Who is your 2007 AL MVP?

[Mattingly]

Please vote for your 2007 AL MVP candidates.

[geezer]

Rather this thread should be named, who will finish behind A-Rod and Magglio for third place in the AL MVP voting, because A-Rod will win it unanimously.

[hudsonharden]

I think considering his salary and the fact that he wasn't even on the starting lineup on Opening Day, you have to give the award to Jack Cust.



Just Kidding. It's A-Rod by a mile.

[KCGHOST]

Ordonez had a magnificent year and it isn't quite good enough to catch Arod.

[TonyStarks]

ARod should run away with this Award.

Heyyyy...why isn't the voting public???

[ChrisLDuncan]

I think Jorgie should be added.

[skyking162]

I think Jorgie should be added.

I agree. Posada's 3rd on my ballot. Polls like this need to include everyone under the sun.

[geezer]

Also a candidate that deserves consideration in the voting process, Mike Lowell.

[philkid3]

Yawn. I'm a sheep.

[philkid3]

Personal Ballot

1) Alex Rodriguez
2) Magglio Ordonez
3) Curtis Granderson
4) Jorge Posada
5) David Ortiz
6) Fausto Carmona
7) C.C. Sabbathia
8) Carlos Pena
9) Ichiro Suzuki
10) Vladimir Guerrero

[ChrisLDuncan]

Alex Rodriguez
Magglio Ordonez
Jorge Posada
Mike Lowell
CC Sabathia
Curtis Granderson
Carlos Pena
David Ortiz
Ichiro Suzuki
Vladimir Guerrero


That would probably be my ballot.

[Senor Octobre]

Underrated this season (probably because he didn't hit 50 homers) has been David Ortiz. I'd put him over Magglio Ordonez at this point, behind only Rodriguez. He's hit 35+ homeruns, 50+ doubles, an ops+ of like 175. Off the top of my head I think he has more BB's than K's. If you're in to average he's hitting .333 and (off the top of my head, again) he may be the AL OBP champ. The Sox division title only betters his case. If he actually played a position I'd take him over A-rod, but to A-Rod's credit he's had a great season as well (at third base yet).

[ChrisLDuncan]

Underrated this season (probably because he didn't hit 50 homers) has been David Ortiz. I'd put him over Magglio Ordonez at this point, behind only Rodriguez. He's hit 35+ homeruns, 50+ doubles, an ops+ of like 175. Off the top of my head I think he has more BB's than K's. If you're in to average he's hitting .333 and (off the top of my head, again) he may be the AL OBP champ. The Sox division title only betters his case. If he actually played a position I'd take him over A-rod, but to A-Rod's credit he's had a great season as well (at third base yet).

As far as runs created goes, Ortiz is behind A-Rod and only slightly ahead of Ordonez. Ortiz has a RC of 152, A-Rod of 161, and Mags of 148. I agree though Ortiz isn't getting his due credit.

[skyking162]

Big Papi's been underrated as a hitter. But as a DH he loses a lot of value. Think about it -- the Red Sox would rather have Manny play the field than Ortiz. Manny's awful, costing the Sox like 30 runs. That has to be Ortiz's DH penalty.

[ChrisLDuncan]

Big Papi's been underrated as a hitter. But as a DH he loses a lot of value. Think about it -- the Red Sox would rather have Manny play the field than Ortiz. Manny's awful, costing the Sox like 30 runs. That has to be Ortiz's DH penalty.

That and Mike Lowell is probably the best player on that team right now.

[skyking162]

Lowell actually comes out at -5 runs at 3B. How about Youk, +9 at 1B? Numbers from Hardball Times' zone rating data. No arm rating or double-plays involved.

Last 1B 2B 3B CF LF RF SS Total
Youk 9 1 10
Cora -1 5 1 5
Crisp 3 3
Lugo 2 2
Bailey 1 1
Ellsbur 2 -1 1
Kielty -1 0 -1
Murphy 0 -1 -1
Moss -1 -1
Ortiz -2 -2
Lowell -4 -4
Pedroia -5 -5
Hinske -4 -2 -1 -7
Drew -2 -8 -10
Pena -2 -8 -2 -11
Ramirez -31 -31
Total 3 0 -3 1 -45 -11 3 -51

[cardsfanatic]

A-Rod and it's not even close.

[philkid3]

Lowell actually comes out at -5 runs at 3B. How about Youk, +9 at 1B? Numbers from Hardball Times' zone rating data. No arm rating or double-plays involved.

Last 1B 2B 3B CF LF RF SS Total
Youk 9 1 10
Cora -1 5 1 5
Crisp 3 3
Lugo 2 2
Bailey 1 1
Ellsbur 2 -1 1
Kielty -1 0 -1
Murphy 0 -1 -1
Moss -1 -1
Ortiz -2 -2
Lowell -4 -4
Pedroia -5 -5
Hinske -4 -2 -1 -7
Drew -2 -8 -10
Pena -2 -8 -2 -11
Ramirez -31 -31
Total 3 0 -3 1 -45 -11 3 -51

I thought I spent alot of time at THT, but where does this come from?

[Erik Bedard]

A-Rod





Magglio








Ortiz



Everybody else

[skyking162]

I thought I spent alot of time at THT, but where does this come from?

Some manipulation of their data, as outlined by Justin here:
http://jinaz-reds.blogspot.com/2007/03/how-should-we-calculate-zone-rating.html

There are obviously some issues and the system will miss on some players, but it's pretty good for not using play by play data.

[Big_Mac]

a-rod by a mile. my top five are:

a-rod
ordonez
granderson
posada
ortiz

[slugger33]

Most of A-Rod's RBI were when the team didn't need them.

[philkid3]

Most of A-Rod's RBI were when the team didn't need them.

Oh please, you can't be serious with that.

[Edgartohof]

Oh please, you can't be serious with that.

Don't be too sure, there are a lot of not so smart people out there who probably DO think that.

[AznInvasion]

AROD's numbers are so friggin astronomical that a blind man would vote for him.

[Zagi-CRO]

157.76 Rating HR RBI R AVG
Alex Rodriguez 5.30 54 156 143 0.314
Magglio Ordonez 4.65 28 139 117 0.363
David Ortiz 4.36 35 117 116 0.332
Carlos Pena 4.29 46 121 99 0.282
Vlad Guerrero 4.10 27 125 89 0.324
Mike Lowell 3.86 21 120 79 0.324
Nick Markakis 3.80 23 112 97 0.300
Torii Hunter 3.76 28 107 94 0.287
Victor Martinez 3.75 25 114 78 0.301
Justin Morneau 3.73 31 111 84 0.271


AROD is a monster.
Ordonez then Ortiz + Pena + Guerrero... and others...

[Doctor Zizmor]

Look, Im Guiseppe Franco and Im telling you that A-Rod will be unanimous. Im not going to put my name on the line and be wrong. Im Guiseppe Franco, now stop the daily regimens. I dont own the company.

[sflnyc]

I say A-Rod, because he simply has had the best statistical season of any player this year, and because he help the Yankees not drown when they were struggling earlier in the year.

[DodgerBlue81]

Anyone who doesn't vote for A-Rod shouldn't be allowed to vote again.

[DiMag4Life]

1)A-Rod











2)Magglio Ordonez
3)Vladimir Guerrero


Not even up for consideration. Take away all his game winning hits and homers, which I can't even count on one hand, his staggering RISP numbers (.323/.460/.678, 18 homers, 77 RBI's in 177 AB's,) then yes he hasn't been getting the big hits.:laugh