Pete Hamill: Never Forgive & Never Forget

[DODGER DEB]

In today's NY Daily News, PETE HAMILL, who is one of US, has emerged with quite a piece.

Read for yourself...

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/2007/12/04/2007-12-04_baseball_hall_of_fame_opens_doors_for_fo.html

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[MattM]

Good read. My problem comes from the first comment on the page.

podairj Dec 4, 2007 8:26:51 AM
Dear Pete, I'm an academic historian who is, believe it or not, writing a biography of O'Malley. Sometimes history comes down to little quirks that no one can control. The quirk here? Robert Moses was not a sports fan. He considered spectator sports a waste of time. He just didn't "get" the Dodgers, and why their fans invested so much emotional energy in them. To him, they were just a bunch of guys throwing a ball around. If Moses had been a baseball fan, I'm convinced the history I'm writing would have been much different.

Can people not consider the HBO special as the word of God? A little research does wonders.

[ColtscorrAL]

My wife just emailed it to me.

Hopefully many of those with a voice will speak out or write about their displeasure over the election of this slime ball to the HOF.

[LeoD]

In today's NY Daily News, PETE HAMILL, who is one of US, has emerged with quite a piece.

Read for yourself...

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/2007/12/04/2007-12-04_baseball_hall_of_fame_opens_doors_for_fo.html

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donzblock Dec 4, 2007 12:20:41 PM
O'Malley's induction places him exactly where he belongs: in a little town that functions like a vacuum and leaves tourists with the cleanest pockets imaginable. O'Malley's niche in the Hall should be the box office; the $14.00 tickets should emerge from his mechanical mouth. Visitors to the Hall who become nauseous should have the option of projecting their innermost feelings onto a Walter's Wall. With O'Malley in the Hall of Fame, it is only a matter of time before the Hall itself moves.

One of BBF's guys, right DD?

[DODGER DEB]

donzblock Dec 4, 2007 12:20:41 PM
O'Malley's induction places him exactly where he belongs: in a little town that functions like a vacuum and leaves tourists with the cleanest pockets imaginable. O'Malley's niche in the Hall should be the box office; the $14.00 tickets should emerge from his mechanical mouth. Visitors to the Hall who become nauseous should have the option of projecting their innermost feelings onto a Walter's Wall. With O'Malley in the Hall of Fame, it is only a matter of time before the Hall itself moves.

One of BBF's guys, right DD?

Thanks for being a surrogate, LeoD.

The good Professor always did have a way with words, now to be outdone by his ideas.

Right on, Professor!

c.

[LeoD]

Thanks for being a surrogate, LeoD.

The good Professor always did have a way with words, now to be outdone by his ideas.

Right on, Professor!

c.

Your welcome

[The Commissioner]

That's exactly why I miss Professor and always admired him. The man is brilliant.

[penncentralpete]

In today's NY Daily News, PETE HAMILL, who is one of US, has emerged with quite a piece.

Read for yourself...

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/2007/12/04/2007-12-04_baseball_hall_of_fame_opens_doors_for_fo.html

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Pete Hamill.......

[Matty]

I've been a fan of Pete's since the '60s, but I have a problem with this quote from the article and therefore the whole gist of it:

Scholars have made cases that O'Malley had no recourse, that the true villain was Robert Moses, that New York and the rest of the country were being transformed by television, blah and blah and blah.

My problems with that are:

1) I wouldn't say that a bunch of partisan paid-off hacks by the O'Malley family are scholars. That is giving them much too much credit.

2) He needs to debunk that garbage passing for a documentary more because "blah blah blah" just doesn't work.

I think Dave Anderson's article in the Times hit the spot a little better, but I won't turn down any help the cause can get.

[D6+]

That's exactly why I miss Professor and always admired him. The man is brilliant.


The Professor hit a Grand Slam HR.


What makes the situation of Walter O' Malley being voted into what was once the HOF that much worse is that the induction will take place in the same state that Brooklyn is in.

Even for those who truly believe Walter O' Malley deserved to be voted in, I can't even imagine them thinking it's appropriate that the ceremony will take place in NY State. Only 200 or so miles from Brooklyn.

[mandrake]

Personally, I'll take someone who bet on his own team over a behind the scenes lying back stabber. And a back stabber who cried poverty, on his way to the bank as the richest owner in baseball.

Another dark day for the Hall of fame (shame)

[VIBaseball]

Today's New York Times quotes Pete Hamill revisiting the famous "three greatest villains list" game he played with Jack Newfield -- to include Bernie Madoff. The key passage:

He [Madoff] qualifies for the 20th century, Mr. Hamill said on Monday, because that’s when the swindle began. While Mr. Hamill can never forgive O'Malley for moving the Brooklyn Dodgers to Los Angeles, even he acknowledges that Mr. Madoff's sins are far graver. 'But I'm sure Jack would have simply expanded the list to four,' he said of Mr. Newfield, who died in 2004. 'And I'd probably agree. O'Malley would still bat cleanup.'

A New Name for a List of Villains
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/10/nyregion/10nyc.html?ref=nyregion

[MATHA531]

Is there any doubt????