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Doctor Zizmor

09-28-2007, 08:40 AM

"The Phillies are the team to beat in the NL East"

Looks like he was dead on.

Erik Bedard

09-28-2007, 09:42 AM

Not really. The Mets were the team to beat just about all season, and the Phillies may end up beating them.

geezer

09-28-2007, 10:15 AM

The Phillies are just the Mets' daddy, period.

plask_stirlac

09-29-2007, 12:38 AM

Not really. The Mets were the team to beat just about all season, and the Phillies may end up beating them.

Hmm. It's reciprocal, the Mets obviously needed to "beat" Philly head-to-head or indirectly and it hasn't happened.

Hey, maybe it's the Nationals, beat them in September or go home. :o

Erik Bedard

09-29-2007, 08:26 AM

Well, in a race, the one to beat is the one who's in front the whole way, in other words, you have to beat them in order to win. The Phillies weren't that team up until yesterday.

cosmo34

09-29-2007, 02:32 PM

No he wasn't "dead on". The Mets choke had something more to do with it than the Phillies being the "team to beat".

plask_stirlac

09-29-2007, 05:30 PM

So?

I think it's pretty cool how he predicted the Phillies would be the team, even with their past, and how Rollins, Utley, Howard, Burrell, and Howard came up big because that pitching staff hasn't besides Hamels and 20 Kendrick starts. Helms and Ruiz have had really bad years, Freddy Garcia has been a mega-bust, Eaton as well (bailed out to 10-9!), etc.

metfan13

09-29-2007, 08:44 PM

And maybe people are talking a little too soon. It's not over yet.

STLCards2

09-29-2007, 09:40 PM

And maybe people are talking a little too soon. It's not over yet.

I'd hardly call Rollins a "prophet." Every week in sports one or two load-mouths guarantee a win or make a bold prediction. Every once in while one turns out right. Reminds me of my mother-in-law (who is really the best mom-in-law ever). Every year she guarentees the Cardinals will win the World Series. When it happened after 25 years of false guarantees, she tells everybody how prophetic she is. Plus, as somebody mentioed, the Mets are still in good shape.

AutographCollector

09-29-2007, 09:49 PM

"The Phillies are the team to beat in the NL East"

Looks like he was dead on.

He wasn't dead on. He was just ticked off in the beginning of the season and was talking trash.

If they were the team to beat this yr in the NL East they would have ran away with the division. And the Phillies are currently... tied for first? Yep... they are a tough team. :blah:

Stray Cat

09-30-2007, 06:48 AM

Right or wrong, he's the type of player I'd want on my team. :thumbsup:

TonyStarks

09-30-2007, 07:24 PM

Right or wrong, he's the type of player I'd want on my team. :thumbsup:

Co-Sign.

Jimmy Rollins is a player's player!
The guy's got game....oh and he seems to be able to predict the future too. :D

ChrisLDuncan

09-30-2007, 07:44 PM

J-Roll may be the MVP of the league, either him or Holliday (if they make the playoffs) IMO.

ChrisLDuncan

09-30-2007, 07:46 PM

He wasn't dead on. He was just ticked off in the beginning of the season and was talking trash.

If they were the team to beat this yr in the NL East they would have ran away with the division. And the Phillies are currently... tied for first? Yep... they are a tough team. :blah:

Perhaps if the Mets beat the Phillies more often they'd be in first place :baseball: He was right though, they ended up winning the division fair and square. He's a great player plain and simple.

Old Sweater

09-30-2007, 08:46 PM

"The Phillies are the team to beat in the NL East"

Looks like he was dead on.

IMO, 29 other idiots could have said the same thing if they where stupid enough and 5 more morons could have been right. Great player with a big mouth just got lucky. It's not like what Joe Namath did or Ali when they went into a championship as heavey underdogs and won.

sflnyc

10-01-2007, 09:25 AM

Been noticing a lot of the haterade towards Jimmy Rollins recently in many places.

Sounds to me like bitter people who are upset that he was right. He was crucified back during Spring Training and in the early part of the season by fans, etc. who here laughing their heads off.

Now that he turned out to be right, those same people have to belittle the accomplishments of him and his team like sore losers. Give credit where credit is due. The season is a 162-game marathon, not 100 games or 154 games (like my Mets apparently thought). The fact the Mets were in first place basically all season until Friday night is nice but does nothing to make up for the dissapointment of staying home in October. That's like fans of a team that loses by game ending field goal in a football game saying "yeah you may have won, but we led the game for 59 minutes" Riiiight.

The Phillies won the division just as much as the Mets lost it. I'm guessing then that the 1978 Yankees to use an example, didn't really "earn" that WS ring because the Red Sox gave it to them.

Erik Bedard

10-01-2007, 09:39 AM

I'm not saying the Phillies didn't earn the division title. The Mets played well all season, and they stumbled a little towards the end, and the Phillies were able to capitalize, and they won when they needed to. They definitely earned the division title. The Cubs, on the other hand, are stumbling into the playoffs, and won the division largely because the Brewers played even worse down the stretch. Basically, the Phillies won and the Mets lost, and the Brewers lost and the Cubs didn't.

As I've said earlier in this thread, he wasn't exactly right. If he'd said "We're going to win the NL East", then he would have been exactly right. But the Mets were out in front until the last week of the season, meaning that they were the team to beat.

GiambiJuice

10-01-2007, 09:47 AM

The Mets played well all season, and they stumbled a little towards the end...

That's the understatement of the century.

plask_stirlac

10-01-2007, 03:04 PM

IMO, 29 other idiots could have said the same thing if they where stupid enough and 5 more morons could have been right. Great player with a big mouth just got lucky. It's not like what Joe Namath did or Ali when they went into a championship as heavey underdogs and won.

No, he wanted the Phillies to win the NL East, so he did something about it. He stepped up for 162 games, improved from last year (as he has since 2003), and outperformed Reyes and Hanley Ramirez all things included, since Hanley fielded poorly.

This is a big, big effort. It's about as dominant as a .344 OBP guy (in this scoring environment) could be. That's pretty much the only downside, though... defense, check, extra-bases power, double-check, health, triple-check; clutch, check; attitude, check. I usually think "great leadoff SS but what about the OBP?" But he's really bringing the power part of the game, pretty much every SS has a low OBP.

Stray Cat

10-01-2007, 03:49 PM