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theBROWgranddaughter
12-04-2007, 11:25 PM
Hello all..

I just came across this site, and I wanted to introduce myself. My Grandfather was Charlie Digiovanna - a.k.a "The Brow". Although I never met him, he's been a main focal in my family all my life. My Grandma Shirley recently passed away in Aug. 2005, and with her passing, my mother (Rita) and I have gathered all the memorabila that has been collected for years... pictures, newspaper articles, etc. I would like to try to scan some of these items to share in the near future.

Would SO welcome any information any of you would like to share about him.. it could be things I haven't heard yet.

Anyway - hope to hear from ya'll sometime! Thanks! Angela

AutographCollector
12-04-2007, 11:56 PM
Here's a pic of him greeting Duke Snider after Duke crushed a homer:
P.S.
He's to the left of Duke Snider (wearing jersey #4).

AutographCollector
12-04-2007, 11:58 PM
Here he is holding the 19 & the 55 signs:

AutographCollector
12-05-2007, 12:02 AM
Front view:

AutographCollector
12-05-2007, 12:07 AM
And lastly... as quoted from psacard.com (this is right up MY alley!!) ;)

Perhaps the most famous big league batboy of all time was Brooklyn Dodger Charlie “The Brow” DiGiovanna (b.1930). Charlie was certainly the envy of every teenager growing up in Brooklyn. He was the home team batboy that you’ve undoubtedly seen sitting on the field in all of those 1950’s team Dodger photos. His dark complexion and “uni-brow” are identifying traits that may remind you of his figure.

He came into the organization as a favor to his Uncle Pete, a Brooklyn politician in the early 1940s. As a youngster, he started working as a clubhouse boy, turnstile checker, aide in the dressing room and then rose to the rank of visiting team batboy. In 1952, he moved over to the home team dugout vacated by veteran batboy Stan Strull. Later, he actually relocated with the club to Chavez Ravine in Los Angeles were O’Malley bought a house for him, his wife and three kids. He prematurely died of a heart attack at the age of 30 in 1961.

“Chain-smoking Charlie” left a legacy to our hobby as a result of his daily mundane chores by accommodating each ballplayer’s laziness. The laborious task of signing hundreds of team baseballs was one of the duties that “The Brow” accepted and mastered. He came under a lot of heat from the Dodger’s front office to provide a required six dozen signed baseballs weekly. Unlike the typical adolescent batboys of his era, Charlie was mature and he possessed a talent in handwriting which would closely mimic the styles of his teammates. Duke Snider once revealed that Charlie could sign his name better than he could.

DiGiovanna was a creature of habit like most of us. In an effort to avoid duplication, Charlie would sign the players names in sequence to avoid possible duplication. On most of the National League balls that he penned, check under the circular Spalding logo and you will generally find the signatures of Jackie Robinson, Roy Campanella, and Carl Erskine in that order. Flamboyant trademark letters, showing strong individual characteristics, using a name-by-name comparison, are evident in the k’s, d’s, e’s, and h’s.

DiGiovanna had an upright, rounded style whose looping letters often tilted obtusely. Often when a new player joined the team, DiGiovanna would practically print his name with subtle breaks between the letters. Examples of this are found in the signatures of Dixie Howell, Rocky Bridges, Roger Craig, and Ed Roebuck.

Now old, Charlie didn’t get his paws on every ball that left the clubhouse, but he still signed a large percentage nevertheless. At times, he would even “fill in the blanks” of partially signed balls that a portion of the players had already obliged themselves. Don’t think Charlie was an anomaly in the autograph world. This non-malicious, forgery practice occurred in the 1920s and remained prevalent into the 1980s. I’ve spoken to numerous batboys that have admitted to secretly penning the names on a regular basis.

Longtime New York Yankee clubhouse attendant Pete Sheehy dutifully replicated the signatures of Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, Mantle, etc. over his 50 years affiliation with the club. Teams outside the New York area were not immune to this practice either. I often examine team signed baseballs from Boston, Philadelphia, Detroit, and Pittsburgh that have suffered the same fate.

The “clubhouse” or “ghost signed” balls are not completely worthless. As vintage pieces of memorabilia, I regularly notice that they are still selling in auctions for hundreds of dollars despite being recognized as invalid autographs. Despite many of these Brooklyn baseballs being sprinkled around the hobby, the actual autograph of Charlie DiGiovanna is rare in itself. The pictured letter is the only known example in the collecting hobby world.

One must keep in mind that these balls were signed to accommodate mostly fans, not collectors. Autograph collecting was not as popular or sophisticated and rarely was monetary value attributed to them prior to the 1970s. The recipient of one of these balls never questioned the legitimacy. Batboys like Charlie “The Brow” DiGiovanna were quietly performing their assigned duties.

DODGER DEB
12-05-2007, 06:18 AM
Hello all..

I just came across this site, and I wanted to introduce myself. My Grandfather was Charlie Digiovanna - a.k.a "The Brow". Although I never met him, he's been a main focal in my family all my life. My Grandma Shirley recently passed away in Aug. 2005, and with her passing, my mother (Rita) and I have gathered all the memorabila that has been collected for years... pictures, newspaper articles, etc. I would like to try to scan some of these items to share in the near future.

Would SO welcome any information any of you would like to share about him.. it could be things I haven't heard yet.

Anyway - hope to hear from ya'll sometime! Thanks! Angela

Welcome, Angela, to OUR Forum. It is indeed a pleasure to hear from another family member of OUR DODGERS.

My sister DEBS and I were cheerleaders for OUR DODGERS at OUR Ebbets Field, and knew your Grandfather quite well. Since WE literally lived at OUR Ebbets Field everyday, WE always saw him and chatted with him. Charlie was a very nice and funny guy, one who OUR Players simpled loved and considered one of them. He was "Senator" Griffin's assistant in the clubhouse, in addition to being OUR "batboy".

WE were so sad when he passed so young. WE went to his wake and funeral.

Many of OUR members and I have discussed you Grandfather in the past. You should check OUR archives and read some of the threads where he was included.

In the meantime, WE have several members, like myself, who would remember him, and I am sure can share more stories about him.

If you have any stories you would like to share with US, WE would really enjoy hearing him.

c.

penncentralpete
12-05-2007, 07:15 AM
as the visitors' batboy at Ebbets Field......

LeoD
12-05-2007, 07:57 AM
And lastly... as quoted from psacard.com (this is right up MY alley!!) ;)

Charlie was born in 1930, not 1920.

LeoD
12-05-2007, 07:59 AM
Charlie, Clem Labine

LeoD
12-05-2007, 08:41 AM
Charlie leading the boys.

AutographCollector
12-05-2007, 09:17 AM
Charlie was born in 1930, not 1920.
I didn't write the article, I just quoted it.

LeoD
12-05-2007, 10:42 AM
I didn't write the article, I just quoted it.

Just correcting the article, not you.

D6+
12-05-2007, 10:55 AM
Angela, wecome to the Brooklyn Dodgers Forum.


On page # 201 of the following link, you will find a picture of your Grandfather greeting Gil Hodges, following a HR in Game # 4 of the 1955 World Series:


http://books.google.com/books?id=y2hzqiCMI08C&pg=PA201&lpg=PA201&dq=%22charlie+digiovanna%22&source=web&ots=GWKNFbjoBw&sig=hB3o4cXi9bLpmpWcGw11aGsgon8#PPA201,M1

Bklyn Boy since 1936
12-11-2007, 10:34 PM
Hello all..

I just came across this site, and I wanted to introduce myself. My Grandfather was Charlie Digiovanna - a.k.a "The Brow". Although I never met him, he's been a main focal in my family all my life. My Grandma Shirley recently passed away in Aug. 2005, and with her passing, my mother (Rita) and I have gathered all the memorabila that has been collected for years... pictures, newspaper articles, etc. I would like to try to scan some of these items to share in the near future.

Would SO welcome any information any of you would like to share about him.. it could be things I haven't heard yet.

Anyway - hope to hear from ya'll sometime! Thanks! Angela

Hi Angela,

Although I'm sorry to know that your Grandma Shirley has passed away, it was good to hear that you and your Mom are out there and that you have gathered all of his memorabila collected over the years. Many of us look forward to seeing some of those items that you, hopefully, will share with us in the near future.

If nothing else, you should know that your Grandpa was very well-known and much beloved by more people (players, fans and anyone else who ever met him) than you could ever imagine. And for many of us who spent much of our time at Ebbets Field and got to know him real well, he was a good friend.

dodger dynamo
12-12-2007, 08:36 PM
angela, maybe you could shed some light on your grandfathers entire career with the dodgers?, more specifically the latter part. we've heard conflicting stories concerning when he actually stopped being involved with the dodgers. before the move?, after? I've seen a picture of him in an la uniform, yet, in several books they claim he did not make the move west. you should consider some sort of book, because to us your grand father was an important piece of those great brooklyn teams. A unique base ball character. "the brow", "the pen man" and the just plain good guy. happy holiday's, battlin bake, the dodger dynamo

LeoD
12-15-2007, 06:23 PM
Charlie was with the L.A. team in 1958, for sure.

Greg_DiGiovanna
12-28-2007, 07:08 AM
My name is Greg DiGiovanna, Charlie "The Brow" DiGiovanna's eldest son, and if want more accurate data about my dad, click on the below attached link to read my own post about the "The Brow" and a little bit about our family history.

http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?p=1078864#post1078864

P.S. Today, 12/28/07, marks my father's 49th anniversary of his passing on Dec. 28, 1958. He was 28 years old when he died. We did make the move to Calif. with the Dodgers, where Charile continued to work as the Clubhouse Manager (signing 'dem balls) until his untimely death 49 years ago.

I have all of the photos (and more) that are attached to the above postings and I still have his 1955 World Series Ring in my possession.

Greg DiGiovanna, Charlie "The Brow" DiGiovanna's eldest son

AutographCollector
12-28-2007, 08:15 AM
Greg: So do you know the author of this thread; Angela?

Greg_DiGiovanna
12-28-2007, 08:38 PM
Angela is my sister's daughter.
Greg DiGiovanna

brantg716
01-20-2008, 07:41 AM
Hi - I read all of these threads with great interest, because I have inherited a Brooklyn Dodgers baseball that has been authenticated as having some or all of the signatures a creation of Charlie Di Giovanna! It is currently being auctioned on Ebay, and I found out all of this information in doing my research to post the ball. It seems that he was a very enterprising man!

My Parents were huge baseball fans, and attended games and spring training regularly, and this ball and one other from the Cardinals were some of their prized posessions. It has been in a sae deposit box for over 50 years. I'm quite intrigued to learn all of this history about it!:happy:

Greg_DiGiovanna
01-20-2008, 10:00 PM
Hi - I read all of these threads with great interest, because I have inherited a Brooklyn Dodgers baseball that has been authenticated as having some or all of the signatures a creation of Charlie Di Giovanna! It is currently being auctioned on Ebay, and I found out all of this information in doing my research to post the ball. It seems that he was a very enterprising man!

My Parents were huge baseball fans, and attended games and spring training regularly, and this ball and one other from the Cardinals were some of their prized posessions. It has been in a sae deposit box for over 50 years. I'm quite intrigued to learn all of this history about it!:happy:
Hello,
My name is Greg DiGiovanna, I am Charlie's old son and I am very interested in the Autographed baseball you talked about in your reply to my neice Angela. I tried looking for it on eBay and I found several Dodger autographed baseballs I am not sure which one is yours. Would you please get back to me and tell me more about this baseball. Thanks.

Greg DiGiovanna
greg.carol@verizon.net

donzblock
01-21-2008, 07:35 AM
Hello,
My name is Greg DiGiovanna, I am Charlie's old son and I am very interested in the Autographed baseball you talked about in your reply to my neice Angela. I tried looking for it on eBay and I found several Dodger autographed baseballs I am not sure which one is yours. Would you please get back to me and tell me more about this baseball. Thanks.

Greg DiGiovanna
greg.carol@verizon.net
Greg, we all want to know if you have the brow.

LeoD
01-21-2008, 07:54 AM
I want to know, who you people are, if you are who you say, lets see some proof, not rehashed photo's. Todd Anderson said he was the son of Ferrell, and proved it with photo's and documentation. Oh, by the way I'm the illegitimate son of Leo Durocher, and Hilda Chester. The photo's aren't even posted by you relatives, there by me and other member's.

kramer_47
01-21-2008, 10:33 AM
I want to know, who you people are, if you are who you say, lets see some proof, not rehashed photo's. Todd Anderson said he was the son of Ferrell, and proved it with photo's and documentation. Oh, by the way I'm the illegitimate son of Leo Durocher, and Hilda Chester. The photo's aren't even posted by you relatives, there by me and other member's.

Prove it Leo Jr show us the cowbell.

LeoD
01-21-2008, 11:31 AM
Prove it Leo Jr show us the cowbell.

That's the point, all you have to do is say your, whom ever and some people believe you. About Mom's cow bell, we buried it with her.

Yankeebiscuitfan
01-21-2008, 11:50 AM
Hello Mrs (or is it Miss?) and Mr. DiGiovanna. Nice to have you around. I think it is nice to hear about the Brooklyn Dodgers in a different way than only about the players.

Did you ever return to Brooklyn or NY to live there again, afer your dad passed away?

And did you become an LA Dodgers fan or did you remain loyal to Brooklyn.

kramer_47
01-21-2008, 11:56 AM
That's the point, all you have to do is say your, whom ever and some people believe you. About Mom's cow bell, we buried it with her.

I was thinking the same way you were, people can be whoever they want here and no one will know unless they are questioned. I've seen people use 2-3 names in the same forum, others get banned then they take another name and show up again a week a month or a few years later. Most of the time people are who they say they are but here and there you will have an imposter.

LeoD
01-21-2008, 12:00 PM
I was thinking the same way you were, people can be whoever they want here and no one will know unless they are questioned. I've seen people use 2-3 names in the same forum, others get banned then they take another name and show up again a week a month or a few years later. Most of the time people are who they say they are but here and there you will have an imposter.

That really isn't the same as claiming to be the relative of a famous person.

kramer_47
01-21-2008, 12:16 PM
That really isn't the same as claiming to be the relative of a famous person.

You're right but I really didn't mean it that way. I just meant you could be whoever you wanted to be including a relative of someone famous. Like I said in previous post I've seen one person play 2-3 people on same forum, who's to say that isn't happening in this situation.

donzblock
01-21-2008, 01:26 PM
I strongly suspect Greg is who he says he is and would still like to know if he inherited his dad's brow.

LeoD
01-21-2008, 01:35 PM
I strongly suspect Greg is who he says he is and would still like to know if he inherited his dad's brow.

I'd like to see some photo's of all the memorabilia he said he was going to show us.

kramer_47
01-21-2008, 02:13 PM
I'd like to see some photo's of all the memorabilia he said he was going to show us.

I wonder if Charlie kept some of the balls that he signed for some of the players. I'd also like to see a real Charlie D autograph on a ball, program or check that should be worth as much or more then some of the players autographs.

Westlake
01-21-2008, 02:18 PM
I want to know, who you people are, if you are who you say, lets see some proof, not rehashed photo's. Todd Anderson said he was the son of Ferrell, and proved it with photo's and documentation. Oh, by the way I'm the illegitimate son of Leo Durocher, and Hilda Chester. The photo's aren't even posted by you relatives, there by me and other member's.

Agreed. Please scan your birth certificate, social security card, a photo ID, and that outline of your hand you turn into a turkey for Thanksgiving Day at school and post them.

LeoD
01-21-2008, 04:49 PM
Agreed. Please scan your birth certificate, social security card, a photo ID, and that outline of your hand you turn into a turkey for Thanksgiving Day at school and post them.

Don't claim to be related to a famous person, and sharing there memorabilia with members of a forum.

kramer_47
01-21-2008, 04:56 PM
Agreed. Please scan your birth certificate, social security card, a photo ID, and that outline of your hand you turn into a turkey for Thanksgiving Day at school and post them.

Westlake you aren't allowed to post political things on this forum, your you tube link should be removed, this is a Brooklyn Dodgers forum not a democratic debate site.

Westlake
01-21-2008, 05:00 PM
Westlake you aren't allowed to post political things on this forum, your you tube link should be removed, this is a Brooklyn Dodgers forum not a democratic debate site.

Haha. Ruffled some feathers with a little joke, eh?

kramer_47
01-21-2008, 06:33 PM
Haha. Ruffled some feathers with a little joke, eh?
We're not here to ruffle feathers we're here to talk Brooklyn Dodgers baseball or in your case learn about a great baseball era long before your time.

LeoD
01-21-2008, 08:35 PM
We're not here to ruffle feathers we're here to talk Brooklyn Dodgers baseball or in your case learn about a great baseball era long before your time.

Go Kramer, home run.

LeoD
01-21-2008, 08:35 PM
Haha. Ruffled some feathers with a little joke, eh?

Very little.

Westlake
01-21-2008, 08:41 PM
So clever! Hope you didn't hurt yourself trying to come up with that one.

Mattingly
01-22-2008, 04:48 AM
So clever! Hope you didn't hurt yourself trying to come up with that one.
Please pardon my overstepping my bounds by assisting Dodger Deb this early in the morning, but would you mind just discussing Brooklyn history? Nobody here seems interested in your little joke. If you have any jokes, please just keep them in the BI forum.

If the Brooklyn forumers here are not interested in your form of humor, please respect them.

Many thanks. :)

DODGER DEB
01-22-2008, 06:46 AM
Please pardon my overstepping my bounds by assisting Dodger Deb this early in the morning, but would you mind just discussing Brooklyn history? Nobody here seems interested in your little joke. If you have any jokes, please just keep them in the BI forum.

If the Brooklyn forumers here are not interested in your form of humor, please respect them.

Many thanks. :)


Thanks, Matt!

I couldn't have said it better, myself.

c.

Mattingly
01-22-2008, 09:16 AM
Thanks, Matt!

I couldn't have said it better, myself.

c.
Thanks, Dodger Deb. Sometimes these "jokes" can go too far, and it's in very poor form from any perspective I can think of, that when you are amongst fans of a historical baseball team that hasn't played a game since late 1957, that someone would be here to joke.

There's way too much to learn about Brooklyn Dodger history. Hopefully, some others will realize this and be respectful of the long-time Brooklyn Dodger fans here!

kramer_47
01-22-2008, 09:51 AM
Please pardon my overstepping my bounds by assisting Dodger Deb this early in the morning, but would you mind just discussing Brooklyn history? Nobody here seems interested in your little joke. If you have any jokes, please just keep them in the BI forum.

If the Brooklyn forumers here are not interested in your form of humor, please respect them.

Many thanks. :)

Thank you Mattingly, very well said.

Mattingly
01-22-2008, 10:01 AM
Thank you Mattingly, very well said.
Thank you very much, and I definitely appreciate your support. It was early in the AM, and I hadn't expected anyone else to be up at that hour.

You're well-known here, as is LeoD, so anything to benefit a continued discussion of the Brooklyn forumers here is something that will always improve BBF as a whole. :)

kramer_47
01-22-2008, 07:50 PM
Thank you very much, and I definitely appreciate your support. It was early in the AM, and I hadn't expected anyone else to be up at that hour.

You're well-known here, as is LeoD, so anything to benefit a continued discussion of the Brooklyn forumers here is something that will always improve BBF as a whole. :)

Your welcome Mattingly it is nice to have someone looking after the forum, Deb can't always be here although it seems shes here 24/7 to help us out. I know LeoD must appreciate what you did as much as I do, thank you again.

LeoD
01-22-2008, 09:13 PM
Your welcome Mattingly it is nice to have someone looking after the forum, Deb can't always be here although it seems shes here 24/7 to help us out. I know LeoD must appreciate what you did as much as I do, thank you again.

Oh, I always have appreciate Mattingly, from when we were kids.

Mattingly
01-23-2008, 01:36 AM
Thanks, kramer_47 and LeoD. I very much appreciate this, and I'm a Brooklyn boy at heart myself, for 34 years.

I'm here odd hours, so whatever kind of helping hand I can offer to Dodger Deb, I'll be around. Dodger Deb is always very welcome in the Current Events and Yankee forums, as is everyone else here. ;)

You're all excellent forumers and this is an important historical part of the BBF community. I'm just very fortunate to have finally met a group of quality long-time Brooklyn Dodger fans, so the favor is the one I'm being given by the presence of all of you of NYC's favorite team from back in the days. :)

Oh, and LeoD, we're still kids, aren't we? Whether 10 or 90, Campy said that they're just men playing a boys game, so we're still boys and girls here, I would like to believe. :D

LeoD
01-24-2008, 08:22 PM
Hello all..

I just came across this site, and I wanted to introduce myself. My Grandfather was Charlie Digiovanna - a.k.a "The Brow". Although I never met him, he's been a main focal in my family all my life. My Grandma Shirley recently passed away in Aug. 2005, and with her passing, my mother (Rita) and I have gathered all the memorabila that has been collected for years... pictures, newspaper articles, etc. I would like to try to scan some of these items to share in the near future.

Would SO welcome any information any of you would like to share about him.. it could be things I haven't heard yet.

Anyway - hope to hear from ya'll sometime! Thanks! Angela


Still waiting for all the memorabila that has been collected for years... pictures, newspaper articles, etc.

LeoD
02-01-2008, 07:50 PM
Still waiting for all the memorabilia that has been collected for years... pictures, newspaper articles, etc. Got the feeling we will be waiting until hell freezes over for this stuff.

Yankeebiscuitfan
02-02-2008, 05:30 AM
Still waiting for all the memorabilia that has been collected for years... pictures, newspaper articles, etc. Got the feeling we will be waiting until hell freezes over for this stuff.

Maybe they are just not able to scan things...

LeoD
02-02-2008, 09:51 AM
Maybe they are just not able to scan things...

Then why don't they just say so, I have also PM'd them, no reply.

Ralph Zig Tyko
02-02-2008, 06:55 PM
Then why don't they just say so, I have also PM'd them, no reply.

Go figure, LeoD. Charlie's family not responding to your charm really surprises me... Aside, any granddaughters with Charlie's brow out there? Send pictures. :-)

Shotgun Shuba
02-04-2008, 12:46 PM
I just found out today, that Charlie signed all of the autographs on the first LA yearbook. I guess you could compare all of your autographs and see if they are real or not. There is an interesting interview on the Dodger website with Ed Roebuck that talks a lot about Charlie.

Photo from Walteromalley.com

willisraverchk77
02-04-2008, 12:55 PM
I just found out today, that Charlie signed all of the autographs on the first LA yearbook. I guess you could compare all of your autographs and see if they are real or not. There is an interesting interview on the Dodger website with Ed Roebuck that talks a lot about Charlie.


By Mark Langill

"I can't remember the important things," claimed former Dodgers pitcher Ed Roebuck when asked about the circumstances of one of the earliest community events after the franchise announced its move to the West Coast following the 1957 season.

The scene was Wrigley Field, the former Pacific Coast League home of the Los Angeles Angels. Dodgers team president Walter O'Malley acquired the PCL franchise prior to the 1957 campaign, along with the coveted territorial rights to the Los Angeles area.

In a publicity photo, Roebuck and teammates Gil Hodges, Jim Gilliam and Gino Cimoli are presenting a home plate to a stewardess. The uniforms are not regular Dodgers-issued jerseys, rather the "Los Angeles" versions that Roebuck suspects were left over from the previous tenants. The "LA" hats also are makeshift designs, as the final logo wouldn't be decided until early in 1958.

Although the details from that Wrigley Field event are sketchy in Roebuck's mind, he recalls with great delight the cross-country automobile trip from New York to Los Angeles with the family of Dodgers clubhouse manager Charlie "The Brow" DiGiovanna. The Roebuck family picked up the DiGiovannas in Dayton, Ohio. Along the way, they stopped by Anderson, Ind., to visit pitcher Carl Erskine and his family and then continued through New Mexico. While stopped at the Grand Canyon, DiGiovanna's dog swallowed a ball and Roebuck estimates a vet bill in the neighborhood of $200.

"We were very excited; it was like a new world to investigate," the 76-year-old Roebuck said. "I really didn't believe O'Malley was going to move. I thought after all those negotiations with Robert Moses from the city's office that he would finally come into a situation where he'd get his ballpark in Brooklyn. The Dodgers were a tradition for many years; it just seemed impossible they would move. I'm sure Moses thought O'Malley wouldn't leave."

During his tenure in Brooklyn, DiGiovanna was known for his ability to ghost-sign the team baseballs in the clubhouse with remarkable similarity to the real signature. He could "sign" any player's autograph, including O'Malley's. Players were asked to sign three dozen baseballs before every game. DiGiovanna's motto was, "Three dozen balls, they're for a good cause ... 'cause I don't have to sign them!"

"When we got to Los Angeles, Charlie the Brow says, 'We have to go to the Dodger office immediately,'" Roebuck said. "Turns out they were going to have a giant baseball as the cover illustration of the 1958 yearbook and they wanted Charlie to sign all the player names so it could be published. [Publicity director] Red Patterson bumped into Charlie at the office and said, 'Boy, am I glad to see you!'"

Finding a home also proved amusing for Roebuck. He brought several teammates to the Lakewood area to meet a developer, who was having trouble selling individual lots around a golf course. He offered All-Star outfielder Duke Snider a lot at half price if he told everyone he lived in Lakewood.

"Duke couldn't do it because he owned a bowling alley in Fallbrook," Roebuck said. "I asked, 'Where do I sign up?'"

Infielder Norm Larker, pitcher Stan Williams and pitcher Roger Craig also purchased lots in the Lakewood area. At the time of the transaction, the developer told Craig that if he pitched a shutout that night and Larker had four hits in the game, he would give them some stock in his company. Craig won the game, but didn't pitch the shutout. Larker had three hits.

Roebuck, who signed with Brooklyn as a free agent in 1949, made his Major League debut with the 1955 world champion Dodgers, posting a 5-6 record and 4.71 ERA in 47 games. He also helped the Dodgers win the pennant in 1956 and made three appearances in the World Series against the Yankees. Roebuck's career twice appeared in jeopardy when he missed the entire 1959 season and most of 1961 due to arm problems.

During a stint in the 1961 Arizona Instructional League, Roebuck crossed paths with rookie outfielder Roy Gleason, a recent graduate from Garden Grove High School. At age 30, Roebuck was playing against kids, trying to regain his form.

"I remember when he was trying to pitch and get the calcium deposits loosened from his shoulder," Gleason said. "You could see the tears in his eyes every time he pitched."

Roebuck appeared in 64 games in 1962 and went 10-2 with a 3.09 ERA and eight saves. The Dodgers traded him to the Washington Senators during the 1963 season and he later played for the Philadelphia Phillies from 1964 to 1966.

In 2005, Roebuck attended the 50th anniversary reunion of the 1955 world champion Brooklyn Dodgers. Roebuck brought two very special guests to the field that Sunday afternoon -- his two grandchildren, ages 8 and 4. The sister introduced herself and her younger brother with a polite greeting and baseball analogy: "He's Satchel and I'm Gage -- just like Satchel Paige, the pitcher."

The mild-mannered Roebuck cracked a slight smile as he spied the two kids in the dugout, sitting next to his former teammates in the Dodgers dugout during the festivities. Some things you just don't forget.

Greg_DiGiovanna
04-21-2008, 05:01 PM
So, what kind of proof do you need to see? How about my father's (Charlie's) 1955 World Series Ring. Or maybe some family pictures, or better yet, how how my birth cerificate? At least I am not using by someone elses famous name as my alias.

Greg DiGiovanna

P.S. I don't have my father's unibrow.

Let's Go Mets!
05-09-2008, 09:13 AM
Would SO welcome any information any of you would like to share about him.. it could be things I haven't heard yet.

Anyway - hope to hear from ya'll sometime! Thanks! Angela

Charlie, with Happy Felton and the Boston Braves bat boy.

Greg_DiGiovanna
08-26-2008, 11:06 PM
My family never moved back to NY after moving to LA with the Dodgers. And of course I did become a LA Dodgers fan, and I always remined a Brooklyn fan.
Greg D.

Greg_DiGiovanna
08-27-2008, 12:16 AM
This is in response to Leo D.'s reply of why I haven't posted any of the photos that I have my of father memorabilia. The plain truth is that I didn't know how to post my collection of photos. As for my niece's (Angela) memorabilia, I doubt she has what she claims to have in her possesion, since my mother gave me most everything she had before she passed away three years ago. And why is Leo D. so antagonistic toward me and my niece? I don't believe I have to prove anything to him. But I will try posting a few of the photos I have and hopefully this will satisfy those doubters out there, but no birth certificate or SS card. Long Live Dodger Blue...

Greg D., aka: "Son of The Brow".

P.S. The photo of Charlie "The Brow" & the little kid is me and my dad on Ebbets Field (about 1955).

Greg_DiGiovanna
08-27-2008, 12:21 AM
I am who I say I am, just check out my last posting with photos, and I do NOT have my father unibrow. Greg D, aka: Eldest Son of "The Brow"

Greg_DiGiovanna
08-27-2008, 12:24 AM
Leo D, Please see my last post (dated 8/26/08) for photos of me & my dad Charlie The Brow and his Brooklyn Dodgers 1955 World Series Rings, still in my position.
Greg D. aka: Eldest Son of Charlie The Brow

Greg_DiGiovanna
08-27-2008, 12:27 AM
My family did not end up with any of Charlie's autographed baseballs.
Greg D. aka: Eldest Son of Charlie The Brow

penncentralpete
08-27-2008, 07:27 AM
Leo D, Please see my last post (dated 8/26/08) for photos of me & my dad Charlie The Brow and his Brooklyn Dodgers 1955 World Series Rings, still in my position.
Greg D. aka: Eldest Son of Charlie The Brow

Hello Greg: Don't worry about LeoD, he has been banned from this site. Actually, the charming fellow was banned TWICE from this site (and others), once as "Jackie42" and once as "LeoD".

dodger dynamo
08-27-2008, 03:25 PM
Hi, Greg,
Leo d, argued with me all the time just cause he thought I was too sentimental about the dodgers, believe that? As far as I'm concerned you never had to post any proof, but it is great to see the memorabilia and the ring, you should consider having a repro made, keep the original super safe and wear the new one, not as much fun or meaningful, but safer. battlin bake, the dodger dynamo

Michael Green
08-27-2008, 03:32 PM
Greg, it's great to see you here. I'm curious about the story that "The Brow" once got thrown out of a game, which is kind of hard for a guy in his position to manage. Has anybody heard that story?