my swing

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I have really worked hard at this (with your last comments) and I want to know whats next.

Here are 4 videos, any comments, please.....

*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCc_Y-G22PU#*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXDoP26yYMI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnC5Z0M2XHY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzWt-JxAw4M

Here's the POC of each one.....
If you want to see anymore frames or parts in pics, please tell me....

*latest one*

[Drill]

looks good

widen your stance about 2-3 inches

tell me if you can tell a differance with balance and follow throught

drill

[StraightGrain11]

http://photos.imageevent.com/siggy/hitting/pro/MCabrera2005FLA_SView01.gif LF

[StraightGrain11]

http://photos.imageevent.com/siggy/hitting/pro/MCabrera2005FLA_SView02.gif RF

[StraightGrain11]

Doesn't look like you're uppercutting.

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I have a new video uploading that I think is really good... it looks like the best swing that I've ever got on camera :applaud: ... I hope

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCc_Y-G22PU#

[StraightGrain11]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCc_Y-G22PU#

You used a metal bat, didn't you?

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You used a metal bat, didn't you?

nope not metal =-) Why you ask?

Besides the pm conversation..... straightgrain, you never told me what you thought of the swing... can you tell the differences/ adjustments that I made?

[Drill]

looks good get rid of the wiffle ball bat


You need to cut the grass,,, grin

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looks good get rid of the wiffle ball bat


You need to cut the grass,,, grin

How'd you know it was a whifle ball bat? lol, I have a wood bat that look exactly the same! lol, I was using it to get the muscle memory down with something light, then I'll work my way to a 40 oz bat =-)

Also, on the grass lol, the gardeners don't do a good job do they? They come like once every 2 weeks.

[StraightGrain11]

Because it doesn't almost pull you over on your follow-thru :)

[Drill]

How'd you know it was a whifle ball bat? lol, I have a wood bat that look exactly the same! lol, I was using it to get the muscle memory down with something light, then I'll work my way to a 40 oz bat =-)

Also, on the grass lol, the gardeners don't do a good job do they? They come like once every 2 weeks.



I know the sound of a wiffle ball bat

On the grass, I cut grass the same way...... every two week.


drill

[JackB1]

I have a new video uploading that I think is really good... it looks like the best swing that I've ever got on camera :applaud: ... I hope

You're still over-rotating......that's why you are so off balance on the follow through. You ever see a pro falling over like that after a HR swing?
Also, your arms seem to be too far away from your body...try and keep a tighter circle with your hands to your body. That way your swing will be
more "connected" and not so "armsy". Check that recent Pete Rose analysis for proper hand path.

[StraightGrain11]

You ever see a pro falling over like that after a HR swing?


Umm...Barry Bonds? :)

http://www.tvsquad.com/media/2006/03/Barry-Bonds-rookie-card.jpg http://www.sportstoyshop.com/MLB_Exclusives/Barry-Bonds-Exclusive.jpg http://www.deadspin.com/sports/bondsgiganteshey.jpg
http://www2.raisport.rai.it/news/sport/baseball/200110/09/3bc2e5790047a/bonds1.jpg

:baseball:

[JackB1]

Umm...Barry Bonds? :)


There is a difference between stumbling, almost falling over and just slightly leaning over.
Bonds never looks off balance on a good swing and never over-swings...unlike your boy.

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Jack, I am not saying that I agree with you or disagree with you.... All I know is that I could swing harder and it is still controlled to me.

[JackB1]

Jack, I am not saying that I agree with you or disagree with you.... All I know is that I could swing harder and it is still controlled to me.

Whatever that means? :think:

You really should take everyone's advice here and go get some real lessons from someone who isn't afraid to be straight with you. Posting a new swing every other day isn't going to get you anywhere.

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Whatever that means? :think:

You really should take everyone's advice here and go get some real lessons from someone who isn't afraid to be straight with you. Posting a new swing every other day isn't going to get you anywhere.

I'm walking after I hit.... I landed on my back foot, then I turned around.. play the rest of the video. Also, I havn't posed a vid for like a month.

Out of curiosity, what am I doing, leaning or stumbling?

[StraightGrain11]

There is a difference between stumbling, almost falling over and just slightly leaning over.
Bonds never looks off balance on a good swing and never over-swings...unlike your boy.

I'm going to guess it has alot to do with the lack of weight in the wiffle ball bat. When your body is used to counter-weighting the effects of a normal bat, switching to something like a wiffle ball bat will be sure to throw you off.

[StraightGrain11]

Whatever that means? :think:

You really should take everyone's advice here and go get some real lessons from someone who isn't afraid to be straight with you. Posting a new swing every other day isn't going to get you anywhere.

You think I'm not being straight with him?

[Drill]

If you still find yourself falling over or lossing balance try what I said earlier in this thread. Widen your stance about 2-3 inches


drill

[StraightGrain11]

This may give you some idea of how decent your swing really is....however, notice the difference in hand position (in the top two; your's are just slightly behind - dragging; Hint: keep them closer to your body as you attack the ball)...
(In the bottom one(s), Konerko hasn't made contact yet). :) What do you think?

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This may give you some idea of how decent your swing really is....however, notice the difference in hand position (in the top two; your's are just slightly behind - dragging; Hint: keep them closer to your body as you attack the ball)...
(In the bottom one(s), Konerko hasn't made contact yet). :) What do you think?

I think I'm pretty close, but I need to get my hands closer. I made some adjustments that I'm going to try to work it out for a while, then put it in a video. I Think I got it better. I thought of some things that might help me by watching the indians red sox games. I especially learned stuff from Manny, and Victor Martinez.

[Jon Doyle]

I hope you aren't doing much, if any, of your practice with the wiffle bat. Doing so won't translate to a metal or wood bat and may be causing you to develop poor habits. If you need to hit a wiffle ball fine, but use a wood bat in practice.

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I hope you aren't doing much, if any, of your practice with the wiffle bat. Doing so won't translate to a metal or wood bat and may be causing you to develop poor habits. If you need to hit a wiffle ball fine, but use a wood bat in practice.

Ok.......... I realized that I was stupid for doing it, so I put the whiffle ball bat away for a while...

I read somehwere once that when you are working on your swing, you need to use a light bat, because it is better for muscle memory. Is that true (that was directed to anyone, not just john)?

[Jake Patterson]

Ok.......... I realized that I was stupid for doing it, so I put the whiffle ball bat away for a while...

I read somehwere once that when you are working on your swing, you need to use a light bat, because it is better for muscle memory. Is that true (that was directed to anyone, not just john)?

A "lighter" bat maybe. A whiffle ball bat absolutely not.

[Jon Doyle]

Agreed with Jake. A bit lighter is fine for bat speed, but as I mentioned in another post if you're using a bat app. 15% heavier or lighter than your game weight your mechanics will be different.

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here is a new video......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEcnonIn-6Q

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heres what he said..... does he know what he is talking about?

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which is better.....

1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEcnonIn-6Q

or

2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzWt-JxAw4M

[Jake Patterson]

heres what he said, pay attention to the 3rd one..... does he know what he is talking about?
Who is he?

[Drill]

i would immediately tell my pitcher to throw high fast balls to you.

you drop your hands and never would be able to react in time for the high fast balls.



drill

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Who is he?

Some guy who commented on you tube....

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i would immediately tell my pitcher to throw high fast balls to you.

you drop your hands and never would be able to react in time for the high fast balls.



drill

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[Chris O'Leary]

here is a new video......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEcnonIn-6Q

Some thoughts...

1. I see references to your disconnecting. This is because the tee is too far out in front of you. The ball needs to be at your front heel, not way out in front of your front toe. This will give you a more realistic swing.

2. Your hip rotation looks good.

3. It's hard to say much else without slow motion.

[Xavier&Trin...]

i would immediately tell my pitcher to throw high fast balls to you.

you drop your hands and never would be able to react in time for the high fast balls.



drill

nonsense. his hands are plenty high, and high fastballs are balls.

[Drill]

nonsense. his hands are plenty high, and high fastballs are balls.

high in the strike zone sorry i do need to explain things.

his hands drop

unless he is very stronge it would make sense that it would take a split second away

hand down hand go back up --- hope you can understand my thoughts

It cost me some money to learn this. For you its free.

Watch some high speed videos of High hand that drop at this level and you will see what I am talking about


respectfully yours,

drill

[JackB1]

I agree with the others. Stop trying to emulate Albert Pujols. You have a completely different body type than him. What works for him, may not work for you. You hold your hands too high and take too long to drop them into the swing plane. Take some movement out of your preswing motions. Also, Chris is right.....you have the tee way to far out in front of you...move it in so you hit the ball off your front foot when you stride. Also, in your stance, have your weight more 50/50. You seem to already be mostly on your back leg and you have your front foot already "reaching" out. Get into a stance like you are guarding someone in basketball.

[StraightGrain11]

I agree with the others. Stop trying to emulate Albert Pujols. You have a completely different body type than him. What works for him, may not work for you. You hold your hands too high and take too long to drop them into the swing plane. Take some movement out of your preswing motions. Also, Chris is right.....you have the tee way to far out in front of you...move it in so you hit the ball off your front foot when you stride. Also, in your stance, have your weight more 50/50. You seem to already be mostly on your back leg and you have your front foot already "reaching" out. Get into a stance like you are guarding someone in basketball.

Why does he need to have his weight 50/50? You mean a stance like this?
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/5/5d/David_ortiz_designated_hitter.jpg http://farm1.static.flickr.com/64/178939563_0d213aff67_m.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/siggy/hitting/pro2//CBeltransview.gif http://photos.imageevent.com/siggy/hitting/pro2/rhoward2.gif http://photos.imageevent.com/siggy/hitting/pro2/jmauer2.gif http://photos.imageevent.com/siggy/hitting/pro//DOrtiz2002MIN_Double_SView.gif http://photos.imageevent.com/siggy/hitting/pro//MCabrera2005FLA_FView.gif http://photos.imageevent.com/siggy/hitting/pro/tex_12.gif

[JackB1]

Why does he need to have his weight 50/50?

Of course he doesn't HAVE to....it's just what everyone seems to teach as a starting point. Again, he is just copying Pujols instead of doing what is right for him. The bigger issue is to stay balanced from stance to stride to swing to follow through. But if he starts with more weight towards the back, that means there is more weight to carry forward in the stride. As long as his weight goes AGAINST the back leg and not OVER it, that should be fine.

Every swing I see from this kid looks different than the last. He needs to work on things one step at a time in smaller increments. He is just treading water this way, IMO.

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I'm copying albert now, I didn't know that before...

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[QUOTE=Drill;1028918]high in the strike zone sorry i do need to explain things.

unless he is very stronge it would make sense that it would take a split second away

Just throwing this out there.... I'm strong...

[cubsphill]

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Just throwing this out there.... I'm strong...

really? how do you reach that conclusion?

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check pm cubsphill...

[Xavier&Trin...]

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Drill, any ball above the position connor fires from is a ball. Im sorry you spent so much money trying to figure this out.

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What is the purpose of the back elbow in the swing....If you watch holliday, howard, and manny, they all push their back elbow down when they start their swing, what is that?

http://imageevent.com/siggy/hitting/pro?p=11&w=4&c=4&n=0&m=12&s=0&y=1&z=9&l=0

http://imageevent.com/siggy/hitting/pro2?p=31&n=25&m=12&c=4&l=0&w=4&s=0&z=9

Could someone please put theese videos up so you don't have to click on the link, like you see it as you view the thread....

[StraightGrain11]

Of course he doesn't HAVE to....it's just what everyone seems to teach as a starting point. Again, he is just copying Pujols instead of doing what is right for him.
How do you know it's not what's right for him? I truly don't believe he is "copying Pujols;" when he hits off of a tee, he looks more like him because he can afford the "extra" concentration on his mechanics, but when he swings at a live pitch he looks nothing like him.
The bigger issue is to stay balanced from stance to stride to swing to follow through. But if he starts with more weight towards the back, that means there is more weight to carry forward in the stride. As long as his weight goes AGAINST the back leg and not OVER it, that should be fine.


So Big Papi's and Teixeira's bodies move more than Yaz's or Mantle's?

http://photos.imageevent.com/siggy/hitting/pro/DOrtiz2002MIN_Double_SView.gif http://photos.imageevent.com/siggy/hitting/pro/CYastremski1970BOS.gif
http://photos.imageevent.com/siggy/hitting/pro/tex_6.gif http://photos.imageevent.com/siggy/hitting/pro//Mantle.gif

Your weight shift/transfer is determined by the distance/length of your stride - not where your weight "starts."

[Drill]

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Drill, any ball above the position connor fires from is a ball. Im sorry you spent so much money trying to figure this out.

His hand will just naturally go down from that position. And if you throw high in the strike zone he will loose a split second of timing is all I am saying.

love,

drill

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[slugger33]

Why are you trying to copy Pujols? Use your natural stance.

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Why are you trying to copy Pujols? Use your natural stance.

I don't see what you guys are talking about.....

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The only thing that looks like pujols to me is the name on the back of the shirt...... Watch albert, he has his hands sooo far back, nob at pitcher, we is sooo wide, and I'm not very wide at all. Again I'm wearing a allstar game shirt of pujols, that doesn't meen I think I'm pujols. I wish my swing was like pujols, because that would meen my swing is nice, but what I see is not pujols!

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Someone please put of some video of pujol's entire swing.... hands back, etc... hands back to finish.

[Jake Patterson]

Someone please put of some video of pujol's entire swing.... hands back, etc... hands back to finish.

Try this:
http://imageevent.com/siggy/hitting/pro?p=4&n=1&m=12&c=4&l=0&w=4&s=0&z=9

Compliments of Siggy

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Try this:
http://imageevent.com/siggy/hitting/pro?p=4&n=1&m=12&c=4&l=0&w=4&s=0&z=9

Compliments of Siggy

That one isn't a really typical swing.... imo, this would be a better example....

http://imageevent.com/siggy/hitting/pro2?p=62&w=4&c=4&n=43&m=12&s=0&y=1&z=9&l=0

[JackB1]

The only thing that looks like pujols to me is the name on the back of the shirt...... Watch albert, he has his hands sooo far back, nob at pitcher, we is sooo wide, and I'm not very wide at all. Again I'm wearing a allstar game shirt of pujols, that doesn't meen I think I'm pujols. I wish my swing was like pujols, because that would meen my swing is nice, but what I see is not pujols!

He's not saying you swing like Pujols, he's saying you are "trying" to copy him with your STANCE and I agree. Did you forget about the whole "Who does my swing look like" thread?

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He's not saying you swing like Pujols, he's saying you are "trying" to copy him with your STANCE and I agree. Did you forget about the whole "Who does my swing look like" thread?

So what I am getting at here is that since somehow some of you think part of my swing looks like pujold (when I had absolutely no idea of this), you think I should change this because it's not my natural stance.... when I came up with it naturally on my own?