Anubis2051]

That design is from at least early 1921, to judge from the caption in one of my posts above. The frieze may have been conceived later than that.

I wonder, did the frieze have a structural signifigance like in NYS, or was it simply ornamentation. I would guess the later seeing as it was removed, but the extra rows in the UD may have compensated for that.

[Aviator_Frank]

I wonder, did the frieze have a structural signifigance . . .

Doubtful. But without it I can assure you the columns holding up the roof would most-likely have been of lesser size.

[jimmyjimjimz]

In this original configuration of the stadium the bullpen is behind that, between the bleachers and the grandstand. After 1936 yes, that would be the bullpen.

Also, now that I'm looking at it, the 1928 picture can't be from the World Series because there is no bunting anywhere. While it could definitely be from 1928 (or any year from 28-36), the description on lelands must be wrong.

Wow, that IS weird.

[Mygirljess]

The building behind the flag pole in this picture used to say "Buy DiNotos's Rolls" across the top.

[spiderico]

I shot some interior ramp photos during the last homestand at Yankee Stadium 2008.
I found this pic for comparison.

Great match. Can you post that one in color. Since we're comparing old to new, I think the color shot next to the b/w one will help drive home the fact that they are teaing down the one and only YS. Not something "torn down and rebuilt in the 70s". Thanks.

[RichardLillard1]

The building behind the flag pole in this picture used to say "Buy DiNotos's Rolls" across the top.

Notice how bright each of the plaques is in the picture. I'm wondering if something was done to them at some point to make just the wording and player image stand out more. Or if it was copper with brass accents or something, which would explain the browning (if treated that way) today.


Richard

[Gary Dunaier]

The building behind the flag pole in this picture used to say "Buy DiNotos's Rolls" across the top.

Actually, that would be the building to the left, the one with the "Washington Heights" sign in that photo. It's 845 Gerard Avenue, and I remember that "Buy DiNoto's" ad as well. I first noticed that ad in the 1980s, but I think it had been there since the 1970s.

The building behind the flagpole in the photo is, of course, 831 Gerard Avenue, the last of the apartment buildings to go up on Gerard.

[Mygirljess]

Actually, that would be the building to the left, the one with the "Washington Heights" sign in that photo. It's 845 Gerard Avenue, and I remember that "Buy DiNoto's" ad as well. I first noticed that ad in the 1980s, but I think it had been there since the 1970s.

The building behind the flagpole in the photo is, of course, 831 Gerard Avenue, the last of the apartment buildings to go up on Gerard.

Thanks. Yeah, I think the DiNoto's sign was on that building even before the renovation. Can't remember clearly enough to say for sure, though.

[brooklyndodger14]

Actually, that would be the building to the left, the one with the "Washington Heights" sign in that photo. It's 845 Gerard Avenue, and I remember that "Buy DiNoto's" ad as well. I first noticed that ad in the 1980s, but I think it had been there since the 1970s.

The building behind the flagpole in the photo is, of course, 831 Gerard Avenue, the last of the apartment buildings to go up on Gerard.

The DeNoto sign, with its green-white-red Italiam flag motif, proclaimed something about free tickets to Yankee games... That was the ad visible thru the 1973 season and I believe still remains today.

During the mid-60's, the Washington Heights Bank ad featured a white background with a blue silhouette of George Washington.

http://www.baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=24865&stc=1&d=1181021164

That is the ad seen in this photo taken by my dad on August 28, 1966.

Dennis
BrooklynDodger14

[Mygirljess]

The DeNoto sign, with its green-white-red Italiam flag motif, proclaimed something about free tickets to Yankee games... That was the ad visible thru the 1973 season and I believe still remains today.

That is the ad seen in this photo taken by my dad on August 28, 1966.

Dennis
BrooklynDodger14

Thanks, so it was up there before the renovation. 1966 was a little before my time in baseball.

[Gary Dunaier]

The DeNoto sign, with its green-white-red Italiam flag motif, proclaimed something about free tickets to Yankee games... That was the ad visible thru the 1973 season and I believe still remains today.

The DiNoto's ad did promise free tickets to Yankee games. However, the ad was painted over a few years ago. Here's a picture of 845 Gerard taken after the final day game at Yankee Stadium...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3187/2876307500_3dbb8a904e_b.jpg
(Photo taken September 20, 2008. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/2876307500/in/set-72157607401545368).)

Peter Richmond writes about the DiNoto's sign. In part...

Stand on the south end of the downtown side of the elevated platform now, and you can see white paint covering the top two stories on the back of 845 Gerard Avenue, a six-story, yellow-brick apartment building. For decades, beneath that paint, the back upper brick walls of 845 Gerard displayed a brightly painted legend: “Buy DiNoto’s Bread,” in yellow lettering atop of a field of red, green and white. The DiNoto’s sign didn’t glow or blink. I can’t imagine it sold the DiNotos much bread. I certainly don’t remember seeing any bakeries in the warren of bars and souvenir shops under the tracks.

But it wasn’t a commercial sign to me. It was a beacon of greeting that signified the compact between our odd band of faithful and the house where we’d assembled and the strange, exotic borough we’d assembled in. As I sat alone, up in that sunny or night-tinged stratosphere, a teenager in refuge from places where I’d never belonged — the Upper East Side, boarding schools – the panoramic view of the Bronx hypnotized me. And as the team struggled far beneath me, as Horace Clarke botched another grounder and Dooley Womack surrendered another long home run, the DiNoto’s sign spoke of — promised — a Shangri-la somewhere out beyond the park: a true neighborhood, where people did belong, had roots. Led real lives. Had real families.

http://www.peterrichmond.com/a-stadium-memory-2/

[YankeeStadium1923]

Great match. Can you post that one in color. Since we're comparing old to new, I think the color shot next to the b/w one will help drive home the fact that they are teaing down the one and only YS. Not something "torn down and rebuilt in the 70s". Thanks.

Heres the photo you requested.....I love how the light shines in through the old arched windows. It's amazing how such small cosmetic changes
(all arched vents in RYS) could change the overall atmosphere of the Yankee Stadium corridors. Maybe if the Bronx wasn't in such disarray in the early
1970's the windows would have been restored and retained in RYS.

Note: Color photo was shot during night game at Yankee Stadium.

[voodoochile]

I pulled out a couple of photos that I have that you may have seen before, but they are a couple of my favorites. There's something about the first
generation of the stadium, especially when it was brand new and not yet broken in that's appealing.
It may be the fact that it's still clean and fresh, ready to begin a dynasty, waitin' for the Babe to get it all started.
These black & white and sepia toned photos do absolutely nothing for it.
It's a virgin stadium with new freshly painted sea foam green seats.
The frieze may even be copper-colored. The outer walls, I think, are biege with brown vents.
Imagine what it looked like sitting there by itself, John McGraw across the river cursing it. There must be a color photo of it somewhere.

[voodoochile]

One more thing about those photos. YankeePhotos.com owns the copyright to them, so if you copy them be careful what you do with them.

[jimmyjimjimz]

I pulled out a couple of photos that I have that you may have seen before, but they are a couple of my favorites. There's something about the first
generation of the stadium, especially when it was brand new and not yet broken in that's appealing.
It may be the fact that it's still clean and fresh, ready to begin a dynasty, waitin' for the Babe to get it all started.
These black & white and sepia toned photos do absolutely nothing for it.
It's a virgin stadium with new freshly painted sea foam green seats.
The frieze may even be copper-colored. The outer walls, I think, are biege with brown vents.
Imagine what it looked like sitting there by itself, John McGraw across the river cursing it. There must be a color photo of it somewhere.

ok that last pic...........

is that during the construction or the renovation? Cause it looks like it says 1974 on the bottom right of the pic, but it also looks like it says 1923.

[six4three]

It doesn't say "1974", it says "Jany 2, 1923 - 18794".

Must be their catalog number for the photo.

[voodoochile]

That's exactly what it says. I also have a photo that I may have seen posted before, which is why I didn't include it here, when construction had just gotten underway. The structure has about 2 or 3 sections assembled, there's a small dump truck full of dirt coming in, and right in the middle of the photo is a wagon of lumber being pulled by two horses. That blew my mind when I saw that. It was the last thing I expected to see because it never occured to me that horses were still being used to haul material, especially in New York. What the hell, give me a few minutes and I'll post it.

[voodoochile]

OK, so the dump truck and the structure aren't there,
(they are in another photo) but the horses are right
where I said they were.
They should be credited along with the builder in the
documentation, ie., BUILDER: White Construction
Company & two horses.

[jimmyjimjimz]

It doesn't say "1974", it says "Jany 2, 1923 - 18794".

Must be their catalog number for the photo.

Oh, ok. I thought I saw 1974. My bad.

[SultanOfWhat]

Here are two DiNoto's bread pics:

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Q_Zerpnj63I/SiAhCE4HutI/AAAAAAAAGuE/w5g3QLFH4q0/s800/August%209th%2C%201972%202%20di%20noto%27s.jpg

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Q_Zerpnj63I/SiAiEFdg-MI/AAAAAAAAGuM/3955GVfWSx8/s800/Yankee%20Outfield%20-%20Early%2070%27s.jpg

[Lpeters199]

[QUOTE=voodoochile;1530617]I pulled out a couple of photos that I have that you may have seen before, but they are a couple of my favorites.

Interesting to see that the original backstop screen ran up to the 3rd deck. Does anyone know when it was redone to run only up to the 2nd deck?

[mackenzie]

Notice how bright each of the plaques is in the picture. I'm wondering if something was done to them at some point to make just the wording and player image stand out more. Or if it was copper with brass accents or something, which would explain the browning (if treated that way) today.


Richard

Yes, the monument and other plaques sure do jump right out of this picture, Richard.

As I was staring at the photo, I quickly figured that it was taken between 1959 and 1962 because Bill Skowron was listed in the line up on the then new scoreboard. Then as I copied and saved the picture, the default file name IDed the photo as being shot on 9/30/1961. I'll have to try that with other pictures where I'm not sure of the date. Might pick off a few that way.

I did confirm the date as 9/30/1961. Yanks won 3-1 with Ralph Terry on the mound. Maris played CF as Mantle had received that bad injection by then, which cut short his season and stopped him at 54 HRs. And we know what happened on the very next day, 10/1/1961. Tracy Stallard on the mound, no score, bottom of the 4th, 2 balls and no strikes on Roger Maris...

Wasn't until I checked this box score that I realized that Rog was playing CF on the day he made history. Fun to find these little tidbits.

Anyway (!), back to the photo, Richard. As 9/30 was pretty late in the year, the sun during that afternoon game would have been fairly low in the sky and more to the south or RF side of the stadium. Yogi, who's in left waiting on the pitch might have commented that, "It got late early out there that day." So it's very likely that the sunrays were being reflected big time off the smooth plaque surfaces and right into that picture taker’s camera.

I made a similar guess a few months ago in one of these threads when we were arguing about why the leftfield upper deck pillars and such looked so white in an old b&w photo. I had maintained that they actually weren't white but were being lit up by reflected sunlight.

Regards,
Mark

PS - The banner must be the 1960 AL Flag.

[Pelt]

I pulled out a couple of photos that I have that you may have seen before, but they are a couple of my favorites. There's something about the first
generation of the stadium, especially when it was brand new and not yet broken in that's appealing.
It may be the fact that it's still clean and fresh, ready to begin a dynasty, waitin' for the Babe to get it all started.
These black & white and sepia toned photos do absolutely nothing for it.
It's a virgin stadium with new freshly painted sea foam green seats.
The frieze may even be copper-colored. The outer walls, I think, are biege with brown vents.
Imagine what it looked like sitting there by itself, John McGraw across the river cursing it. There must be a color photo of it somewhere.

Nice little shot of the Polo Grounds in the distance in that second pic.

[Lpeters199]

The July 4, 1961 doubleheader between the Yankees and Tigers drew a massive crowd to Yankee Stadium. This photocopy is poor quality, but still a nice action shot of Chico Fernandez stealing home in the 9th inning of the opener to put Detroit ahead, 3-2 in front of 74,246 fans--with another 6,000 turned away.

[Gylmar]

Here are two DiNoto's bread pics:

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Q_Zerpnj63I/SiAhCE4HutI/AAAAAAAAGuE/w5g3QLFH4q0/s800/August%209th%2C%201972%202%20di%20noto%27s.jpg

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Q_Zerpnj63I/SiAiEFdg-MI/AAAAAAAAGuM/3955GVfWSx8/s800/Yankee%20Outfield%20-%20Early%2070%27s.jpg

In the above photo both team names DET NEW YORK TIGERS YANKEES are in white lettering, however in the photo from September 30, 1961 BOSTON RED SOX are in white lettering with NEW YORK YANKEES in red.

Is there any significance to the red lettering in the 1961 photo, or did they just like using red lettering then? And then in later years used all white letters.

[brooklyndodger14]

In the above photo both team names DET NEW YORK TIGERS YANKEES are in white lettering, however in the photo from September 30, 1961 BOSTON RED SOX are in white lettering with NEW YORK YANKEES in red.

Is there any significance to the red lettering in the 1961 photo, or did they just like using red lettering then? And then in later years used all white letters.

All the scoreboards would rotate the team names depending on who was at bat. In my dad's picture of Mantle's at bat in Post #2511 you can see the Yanks in red. I don't know if Red=At Bat was consistant throughout the seasons, but I know that by the early 70's, all team names were in white.

If you can remember the WPIX telecasts, they always focused on the RF auxilliary scoreboard at the end of each half inning showing the progressive linescore, it was far more informative than the current TV practice of showing just an on-screen super of R-H-E totals only.

Dennis
BrooklynDodger14

[NYFan1stYankFan2nd]

Heres the photo you requested.....I love how the light shines in through the old arched windows. It's amazing how such small cosmetic changes
(all arched vents in RYS) could change the overall atmosphere of the Yankee Stadium corridors. Maybe if the Bronx wasn't in such disarray in the early
1970's the windows would have been restored and retained in RYS.

Note: Color photo was shot during night game at Yankee Stadium.

I think shuttering the Bronx out is what helped keep the BRONX the way IT was, not the other way round.

Creating a fortress out of a ballpark does not encourage the neighborhoods around it.

[Gylmar]

All the scoreboards would rotate the team names depending on who was at bat. In my dad's picture of Mantle's at bat in Post #2511 you can see the Yanks in red. I don't know if Red=At Bat was consistant throughout the seasons, but I know that by the early 70's, all team names were in white.

If you can remember the WPIX telecasts, they always focused on the RF auxilliary scoreboard at the end of each half inning showing the progressive linescore, it was far more informative than the current TV practice of showing just an on-screen super of R-H-E totals only.

Dennis
BrooklynDodger14

Thank you Dennis for the wonderful information. :bowdown:

Yes, I do remember the WPIX telecasts using the RF auxilliary scoreboard going into commercial breaks during our visits to N.Y. I saw most of my baseball during this era on Detroit Tiger telecasts.

We didn't have a color TV until Nov. '68, so that may be why I don't specifically remember the rotating red/white team names.

However, I can tell the red/white difference in your Dad's Mantle photo. :happy:

I guess the Yanks must have decided by the early '70's that people could tell who was at bat by looking on the field, without assistance from the scoreboards.

[mackenzie]

If you can remember the WPIX telecasts, they always focused on the RF auxilliary scoreboard at the end of each half inning showing the progressive linescore, it was far more informative than the current TV practice of showing just an on-screen super of R-H-E totals only.

Dennis
BrooklynDodger14

I do remember this well. I recall WPIX showing the main scoreboard at the end of each half-inning only once or twice during the games that I saw. I also liked seeing the line score. It bugged me for a number of years afterward when the telecasts went with the R-H-E graphics starting about the mid-1970s, I guess. Don't think that I had ever expressed this pet peave before! Takes BBF to bring out these things, I guess.

Regards,
Mark

[Yankees73]

Assuming that most of us OYS guys on this site are in our mid to late 40's Its nice to see that the litle things are mentioned about our experiences. Like the Dinoto's bread sign and the line score after each half inning. Remember the ConEd kids with Earl Batty in the left field bleachers? I remember the commercial. Also, How many of us remember the ride on the Grand Concourse going southbund and making mental notes of the landmarks? Dime Savings bank, The Medical Arts building...And I'm sure all of our hearts jumped when we saw the Courthouse on the Horizon knowing we were just about to be in baseball paradise.

[stadiumbuilder]

We came from the other direction. Our moment would come when we'd stop at 155th (usually to drop off or pick up no one) and then under the river, getting butterflies knowing there were no more stops except the one that counted. And then coming up the steps and seeing those majestic white walls with the louvers and arches and deciding which gate to go in that day.

[SultanOfWhat]

First photo shows actual box seats near the field (July 26,1942):

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Q_Zerpnj63I/SiG77sRpt3I/AAAAAAAAGwg/G0olJi6teGs/s800/July%2026%2C%201942-1.jpg

They were gone by 1946 (12 May):

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_Q_Zerpnj63I/SiG78Fi1hHI/AAAAAAAAGwk/m5gDk8GvIp8/s800/12May1946-1.jpg

[Anubis2051]

Higher res version of a previous picture:
http://66.230.220.70/images/post/ny/113.jpg

[RichardLillard1]

First photo shows actual box seats near the field (July 26,1942):

They were gone by 1946 (12 May):

Over the winter of 1945-46, some slight renovations were done to the Stadium. If you notice, the concrete wall from 1923 is also gone, replaced by the fencing material that remained there until 1973.

Somewhere on this thread are pictures of the renovation.


Richard

[mackenzie]

We came from the other direction. Our moment would come when we'd stop at 155th (usually to drop off or pick up no one) and then under the river, getting butterflies knowing there were no more stops except the one that counted. And then coming up the steps and seeing those majestic white walls with the louvers and arches and deciding which gate to go in that day.

Ah, maybe you took the D from 33rd & 6th or switched to it from the A if you started at Penn? Most times over the 40+ years that I've been going to Yankee games, I take the #4/Lex. Express. The moment of anticipation there, of course, is after the 149th St. stop. The train continues to run underground and always seems to take so long before it makes that left turn, then curves to the right as it finally emerges from the ground, the great Yankee Stadium coming into view on the left side. Even after all these years and games, I haven't gotten tired of this.

Regards,
Mark

[Anubis2051]

Ah, maybe you took the D from 33rd & 6th or switched to it from the A if you started at Penn? Most times over the 40+ years that I've been going to Yankee games, I take the #4/Lex. Express. The moment of anticipation there, of course, is after the 149th St. stop. The train continues to run underground and always seems to take so long before it makes that left turn, then curves to the right as it finally emerges from the ground, the great Yankee Stadium coming into view on the left side. Even after all these years and games, I haven't gotten tired of this.

Regards,
Mark

Mark, even though I've only been going to games for probably a fraction of the time as you, I agree completely. Nothing beats that rush when you first see the light and the old girl is right there. Even today with the new ballpark, that first glimpse, and even more so the gap, give me goosebumps every single time.

[stadiumbuilder]

Ah, maybe you took the D from 33rd & 6th or switched to it from the A if you started at Penn? Most times over the 40+ years that I've been going to Yankee games, I take the #4/Lex. Express. The moment of anticipation there, of course, is after the 149th St. stop. The train continues to run underground and always seems to take so long before it makes that left turn, then curves to the right as it finally emerges from the ground, the great Yankee Stadium coming into view on the left side. Even after all these years and games, I haven't gotten tired of this.

Regards,
MarkThe 8th ave line, A train to Columbus Circle @59th, D train the rest of the way. Always and still are too many stops, it's a pretty slow ride. The #2 to the #4 is quicker. That combo switches much farther up, something like 149th.

[stadiumbuilder]

By the way, does anybody have or know of a photo, post 1946, of the left field seats in fair territory when they're mostly empty? I need better detail, there's a couple of near misses on this thread and my personal photos come close, but I need to know exactly how the seats were configured. Left field never seemed to be used for any posed photograghy like team pictures or baseball cards. The seating charts on p.64 here don't show individual seats, just rows. Thanks for all the help from you guys with other tough spots in the past and hopefully now this one too!

[DGDGBD]

Lighter version of that 1928 WS pic:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_Q_Zerpnj63I/Sh4PRxTRkXI/AAAAAAAAGlE/dX0dzDaY2ss/s800/1928%20World%20Series.JPG



Not sure if anyone has mentioned this already, but the foul poles in the early days weren't very tall.

[SultanOfWhat]

In those days, a ball was either fair or foul based upon where it landed, not where it passed out of the playing field, so shorter foul poles could do the job.

Found this on the Babe Ruth thread (posted by SHOELESSJOE3):

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Q_Zerpnj63I/SiLHOKa9F0I/AAAAAAAAGxg/vKKwwbCWT44/s800/Home%20run%20rule%20change%201931.JPG

[locke40]

Over the winter of 1945-46, some slight renovations were done to the Stadium. If you notice, the concrete wall from 1923 is also gone, replaced by the fencing material that remained there until 1973.

Somewhere on this thread are pictures of the renovation.


Richard

Here's one I have from the 1946 renovations.

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[SultanOfWhat]

Here is an interesting pic. Looks like the 1937 RF grandstand extension is still going on:

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Q_Zerpnj63I/SiMsOn380xI/AAAAAAAAGyw/QZBpR5jmBE8/s800/40372900.jpg

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_Q_Zerpnj63I/SiMtMYGKbPI/AAAAAAAAGy0/TjbFbpynT-c/s800/StadiumBullpen%20copy.jpg

This pic brings back a fond memory. My Dad knew Sparky Lyle (he would come into my Dad's restaurants), so my Dad got us into the room through that doorway on the left to meet Sparky during a game in 1972. We peeked out into the bullpen and saw Lindy McDaniel warming up. He was probably throwing about 84 MPH, but I never saw anything so fast close up. Sparky looked about 8 feet tall in his pinstripes ( I was eight). There were chewing tobacco wads spat all over the concrete floor. We got autographed pictures from Sparky, and a Yankee ( I think it was Blomberg) hit a HR into the bullpen while we were there, and I got the ball.

Sad to see the old place go. I saw about ten games in the old Stadium, and well over a hundred in the renovated Stadium, but I'll be thinking of the old place when they knock the building down.

[The Monument]

Very cool pic, Sultan. Somewhere on this site there is a shot with a couple of players, maybe DiMag and someone else, and you can see the RF stands in the background still being built. I had always thought that it was done completely in the off-season.

[SultanOfWhat]

Somebody posted this pic recently, which also shows the 1937 RF grandstand renovations and a populated Stadium:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_Q_Zerpnj63I/Sh73CxVlgYI/AAAAAAAAGpE/8PHgLzMrtn8/s800/Yankee%20Stadium%201937.jpg

I'm still trying to find out the exact months of the 1928 and 1937 renovations.

1946 renovations a bit brighter and sharper:

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Q_Zerpnj63I/SiMy27u7pxI/AAAAAAAAGy4/jeUaK9DbhZk/s800/Old%20Yankee%20Stadium%2017.jpg

Here (via Lelands Auctions) is a nice close-up of some of the hardware the Yankees won in the old Stadium:

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Q_Zerpnj63I/SiM3NGRMBLI/AAAAAAAAGzA/vMG04oYPoSM/s800/1952%20New%20York%20Yankees%20World%20Series%20Rin g.jpg
1952 WS champs ring

BTW, can anyone identify to which ballpark this terra cotta detail belonged?

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Q_Zerpnj63I/SiM3zRfTL9I/AAAAAAAAGzE/2kI0Yd-fQuQ/s800/terracotta.jpg

A few more pics:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Q_Zerpnj63I/SiM4fLE9ifI/AAAAAAAAGzM/ZHTGO6s-yHg/s800/May%2011%2C%201941%20gca%20sp.jpg
11 May 1941, Bronx, New York, New York, USA --- Baseball Hall of Famer Grover Cleveland Alexander stands on the pitcher's mound at Yankee Stadium and watches pitcher Satchel Paige at work. Paige is a member of the New York Black Yankees.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_Q_Zerpnj63I/SiM4fS3iPtI/AAAAAAAAGzQ/MZh3q5dSVM4/s800/October%205%2C%201953%20gm%206%20before%20clincher .jpg
05 Oct 1953, New York, New York, USA --- Expressive beyond the need for wordy explanation is this picture made at Yankee Stadium today as the New York Yankees and the Brooklyn Dodgers made ready to do battle in the sixth game of the 1953 world series. On top is joyful Manager Casey Stengel of the Yankees seeking the victory which would make them the world baseball champions a record fifth straight.[Yanks did indeed close out the WS that day. I never noticed those hooks and numbers before in the dugout).

Check out the fans on the buildings in this pic from 9-9-28. From a double header vs Philadelphia that Bill Jenkinson writes about on p. 83-4. Attendance that day (Sunday) was 85,265, and a Tuesday game later in the series drew 51,000 (a huge crowd for a mid-week game back then). On 9-11-28, Ruth hit a 450-foot HR to the 40th bleacher row off Lefty Grove in a 5-3 win that put the Yankees in the driver's seat in the pennant battle.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Q_Zerpnj63I/SiM5c1peLnI/AAAAAAAAGzU/j7zG7pUeyLw/s800/9-9-28.jpg

My Dad tells stories about being at this game:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_Q_Zerpnj63I/SiM9w-BAbbI/AAAAAAAAGzY/iJ9d_FgXbYQ/s800/October%202%2C%201963%201st%20inn%20gm%201%20l%205-2%2C%2015%20k%27s.jpg
02 Oct 1963, New York, New York, USA --- Los Angeles Dodgers star pitcher Sandy Koufax shows his winning form in the first inning of the World Series opener, won by the Dodgers over the New York Yankees 5-2. Koufax struck out the side in the first inning and the first two men in the second, to tie the record for strikeouts at the start of a Series game that the St. Louis Cardinals' Mort Cooper set in 1943. Sandy struck out 15 in the game, to break the old Series record of 14. His ex-teammate Carl Erskine set that one, 10 years before to the day.

Yogi gets plunked, 1955 WS:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Q_Zerpnj63I/ShCwdPQMmpI/AAAAAAAAGHQ/1Wd61yaeYN4/s800/Baseball%20action%20in%20the%201955%20World%20Seri es.jpg

Clete Boyer safe at 2nd, 1961 WS:

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Q_Zerpnj63I/ShCwkXeSVuI/AAAAAAAAGIU/dX3SIIjsMC8/s800/Clete%20Boyer%20of%20the%20New%20York%20Yankees%20 slides%20safely%20into%20second%2061%20ws.jpg

[David Atkatz]

BTW, can anyone identify to which ballpark this terra cotta detail belonged?

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Q_Zerpnj63I/SiM3zRfTL9I/AAAAAAAAGzE/2kI0Yd-fQuQ/s800/terracotta.jpg

Why, Yankee Stadium, of course. It came from one of the decorative "balconies" on either Gate 4 or Gate 6. The ones on Gate 2 are still there:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j245/datkatz/Gate2detail.jpg

[voodoochile]

Tell me, how do you get bird **** on the bottom? Do Bronx pigeon's strafe?

[voodoochile]

John, you wanted a post 1946 photo, and I assume that you also prefer pre 1974. I looked at everything that I had, but no luck finding what you need. However, copies of some blueprints that I have from 1923 show that both grandstands mirror each other, and I believe that didn't change through the years, but I'll keep looking.

[YankeeStadium1923]

By the way, does anybody have or know of a photo, post 1946, of the left field seats in fair territory when they're mostly empty? I need better detail, there's a couple of near misses on this thread and my personal photos come close, but I need to know exactly how the seats were configured. Left field never seemed to be used for any posed photograghy like team pictures or baseball cards. The seating charts on p.64 here don't show individual seats, just rows. Thanks for all the help from you guys with other tough spots in the past and hopefully now this one too!

I didn't see a a photo in post 1946, however I do have this photo of the leftfield seats from an old Yankee Encyclopedia.

[stadiumbuilder]

Thank You! That photo does help some, doesn't reveal everything I need, but it does have a couple more clues. It is definately '46 or after because the curved back seats are in (not to mention the wpix lettering). Although the lower grandstand steps and risers are the same all the way around, the seating layout varies and this spot has been illusive. After that renovation those lower ten rows they rebuilt are pitched a couple less degrees than the rest of the lower stands. I can still use more pictures of course, that area was under photographed, probably had something to do with the harsh light on the left side.

[The Monument]

Tell me, how do you get bird **** on the bottom? Do Bronx pigeon's strafe?

Voodoo, that is actually not bird crap. It's formed by dripping water, like a stalactite. Used to see them in the subways all the time. Steiner will be selling them soon, as "Genuine Old Yankee Stadium Water Damage". Maybe even freeze dry them for you.

[Gehrig27]

It also kinda looks like the original concrete is showing under the peeling paint from the renovation.

[David Atkatz]

It also kinda looks like the original concrete is showing under the peeling paint from the renovation.

You must mean the original limestone. ;-)

[Gehrig27]

You must mean the original limestone. ;-)

haha, of course, just as Babe Ruth saw it.

[David Atkatz]

I'm sure Ruth saw Gate 2, but not as a Yankee.

It was built in 1937, three years after Ruth's last Yankee season.

[stadiumbuilder]

gate 2 was built in 1928 and gate 6 in '37

[YankeesFan]

gate 2 was built in 1928 and gate 6 in '37

I have always known of Gates 2, 4 & 6. Both in OYS and RYS. Was there ever gates 1, 2 and/or 5?

[jimmyjimjimz]

I have always known of Gates 2, 4 & 6. Both in OYS and RYS. Was there ever gates 1, 2 and/or 5?

no there weren't

[RichardLillard1]

You're slipping, David. Gate 2 was finished in 1928, there are pictures of Ruth with the left field extension in the background. Ruth definitely saw it as a Yankee.

Also, the lowest section of Gate 2 (the actual entrance ways) are original to the Stadium from 1923.


Richard


EDIT: Just saw that stadiumbuilder beat me to it.

[YankeesFan]

You're slipping, David. Gate 2 was finished in 1928, there are pictures of Ruth with the left field extension in the background. Ruth definitely saw it as a Yankee.

Also, the lowest section of Gate 2 (the actual entrance ways) are original to the Stadium from 1923.


Richard


EDIT: Just saw that stadiumbuilder beat me to it.


I've read on here that the original Gate 2 in the pre-renovated stadium would only take fans to the switchback ramps. You could not access the field level concourse.

Does anyone know how this renovated area was reconstructed to allow fans to access the field level concourse area?

[David Atkatz]

Man, I'm gettin' old!

Can't keep straight which is right field, and which is left.

My bad.

[jimmyjimjimz]

I've read on here that the original Gate 2 in the pre-renovated stadium would only take fans to the switchback ramps. You could not access the field level concourse.

Does anyone know how this renovated area was reconstructed to allow fans to access the field level concourse area?

what are switchback ramps?

[CrazyMind2017]

no there weren't
How do you know that?

[jimmyjimjimz]

How do you know that?

Because I've been to Yankee Stadium. I never saw a Gate 1, I never saw a Gate 3, and I never saw a Gate 5. Old old Yankee Stadium, I've never been to (the pre-renovated Stadium = Old old Yankee Stadium) so I can't really tell you if it ever had a gate 1, 3 or 5.

[David Atkatz]

Every once in a while, jjj, try looking something up on your own.

If everything you question was explained to you, there'd be very little time for anything else.

[brooklyndodger14]

what are switchback ramps?

They are ramps that would ascend/descend for a certain length and then end with a level plateau area, and then continue in the opposite direction for the same length up (or down) to the next level.

It's called "switchback" because at each succeeding "flat" level you turn 180 degrees to continue to your level.

The exterior of Shea and their ramp system best illustrates the concept.

Dennis
BrooklynDodger14

[CrazyMind2017]

Because I've been to Yankee Stadium. I never saw a Gate 1, I never saw a Gate 3, and I never saw a Gate 5. Old old Yankee Stadium, I've never been to (the pre-renovated Stadium = Old old Yankee Stadium) so I can't really tell you if it ever had a gate 1, 3 or 5.
If you read the original question that you answered, the questioner used the abbreviations OYS and RYS. Presumably, if he had also included monstrosity currently in use, he would have used the abbreviation NYS. These abbreviations are totally inconsistent with your phraseology, for which the abbreviations OOYS and OYS would be required.

Since the original questioner clearly intended the question to apply to both the 1923-1973 and 1976-2008 versions of Yankee Stadium, your answer was incorrect.

[CrazyMind2017]

I've read on here that the original Gate 2 in the pre-renovated stadium would only take fans to the switchback ramps. You could not access the field level concourse.

Does anyone know how this renovated area was reconstructed to allow fans to access the field level concourse area?
I'm only speculating here based on my familiarity with the configuration from 1996-2008 and based on Dennis's previous information about how the Field Level 22 portal (pre-renovation) led down into a big room with a dirt floor, but I think what probably happened is that the field level concourse was closed off somewhere around where the food court was located (or maybe where the Section 24 gift shop ended up being located, right near the employee entrance). During the renovation, that portal was raised to lead to the Field Level concourse that ran under the Main Reserve seats and was opened for fan access. A new portal was added between Sections 28 and 30.

I think anyone who entered Gate 2 had to walk up the switchback ramps at least one level to get to the Main Level concourse. I also think I remember Dennis posted it was possible to turn left upon entering Gate 2 and make your way through the visitor's bullpen (or near it) and access the Field Level cross-aisle that way. To do this, you'd have to walk past the area that later was used for the Gate 2 escalator tower.

Again, I'm doing more speculating here, but I think anyone who had Loge (Mezzanine) or upper deck seats prior to the 1928 and 1937 expansions had to enter Gate 4 and use the switchback ramps behind the plate to get up above the grandstand. There were no escalators or elevators anywhere in the building, and I'm not sure if there was a single switchback ramp installed yet in right field. There may have been one, near the area that later became the sidewalk cafe. The other one out behind Section 35 was absolutely not yet built, since the bleachers extended all the way to the right field foul pole. Can anyone confirm or deny a switchback ramp in right field prior to 1937?

[SparkyL]

I have always known of Gates 2, 4 & 6. Both in OYS and RYS. Was there ever gates 1, 2 and/or 5?

no there weren't

There's a picture of thre kids outside of gate 4 from the 50's with a directional sign in the background for the ood numbered gates . . . .

[brooklyndodger14]

I'm only speculating here based on my familiarity with the configuration from 1996-2008 and based on Dennis's previous information about how the Field Level 22 portal (pre-renovation) led down into a big room with a dirt floor, but I think what probably happened is that the field level concourse was closed off somewhere around where the food court was located (or maybe where the Section 24 gift shop ended up being located, right near the employee entrance). During the renovation, that portal was raised to lead to the Field Level concourse that ran under the Main Reserve seats and was opened for fan access. A new portal was added between Sections 28 and 30.

I think anyone who entered Gate 2 had to walk up the switchback ramps at least one level to get to the Main Level concourse. I also think I remember Dennis posted it was possible to turn left upon entering Gate 2 and make your way through the visitor's bullpen (or near it) and access the Field Level cross-aisle that way. To do this, you'd have to walk past the area that later was used for the Gate 2 escalator tower.

Again, I'm doing more speculating here, but I think anyone who had Loge (Mezzanine) or upper deck seats prior to the 1928 and 1937 expansions had to enter Gate 4 and use the switchback ramps behind the plate to get up above the grandstand. There were no escalators or elevators anywhere in the building, and I'm not sure if there was a single switchback ramp installed yet in right field. There may have been one, near the area that later became the sidewalk cafe. The other one out behind Section 35 was absolutely not yet built, since the bleachers extended all the way to the right field foul pole. Can anyone confirm or deny a switchback ramp in right field prior to 1937?


Hello CrazyMind2017,

First off, its great to see a fellow Stadium vendor brethren with a passion for the "inside" Stadium. I worked from 1971 to 1983 and still have several aprons, a few hats, striped shirts, and several buttons from those days, including the oft-maligned 1967 "psychedelic" graphics uniform seen in another Fever Stadium thread.

To answer your last question, there in fact was a switchback ramp system in the RF area at the time of the 1923 Stadium debut. It was located right at the junction of the "Bloody Angle" bleachers met the main grandstand behind the RF foul pole.

You can see it here at the far left of the top photo.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w241/fafafooey69/OYS-NYS-LFbleachers.jpg

Dennis
BrooklynDodger14

[CrazyMind2017]

Hello CrazyMind2017,

First off, its great to see a fellow Stadium vendor brethren with a passion for the "inside" Stadium. I worked from 1971 to 1983 and still have several aprons, a few hats, striped shirts, and several buttons from those days, including the oft-maligned 1967 "psychedelic" graphics uniform seen in another Fever Stadium thread.

To answer your last question, there in fact was a switchback ramp system in the RF area at the time of the 1923 Stadium debut. It was located right at the junction of the "Bloody Angle" bleachers met the main grandstand behind the RF foul pole.

You can see it here at the far left of the top photo.

Dennis
BrooklynDodger14
Nice picture... I guess we know where this photo of the RF cross-section was taken from. I would have to guess that's the same switchback ramp that's still there today.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/CF5/DM%20Yankee%20Stadium/RF2.jpg

One thing I realized and then confirmed by looking at some overhead pictures of the Stadium is that the switchback ramps are all in areas of the Stadium that curve, and in those areas, the footprint of the Stadium is larger than in the straight areas. If you take a look at an aerial picture, you'll see the area above the concourses (not the upper deck roof that was removed but the back part that was built upon) directly in front of each gate is wider than it is anywhere else. This was to accommodate the ramps. Otherwise, the ramps would have been so wide they would have obliterated the concourses. Even with the extra space, the usable width of the concourses directly in front of the ramps is rather limited on all levels.

I also wanted to thank you again for all your posts and information. My first year vending was the year the company changed the name from Volume Services to Volume Services America, and they changed the logo too. I have a few smocks, aprons, hats, and a couple pairs of those white sailor pants. I'm sure we know a lot of the same people, since so many of the older vendors started while you were still working there. Did you ever stop by in the last several years before a game out by the left field foul pole to say hello to anybody you knew from vending? Most of us sat out there in Main Boxes 328 and 330 until about 6:15, then the sheet would get posted around 6:30-6:40. Did they post a sheet when you were there, or did they announce call? From 1999-2002 or so they had everybody gather in the front corner (on the far outer part of the footprint, right under the gift shop) of the basement, between the senior vendors' lockers and the soda machines, pretty much right in front of the hallway that contained the NYPD detail room. Then later on, they'd post the sheet at the end of the hallway that contained the laundry room, just a few feet towards left field from the money room. There was an article on Steve Lazarus in the Daily News a few weeks ago... he started in 1977 and his number was in the low 50s last year if I recall correctly, so there are several dozen vendors who we both probably know or least know of.

[ChineseDemocracy]

Tell me more about this basement you speak so fondly of.

And any other parts of the stadium that outsiders like us wouldn't know about! :bowdown:

[jimmyjimjimz]

If you read the original question that you answered, the questioner used the abbreviations OYS and RYS. Presumably, if he had also included monstrosity currently in use, he would have used the abbreviation NYS. These abbreviations are totally inconsistent with your phraseology, for which the abbreviations OOYS and OYS would be required.

Since the original questioner clearly intended the question to apply to both the 1923-1973 and 1976-2008 versions of Yankee Stadium, your answer was incorrect.

would you please rephrase that in english? I don't understand what you said.

[David Atkatz]

jjj, why do you pride yourself in either acting--or truly being--ignorant?

[CrazyMind2017]

would you please rephrase that in english?

No........

[Gary Dunaier]

if you read the original question that you answered, the questioner used the abbreviations oys and rys. Presumably, if he had also included monstrosity currently in use, he would have used the abbreviation nys. These abbreviations are totally inconsistent with your phraseology, for which the abbreviations ooys and oys would be required.

Since the original questioner clearly intended the question to apply to both the 1923-1973 and 1976-2008 versions of yankee stadium, your answer was incorrect.

would you please rephrase that in english? I don't understand what you said.

その場合、元の質問と回答を読むと、質問者は、略語を使用oysとrys 。おそらく、彼はまた、現在使用中の巨大含まれていたが、使用される略語ニだろう。これらの略語を完全oo ysとoysの略語が義務付けられているあなたの言い方は、矛盾しています。

元の質問から明らかに両方の1923-1973および1976-2008にヤンキースタジアムのバージョンを適用するには、あなたの質問に答えが間違っていたつもりでした 。 [ /

[CrazyMind2017]

Tell me more about this basement you speak so fondly of.

And any other parts of the stadium that outsiders like us wouldn't know about! :bowdown:

LOL I'll try to do my best. There's really nothing interesting about the basement except that most people don't have access to it, so it somehow seems elusive. It's like going backstage at a Billy Joel concert. All you get to do is smell their dirty socks after they've left for the night. I don't know anything about the room with the dirt floor, since it was gone before I was born. Based on the description of its location that we've been given, I would have to guess it was in the basement near the area of the employee's entrance, but possibly closer to home plate.

Notice in this picture, the width of the ballpark is fatter around the curve. As I mentioned earlier, I think this was to accommodate the width of the ramps. Otherwise, there wouldn't have been room for the ramps and the concourses. This also meant that in the basement, where there were no ramps, there was plenty of room for offices, batting cages in right field, etc.

Here's a very rough sketch, and I make no guarantees as to its accuracy. This is all post-renovation stuff, and I'm sure some of the locations are off, maybe by a significant amount, but it should give you a basic idea of what I'm talking about.

BLUE - Stadium Club restaurant (mostly on basement level, but a small portion on field level, with stair cases inside the restaurant)

PINK - Employee Entrance and staircase that leads directly down to the basement - upon entering the Stadium this way, the staircase was immediately to the left. Proceeding straight put you directly next to the bottom of the left field switchback ramp farthest away from Gate 2. Directly to your right was the section 24/26 gift shop, and then a little more to the right, beyond the gift shop was an elevator. The corresponding staircase behind home plate is the one the players used, home and away.

YELLOW - Concessions accounting office directly at the bottom of the stairs

BRIGHT GREEN - Hallway - the one I'm familiar with is the one with the soda machines. The orange hallway is the one with the laundry room. The white spot next to it is the money room. The red one is where the cops have a small room to themselves. There were always a lot of NYPD bicycles in that hallway. If you went down the stairs, turned right to walk through the outer green hallway and continued a little past the red hallway, going straight, this led to the senior vendors' locker room. The hallway that wraps around the entire Stadium is the one that you could peek into at the bottom of the metal staircase leading down to Monument Park. This hallway ran below rows A and B of the Main Boxes. Between left field and home plate was where Burns Security had their locker room. Further down was the visiting clubhouse and the tunnels leading to the dugouts. If you went down the players' staircase, you'd be on the basement level almost directly behind home plate, just slightly off to the third base side. Moving to the left, it would lead you to the visitor's clubhouse, to the right would take you to the Yankees clubhouse. There's a story that when John Wetteland returned with Texas in 1997, he instinctively walked to the right without thinking and then had to stop and go back the other way.

CYAN - This was the main commissary. Most of the crappy food being sold originated here.

Most of the area not filled in between those hallways is just more offices. I never really spent much time in the basement away from left field, only once every other year or so when I went to renew my employee ID or pick up my last check of the year or whatever... I'd usually enter the main lobby, take the elevator down, and walk past the visiting dugout to get to the basement under left field. Sometimes the employee entrance would be open, so I'd go in that way and I wouldn't get to walk past the dugout. I never went to the first base side of the basement, so I have no idea what the layout was. I know there were batting cages down there, the Gehrig room, a daycare center for the players' kids, and I think a lounge for the wives.

[MarthaT]

その場合、元の質問と回答を読むと、質問者は、略語を使用oysとrys 。おそらく、彼はまた、現在使用中の巨大含まれていたが、使用される略語ニだろう。これらの略語を完全oo ysとoysの略語が義務付けられているあなたの言い方は、矛盾しています。

元の質問から明らかに両方の1923-1973および1976-2008にヤンキースタジアムのバージョンを適用するには、あなたの質問に答えが間違っていたつもりでした 。 [ /

what:faint:?

[YankeeStadium1923]

Thank You! That photo does help some, doesn't reveal everything I need, but it does have a couple more clues. It is definately '46 or after because the curved back seats are in (not to mention the wpix lettering). Although the lower grandstand steps and risers are the same all the way around, the seating layout varies and this spot has been illusive. After that renovation those lower ten rows they rebuilt are pitched a couple less degrees than the rest of the lower stands. I can still use more pictures of course, that area was under photographed, probably had something to do with the harsh light on the left side.
Heres a few more black and white photos I scanned in from my archives.
I may be able to get higher res versions of the seat layouts if you need.

I also came across an old film from Yankee Stadium that I purchased
on Ebay about 9 years ago. The film is 16mm and was a commercial
shot for the auto industry. In the commercial a section of Yankee
Seats were replaced with a new bench seat that was to be used in
there automobiles. I think it shows a fly by from behind homeplate to
the leftfield seats. Unfortunately I never viewed the film because I do
not own a 16mm projector. Maybe I could have the film transfered
to dvd. I will check on it later.

[stadiumbuilder]

YankeeStadium1923, thank you thank you thank you!!! :bowdown:That first shot does the job. Laying out the rows and maximizing seating capacity in the pie-shaped sections was a challenge for them and they took several different approaches in the three curves. If I had proceeded based on my guesstimate, I would have been a bit off.:faint: I would gladly pay $2600 to see one more game in this stadium and it wouldn't even have to be the Yankees. Minor league, little league, I wouldn't care.

[Gary Dunaier]

BRIGHT GREEN - Hallway - the one I'm familiar with is the one with the soda machines. The orange hallway is the one with the laundry room. The white spot next to it is the money room. The red one is where the cops have a small room to themselves. There were always a lot of NYPD bicycles in that hallway. If you went down the stairs, turned right to walk through the outer green hallway and continued a little past the red hallway, going straight, this led to the senior vendors' locker room. The hallway that wraps around the entire Stadium is the one that you could peek into at the bottom of the metal staircase leading down to Monument Park. This hallway ran below rows A and B of the Main Boxes. Between left field and home plate was where Burns Security had their locker room. Further down was the visiting clubhouse and the tunnels leading to the dugouts. If you went down the players' staircase, you'd be on the basement level almost directly behind home plate, just slightly off to the third base side. Moving to the left, it would lead you to the visitor's clubhouse, to the right would take you to the Yankees clubhouse. There's a story that when John Wetteland returned with Texas in 1997, he instinctively walked to the right without thinking and then had to stop and go back the other way.

I was in this hallway when I took the Yankee Stadium tour in late October of last year (the noon tour on October 30, to be exact). After Monument Park, instead of bringing us directly on the field they led us through this hallway, or tunnel, below the stands on the left field side, and we eventually entered the field through the visitors' dugout. There were a couple of framed "motivational" signs from Securitas (Burns' successor) on the wall to my left, and I also recall the hallway with the NYPD bikes.

But you don't have to rely on my memory. I took pictures as I was going through the tunnel, and I posted them on Flickr. Unfortunately, I can't access Flickr at work, but if you go to Flickr and search for my photos (as is the case here, I use my real name there), you'll find a set for the Yankee Stadium noon tour 10/30/08, and some of those shots might be of relevance to the present discussion.

[threeyoda]

..........................

[SparkyL]

I have always known of Gates 2, 4 & 6. Both in OYS and RYS. Was there ever gates 1, 2 and/or 5?

Here's a picture with a directional sign for gates 3-4-5. The odd numbered gates may have been "minor" entrances, like the employee entrance near Gate 2 at the base of one of the ramps. Any ideas?

[NYFan1stYankFan2nd]

jjj, why do you pride yourself in either acting--or truly being--ignorant?

Lighten up on the guy. We are PMing about this and I doubt he's doing this /being this way on purpose. Besides, he's not the only one who has behaved this way in the past. ;)

[monkeypants]

Heres a few more black and white photos I scanned in from my archives.
I may be able to get higher res versions of the seat layouts if you need.

I also came across an old film from Yankee Stadium that I purchased
on Ebay about 9 years ago. The film is 16mm and was a commercial
shot for the auto industry. In the commercial a section of Yankee
Seats were replaced with a new bench seat that was to be used in
there automobiles. I think it shows a fly by from behind homeplate to
the leftfield seats. Unfortunately I never viewed the film because I do
not own a 16mm projector. Maybe I could have the film transfered
to dvd. I will check on it later.

Thanks for the scans, but I have to ask: is that third photo from ankee Stadium? The chain link fence and angle of the wall (which is LF, unless the photo is reversed) doesn't seem to match up with OYS. Perhaps that is a photo of Shibe Park?

[CrazyMind2017]

Thanks for the scans, but I have to ask: is that third photo from ankee Stadium? The chain link fence and angle of the wall (which is LF, unless the photo is reversed) doesn't seem to match up with OYS. Perhaps that is a photo of Shibe Park?
All three of those photos are absolutely, undoubtedly Yankee Stadium. The angle looks perfect to me, and I spent a lot of time down in left field in that area, albeit after the renovation. Look at the facing of the mezzanine with section numbers painted on it. Clearly Yankee Stadium 100%. There was a lot more foul territory before the renovation. That might be what's making the angle look different to you.

The first thing I noticed in the third photo was the height of the railings separating the boxes. That guy sitting barely has his head and face above the rail. Kind of surprising, but I guess that's how it was.

[brooklyndodger14]

Thanks for the scans, but I have to ask: is that third photo from ankee Stadium? The chain link fence and angle of the wall (which is LF, unless the photo is reversed) doesn't seem to match up with OYS. Perhaps that is a photo of Shibe Park?

Yes, it definitely is the LF corner view of OYS.

The disorientation is possibly from the effects of the picture having been shot with a telephoto lens. It creates a "flattened" image where everything in the foreground view is in very sharp focus regardless of the actual distance.

http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=70680&stc=1&d=1243944277

Here is the same area as seen in a well known Sandy Amoros moment in 1955:

http://www.hickoksports.com/images/amoroscatch.jpg

And another from the same direction (but a little higher) as the top photo:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/images/sports/year_in_sports/photos/10.04.jpg

Dennis
BrooklynDodger14

[YankeeStadium1923]

YankeeStadium1923, thank you thank you thank you!!! :bowdown:That first shot does the job. Laying out the rows and maximizing seating capacity in the pie-shaped sections was a challenge for them and they took several different approaches in the three curves. If I had proceeded based on my guesstimate, I would have been a bit off.:faint: I would gladly pay $2600 to see one more game in this stadium and it wouldn't even have to be the Yankees. Minor league, little league, I wouldn't care.

Your Welcome.....I figured the first photo was what you were looking for because it shows the field box seats and was photographed from the Rightfield Upper Deck. I'm going to still look into that commercial I have on film.

I saw Steve Wolf's model on display at Mickey Mantles and couldn't keep my eyes off it. For some reason I think yours is looking better and I look forward to seing the finished model.

I would give $2600 for a 1960's Behind the scenes tour of the Grand Cathedral....

[YankeeStadium1923]

Thanks for the scans, but I have to ask: is that third photo from ankee Stadium? The chain link fence and angle of the wall (which is LF, unless the photo is reversed) doesn't seem to match up with OYS. Perhaps that is a photo of Shibe Park?

It's Yankee Stadium....I cropped the photo to show a larger image of the seats for Stadiumbuilder. I bought the photo on Ebay some years ago and I believe it was a reprint.....The back of the photo is marked Yankee Stadium 1949.

[Gary Dunaier]

I was in this hallway when I took the Yankee Stadium tour in late October of last year (the noon tour on October 30, to be exact). After Monument Park, instead of bringing us directly on the field they led us through this hallway, or tunnel, below the stands on the left field side, and we eventually entered the field through the visitors' dugout. There were a couple of framed "motivational" signs from Securitas (Burns' successor) on the wall to my left, and I also recall the hallway with the NYPD bikes.

But you don't have to rely on my memory. I took pictures as I was going through the tunnel, and I posted them on Flickr. Unfortunately, I can't access Flickr at work, but if you go to Flickr and search for my photos (as is the case here, I use my real name there), you'll find a set for the Yankee Stadium noon tour 10/30/08, and some of those shots might be of relevance to the present discussion.

Now that I'm home I can post some of those photos...


The left field end of the stands. The mouth of the tunnel, or hallway, that our tour group went through can be seen at the right...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3011/2988389378_c9b776480a_b.jpg
(Photo taken October 30, 2008. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/2988389378/in/set-72157608518839686).)


Notices to workers. I suppose CrazyMind2017 has had it up to here with regulatory signs like these...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3202/2988389832_7420fb01cd_b.jpg
(Photo taken October 30, 2008. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/2988389832/in/set-72157608518839686).)


A view inside the tunnel as it curves around the left field corner...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3277/2988390744_63ccc0ca2b_b.jpg
(Photo taken October 30, 2008. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/2988390744/in/set-72157608518839686).)


The hallway with the NYPD motorcycles...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2370/2987532303_5e4a1ee968_b.jpg
(Photo taken October 30, 2008. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/2987532303/in/set-72157608518839686).)


Moving on forward down the tunnel...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3252/2987532795_f9b4be87a1_b.jpg
(Photo taken October 30, 2008. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/2987532795/in/set-72157608518839686).)


The first two of at least six "motivational" Securitas signs in the hallway...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3026/2988392128_6a8369e35c_b.jpg
(Photo taken October 30, 2008. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/2988392128/in/set-72157608518839686).)


One last look down the hallway. The people in the distance are turning left, where they will walk down the tunnel towards the visitors' dugout; I'm guessing the door to the right of those people (not the door in the foreground) is the entrance to the visitors' clubhouse...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3235/2987534695_50625bd548_b.jpg
(Photo taken October 30, 2008. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/2987534695/in/set-72157608518839686).)

[jimmyjimjimz]

jjj, why do you pride yourself in either acting--or truly being--ignorant?

why do you have to be so judgemental? Maybe sometimes some people just don't understand me. Maybe they just don't get where I'm comming from. You really shouldn't judge someone until you personally know them.

[CrazyMind2017]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3202/2988389832_7420fb01cd_b.jpg

The sign-in room was located just inside the hallway, directly under section 36. Loooking at the picture of the outside of the hallway, I think it ran under rows C and D of the Main Boxes, not A and B as previous stated.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3277/2988390744_63ccc0ca2b_b.jpg

That window covered by the silver metal roll-down grate on the right was where employee meals were prepared. NO FOOD FOR VENDORS! Only commissary workers were allowed to eat! Just beyond that is the hallway with the laundry room, which was practically right next to the small kitchen for employee dog slop. You can't see it in this picture, but on the wall to the left just opposite the hallway with the laundry room, there were two glass-enclosed pin-up boards where the vending list would be posted starting around 2002 or 2003. Instead of having roll call, we'd just find where we were working and what we were selling by looking at the list. It would get really, really crowded down there. The two doors where the two guys are standing both brought you to the money room. Just beyond that to the right is the hallway with the NYPD bikes.

Notice the ceiling is the underside of Main Box rows. That white covering wasn't installed until probably about 2002 or 2003. What you don't see is the thick layer of asbestos lining the underside of the concrete.

Occasionally, we'd see players or ball boys being transported from the clubhouse area through this hallway on a golf cart out to the bullpens. Only once did I see ever see a player walking on his own power through this area of the ballpark. I think it was Dan Wilson walking out to the bullpen in full catcher's gear. The only Yankee players I ever saw were usually on the DL at the time. I think I remember Jeff Nelson on the golf cart. These memories are very vague. I never really thought it was a big deal to see them down there.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2370/2987532303_5e4a1ee968_b.jpg

Those big piles of orange cones are standing right where all the vendors would congregate for roll call for the first few years I was working at the ballpark, 1999-2002. To the left of those cones brought you to the senior vendor's locker room. To the right brought you to the soda machines, accounting office, and the stairs leading up to the employee entrance. I never kept anything in a locker during 10 years of working at the ballpark. Too many locks would get busted and people's stuff got stolen. The black doors on the left were the police rooms. They were right next to the vendors' locker room and never did anything to prevent lockers from being broken into. Where's a cop when you need one?

I never worked a minute in Yankee Stadium without wearing two pairs of pants - my regular jeans covered by the assigned white sailor pants. I kept a plastic bag folded up in my pocket so I could quickly remove my vending uniform anywhere I wanted without having to get undressed. This was key in being able to leave early without getting caught. Only once did I get caught, and I didn't even get in trouble for it.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3252/2987532795_f9b4be87a1_b.jpg

The snack machine was very close to the security locker room. The yellow handrails sticking out of the wall help to enclose a pair of pay phones.

[ChineseDemocracy]

I had no idea the Stadium Club was so big.

I've only seen a few pictures of the Stadium Club and the Pinstripe Pub, and those pictures can still be found on yankees.com

[CrazyMind2017]

I don't think it's actually quite as big as my illustration. There's probably other stuff down there that I forgot about or never knew about. It is rather long length-wise though. If you ever saw the Stadium Club entrance, there was, for lack of a better term, a ditch that ran under the small staircase leading to that entrance and alongside the third base side of the outside of the Stadium. There were stair cases leading up from either side of the ditch, one near the main lobby entrance around section 4 or 6, and at the other end around probably section 16, 18, or 20, approximately. At the bottom of each stair case was a door comprised completely of stained glass displaying giant Yankee tophat logos. These doors were at either end of the Stadium Club, with plenty of table seating in between. The staircase inside the restaurant that led up to the field level concourse entrance of the Stadium Club at around section 10 or 12 was right in the middle of this large room. There are lots of large photos of old-time Yankees on the walls in the dining area. The wood finish on the walls around the photos and everywhere else was clearly aged, but it still looked nice.

[ChineseDemocracy]

Were there signs on the field level concourse that said "SPECIAL LOUNGE?" I'm trying to figure out if I may have walked right past that area when I went last August.

And the Stadium Club has been around since before the renovation, right?

As a vendor, did you have access to the Acela Club Level? That's another part of the park that hasn't really been covered on this board.

[CrazyMind2017]

The "Special Lounge" sign is likely the one on the Main Level concourse in section 24. There was a room up there for the MVP runners (the people who would deliver food orders to the fans in the padded Field Box and Main Box seats) to hang out and do stuff, I don't really know what they did though.

The Club Level was just that - for people who had tickets for the 19 luxury suites behind home plate. I never even bothered to try to go in there, nor would I really want to either. Not my type of crowd.

I did occasionally hang out near the Yankee Offices on the Loge Level for my first few years. I got a picture of myself with the 1977 trophy when it was on display in the office there. I don't know where the picture is though.

I know the Stadium Club has been around since before the renovation, because I have an entry pass for it dated 1949. I have no idea if it was renovated or when. It looks like it could be that old possibly.

[voodoochile]

I recall hearing a story shortly after the '74-'75 renovation that they discovered a large trunk, or trunks in a presumably locked room under the grandstands that had uniforms, gloves, bats, etc. that Pete Sheehy had put away that once belonged to players from Gehrig's time, among others. Anyone have any recollection of this?

[voodoochile]

Speaking of the switchback ramps, would anyone have, or know of a source where I could find a clean inside shot of this structure?

[ChineseDemocracy]

I recall hearing a story shortly after the '74-'75 renovation that they discovered a large trunk, or trunks in a presumably locked room under the grandstands that had uniforms, gloves, bats, etc. that Pete Sheehy had put away that once belonged to players from Gehrig's time, among others. Anyone have any recollection of this?

I think they stored those away in the vault that also had pennants and other items of interest. I have no idea where the vault in the real YS was located, and I certainly hope all those things were transferred to the place across the street.

[CrazyMind2017]

Oh I found a picture of the "ditch," which actually looks more like a "moat" ;) next to the Stadium Club restaurant. THANKS YanksRule.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3331/3590747049_3e66b61a1d.jpg?v=0

The restaurant ran the entire length of this.

[YankeeStadium1923]

Oh I found a picture of the "ditch," which actually looks more like a "moat" ;) next to the Stadium Club restaurant. THANKS YanksRule.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3331/3590747049_3e66b61a1d.jpg?v=0

The restaurant ran the entire length of this.
I always had an interest in this area and years ago went down in that moat to explore.
I guess in later years the staircase was locked or always locked and I was just a bit more adventurous and climbed over the fencing. Here is a photo of the back of the stained glass window and the actual front of the window inside the club. I remember seeing C.C. and A.J. being announced as Yankees in front of this stained glass window on YES.

[monkeypants]

It's Yankee Stadium....I cropped the photo to show a larger image of the seats for Stadiumbuilder. I bought the photo on Ebay some years ago and I believe it was a reprint.....The back of the photo is marked Yankee Stadium 1949.


Whoops--you guys are all correct!

[voodoochile]

That "ditch" or "trench" area, however you want to refer to it as, appears to emcompass the entire stadium from photos I've seen. Up until the time that the stadium closed last year did it continue to serve a function, or was everything sealed up?

[brooklyndodger14]

That "ditch" or "trench" area, however you want to refer to it as, appears to emcompass the entire stadium from photos I've seen. Up until the time that the stadium closed last year did it continue to serve a function, or was everything sealed up?

The ditch/trench area referred to by CrazyMind2017 is of course the RYS location of their Stadium Club and the only surviving region of the sub-street level that surrounded a good portion of the OYS grandstand.

The existance of the trench allowed daylight to reach the basement level including both clubhouses, storage and office spaces, and even the old vendor's locker room located in the basement around Section 23 (1B side near the RF foul pole). In general, this was a fairly common practice in NYC at the time.

The best reference of this is seen in Kaplanski's 3D Yankee Stadium model. Along the 3B side you can see that the surviving Stadium club segment was once part of a longer trench that extended all the way to the LF foul pole region (Section 22).

http://www.digitalcentrality.com/Yankee_Stadium/renderings/05_05_09_01.jpg

BYW, in the 2008 Yankees Magazine Series "The Stadium" there is a picture of the "new" Stadium Club bar from the 1946 renovations. I can only guess that its location were the series of middle windows seen immediately after the ramp system to the left of Gate 4, but anyone can please correct me here if I'm wrong.


Dennis
BrooklynDodger14

[YankeesFan]

The ditch/trench area referred to by CrazyMind2017 is of course the RYS location of their Stadium Club and the only surviving region of the sub-street level that surrounded a good portion of the OYS grandstand.

The existance of the trench allowed daylight to reach the basement level including both clubhouses, storage and office spaces, and even the old vendor's locker room located in the basement around Section 23 (1B side near the RF foul pole). In general, this was a fairly common practice in NYC at the time.

The best reference of this is seen in Kaplanski's 3D Yankee Stadium model. Along the 3B side you can see that the surviving Stadium club segment was once part of a longer trench that extended all the way to the LF foul pole region (Section 22).

http://www.digitalcentrality.com/Yankee_Stadium/renderings/05_05_09_01.jpg

BYW, in the 2008 Yankees Magazine Series "The Stadium" there is a picture of the "new" Stadium Club bar from the 1946 renovations. I can only guess that its location were the series of middle windows seen immediately after the ramp system to the left of Gate 4, but anyone can please correct me here if I'm wrong.


Dennis
BrooklynDodger14

I've read that during the CBS era, Mike Burke moved the Yankees offices from midtown to Yankee Stadium. The offices I believe were located on the 1st base side on the Mezzanine level. Though if accurate, I don't know what this area would have been used for before Burke moved in.

If The Stadium Club goes back to at least 1946, has The Yankee Club only been around since the '76 renovations?

[Milwaukee County Stadium]

Here are some photos of Yankee Stadium Pre Renovation from Getty that I don't think were posted here yet.

[Milwaukee County Stadium]

Here are some more photos of Yankee Stadium Pre Renovation from getty I don't think were posted here yet.

[Milwaukee County Stadium]

Here are more photos of Yankee Stadium Pre Renovation from getty I don't think were posted here yet.

[Lpeters199]

1971 shot from Flickr.

[Lpeters199]

From The Village Voice Blog:

[Milwaukee County Stadium]

More photos

[Milwaukee County Stadium]

Some more photos of Yankee Stadium

[Milwaukee County Stadium]

Some more Pre Renovation Yankee Stadium Photos

[Milwaukee County Stadium]

some more photos

[Milwaukee County Stadium]

the last of the photos

[soup]

that place was perfect

[Mastermind]

that place was perfect


I get chills from the pics

great memories

[stadiumbuilder]

Great group of fresh photos, thanks for sharing.

[atdy17]

the last of the photos
http://www.baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=70850&stc=1&d=1244144212


Anyone knows what are those things on the second deck in the last pictures? Looks like suites.

[soup]

Anyone knows what are those things on the second deck in the last pictures? Looks like suites.

Those would be football pressboxes (see how near Mid field they are?) There were also football pressboxes on the same level in the right field upper deck overhang.

[atdy17]

Those would be football pressboxes (see how near Mid field they are?) There were also football pressboxes on the same level in the right field upper deck overhang.

Now it makes sense. I guess Yankee staduim was the first historic staduim in football history.

[soup]

the last of the photos

That one looks like they sodded in the infield. I don't think I've seen that before in any of the football configuration pictures

[Lpeters199]

From Richard Friedman's blog:

http://rchrd.com/blog/wp/?m=200809

[Lpeters199]

A smaller version of the previous pic, so it can all be seen without scrolling. What a sight she was!

[yankies4life]

that place was perfect

that is the truth, i wish i was born 55 years earlier just to see that place with my own eyes. sucks that i missed out

[04golf]

^^^
Ive never seen that stadium, just shows how much the renovation was.

[CrazyMind2017]

^^^
Ive never seen that stadium, just shows how much the renovation was.

Take a look around this forum and read threads on the renovation and the post-renovation Stadium pictures. It was the same place. The renovation didn't change that much.

[soup]

Take a look around this forum and read threads on the renovation and the post-renovation Stadium pictures. It was the same place. The renovation didn't change that much.

That's all a matter of opinion.

I happen to think that the two places were entirely different

[mackenzie]

A smaller version of the previous pic, so it can all be seen without scrolling. What a sight she was!

And so she can remain!

Regards,
Mark

[Rob R]

Take a look around this forum and read threads on the renovation and the post-renovation Stadium pictures. It was the same place. The renovation didn't change that much.


http://www.essortment.com/lifestyle/whattoexpectd_sfbd.htm ;)

[CrazyMind2017]

That's all a matter of opinion.

I happen to think that the two places were entirely different

To a degree, it's a matter of opinion. The fact is the concourses, ramps, hallways, well over 50% of the concrete in the seating area, and nearly 100% of the outer concrete wall were never removed, replaced, or significantly changed.

Part of appreciating how much of the original remained was knowing what to look for after the renovation. If you were part of the group that was told the entire Stadium was knocked down and rebuilt from the ground up, you likely wouldn't stop to think whether the ramp you're climbing on your way to the upper deck was original from 1923. It wasn't until after I walked out of the place for the final time that I really became curious about what actually happened during the renovation. One poster recently mentioned how he liked walking the ramps to the upper deck because he could see where the windows above the arched windows were filled in with cinder blocks and concrete. In a way, even though I spent as much time as I did there over the past 10-15 years, I missed out on that, because I didn't know what to look for. After having worked there for the past 10 years and becoming very familiar with the place, and having never set foot in the place before the renovation, the pictures of Yankee Stadium from 1923-1973 are becoming more and more familiar.

The thread on the renovation itself is up to 50 pages already, but if you read it and become familiar with exactly what was done and what wasn't done, I think you'll start to appreciate more just how much of the original Stadium remained. There were some significant changes, but it was still the same place. I'm starting to feel like I had actually seen games prior to the renovation, and that's because I'm starting to realize it really was the same place, even without the frieze.

[CrazyMind2017]

http://www.essortment.com/lifestyle/whattoexpectd_sfbd.htm ;)

Is Lonn Trost your uncle?

[Rob R]

Tell me, how do you get bird **** on the bottom? Do Bronx pigeon's strafe?
Probably the same wind that's blowing the ball out of NYS.

[Rob R]

Is Lonn Trost your uncle?

Very original. Del Webb must be yours

[CrazyMind2017]

Probably the same wind that's blowing the ball out of NYS.

Off-topic.

Very original. Del Webb must be yours
I don't know about anybody else, but I interpret this as a passive, implicit confession.

Dell Webb and Mr. Topping no longer have a stake in the team, and therefore, no agenda.

The people who need an eye exam are the ones who have been brainwashed into believing the House of Ruthlessness actually looks like Yankee Stadium.

Now, can we try to stay on topic please?

[jimmyjimjimz]

A smaller version of the previous pic, so it can all be seen without scrolling. What a sight she was!

Does anyone know if anyone ever went on those porches outside the windows? Theyre still there (at least by Gate 2). I'm going to the game today, so if I remember, and if it's not all boarded up, I'll take pictures.

[Gary Dunaier]

One poster recently mentioned how he liked walking the ramps to the upper deck because he could see where the windows above the arched windows were filled in with cinder blocks and concrete.

That might explain this...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3259/2874133849_a6b2f06062_b.jpg
(Photo taken September 20, 2008. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/2874133849/in/set-72157607401545368/).)


I have absolutely no idea what that is or was. It was located at the bottom of this ramp, on the right side; we're on the Tier level (upper deck). My notes on Flickr indicate that this is somewhere behind home plate, but as I'm reviewing the photo for this post I'm wondering if my writeup was in error and maybe this is closer to right field (Gate 6). Can't say for sure at this point. Anyway, if you look closely you can see the outline of the bricked up area on the white portion of the wall.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3058/2874133469_799c7ee605_b.jpg
(Photo taken September 20, 2008. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/2874133469/in/set-72157607401545368/).)

[Gary Dunaier]

Does anyone know if anyone ever went on those porches outside the windows? Theyre still there (at least by Gate 2). I'm going to the game today, so if I remember, and if it's not all boarded up, I'll take pictures.

Doesn't look like there was much room for anyone to go out on those porches...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2262/2387099570_78de67082e_b.jpg
(Photo taken April 2, 2008. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/2387099570/).)

[Gary Dunaier]

On one of the Yankee Stadium tours, after we visited the press box we took the elevator down to the clubhouse. Before reaching the clubhouse level...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3154/3026005007_da6fdedcd6_b.jpg
(Photo taken November 12, 2008. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/3026005007/in/set-72157608993198508/).)


...it made a stop on the ground level.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3003/3025850593_4360203a9f_b.jpg
(Photo taken November 12, 2008. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/3025850593/in/set-72157608993198508/).)


You see those doors straight ahead which lead to the street? For the life of me, I can't visualize where those doors let you out. Obvioiusly, it's somewhere on 157th Street, but where on 157th, I don't know. Or are we looking towards the advance ticket windows?

[CrazyMind2017]

That's exactly what those bricks are in the wall Gary. Sucks for me, I never noticed them in person. It took your photo for me to actually see it with my own two eyes.

As for those silver doors, they led out to the far end of the sidewalk cafe, all the way down by the ticket windows. I don't recall seeing them there from the outside, but I know the elevator from which you took the picture was in section 15. The ticket office had an interior entry on field level in section 11, but the entire length of it was from about section 7 to 11 or 13. The sidewalk cafe was from approximately 15 to 23.

[YankeeStadium1923]

One poster recently mentioned how he liked walking the ramps to the upper deck because he could see where the windows above the arched windows were filled in with cinder blocks and concrete. In a way, even though I spent as much time as I did there over the past 10-15 years, I missed out on that, because I didn't know what to look for.

That was me walking the ramps.... I would point out the old openings filled in with cinder blocks to others walking with me.....No one really cared or seemed to take an interest. Just imagine what the renovated Yankee Stadium would have looked like if they removed those cinder blocks and replaced them with decorative windows.

Note: There were also ground level windows that were filled in during the renovation and you could see when beginning your journey up the ramps from ground level.

[YankeeStadium1923]

^^^
Ive never seen that stadium, just shows how much the renovation was.

Another great poster included a link they may be of interest to you...
It may help you out......Post#2631

[YankeeStadium1923]

http://www.essortment.com/lifestyle/whattoexpectd_sfbd.htm ;)
That may help out if you need glasses but what's the quick fix for commen sense?

[jimmyjimjimz]

Doesn't look like there was much room for anyone to go out on those porches...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2262/2387099570_78de67082e_b.jpg
(Photo taken April 2, 2008. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/2387099570/).)



Yeah, wow. I never realized how small those porches were. I thought they were a lot bigger, like at The Vatican.

[SparkyL]

That might explain this...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3259/2874133849_a6b2f06062_b.jpg
(Photo taken September 20, 2008. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/2874133849/in/set-72157607401545368/).)


I have absolutely no idea what that is or was. It was located at the bottom of this ramp, on the right side; we're on the Tier level (upper deck). My notes on Flickr indicate that this is somewhere behind home plate, but as I'm reviewing the photo for this post I'm wondering if my writeup was in error and maybe this is closer to right field (Gate 6). Can't say for sure at this point. Anyway, if you look closely you can see the outline of the bricked up area on the white portion of the wall.

The bricked-up windows that were visible on the ramps between the Loge and UD are the windows that were for the original UD concourse:

[shaneslatts]

Very original. Del Webb must be yours

Some people also think that because a cheap frieze was put on top of New Trost Stadium that it looks more like Yankee Stadium then Yankee Stadium

[Lpeters199]

From Wired New York Forum:

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16970&page=10

[Lpeters199]

A series of construction photos here:

http://www.yankeephotos.com/ViewPhotos.php

Some nice pics here:

http://mikemccann.blogspot.com/2008/08/some-classic-yankee-stadium-views.html

[Rob R]

Some people also think that because a cheap frieze was put on top of New Trost Stadium that it looks more like Yankee Stadium then Yankee Stadium

And some people accept that NYS is its own entity, not a carbon copy of OYS and far more attractive than RYS.

[Robbyb26]

And some people accept that NYS is its own entity, not a carbon copy of OYS and far more attractive than RYS.

We have no choice but to accept it. But it's not Yankee Stadium.

[CrazyMind2017]

We have no choice but to accept it.

We do have a choice! BOYCOTT! If I can do it, so can everybody else.

[jimmyjimjimz]

We do have a choice! BOYCOTT! If I can do it, so can everybody else.

dude
sometimes u gotta accept change and accept new thiongs. I mean, you don't expect to drive the same car you drive now in 85 years, do you?

[SultanOfWhat]

Those are some excellent color pics, Lpeters. Thanks for posting those links.

[CrazyMind2017]

dude
sometimes u gotta accept change and accept new thiongs. I mean, you don't expect to drive the same car you drive now in 85 years, do you?

Ironic you mentioned 85 years, because the car I drive is a 1985 Toyota.

[baseballman1243]

Ironic you mentioned 85 years, because the car I drive is a 1985 Toyota.

sorry to hear that....

[CrazyMind2017]

sorry to hear that....

I wouldn't trade it for any piece of crap built after 1996. Modern cars suck. There are only a small handful of 1995 and older cars I'd even consider trading my car for.

[kobathecat]

I wouldn't trade it for any piece of crap built after 1996. Modern cars suck. There are only a small handful of 1995 and older cars I'd even consider trading my car for.

that's a pretty blanket statement.

[yankees650B]

all new stadiums come from two primary designs with small extras added like new Yankee stadiums sorry attempt at a frieze. the national league stadiums design is the citi field/ citizens bank park mold with a tall wall in left or right and a straight grandstand that does not go into fair territory, and if they feel like it they'll add a Pepsi porch sorta thing. seen in several ballparks and the huge free standing scoreboard with the small screen. the American league design is like u.s. cellular or new Yankee stadium a structure in center field as the batters eye and the exact same out field layout. all these designs complements of hok sports are unequipped with details that past stadiums possessed an abundance of and they have the always ugly spit upper deck, not to mention the rows of luxury boxes. hopefully when all these new stadiums are replaced in 30 years each team will design their own stadiums looking to their team s past for inspiration the way the Yankees most definitely failed to do when building the "house that greed built".

[CrazyMind2017]

that's a pretty blanket statement.

The electronics required in today's cars are ridiculous. Every car built since 1996 has to be OBD-II compliant. That's not a car. It's a computer with tires.

Give me 4 wheels, 4 doors, and an engine. That's a car.

[Gary Dunaier]

dude
sometimes u gotta accept change and accept new thiongs.

Sometimes you do. And sometimes you don't. And in this case he feels he doesn't.

And that's his right, dude. :thumbsup:

[CrazyMind2017]

Sometimes you do. And sometimes you don't. And in this case he feels he doesn't.

And that's his right, dude. :thumbsup:

Thanks Gary! I often have difficulty explaining the obvious, because no words should be required.

[yankees650B]

i don't think I've ever seen this picture before. are those trolleys? probably from the 1940's

[elmer]

An event to 'Save Gate 2

[baseballman1243]

The electronics required in today's cars are ridiculous. Every car built since 1996 has to be OBD-II compliant. That's not a car. It's a computer with tires.

Give me 4 wheels, 4 doors, and an engine. That's a car.

and give you a mechanic because that's what you'll need.

[baseballman1243]

An event to 'Save Gate 2

I'm down. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[CrazyMind2017]

and give you a mechanic because that's what you'll need.

Unless you service the car yourself, it doesn't matter. When was the last time your check engine light stayed on for no reason?

I've experienced it from both sides as someone with no formal training and knows a little about cars but not enough to make any major repairs on my own. It's much easier to maintain an older old car than a newer old car. If you're the type of person who trades in your car every 3 years, then it doesn't really matter either way.

[jimmyjimjimz]

i don't think I've ever seen this picture before. are those trolleys? probably from the 1940's

what's trolleys?

[CrazyMind2017]

what's trolleys?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/CF5/DM%20Yankee%20Stadium/TROLLEY.jpg

[Lpeters199]

From this site:

http://www.sportsgalleryweb.com/

[SparkyL]

Does every thread about Yankee Stadium have to turn into a OYS vs. RYS vs. NYS debate? Mods - please help keep things somewhat in focus.

[mets16]

what's trolleys?

Your last few posts have been so juvenile, if you know what that even means. And just when you started gaining some respectability. Anyway son, trolleys are what grandmommies and grandpoppies used to get around with.

[Swoboda4]

From this site:

http://www.sportsgalleryweb.com/


Hold on thar, Babalooey.

That foul pole is ORANGE. And that sure as hell ain't Shea Stadium. I was laboring under the assumption that Big Shea (and now Shea Jr.) were/are the only stadia to sport orange foul poles. That isn't OYS?

[Lpeters199]

Hold on thar, Babalooey.

That foul pole is ORANGE. And that sure as hell ain't Shea Stadium. I was laboring under the assumption that Big Shea (and now Shea Jr.) were/are the only stadia to sport orange foul poles. That isn't OYS?


Babalooey?? I need some help from you experts in this thread. OYS or not OYS?

[Lpeters199]

Does anyone know what this event was?

[Anubis2051]

Hold on thar, Babalooey.

That foul pole is ORANGE. And that sure as hell ain't Shea Stadium. I was laboring under the assumption that Big Shea (and now Shea Jr.) were/are the only stadia to sport orange foul poles. That isn't OYS?

It's red. The YS foul poles were painted red from the late 60's-until the renovation. You can see it a little bit here:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/RichardLillard1/Platform2.jpg

Does anyone know what this event was?

Looks like a normal ball game to me. What makes you think it's an event?

[Swoboda4]

Babalooey?? I need some help from you experts in this thread. OYS or not OYS?

"Hold on thar, Babalooey" is what Quick Draw McGraw used to say to his sidekick. He was a Hanna Barbera cartoon horse/lawman from back in the 60's. Babalooey was his trusty little donkey pal. Babalooey was evidently Mexican, and called Quick Draw "Queeks Draw", and said things like "I don' theenk so".

No offense. Nobody gets it.

[Lpeters199]

It's red. The YS foul poles were painted red from the late 60's-until the renovation.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28712908@N07/3442468963/





Looks like a normal ball game to me. What makes you think it's an event?

People are seated on the warning track, plus the second deck has signs on the facing which have the names of different countries. I can make out Lebanon and Sweden.

[Swoboda4]

It's red. The YS foul poles were painted red from the late 60's-until the renovation. You can see it a little bit here:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/RichardLillard1/Platform2.jpg



Looks like a normal ball game to me. What makes you think it's an event?


Good call! Never knew that. I love this site. It is a bit "orangey-red" in that Vida Blue shot, tho'.

Love that shot of the trains, too.

[Lpeters199]

Photoscream on Flickr has great Yankee Stadium pics:

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=yankee%20stadium&w=67827566%40N00

[brooklyndodger14]

Does anyone know what this event was?

http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=71158&stc=1&d=1244429282

It would be safe to assume that it is some non-sports event (Jehovah's Witnesses or maybe Billy Graham). There is even some kind of ornamental decoration on the entire visible upper deck facing.

Dennis
BrooklynDodger14

[Lpeters199]

The 1962 Gotham Bowl was played before only 6,166 fans in Yankee Stadium.

http://www.mmbolding.com/bowls/Gotham_1962.htm

[Shadly]

Does anyone have a post number and thread location for the superimposed cross sections of old yankee stadium and renovated yankee stadium? have to settle an argument and can't find it.

[CrazyMind2017]

http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=58009&page=2
post 36

http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=58009&page=21
post 520

http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=58009&page=22
post 542

http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=58009&page=24
post 600

[Lpeters199]

Old Yankee Stadium pic from this site:

http://www.bridgeandtunnelclub.com/bigmap/bronx/yankeestadium/oldyankeestadium/index.htm

[Yankees73]

Does anyone know what this event was? Jehova Witnesses

[Lpeters199]

From this blog:

http://www.pmsimon.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-search.cgi?IncludeBlogs=1&search=Baseball

[YankeesFan]

The 1962 Gotham Bowl was played before only 6,166 fans in Yankee Stadium.

http://www.mmbolding.com/bowls/Gotham_1962.htm

The pics are just awesome!!! Does this game exist on film?

[Lpeters199]

The pics are just awesome!!! Does this game exist on film?

It doesn't look promising for a full broadcast, but this site has some color highlights on its list of videos.

http://www.huskertapes.com/nebraskavideoarchive.htm

[Lpeters199]

Just beautiful.

http://www.dailynews.com/ci_11054304

[Gary Dunaier]

As for those silver doors, they led out to the far end of the sidewalk cafe, all the way down by the ticket windows. I don't recall seeing them there from the outside, but I know the elevator from which you took the picture was in section 15. The ticket office had an interior entry on field level in section 11, but the entire length of it was from about section 7 to 11 or 13. The sidewalk cafe was from approximately 15 to 23.

Would those doors be under the Yankee logo in this picture?

http://imgsrv.wcbs880.com/image/DbLiteGraphic/200906/4524618.jpg?1244643881

[CrazyMind2017]

Would those doors be under the Yankee logo in this picture?

http://imgsrv.wcbs880.com/image/DbLiteGraphic/200906/4524618.jpg?1244643881

No, definitely not. That extra area was just added in the last couple years to house automatic kiosks for TicketMaster will call orders. Instead of people actually walking up to a person in the box office and showing the credit card used to pick up their tickets (what a novel idea!!!) they would allow people to print their tickets automatically from a computer.

Look a few feet down towards right field, maybe you'll find something there.

[mitch300]

People are seated on the warning track, plus the second deck has signs on the facing which have the names of different countries. I can make out Lebanon and Sweden.
It looks like Bat day. When they ask all the kids to raise thier bats.

[Lpeters199]

It looks like Bat day. When they ask all the kids to raise thier bats.

That message refers to the picture on post #2675, not the bat day picture.

[NYFan1stYankFan2nd]

From this blog:

http://www.pmsimon.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-search.cgi?IncludeBlogs=1&search=Baseball


I wonder if the Giants could move into OYS, what with the outfield fences all but gone. ;) Roll back Field level to 1937 dimensions, and everything's skippy! The NY Giants will really be the NIEEW YAAAWWHHK Giants again!!

[Lpeters199]

A search for "Yankee Stadium" will turn up some nice video clips--most are silent.

http://www.efootage.com/

[Lpeters199]

The stadium made a terrific background for football shots.

[YankeesFan]

Mike McCann's blog (http://mikemccann.blogspot.com/) has more Yankee Stadium pics, this time from 8/9/72.

50986

50987

50988

50989

Question regarding the second photo. It looks like after the fourth portal from the left in the left field bleachers, there appears to be a fence from front to back of the bleacher seating. Is that correct?

[Lpeters199]

Some or all of these might be reposts, but they're still worth a look.

[Milwaukee County Stadium]

Here of some photos of Pre Renovated Yankee Stadium from life

[Lpeters199]

From New York Public Library site: http://www.nypl.org/

[nymdan]

Those are great. What year are they from?

[Lpeters199]

Those are great. What year are they from?

According to the library site, the first picture is from 1940, the second from 1941, and the third from 1934.

[Lpeters199]

From the New York Public Library Digital Collection: 1941, 1941, 1934, 1937, and 1924

[Lpeters199]

From NYPL site: 1928 and 1937

[Lpeters199]

From New York Public Library site: 1936, 1936, 1937, 1936, and 1936.

[RationalNYYfan]

from wirednewyork.com forum

1922

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1326/1110482605_03deadaeb7_o.jpg

1950s

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1328/1271380510_fa5f3e432b_o.jpg

1957 - Wow was that frieze impressive!

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1278/1197978671_ba4c8ad9d3_o.jpg

1960s

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1153/1121400988_57c1bfe84e_o.jpg

1961 What year was the YANKEE STADIUM lettering added? The Longines clock? Were they added together?

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1377/1197978959_0585697181_o.jpg

1966

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1064/1142302823_cafb7c0f6e_o.jpg

1973 the last game at OYS, fans sure wasted no time collecting some souvenirs eh?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3082/2703153178_ffd3748738_b.jpg

[jerseyyankeefan]

Some amazing stuff.

[Lpeters199]

From https://www.mearsonline.com/forsale/

[Lpeters199]

From Getty Footage: a screen capture of tennis at Yankee Stadium.

[NYFan1stYankFan2nd]

From https://www.mearsonline.com/forsale/

Is that the Jolt about to round second in that photo? Somethin very distinct about him.

[Lpeters199]

Is that the Jolt about to round second in that photo? Somethin very distinct about him.

It was some obscure Italian guy from San Francisco--never amounted to much.

[NYFan1stYankFan2nd]

It was some obscure Italian guy from San Francisco--never amounted to much.

That answers my question. :rofl: Wry answer btw! Long live Jolt'n Joe!!

For the most intimidating field of his era, it certainly had the shortest foul lines(relative to left & center).

[mets16]

That answers my question. :rofl: Wry answer btw! Long live Jolt'n Joe!!

For the most intimidating field of his era, it certainly had the shortest foul lines(relative to left & center).

Some things never change.

[Bobby_Ayala]

I like Andrew Clem's baseball site, in fact I have it bookmarked, however that is the only place, online or print where the 258 ft foul lines are mentioned as 1923 dimensions. I've always read 281 or just under 281 down the LF line, and 295 or just under 295 down the RF line.

[RichardLillard1]

The dimensions down each of the foul lines were 258 feet. It was actually 257.526' down each line, but my guess is they rounded up. This is according to the original Osborne Engineering plan for the foul lines, as well as several newspaper accounts of the day.

So yes, Andrew Clem's website is correct, or as you say, the gospel. His research is actually done with the help of Bruce Orser, a tape-measure home run researcher. Both of these people also (if I'm not mistaken) friends with Bill Jenkinson, who is probably the most knowledgeable person about field dimensions and home runs out there today.

For the 1924 season, the plate was moved forward about ten feet and possibly turned to the right a slight amount. There are only a few news articles for the rotation of the plate, but it's very obvious the plate was at the very least moved forward. Whatever the result, this made the dimensions what we are familiar with today, 295 down the right field line and 301 down the left.

It is important to note hoever that the 295 figure was only until the grandstand extension and concrete bleachers were put in place in 1937, after that time, the distance increased to 296, but remained the same down the left line.

Hope this helps.


Richard


EDIT: I would also like to point out that I have no idea where this 281 figure for the left field foul line came from, but I have never seen any evidence to support it. In fact, wikipedia even lists it as 285 feet in 1923.

[jnakamura]

I like Andrew Clem's baseball site, in fact I have it bookmarked, however that is the only place, online or print where the 258 ft foul lines are mentioned as 1923 dimensions.

That's not true. I've seen two period articles that back up the 258 ft foul lines in 1923. Haven't you heard of the infamous "bloody angle"?

[tugger]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3082/2703153178_ffd3748738_b.jpg

I was among the 9,502 souls at the game the day before. 32,238 were at the final game, so it was a bit of an event.

[Lpeters199]

The Stadium oozed character--and sportswriters. From: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123906424665995337.html

[marlins739]

I was among the 9,502 souls at the game the day before. 32,238 were at the final game, so it was a bit of an event.

My mom was at the last game at the old stadium and has a wooden slat from a seat that the people behind her ripped up. They were in the first base side upper deck.

[stuarthouse]

The dimensions down each of the foul lines were 258 feet. It was actually 257.526' down each line, but my guess is they rounded up. This is according to the original Osborne Engineering plan for the foul lines, as well as several newspaper accounts of the day.

So yes, Andrew Clem's website is correct, or as you say, the gospel. His research is actually done with the help of Bruce Orser, a tape-measure home run researcher. Both of these people also (if I'm not mistaken) friends with Bill Jenkinson, who is probably the most knowledgeable person about field dimensions and home runs out there today.

For the 1924 season, the plate was moved forward about ten feet and possibly turned to the right a slight amount. There are only a few news articles for the rotation of the plate, but it's very obvious the plate was at the very least moved forward. Whatever the result, this made the dimensions what we are familiar with today, 295 down the right field line and 301 down the left.

It is important to note hoever that the 295 figure was only until the grandstand extension and concrete bleachers were put in place in 1937, after that time, the distance increased to 296, but remained the same down the left line.

Hope this helps.


Richard


EDIT: I would also like to point out that I have no idea where this 281 figure for the left field foul line came from, but I have never seen any evidence to support it. In fact, wikipedia even lists it as 285 feet in 1923.

It would not be the first time that wikipedia was wrong. The 1923 dimensions are very deceptive, but both were about 258' Your 258' targets however, were the size of a slice of pizza, especially down right field where the grandstand seats projected slightly into fair territory at that distance. A very odd arrangement. In left field the foul line met the left field grandstand seats at a highly acute angle, making short homers freakish. Moving the plate toward center in 1924 corrected the right field problem, but the left field, while ameliorated, seemed to stay that way until the modern renovation.

[Bobby_Ayala]

The dimensions down each of the foul lines were 258 feet. It was actually 257.526' down each line, but my guess is they rounded up. This is according to the original Osborne Engineering plan for the foul lines, as well as several newspaper accounts of the day.

So yes, Andrew Clem's website is correct, or as you say, the gospel. His research is actually done with the help of Bruce Orser, a tape-measure home run researcher. Both of these people also (if I'm not mistaken) friends with Bill Jenkinson, who is probably the most knowledgeable person about field dimensions and home runs out there today.

For the 1924 season, the plate was moved forward about ten feet and possibly turned to the right a slight amount. There are only a few news articles for the rotation of the plate, but it's very obvious the plate was at the very least moved forward. Whatever the result, this made the dimensions what we are familiar with today, 295 down the right field line and 301 down the left.

It is important to note hoever that the 295 figure was only until the grandstand extension and concrete bleachers were put in place in 1937, after that time, the distance increased to 296, but remained the same down the left line.

Hope this helps.


Richard


EDIT: I would also like to point out that I have no idea where this 281 figure for the left field foul line came from, but I have never seen any evidence to support it. In fact, wikipedia even lists it as 285 feet in 1923.Thanks for the clarification.

I've seen two period articles that back up the 258 ft foul lines in 1923. Haven't you heard of the infamous "bloody angle"?Great. Yes, I have heard of the "bloody angle", but that doesn't necessarily have to pertain to dimensions.

[Bronxbomberjet]

From the New York Public Library Digital Collection: 1941, 1941, 1934, 1937, and 1924

Wow! These are great shots!!!
Thanks for sharing them..

[Lpeters199]

Mel Allen broadcasting at the stadium:

[Lpeters199]

From: http://bootleggersports.com/archives/tag/new-york-yankees

[stadiumbuilder]

Nice pics Larry. Over the years, there was a lot of press area added to the mezzanine front as football's popularity increased. That white structure with the roof must have been a broadcast booth, but the roof was removed before the giants were done playing there, so I guess they called the game out in the elements. And those two extras perches from the upper deck facing didn't last long and were gone well before the '73 season.

[Lpeters199]

From NYPL site--sorry if any are reposts.
#1 Date unknown.
#2 1936?
#3 1936?
#4 1927

[Lpeters199]

From NYPL site:

#1 1924
#2 1926
#3 1926
#4 1935
#5 1941

[stadiumbuilder]

I think that date unknown photo is the 1928 world series.

[Gary Dunaier]

From NYPL site:

#1 1924
#2 1926
#3 1926
#4 1935
#5 1941

Photos 2, 3, and 4 are misdated.

Photos 2 and 3 show the Bronx County Courthouse (BCC) in the background, but the BCC was built in 1933 - seven years after the date attributed to these photos.

Conversely, if photo 4 was in fact taken in 1935 the BCC should be in the background.

[Lpeters199]

Photos 2, 3, and 4 are misdated.

Photos 2 and 3 show the Bronx County Courthouse (BCC) in the background, but the BCC was built in 1933 - seven years after the date attributed to these photos.

Conversely, if photo 4 was in fact taken in 1935 the BCC should be in the background.


Those aren't my dates, Gary. I just posted the dates given on the NYPL site.

[Paul W]

a few pix of my dad (foreground) and red & mel in the open air press box...

take a lok at the chairs they were using, they look like the wooden chairs that were used in the box seat areas before the 1947 renovation...

[cgcoyne2]

I've been looking and I can't find the poster that brought the movie from 1959, "FBI Story" to our attention. I'm sorry. I posted it to Youtube.com today. I rented the movie from blockbuster and cut out the 6 minute video section that shows Yankee Stadium from 1959.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgM_wbcLnEE.

[brooklyndodger14]

From NYPL site--sorry if any are reposts.
#1 Date unknown.
#2 1936?
#3 1936?
#4 1927

What's interesting here, Larry (and thank you for your research, even if some might be reposted), is the appearance now of "page lines" on some of the images I know didn't have when I saved some from last year.

The image of Gate 4 with the tennis courts in the foreground is one that comes to mind for example.

A new type of image watermark, perhaps?


Dennis
BrooklynDodger14

[ChineseDemocracy]

I've been looking and I can't find the poster that brought the movie from 1959, "FBI Story" to our attention. I'm sorry. I posted it to Youtube.com today. I rented the movie from blockbuster and cut out the 6 minute video section that shows Yankee Stadium from 1959.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgM_wbcLnEE.

Fantastic work. That was the best 6 minutes and 18 seconds of my life.

[Lpeters199]

What's interesting here, Larry (and thank you for your research, even if some might be reposted), is the appearance now of "page lines" on some of the images I know didn't have when I saved some from last year.

The image of Gate 4 with the tennis courts in the foreground is one that comes to mind for example.

A new type of image watermark, perhaps?


Dennis
BrooklynDodger14

Dennis,

I tried to enlarge the pictures in sections, then piece them together to make wide angles that zoomed in on what I felt were the most interesting parts. The NYPL photos are mostly high enough quality that they can be enlaraged without losing too much clarity. The before and after shots are below:

Larry

[RationalNYYfan]

I've been looking and I can't find the poster that brought the movie from 1959, "FBI Story" to our attention. I'm sorry. I posted it to Youtube.com today. I rented the movie from blockbuster and cut out the 6 minute video section that shows Yankee Stadium from 1959.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgM_wbcLnEE.

What a neat video :thumbsup:

[YankeeStadium1923]

Dennis,

I tried to enlarge the pictures in sections, then piece them together to make wide angles that zoomed in on what I felt were the most interesting parts. The NYPL photos are mostly high enough quality that they can be enlaraged without losing too much clarity. The before and after shots are below:

Larry
I edited this photo and converted to grayscale.....

[bandit12]

From NYPL site--sorry if any are reposts.
#1 Date unknown.
#2 1936?
#3 1936?
#4 1927

http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=73041&stc=1&d=1247234799

I can tell you that the goalpost were moved the to front of the endzone in 1933 and then back to the current location (back) in 1974. So that picture has to be before 1933.

[frank72]

I've been looking and I can't find the poster that brought the movie from 1959, "FBI Story" to our attention. I'm sorry. I posted it to Youtube.com today. I rented the movie from blockbuster and cut out the 6 minute video section that shows Yankee Stadium from 1959.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgM_wbcLnEE.

Wow. great stuff - thankyou.

[The House That Ruth Built]

I've been looking and I can't find the poster that brought the movie from 1959, "FBI Story" to our attention. I'm sorry. I posted it to Youtube.com today. I rented the movie from blockbuster and cut out the 6 minute video section that shows Yankee Stadium from 1959.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgM_wbcLnEE.

This is awsome! Thanks so much!

[Mario Mendoza...HOF Lock]

http://www.baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=71158&stc=1&d=1244429282
Does anyone know what this event was?

It's tough to tell exactly, but judging by the age and attire of many of those in the crowd, I think it was a Black Sabbath concert. They WERE pretty big in Sweden & Lebanon, BTW :cool:

[Lpeters199]

This 1952 newsreel has some film of a soccer game at Yankee Stadium before a crowd of 25,000:

http://www.archive.org/details/1952-06-16_Atom_Sub

[DrBear]

I can tell you that the goalpost were moved the to front of the endzone in 1933 and then back to the current location (back) in 1974. So that picture has to be before 1933.
Not necessarily; it could be a college game.

[bandit12]

Not necessarily; it could be a college game.

True...notice the hash marks are wider like in the college game today. The NFL uses the hash marks lined up with each goal post end. Did they ever use the wider hash marks? That might answer the question.

[Twenty Seven]

I edited this photo and converted to grayscale.....

Now that's a stadium. Wow. It looked amazing.

[monkeypants]

True...notice the hash marks are wider like in the college game today. The NFL uses the hash marks lined up with each goal post end. Did they ever use the wider hash marks? That might answer the question.

Yes. The NFL went to narrower hash marks in the early 1970s to increase offense. I am pretty certain that the first NFL hash marks were even wider than the current college hash marks (indeed, these were narrowed several years ago).

[cgcoyne2]

Hey guys,

For you "Older" Yankee fans that saw the video I posted in post #2733 I have a few observations and questions.

In the movie the agent and the guy he's following enter the stadium at gate 6,7 (rightfield). During the movie they're watching the game in section 6 of the mezzanine, which is behind homeplate, but the game action actually happens from a view closer to third base. The picture I attatched shows this. It's really no big deal.

Ok, now for the questions. Did you guys notice how narrow the concourse above the seating area is? The agent went over to the phone and you can clearly see that he gets there within a few steps. The outer wall is clearly there because you can see the louvered windows behind him while he's on the phone. Another question is about the street level. When both the agent and the guy he's following go downstairs did you happen to notice the things hanging from the ceiling to the right of the souvenir stand and to the left of the concession stand. They sort of look like pictures of the Hall of Fame plaques. Does anyone know what they were? Also did you notice the big pictures of the ballplayers right inside the Gate 6,7 entrance? The pictures have a plate or something below them with the players name on it. It also looks like a little blurb of info given for each player. One other thing. You'll notice in the clip that the stadium seat looks to be blue, not the green we've been led to believe was in the stadium before the 1967-68 refurbishment. It may be the coloring, I don't know.

Does anyone have any info about this stuff? I never went to the original stadium and always wish I did.

[Mattingly85MVP]

I've been looking and I can't find the poster that brought the movie from 1959, "FBI Story" to our attention. I'm sorry. I posted it to Youtube.com today. I rented the movie from blockbuster and cut out the 6 minute video section that shows Yankee Stadium from 1959.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgM_wbcLnEE.

great great footage, just wish they had filmed more of the stadium...wonder if that film crew shot other interiors/exteriors that were never used

[Lpeters199]

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