1967 Free Agent Auction

[leecemark]

--From now till the end of the auction only one player per post may be bid on. Highest bid cast with a post time (always way off real time) on/before 9PM EST wins the player. Have fun.

[catcher24]

These are the player bids I have through Post #251, the start of one bid per post. If you see any mistakes, let me know ASAP and I'll update. Good luck!:cap:

FREE AGENT BIDS

Bob Allen – Gold Sox, 2M

Jim Britton – Gamblers, 250K

Pete Cimino – Skipjacks, 4.75M

Jim Cosman – Gamblers, 250K

Tim Cullen – Badgers, 500K

Vic Davalillo – Gamblers, 500K

Bob Dillman – Badgers, 250K

Tito Fuentes – Badgers, 500K

Joe Gibbon – Shoeless Joes, 4.75M

Jake Gibbs – Badgers, 250K

Dave Giusti – Skipjacks, 1.5M

Julio Gotay - Legends, 250K

Bill Graham – Skipjacks, 1M

Jimmie Hall – Badgers, 250K

Jack Hamilton – Badgers, 750K

Mike Hershberger – Badgers, 1M

Bruce Howard – Badgers, 250K

Elston Howard – Knights, 250K

Bob Humphreys – Badgers, 250K

Deron Johnson – Redbirds, 250K

John Kennedy – Baders, 250K

Jerry McNertney- Gold Sox, 500K

Stu Miller – Hard Cider, 4.75M

Barry Moore – Badgers, 750K

Bubba Morton – Hard Cider, 4.75M

Ray Oyler – Badgers, 250K

Juan Pizarro – Badgers, 250K

Bob Priddy – Badgers, 250K

Pete Richert – Redbirds, 5M

Dave Ricketts - Legends, 250K

Jay Ritchie – Skipjacks, 3M

Phil Roof – Badgers, 250K

Richie Scheinblum – Redbirds, 500K

Al Spangler – Badgers, 250K

Dick Tracewski - Legends, 250K

Bill White – Badgers, 250K

Bobby Wine – Badgers, 250K

[Wasp]

Bill White - 500K

Sheesh, I almost forgot about tonight. :(

[Erik Bedard]

If I don't get McNertney or Allen, I'm open to trades for infielders. I've got about seven pitchers with good years in the not-too-distant future, and while some (Bahnsen, Blass, Hiller) are untouchable, the rest could be had in the right deal.

[catcher24]

Time check for reference with watch

[catcher24]

Is it just my connection, or is everybody getting slow response times tonight? Seems like the pages are taking forever to load on a refresh.

[leecemark]

--It had been a little slow, but it seems fine now.

[catcher24]

Must just be my connection tonight, then. Maybe the snow has something to do with it. Figures....

[leecemark]

--Snow already? You could be in for a long winter.

[Wasp]

John Buzhardt - 250K

[catcher24]

Lake effect off of Lake Erie. It'll be gone by Thursday or Friday. But just to give you an idea, the city I live in averages 120 inches of snow per year, and the village I work in averages 180 inches per year. All thanks to good ol' Lake Erie!

[J W]

Hello,

What is the current time so I can sync with the crazy BBF time I always have?

(for reference, my clock read 8:54 when I typed that and the site says 1:33 am)

[catcher24]

BBF time was 8:33 at your post. My watch is 20 minutes exactly ahead of BBF, and it says 8:54 right now.

[J W]

Why in the world would BBF be 5 hours ahead? :confused:

Eh, I haven't complained before about it but still, I've always wondered...

[catcher24]

It's actually 20 minutes BEHIND for me, :confused: This must be something that BBF personalizes to every computer!:rofl:

[Wasp]

Ken Berry - 250K

[mac195]

Why in the world would BBF be 5 hours ahead? :confused:

Eh, I haven't complained before about it but still, I've always wondered...

You can fix that by editing you time preference. Go to "usercp", edit options and scroll down.

[J W]

Ah, ok thanks. That's what I get for keeping quiet about it all this time. :laugh

[mac195]

Jerry Kenney .25

[Wasp]

Tim Cullen - 750K

[J W]

Did I forget to put Kenney on my team?

Lemme double check...

[leecemark]

Jerry Kenney .25

--Kenney got picked in the rookie draft

[leecemark]

dick Green 250K

[Erik Bedard]

Wow, it's slow tonight. Ten minutes to go and we haven't gotten through a page.

[J W]

yep, he's there... sorry Mac

[leecemark]

--Its not a very exciting group of guys were bidding on.

[Wasp]

Barry Moore - 1M

[mac195]

Dick Green 500K

[mac195]

Mike Shannon 250K

[leecemark]

Green 750K

[mac195]

Green 1 M....

[leecemark]

Green 1.25

[catcher24]

Green, 1Million

[J W]

Richert 5.25

[catcher24]

Mike Shannon, 1.25M

[leecemark]

--Green 1.75

[mac195]

green 1.5M...

[catcher24]

Dick Green, 1.5M

[Wasp]

Mike Shannon - 500K

EDIT: Late.

[leecemark]

--Bidding closed.

[catcher24]

Dick Green, 3M

[leecemark]

Mike Shannon - 500K

--Sorry this one missed the bell.

[catcher24]

OK, I'm up to date through Post 278. Give me 10 minutes and the finals will be up.

[leecemark]

--Three of us holding out on Green see. Overbidding myself by 500K to beat the next jump paid off nicely:dance.

[Erik Bedard]

The Gold Sox, due to signing too many people, release Lew Burdette.

[leecemark]

Dick Green, 3M

--He could have gotten expensive if one of us had started the party a little earlier.

[catcher24]

I would've had you, Mark, but the stupid thing spit my bid of 3M back at me and I had to do it over - too late! Also, if you decide my bidding on Shannon is not kosher, I can live with that. I was absolutely stunned no one bid more on him! I bought out his contract, but figured I'd bid a little for him anyway. Let me know.

[catcher24]

These are the winning bids as I have them. If you find any errors, please post same.

Bob Allen – Gold Sox, 2M

Ken Berry – Stingers, 250K

Jim Britton – Gamblers, 250K

John Buzhardt – Stingers, 250K

Pete Cimino – Skipjacks, 4.75M

Jim Cosman – Gamblers, 250K

Tim Cullen – Stingers, 750K

Vic Davalillo – Gamblers, 500K

Bob Dillman – Badgers, 250K

Tito Fuentes – Badgers, 500K

Joe Gibbon – Shoeless Joes, 4.75M

Jake Gibbs – Badgers, 250K

Dave Giusti – Skipjacks, 1.5M

Julio Gotay - Legends, 250K

Bill Graham – Skipjacks, 1M

Dick Green – Knights, 1.75M

Jimmie Hall – Badgers, 250K

Jack Hamilton – Badgers, 750K

Mike Hershberger – Badgers, 1M

Bruce Howard – Badgers, 250K

Elston Howard – Knights, 250K

Bob Humphreys – Badgers, 250K

Deron Johnson – Redbirds, 250K

John Kennedy – Baders, 250K

Jerry McNertney- Gold Sox, 500K

Stu Miller – Hard Cider, 4.75M

Barry Moore – Stingers, 1M

Bubba Morton – Hard Cider, 4.75M

Ray Oyler – Badgers, 250K

Juan Pizarro – Badgers, 250K

Bob Priddy – Badgers, 250K

Pete Richert – Skipjacks, 5.25M

Dave Ricketts - Legends, 250K

Jay Ritchie – Skipjacks, 3M

Phil Roof – Badgers, 250K

Richie Scheinblum – Redbirds, 500K

Mike Shannon – Legends, 1.25M

Al Spangler – Badgers, 250K

Dick Tracewski - Legends, 250K

Bill White – Stingers, 500K

Bobby Wine – Badgers, 250K

[leecemark]

--Once the winning bids are up anyone under 40 players may sign any remaining players at minimum wage on a first come first served basis. If anyone besides the Gold Sox won more than they bargained for they also need to cut down to 40. I'll get the rosters updated and posted, as well as new free agent lists shortly after Lew gets the winners posted.

[catcher24]

Well, I figure the steal of the draft is either Green at 3M or Mike Shannon at 1.25M. Green has a lot more seasons to play, but since he can only be signed for three years like Shannon, I'd say Shannon is a wee bit more valuable because he's full time all three years, while Green only has one full season.

[mac195]

HC sign Jack Fisher P to a two year 250K contract.

[catcher24]

HC sign Jack Fisher P to a two year 250K contract.

I was a bit surprised with everyone needing pitching that no one bid on him. Not very good this year, but an innings eater for sure, and he has a pretty decent season in 68. Nice buy there Mac.

[Erik Bedard]

McCormick will get a three-year deal, McNertney and Allen will each get one.

[catcher24]

Legends announce the following free agent contracts:

Julio Gotay - 1 year, 250K
Dave Ricketts - 1 year, 250K
Mike Shannon - 3 years, 1.25M
Dick Tracewski - 1 year, 250K

[leecemark]

--I only noticed 1 error on the winning bid list. The Stingers went 500K on Bill White. If Green would have been a steal at 3M, then he must be grand larceny at the 1.75M I actually got him for:). He is nothing but a good glove, no hit utility man in 67-8, but he is a darned good player in 69.
--Pete Richert was the only player signed tonight at more than the 1-3 year salary range. Usually we have a few guys in the secondary market who get surprisingly big contracts, but this group lacked even a demi-star.

[J W]

You're right Lew -- that's a gaff on my part. But we're still very happy with what we've got:

Richert (5.25) - 4 yr (67-70)
Giusti (1.50) - 2 yr (67-68)
Cimino (4.75) - 1 yr
Ritchie (3.0) - 1 yr
Graham (1.0) - 1 yr

In for a penny, in for a pound with Richert. If he survives expansion he'll serve us well in 69-70.

That takes us to 41 players / $95.5 mil. Anyone up for a two-for-one trade before I release someone? :p

[mac195]

Bubba Morton - $4.75M - 1 year
Stu Miller - $4.75M - 1 year

[leecemark]

I would've had you, Mark, but the stupid thing spit my bid of 3M back at me and I had to do it over - too late! Also, if you decide my bidding on Shannon is not kosher, I can live with that. I was absolutely stunned no one bid more on him! I bought out his contract, but figured I'd bid a little for him anyway. Let me know.

--No problem on Shannon. I bought out and then re-signed Pascaul last year or the year before. Green was a non-tender of mine this year (he would have been a free agent before his 69 season).

[catcher24]

Don't know how I screwed up that White bid by the Stingers. Heck, it wasn't even busy then! I think I edited it in, but forgot to save. Glad you caught it. He doesn't have a huge year, but he is a decent lefty platoon at first and the Stingers need all the help they can get (sorry, Max). :hp

I thought I was OK with Shannon, but just wanted to be sure and be fair.

[mac195]

I was a bit surprised with everyone needing pitching that no one bid on him. Not very good this year, but an innings eater for sure, and he has a pretty decent season in 68. Nice buy there Mac.

Yeah, I might get some use out of him next season.

[-Kyle-]

Jim Britton – Gamblers, 250K 67-69
Jim Cosman – Gamblers, 250K 67-67
Vic Davalillo – Gamblers, 500K 67-68 - wow...Flood, Davis, Davadilo, and Cardenal...anyone want a CF? :Laugh

also

Sandy Alomar - 250k 67-69
Ed Kirkpatrick - 250k 67-69

maybe more...I will add tomorrow

[leecemark]

--Kirkpatrick has a nice 1969 season. I didn't have the roster spot for him, but if he'd made it past Opening day he would have been my first signing.

[ElHalo]

Clay Dalrymple - $0.25 (1 yr)
Vern Fuller - $0.25 (3 yr)
Ed Kranepool - $0.25 (1 yr)
Fred Valentine - $0.25 (1 yr)

None of the options were particularly tempting; it'll be the one aution I don't mind having missed.

[J W]

The Skipjacks will release C Ron Brand to get down to 40 players.

[leecemark]

--I added the following players to the Cannons roster on 1 year, minimum wage deals; Mike Adamson, Luis Alcaraz, George Altman, Steve Bailey, Lee Bales, Bo Belinsky, Walt Bond, Bob Barton, Dennis Bennett, Ty Cline, Rocky Colavito and Marty Martinez.
--Here are the number of players now programed for each team;
Cannons 40
Badgers 38
Gold Sox 40
Diablos 36
Shoeles Joes 40
Skipjacks 41
Gamblers 38
Knights 40
Legends 40
Hard Cider 39
Redbirds 39
Stingers 36
--Let me know if there are any errors on the attached roster. Deadline for getting to 40 players is midnight EST on Thursday, November 8. Deadline for submitting 25 man active roster and managerial profiles is midnight EST on Saturday, November 10. Opening Day will be Sunday, Novemeber 11.

[ElHalo]

Mark,

I note three differences between your list and mine: you have me with Jim O'Toole and Curt Simmons, and I don't. I also have me with Bob Hendley. I'll look into it and see where the discrepency lies.

[mac195]

HC sign P Danny Coombs to a 1-year contract at 250K

[buppers]

sp - Ron Reed
of - Jim Landis

[baseballPAP]

The Redbirds would like to add Steve Barber...I think he's still there.

[leecemark]

--Barber was listed as a FA in error. He is still with the Cannons. I did a cleanup of the Cannons roster before filling it, cross referencing with what he had on his team thread. A few players had expired contracts and were late additions to the FA file. Nobody special, but maybe usefull to someone. Sorry for the delay in fixing that delinquent roster.

[buppers]

Methinks Mark needs a secretary :hp

[catcher24]

Methinks Mark needs a secretary

I think he can handle it, but I guess we could all chip in and get him one. Better be ugly, though, or his wife might get upset!:p ;) :laugh

[baseballPAP]

--Barber was listed as a FA in error. He is still with the Cannons. I did a cleanup of the Cannons roster before filling it, cross referencing with what he had on his team thread. A few players had expired contracts and were late additions to the FA file. Nobody special, but maybe usefull to someone. Sorry for the delay in fixing that delinquent roster.

Fred Talbot is our Mr. Irrelevant then....
Talbot-3 slightly useful years
Richie Scheinblum-1 year
Deron Johnson 3 years

[leecemark]

I think he can handle it, but I guess we could all chip in and get him one. Better be ugly, though, or his wife might get upset!:p ;) :laugh

--Maybe you could go ahead with the pretty one and I'll just schedule her when the missus is at work:shhh:. Its about time this job started coming with some perks:).

[J W]

maybe you can borrow the girls from that More Taste League commish...

:twocents: :D

[leecemark]

--Maybe you guys should chip in for a lawyer for the league offices if I do:eek:.

[leecemark]

Mark,

I note three differences between your list and mine: you have me with Jim O'Toole and Curt Simmons, and I don't. I also have me with Bob Hendley. I'll look into it and see where the discrepency lies.

--With O'Toole and Simmons and without Hendley you are at 40 now. If your roster is correct and mine incorrect, which is certainly possible, then you'd need another player. Let me know.

[jkc32]

Shoeless signs Joe Gibbon for 1 year.

[catcher24]

Well, better late than never, I guess. I finally got around to checking which records were broken or tied in 1966 (of the ones I track regularly). The results are below. New records are in bold.

SINGLE GAME RECORDS - INDIVIDUAL

Most triples: 2 Al Kaline, Tony Taylor, Lou Brock, Vada Pinson - ties record held by 46 players

Most Home Runs: 4 Jim Ray Hart, Diablos Ties record set by Hank Aaron

Most Hit By Pitch: 2 Tony Cloninger (wonder if he retaliated?:laugh), Orlando Cepeda, Dick Groat, Leo Cardenas, Ron Santo, Joe Azcue Ties record held by 33 others.

Most strikeouts: 5 Dave Nicholson, Hard Cider Ties record held by Lou Johnson

Most Innings Pitched: 11.2 Dennis Ribant, Shoeless Joes Breaks record of 11 held by 4 pitchers


SINGLE GAME RECORDS - TEAM

Most Triples: 4 (Gold Sox twice, Diablos) Breaks record of 3 held by 32 teams.

Most Hit By Pitch: 3 Ten teams Ties record held by many teams.

Most Strikeouts (batters): 17 Diablos Ties record held by Stingers and Skipjacks

Most strikeouts (pitchers): 17 Gamblers Ties record held by Hard Cider and Knights.

Most Walks Allowed: 14 Knights Ties record, also held by Knights (1961)

Home Runs Allowed: 6 Diablos Ties record held by Diablos and Stingers


SINGLE SEASON RECORDS - INDIVIDUAL

Batting Average: .392, Matty Alou Redbirds Breaks record of .367 (Cepeda, 1963)

Wins: 27 Sandy Koufax, Skipjacks Breaks record of 25 (Pascual, 1961)

Losses: 23 Claude Osteen, Stingers; Al Jackson, Pirates Breaks old record of 21 (Larry Jackson, Don Drysdale)

ERA: 1.92 Juan Marichal, Knights/Pirates Breaks old record of 2.23 (Hank Aguirre, 1962)

Innings Pitched: 310.2 Sandy Koufax, Skipjacks Breaks old record of 294.2 (Drysdale, 1964)

Games Started: 41 Mudcat Grant, Cannons Ties record held by Tony Cloninger and Whitey Ford

Saves: 40 Don McMahon, Cannons Breaks record of 37 (McMahon, 1962)

Hits Allowed: 328 Dick Ellsworth, Cannons Breaks record of 306 (Whitey Ford, 1965)

Runners Per 9 Innings: 8.4 Sandy Koufax, Skipjacks Breaks record of 9.0 (Marichal, 1965)


SINGLE SEASON RECORDS - TEAM

Slugging Percentage - low: .323 Stingers Breaks record of .342 (Gamblers, 1965)

At Bats - Fewest: 5654 Gamblers Breaks record of 5674 (Skipjacks, 1961)

Doubles - Fewest: 188 Gamblers Breaks record of 205 (Shoeless Joes, 1964)

Triples - Most: 71 Knights Breaks record of 69 (Legends, 1962)

Home Runs - Fewest: 36 Stingers SHATTERS record of 77 (Stingers, 1964)

Stolen Bases - Fewest: 15 Hard Cider Breaks record of 20 (Knights 1962, 1963)

Winning Streak - Shortest for Season: 3 Stingers Breaks record of 4 (several teams)

Innings Pitched - Most: 1539.2 Cannons Breaks record of 1537 (Shoeless Joes, 1964)

Innings Pitched - Fewest: 1474.1 Gold Sox Breaks record of 1478.1 (Stingers, 1964)

Shutouts - Most: 21 Knights Breaks record of 18 (Hard Cider, 1962)

Shutouts - Fewest: 3 Cannons Ties record held by several teams

[-Kyle-]

Someone sign some 2 people for me please...I have to go right now and I will be out for the rest of the night.

[Wasp]

Ken Berry, 250K - 1 year
John Buzhardt, 250K - 2 years
Tim Cullen, 750K - 1 year
Barry Moore, 1M - 1 year
Bill White, 500K - 1 year

Looking back at Lew's post, it says I won Bobby Wine, but I never even bid on him. He should go to the Badgers.

[leecemark]

--The Badgers are full up. I'll make Wine one of the 2 players Kyle asked to be added to his roster. Max, you still need 5 by my accounting.

[Wasp]

I looked at my roster and I noticed you're missing Bobby Murcer as one of my players, Mark. Also, if I don't reach 40, all that happens is I get a 250k cut for each roster spot that is left unfilled, correct?

EDIT: Well, seeing as how I don't think anyone else I pick up will help me out much, I am prepared to stay at 36 players. =/

[catcher24]

Max is right. I must have put the STingers down for 500K on both White and Wine (white wine, let's have some Zinfandel:dance). Sorry for the error. Must've been a bad night.

[buppers]

Hey, since I won Wine shouldn't I get to pick which player I drop?

If so, then I drop Wine :)

Have Kennedy as late inning defensive replacement.

Ed

[leecemark]

I looked at my roster and I noticed you're missing Bobby Murcer as one of my players, Mark. Also, if I don't reach 40, all that happens is I get a 250k cut for each roster spot that is left unfilled, correct?

EDIT: Well, seeing as how I don't think anyone else I pick up will help me out much, I am prepared to stay at 36 players. =/

--That is correct. If you are 4 players short you will take a cap penalty of 250K for each vacant spot, lowering your available money for this season to 99M..

[leecemark]

Hey, since I won Wine shouldn't I get to pick which player I drop?

If so, then I drop Wine :)

Have Kennedy as late inning defensive replacement.

Ed

--If you'd prefer Wine I can swap him and Kennedy. I'm more of a beer man myself:).

[catcher24]

I ran off fourteen sims today, using the most recent file Mark sent me, which included just about all of the free agent signings. One huge caveat to bear in mind - these are run using the computer manager's lineups and pitching assignments. Also, the manager preferences are set by the computer manager as well. So although the sims give some idea of how a team might expect to finish, it is a very rough idea. The set of averages can be found at this link (http://www.geocities.com/lougehrig24/autosimstandingsaverages.html) if anyone is interested in looking at them. But having run many test sims in the past, I can say without reservation that having a human set the lineups, pitching assignments and manager tendencies can make a huge difference for the positive. If you have any questions, let me know. At this point the seasons are all saved to an encyclopedia of 14 simmed seasons, so player info is there as well.

The following file is a summary of each team's most wins, fewest wins, finishes, and playoff appearances. I think the strangest season was season number 8. The Hard Cider and Diablos tied for the Cartwright Division with 89 wins each, so one would get into the playoffs even though their record was only the fifth best overall. The Gamblers had their best season with 91 wins, and the fourth best record, yet didn't make the playoffs. There were only five teams who made the playoffs at all - the Knights and Legends all 14 times; the Skipjacks 13 times; the Hard Cider 12 times; and the Diablos 3 times (counting the tie as one each for the Cider and Diablos). Three teams (Cannons, Redbirds, Shoeless Joes) didn't make it any higher than seventh. And things seem to be looking up for the new Badgers; Ed has done some good things with the team, and they finished dead last only once in 14 tries, and never worse than ninth the other 13 times (hey Ed, I've still got some guys to trade if you're interested - Jim Northrup could help you....). And Kyle seems to be doing a good job with the Gamblers, who never finished lower than eighth, and made it as high as fourth. The Legends seem to be headed for their best season yet, as they never won fewer than 101 games, but we'll see...:shhh: Looks like the Hulbert will be the league's strongest division, with both the Legends and Skipjacks doing well, and Ed doing well with the Badgers. The Skipjacks averaged 100 wins (as did the Knights), while the Legends averaged 111.
Things aren't looking so good for the Shoeless Joes and Cannons, who averaged the least number of wins at 69 and 63 respectively. But Joe can probably help his team, whereas if Chris doesn't appear shortly and his team runs on computer manager's instructions, it'll be an ugly season for the Cannons.

Looks like an interesting season. Good luck to all!!

[catcher24]

l
lowering your available money for this season to 99M..

Geez, if he has 99M AVAILABLE, that means he signed 36 players AND took a hit for four others, all for 1M!! Nice going, Max!!:applaud::clapping:gt :rofl: :laugh

[mac195]

The Legends averaged 111 wins? :eek:

I guess your guys are the team to beat this year after all. I'll be gunnin' for ya.

[leecemark]

--I haven't recorded the data from my sims, but I've had similar results - at least where the Legends are concerned. I'd say they are more likely to break the single season win record than to miss the playoffs. Some of the other results were different though. I had the Diablos and Gamblers making the playoffs with some frequency. Not as much as the Legends, Knights, hard Cider and Skipjacks, but more than Lew found. I see the Cannons as quite a bit better than Lew's sims would suggest too. I did enter what I thought to be the best lineups for each team instead of letting the CM make all the decisions though so that would make a difference.

[-Kyle-]

IGamblers had their best season with 91 wins, and the fourth best record, yet didn't make the playoffs.
Argh..:homeplate:

[Erik Bedard]

Hm. One winning season out of twelve. The Gold Sox really don't want to tank this year, at least partially because we don't have any draft picks until the fourth round.

Lew, do you have data on how my pitchers performed? I'm wondering what the problem was, and what I need to go out and fix.

[leecemark]

--Dan, your pitching was anywhere from average to terrible in my sims. Your rotation is a bigger problem than your bullpen. You do have both CYA winners from 67, but unfortunately for you it is in a season where both winners were undeserving. Still if you had 2 more like hem you be pretty good. You don't though and alot of things will have to go right for the Gold Sox to make a serious run this season.

[catcher24]

I did enter what I thought to be the best lineups for each team instead of letting the CM make all the decisions though so that would make a difference.

I personally think having a human manager set everything as opposed to the computer manager makes a world of difference, and everything else being nearly equal is the biggest factor there is. Maybe with averaging 111 wins, I should follow what the computer manager did, but when it had Ollie Brown playing more than Rusty Staub......

Dan, as with everyone's team, your pitchers were all over the place. Jim Perry has a great ERA some sims, and is last in others. In looking quickly at all 14 seasons, it would appear though that Whitey Ford and Cecil Upshaw have more bad seasons than good. Mike McCormick seems to be pretty solid, either in the middle or at the top of the ERA list. Lonborg had about four really decent seasons, but seems to be from the middle to the end in the others. If you want, I could save each Team Pitching season as a separate text file and send them to you. Let me know.

I think the biggest disappointment for the Legends was the performance of rookie pitcher Tom Seaver. He was last or next to last in ERA on my team eight of the 14 seasons, and was no better than middle of the pack the rest of them. The others are all over the place, although Eddie Watt seems to be consistently very good to excellent. We'll know in a little while, though.


I had the Diablos and Gamblers making the playoffs with some frequency.

They were very close several times, being a game or two out. I can see either of them making the playoffs, especially if the computer gives a couple of players career years.

The one season I had 127 wins was a real fluke. It raised the entire average quite a bit. I think my team ERA was 2.70. I don't think that'll happen!

[Erik Bedard]

If you could send me the Team Pitching file for all fourteen seasons, that'd be great. Just send it to bedard_erik@yahoo.com (not my personal account).

[leecemark]

--Locking this thread down now that the free agent signing period is closed. Offseason thread will be closed and replaced by season thread as of midnight (or shortly thereafter) tomorrow.
--Lew, it should be possible for a team to rcord a 2.70 ERA in 1967. The offensive level was significantly higher in all my sims than it actually was in 1967 though. This has been true for most seasons. I think 2 factors are in play. One, the program is based on modern pitcher usage. Most starting pitchers will pitch less than they did in real life and/or be less effective when pushed for those heavy usage levels.
--Two, platooning is more heavily used in the CKL than in real life. Good LH hitters are generally average or worse against LH pitchers. I platoon even a guy like Billy Williams, except in his very best seasons. Tommy Agee is his partner this year and even though he is not nearly as good he is better (alot better in my sims) vs LHP than Williams. Always going for the platoon advantage drives offensive levels up. It is also why LHP in the CKL often have a hard time repeating real life success (of course really great pitchers - say Sandy Koufax - can overcome that).

[J W]

Wow... Don McMahon is a BEAST. Could you imagine how he'd have done if they every used him as a modern-style closer like we do?

Darn you Chris and your $$$ :p