ARod to Boras: "SHUT UP"

[lovethegame]

Looks like AClod has come to his senses and realized Boras and his 35 per are a fantasy
Dealing directly with Tampa for a still outrageous but doable deal.
He may have to settle for 27 mil per over 10.
gee and with gas 310 a gallon ,I hope he's ok

[Spazz]

As a fan of the National League, I've only really watched Arod with limited interest. Yep, he's a great player. But after he interrupted the World Series with his opt-out news story I have no use for him. Anyone who disrespects our beloved game that much has no place in it. File Arod with Bonds. Same trash, different coast.

[lovethegame]

As a fan of the National League, I've only really watched Arod with limited interest. Yep, he's a great player. But after he interrupted the World Series with his opt-out news story I have no use for him. Anyone who disrespects our beloved game that much has no place in it. File Arod with Bonds. Same trash, different coast.
Unfortunately he is still young.
Amazing how fast he dumps the guy who made him rich

[Captain Cold Nose]

Unfortunately he is still young.
Amazing how fast he dumps the guy who made him rich

Right, because Arod himself had nothing to do with that. More like the other way around, Arod dumped the guy he made incredibly rich.

Do you think ARod is the only player making that kind of money? He only makes the most. There are many players who make similar salaries per year.

[AutographCollector]

I haven't been following any of this. So A-rod fired Boras has his agent?

[sturg1dj]

with baseball being a billion dollar industry I would hope that some players make bank....heck the owners were already million and billionaires when they started

[rockin500]

Looks like AClod has come to his senses and realized Boras and his 35 per are a fantasy
Dealing directly with Tampa for a still outrageous but doable deal.
He may have to settle for 27 mil per over 10.
gee and with gas 310 a gallon ,I hope he's ok
i think you're the one who is living in fantasy land. Boras and Arod knew they werent going to get $350. Its called negotiating. You NEVER trust the first numbers thrown out there on either side. If you do, more the pity on you.

Not to mention Boras is the one driving these negotiations despite what some reports are saying.

[brett]

i think you're the one who is living in fantasy land. Boras and Arod knew they werent going to get $350. Its called negotiating. You NEVER trust the first numbers thrown out there on either side. If you do, more the pity on you.

Not to mention Boras is the one driving these negotiations despite what some reports are saying.

I agree. Now some team is going to think "Yea we got A-Rod for a mere 270 mil."

A-Rod wants out of NY because he doesn't like it there. He always thought in the back of his mind he would get to move back to shortstop.

[digglahhh]

As a fan of the National League, I've only really watched Arod with limited interest. Yep, he's a great player. But after he interrupted the World Series with his opt-out news story I have no use for him. Anyone who disrespects our beloved game that much has no place in it. File Arod with Bonds. Same trash, different coast.

How is one even remotely like the other?

And, A-Rod didn't interrupt jack! The decision to file the paperwork or whatever was probably made by Boras (you can make a somewhat credible argument that because Boras works for A-Rod, his actions reflect on his client). But, that's not where the "culpability" ends.

His paperwork first has to be reported to (leaked, in all likelihood in this case) to the media. The media then has to decide the news is important enough interrupt the WS to announce it. Go to AP or Business Wire's websites, I'm sure there were plenty of press releases issued during the WS, but you don't just snap your fingers and "upstage" the World Series!

Sure, what happened was classless, and Boras may have planned for the situation to play out the way it did, but how that translates to A-Rod being a piece of trash is completely beyond me.

When he breaks the all time HR record, are you going to ask that MLB place an asterisk next to the record to denote, "interrupted 2007 uncompetitive World Series romp to announce opting out of his record contract in order to pursue an even more lucrative deal."

[TonyStarks]

I haven't been following any of this. So A-rod fired Boras has his agent?

Nope. He just went behind his back to deal with the Yankees directly and apparently to offer his "mea culpa".

Now Boras is being forced to take a back seat while ARod fixes the mess he's allowed himself to get into.

[Rags2Riches]

i think you're the one who is living in fantasy land. Boras and Arod knew they werent going to get $350. Its called negotiating. You NEVER trust the first numbers thrown out there on either side. If you do, more the pity on you.

Not to mention Boras is the one driving these negotiations despite what some reports are saying.


bingo...it's like selling a used car out on the open market....you always ask roughly $300-$500.00 more then you really want with O.B.O behind the price.

[RubeBaker]

The Steinbrenners were lying when they said they wouldn't negotiate with A-Rod, what they meant was they weren't going to negotiate with Boras.

Kudos to A-Rod for getting the deal he wants and not what his agent thinks he should get.

[Mattingly]

i think you're the one who is living in fantasy land. Boras and Arod knew they werent going to get $350. Its called negotiating. You NEVER trust the first numbers thrown out there on either side. If you do, more the pity on you.

Not to mention Boras is the one driving these negotiations despite what some reports are saying.
Wow, must be a full moon out tonight. You and I finally agree. Maybe I'll change my mind just to remain consistent! :D ;) :p

I'll agree that the initial offer was up there. However, I think it was so much more "way out there" that it didn't even seem fathomable by any means.

When Carlos Beltran was an FA, Boras asked for $200m as the startoff price. Everyone knew that nobody was paying $20m/yr for him, and that he wasn't getting a 10-year deal. Still, pay up 85% of the $20m and give a 7-year deal, we're 85% of one (salary) and 70% of the other (number of years).

In the case of Alex Rodriguez, the $35m figure was beyond bizarre. Still, I think that there's a huge difference between the approximately 80% difference between the $27.5m that Rodriguez negotiated himself and the $35m that Bora$ originally asked for.

First, $20m isn't really extreme, considering that Johan Santana could easily make that as a free agent. However, $35m is well above what anyone else has gotten, and almost $10m/yr beyond what anyone had gotten on a very long-term deal, especially 10 years.

Second, Boras used the $200m thing for Beltran as "starter price". It's like the sticker price on a car, but you'll obviously haggle this down for less.

In the case of the $350m, Bora$ told the Yanks' FO that they'd either better come up with that or they wouldn't even get to face Rodriguez personally. That's not a starter price. That's what the team has to *OFFER* before they get to meet the guy who'd played about 160 games for them that season.

Anyway, I think that Bora$ realized that his "get even filthier rich" scheme backfired and blew up in his face, so his sending Alex Rodriguez to do the inital negotiations re talking money and years worked, and the deal will likely come through.

I find great fault in Bora$ extreme greed and logic. If Bora$, yourself, every GM in baseball and everyone on this board knows that if you want top dollar, you have to get the Yankees involved, why would you try offending that team? This knowing that the next team likely to sign someone of his stature would be Boston, who could sign Mike Lowell if they're willing to give him a 4-year deal (Boston only offered 3 years).

The whole thing just seemed very weird to me, but then again, when you wish to play baseball and still have the gross national product of a small vacation island country, I suppose that stranger things are bound to happen. Hopefully, not too often in the game we love! :D

[Mattingly]

The Steinbrenners were lying when they said they wouldn't negotiate with A-Rod, what they meant was they weren't going to negotiate with Boras.

Kudos to A-Rod for getting the deal he wants and not what his agent thinks he should get.
Hank Steinbrenner may not be a genius, but he did a great job in calling Bora$' bluff. What a better way to let people know you're not giving up an endless supply of money (including money from the cable TV company, YES) just to get one player who doesn't happen to pitch.

Stuff happens, we discuss! :D