View Full Version : Can they repeat?
Silver Blaze
12-10-2007, 08:50 PM
Colorado was a great story this year; one of the best in a while, but can they do it again? I'd say the odds are against it.
The Rockies is a good team with some good Players and repeating maybe possable but taking a step back is possable also. So I would have to agree that is likely the more possable to take a step back.
So Can they repeat? well, I guess your guess is as good as mine.
Knick9
12-10-2007, 10:41 PM
No.
The Rockies have already lost a couple of key guys to their run (Matsui, Hawkins) and I get this feeling they're going south in 2008. They haven't done anything this offseason, so they might be taking a play out of Billy Beane's playbook or something. You're not going to replace Matsui's production and finding a good bullpen arm will be hard.
Plus, every time I believe an improving team keeps it up, they don't and go downhill. Sorry. :o
No.
The Rockies have already lost a couple of key guys to their run (Matsui, Hawkins) and I get this feeling they're going south in 2008. They haven't done anything this offseason, so they might be taking a play out of Billy Beane's playbook or something. You're not going to replace Matsui's production and finding a good bullpen arm will be hard.
Plus, every time I believe an improving team keeps it up, they don't and go downhill. Sorry. :o
Yeah, But they still have time to get a few thing done. They are after Tadahito Iguchi. He would make a good replacement for Matsui and it isn't a big deal that they haven't done anything yet for it takes some time to get things done for teams sometimes.
Old Sweater
12-10-2007, 11:41 PM
Not if the Monforts don't open up their wallet some. The Rockies only saved 2.5mil by letting go of Jamey Carroll and letting Hawkins slip thru their fingers. Why the Rockies are going after Iguchi instead of giving Ian Stewart, Jayson Nix, Jeff Baker or Omar Quintanilla a shot at 2nd and using the money to retain Hawkins and Carroll, has a lot of the Rockies fans scratching their heads. Iguchi's stats just aren't that impressive and Carroll had better stats in 2006.
True You may be right there. There is so much I don't know about the Rockies and alot of other Major League teams and I'll admit that may or may not be a problem.
But I don't know you eather and if you would admit the Rockies might have some good players that might get better and that although they lost a few players that they might be able to make up for it within without having to replaces them.
Just like I don't know if that is even a possabilty. And you know you say Iguchi's stats just aren't that impressive. well, You know Matsui stats wasn't that impressive before joining the Rockies. So is there really a diference there?
Old Sweater
12-11-2007, 09:10 PM
You know Matsui stats wasn't that impressive before joining the Rockies. So is there really a diference there?
Yeah, speed. You never lose speed except to age. I still think the Iguchi talk is just a front office smoke screen for the fans. I'd rather the Rockies have an in house player this year at 2nd instead of picking up Iguchi.
Charger567
12-11-2007, 09:34 PM
How often do they make big transactions anyway? They had 15 home grown players on this team, meaning most of their team is built through their farm (which is in top shape.) I say they repeat it, if not in 2008, then with at least one more playoff run by 2010.
Old Sweater
12-14-2007, 11:55 PM
How often do they make big transactions anyway? They had 15 home grown players on this team, meaning most of their team is built through their farm (which is in top shape.) I say they repeat it, if not in 2008, then with at least one more playoff run by 2010.
Not often at all anymore. The only big names the Rockies have got since they got burnt in the Hampton and Neagle signings is Preston Wilson and Jeremy Burnitz and if I remember right we got Preston in the 3 team trade when the Rockies unloaded Hampton. As long as the Monforts own the Rockies I don't believe that the Rockies will ever be a part of any big transaction unless they are trading away are young stars like Holliday and further down the road, Tulowitzki.
Imgran
12-16-2007, 05:53 AM
I tell ya what, whether they repeat or not, the Rockies now have the story that made their franchise. Like Gonzalez' walk-off single in Game 7, like Boston's Impossible Dream, like the Shot Heard Round The World, Jackie Robinson, and "Touch 'em all, Joe!",the franchise now has an identity that will endure for a good long time as the club that made the single greatest comeback to make the playoffs in the wild card era. That's worth a lot, whether it's easy to recognize its value or not.
Zito75
12-18-2007, 11:58 AM
Hawkins didn't contribute much last year, and losing both Matsui and Carroll will hurt the infield depth. There are other negatives as well, such as: Helton getting older, lack of healthy starting pitching and questionable middle relievers. I still picked the Rocks to win the NL West last year and people called me nuts... But for '08, I think a Wild Card spot might again be within reach just because the offense can score runs in bunches.
I'll be sure to give you all first hand reports from Spring Training starting in about 2 months. =)
batitup
12-19-2007, 08:02 AM
I think that they will not win the world series now because they lost good players in the offseason. If they are lucky they can have a repeat of what happen last year.
Old Sweater
12-19-2007, 01:06 PM
Hawkins didn't contribute much last year, and losing both Matsui and Carroll will hurt the infield depth. There are other negatives as well, such as: Helton getting older, lack of healthy starting pitching and questionable middle relievers. I still picked the Rocks to win the NL West last year and people called me nuts... But for '08, I think a Wild Card spot might again be within reach just because the offense can score runs in bunches.
I'll be sure to give you all first hand reports from Spring Training starting in about 2 months. =)
HR Hawkins biggest contribution to the club was him working with the youngsters. The Monforts getting rid of Jamey Carroll is the biggest boner they have pulled so far since they wasn't even going to offer a ballpark figure to keep Kaz.
If Ian Stewart is the starting 2nd baseman coming out of ST, he will become the biggest 2nd baseman in the league passing Kent.
Zito75
12-19-2007, 08:10 PM
HR Hawkins biggest contribution to the club was him working with the youngsters. The Monforts getting rid of Jamey Carroll is the biggest boner they have pulled so far since they wasn't even going to offer a ballpark figure to keep Kaz.
If Ian Stewart is the starting 2nd baseman coming out of ST, he will become the biggest 2nd baseman in the league passing Kent.
I don't see Ian Stewart taking over at 2B. He's made to play 3B or LF. I can see him getting a shot at 1B once Helton is gone- except he'll be battling big Joe Koshanksy. I also read today that the Rocks might sign Marcus Giles. So if that happens, look for another trade or 2 to go down. But yeah, losing Carroll will hurt- the kid has heart if nothing else.
Old Sweater
12-21-2007, 07:36 AM
Man O Man, I hope the Rockies don't sign Marcus. The Rockies have just as good in house D with Quintanilla and Nix.
I agree with you about Stewart being to big to play 2nd. Kent gives up to much D at 2nd and he hits a ton.
omnivore
01-01-2008, 08:06 PM
They need a lot to make it happen. I don't see it happening, with the way Arizona reloaded, San Diego is still good and the Dodgers don't mind spending to at least give the veneer of contending. It's possible, but they need more luck than they had this year. I don't see it happening, though.
Knick9
01-15-2008, 04:59 PM
Perhaps the Rockies are the team that has come down with the latest case of "one-year wonder-itis." :crazy
Old Sweater
01-15-2008, 10:12 PM
Perhaps the Rockies are the team that has come down with the latest case of "one-year wonder-itis." :crazy
Easy to do with the pitching that is in the NL West.
Zito75
01-17-2008, 03:08 PM
Perhaps the Rockies are the team that has come down with the latest case of "one-year wonder-itis." :crazy
No way, not with that offense. Who needs pitching with all those 100-RBI guys.
Old Sweater
01-17-2008, 08:32 PM
No way, not with that offense. Who needs pitching with all those 100-RBI guys.
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Altitude
01-22-2008, 03:17 AM
It will be hard to repeat, since every team in the division got better. Plus we have a handicap called the Monforts.