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sflnyc
10-18-2007, 02:30 PM
Yes, I’m starting a picture thread for a couple of the much-maligned cookie cutters (other than Shea Stadium). I’m from NY and love Shea, etc. but we don’t need dozens of threads on NY and other NE stadiums while most of the other parks get ignored. Classic Crosley Field, for example, has only one thread about it with all of 44 responses. Then one hears complaints about NE & East Coast Bias, but then most of the talk on the stadium thread centers in that area. Go figure!

Either way, back on topic…The Cookie Cutters need some love! :rolleyes:

First we have Riverfront Stadium.

First Photo is a 1968 shot of the stadium under construction. Notice all the pilings outside of the stadium which would make up the parking garage that surrounded the stadium.

Second photo is of home plate being taken out of Crosley Field. This is only part of Crosley Field that made it into Riverfront Stadium.

Third photo is of Opening Day against Atlanta on 6.30.70. Johnny Bench and Gary Nolan are taking in the opening festivities along with the crowd of 51,050. Notice that the centerfield scoreboard is not yet completed. Also not yet completed is the centerfield stadium club or suite type seating underneath the upper deck.

Fourth photo is from 2001 (from Ballparks.com) after the outfield seats were removed for the construction of the GABP. On a personal side note, this helped me answer a question that I had as a youth as to what would Shea Stadium hold if it was completely encircled like the other cookie cutters and visa versa. Riverfront – in its Shea empty outfield mode – held about 39,000 compared to Shea’s 56,000. That would mean that Shea would have held roughly 76,000 for baseball and 80,000 for football if it was completely enclosed.

nymdan
10-18-2007, 04:32 PM
Riverfront looked much better when it was cut open during it's last year or two.

Grass didn't hurt, either.

http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/past/cinergymainuse.jpg

JohnCropp
10-18-2007, 04:47 PM
Busch and Riverfront both closed looking much better than they did coming in. Both had natural grass installed and the view beyond the fences beautified. Obviously, the Riverfront partial demolition was due to the new park being opened, but with a little Disney-like magic it probably could have been resurrected just like the Big A, Royals Stadium, and (to a degree) Dodger Stadium.

nymdan
10-18-2007, 05:46 PM
Obviously, the Riverfront partial demolition was due to the new park being opened, but with a little Disney-like magic it probably could have been resurrected just like the Big A, Royals Stadium, and (to a degree) Dodger Stadium.

But those three were all built as baseball-only stadiums.

Sean O
10-18-2007, 09:11 PM
Tell me, is:

http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30608&stc=1&d=1192739393

any worse than GABP? Was it worth several hundred million dollars of Cincinnati/Ohio investment?

Gary Dunaier
10-18-2007, 09:33 PM
we don’t need dozens of threads on NY and other NE stadiums

Yes we do. There's nowhere near enough. :D

while most of the other parks get ignored.

Well that's not right either. We need more threads on all the ballparks. :nod:

JohnCropp
10-18-2007, 10:25 PM
But those three were all built as baseball-only stadiums.

Good call.

PeteU
10-19-2007, 06:24 AM
Tell me, is:

http://baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30608&stc=1&d=1192739393

any worse than GABP? Was it worth several hundred million dollars of Cincinnati/Ohio investment?

I'd still say GABP is still slightly better. The post-2000 Riverfront was basically Shea Stadium on the Ohio. It still has that unnecessarily rounded feel to it that screams multi-purpose cookie cutter, even after the Bengals left, grass was put in, and the chunk of seats was taken out of the outfield.

Stray Cat
10-19-2007, 07:37 AM
Riverfront looked much better when it was cut open during it's last year or two.

Grass didn't hurt, either.

http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/past/cinergymainuse.jpg

We saw a game there when it was like that, the workers had a good view of the game.