1966-67 Offseason Thread

[leecemark]

--Sorry Mac, no time to bask in your glory:laugh . Actually, the first deadline is long enough away that nobody needs to be sweating next season quite yet, but for those who want to start working some deals and planning ahead, here is the place to do it.
--The attached roster file no doubt has some errors. Any player on your roster who did not appear in the majors in 1967 will be missing. Let me know if you have anyone in that situation and I'll create that player to fill the roster spot. There are also going to be some players with expired contracts still listed on rosters. Please list those players along with your non-tenders. If you spot any other problems with your team let me know about those.
--The deadline for non-tendering any players you don't want for 1967 will be midnight EST on Friday October 19. That is also the deadline for buying out any multi-year deals. The buyout on those is half the remaining value of the contract.
--As usual most players who appeared in a CKL game in 1966 will be due a 250K raise. This does not apply to franchise players, players on multi-year deals or to players from the rookie class of 1964. Franchise players, of course, have lifetime (or as long as they remain with their original team) contracts at 12M. Players on multi-year deals keep that salary for the life of the deal. All players drafted in 1964 get their salary doubled this season, regardless of whether they played in 1966 or not.
--The tenative schedule for the rookie draft is 8PM EST on 26 Oct. The tenative schedule for the free agent auction is 8PM EST on 02 November. If these dates are going to be a problem for anyone, please let me know as soon as possible and we'll try and find another time. If these dates work Opening Day for 1967 would be 09 November.
--The other two attachements are lists of free agent batters and pitchers. This will be incomplete. As noted above, some players with expired contracts have not yet been removed from the previous team's roster. It also includes all the 1967 debut players who will be available in the rookie draft, rather than up for free agent auction. I've got no way to sort those out, so everyone needs to use their own sources to identify the hot prospects for the rookie draft.

[leecemark]

--This is a tenative list of our last group of forced free agents. Please let me know if I've made any errors on who occupies the slot for your team.
1) Knights: Bob Allison*
2/3) Hard Cider: Leon Wagner
2/3) Legends: Jake Gibbs*
4) Skipjacks: Jim Fregosi
5) Diablos: [b]Willie Stargell[/B
6) Cannons: Steve Barber
7) Gamblers: Wes Covington (who actually retires)
8) Shoeless Joes: Jimmy Hall
9) Redbirds: Vic Davalillo
10) Pirates: Marcelino Lopez
11) Gold Sox: Clay Dalrymple
12) Stingers: Charley Smith
* multi-year contract player who must be traded or exposed to waivers, rather than go though free agency.
--Not a very deep crop. Allison and Gibbs are on multi-year deals and will be traded or waived rather than be free agents. Stargell and Fregosi are the stars of the free agent crop. 1967 NL CYA winner Mike McCormick's contract is expired and he will be invited to the PFA. Willie Davis' contractis also expired and he may merit an invite. It doesn't look like this will be an offseason where having alot of money to spend will get you very far though.

Bold = PFA

[leecemark]

) Stingers: 1st rounder to Legends
2) Gold Sox: 2nd and 3rd to Hard Cider
3) Pirates: 1st to Redbirds, 2nd to Hard Cider (sorry Ed )
4) Redbirds
5) Shoeless Joes: 1st to Gamblers
6) Gamblers: 1st to Shoeless Joes
7) Cannons: 1st and 2nd to Legends, 4th to Gold Sox
8) Diablos
9) Skipjacks
10) Legends
11) Hard Cider: 1st to Legends, 2nd to Gold Sox
12) Knights: (but looking to trade up )
--The Legends have 5 picks, including the 1st overall, in what looks to be the richest rookie crop in CKL history. The Redbirds may be in the best position though with the 3rd and 4th picks likely to net them a pair of future Hall of Famers.
--Please let me know as soon as possible if I've missed any draft pick trades.

[leecemark]

--Outfielder Bob Allision has demanded a trade and the Knights hope to accomodate him. Allison was our big signing last offseason, but a spring training injury and the emergence of young outfielders Tommy Agee and Adolpho Phillips pushed him into a backup role. Allison still has some good baseball left in him though. He returned to full time duty and posted OPS+ of 135 and 130 in 67-68 in real life. I'd be looking to move up in this draft or acquire future picks for Allison. A top flight relief pitcher would also be of interest.
--We are also are deep in quality infielders. 3B Don Wert and 2B Horace Clarke are both full time players with VG gloves and 93 OPS+ in 1967. Clarke also contributes EX speed. Neither is a likely All Star, but both are solid players at a reasonable price if you've got an IF hole to fill. We are deep in relievers too and Lindy McDaniel, or Casey Cox could be had in the right deal. Actually, anybody could be had in the right deal:waving .

[mac195]

--Sorry Mac, no time to bask in your glory:laugh . Actually, the first deadline is long enough away that nobody needs to be sweating next season quite yet, but for those who want to start working some deals ...


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Sweating... deadlines... :laugh

Deals... leave a message, and I'll try to get back to you in a few days.

[leecemark]

Salaries updated for 1967

Retired: Del Crandell
Non-tendered: Dick Green and Vern Law

Current roster
25 man
C: Tim McCarver (1.75m, 61 draft)
1B: Wes Parker (250K, 64 draft) -AAA
2B: Dick McAuliffe (4.50, 61 draft)
3B: Don Wert (1.25M, 63 draft/trade with Shoeless Joes)
SS: Leo Cardenas (3.50m, 61 draft)
CF: Willie Mays (12m, franchise player)
LF: Billy Williams (12.75M, 61 draft, trade with Redbirds)
RF: Adolpho Phillips (500K, 64 draft)
IF: Horace Clarke (500K, 1965 draft/trade with Redbirds)
OF: Lee Maye (1.50M, 61 draft)
C: Don Pavletich (750K, 61 draft/trade with Hard Cider)
LF: Tommy Agee (750K, 1963 draft/trade with Redbirds)
Utl: Cesar Tovar (750K, 65 draft)
IF: Jose Pagan (250K, FA65-67) - AAA
SP: Gary Peters (4.75m, 61 draft)
SP: Juan Marichal (11.25M, 61 draft/trade with Pirates)
SP: Sonny Seibert (2.50m, 64 draft)
SP: Mel Queen (500K, 64 draft) - A
SP: Jim McGlothlin (250K, 65 draft)
LHSU: Hank Aguirre (2.50M, 61 draft/trade with Redbirds)
LM: John Wyatt (1.25M, 61 draft/trade with Pirates)
RHSU: Jack Aker (1M, 64 draft)
CL: Lindy McDaniel (2.50M, 61 draft/trade with Skipjacks)
RP: Don Nottebart (1.25M, 61 draft )
RP: Gerry Arrigo (250K, 65-67)
RP: Casey Cox (500K, 66 draft)

PFA/trade demand: Bob Allison (12.5M, FA66-68)

Farm hands
RP: Tug McGraw (250K, 65 draft) - AA
RP: John Purdin (500K, 64 draft) - AA
SP: Bobby Bolin (2.50, 61 draft) - AAA
SP: Larry Dierker (1M, 64 draft) -AAA
SP: Woody Fryman (500K, 66 draft) - AAA
1B: Rich Reese (5000K, 64 draft) - A
3B: Sal Bando (1M, 66 draft) - A
1B: Mike Epstein (250K, 66 draft)
C: Ken Suarez (250K, 66 draft) - A


78.25M for 36 players

[buppers]

And I thought I had the 3rd overall pick. That sucks :(

Well, time to start planning for 1968 draft :)

Will get up to speed this weekend.

Ed

[J W]

First, congrats to Mac for another champioship. Break out the champaigne buddy! And, it looks like the Hard Cider will be, well, hard to beat for several years yet.

Second, I echo Mac's comment w/ Lew, he's the VIP member under Mark here... and it looks like his teams are finally going to start living up to his expectations.

Third, is that the Hard Cider owner's wife, Mac? I don't care how good his life is, he married up son! :D

Fourth, I'm going to use aaaaaall the time given to me to figure out who to give up. In the mean time, we are open to any and all discussion as usual. I'm anticipating 1968 to be the last of our string of seasons as "buyers". So, we're looking to improve our team this season and/or next season, and we're willing to give up future stars and/or draft picks. We are looking for:

- A starting shortstop
- #2-#4 starting pitching (short-term)
- Left-handed relief

Finally, we must say goodbye to Sandy Koufax; check out the DMCKL Encyclopedia page to see how his '61-'66 peak translated to our condensed league. Koufax became the first pitcher to 100 wins in '66; several more (including the astonishing Camilo Pascual) look to joing the club in '67. To me, it looks like 150 wins will be a very exclusive club if we play the 70s out. Koufax's career ERA will also be hard to beat... and by playing for teams like the Hard Cider and Skipjacks, I would venture to say he'll have the highest win% among all 100-game winners.

[catcher24]

1. Mark beat me to posting my available players - but then, he IS the one who starts the threads!:laugh

2. Mac has posted what is undoubtedly the best picture to appear in this entire sub-forum. If that's the Hard Cider team mascot, I'm selling the Legends and becoming the Hard Cider bat boy!!:clapping :nod:

3. Second, I echo Mac's comment w/ Lew, he's the VIP member under Mark here

Thanks, JW, I appreciate the nice comment - and I love being a VIP!:laugh :waving :dance

Now down to business. The following players are available from the Legends this off season. I am willing to package more than one into an offer, and am also willing to include Mac's and/or my first rounder this year. I am looking to move up in this year's draft, or for high considerations in a future draft (what a surprise, huh?). All numbers listed are OPS+ for batters, ERA+ for pitchers.

Dick Dietz, Catcher: 105 as a part timer in 67, then 122, 120, 153, 131. If you need a catcher, you could do a lot worse.
Jake Gibbs, catcher: Will have to be traded or waived; it won't take much to get him. Salary is 4.25M.
Gene Oliver, catcher: 90 in 67, then contract is up. Salary is 2.25M.
Bob Saverine, utility: Only a 75 in 67, then a FA. Salary is 4.25M.
Jim Northrup, OF: OPS+ of 111, 129, 137 then becomes a FA. Salary of 2.5M.
Felipe Alou, OF: 108, 141, 86, 89, 115, 117. Original 1961 player, keep him as long as you wish. Salary is 4.5M.
Art Shamsky, OF: 56, 107, 139, 115 then a FA. Salary is 750K.
Ollie Brown, OF:103, 64, 108, 121 then a FA. Salary is 500K.
Ted Uhlaender, OF: 89, 112, 90, 92. 250K - a real bargain if you need a fourth OFer.
Mike Shannon, OF/3B: 93, 113 then a FA. 10.25M.

John "Blue Moon" Odom,P: 64/1.56 WHIP in 67, then two very decent seasons - 115/1.20 and 118/1.26. 500K
Jim Nash, P: Innings eater in 67 with 222 IP, 85/1.29, then a sparkling season in 68 with 229 IP, 124/1.05, 3 to 1 K/BB ratio. 500K
Ron Kline, RP: 92/1.20, then a great season in 68 with 174/1.11 - then pretty much finished. 2.5M
Dan Osinski, RP: 137/1.18 in 67 than a FA. 1.5M
Grant Jackson, P: Reliever in 67 and 68, starter in 69 and 70. 250K
Dave Baldwin, RP: Decent season in 67 with 186/1.06, then not a whole lot. 250K

If there's a player not listed, that doesn't mean he is not available, so feel free to make an offer.

[catcher24]

The contracts of Joe Moeller and Chris Zachary expired at the end of 1966 and both will be free agents. The remaining players:

POSITION SALARY

CATCHER
Bill Freehan $4,500,000
Jake Gibbs* $4,250,000
Dick Dietz $500,000
Gene Oliver $2,250,000

FIRST BASE
Willie McCovey* $10,500,000

SECOND BASE
Joe Morgan* $1,250,000
Bob Saverine# $4,250,000

THIRD BASE
Ron Santo $12,000,000
Jim Davenport $2,000,000

SHORTSTOP
Ron Hansen $250,000
Gene Alley $750,000

LEFT FIELD
Jim Northrup* $2,500,000
Art Shamsky* $750,000
Ted Uhlaender* $250,000

CENTER FIELD
Felipe Alou $4,500,000
Reggie Smith# $1,000,000
Rick Monday* $750,000

RIGHT FIELD
Rusty Staub* $1,250,000
Mike Shannon $10,250,000
Ollie Brown $500,000

STARTERS
Luis Tiant $3,000,000
Tommy John* $2,250,000
Jim Nash $500,000
Jack Fisher $1,250,000
Fergie Jenkins $1,250,000
Al Downing* $2,000,000

RELIEVERS
Ted Abernathy $1,500,000
Bob Locker $750,000
Ron Kline $2,500,000
Dan Osinski $1,500,000
Phil Regan $2,000,000
Eddie Watt $750,000
Dave Baldwin $250,000
Blue Moon Odom $500,000
Cecil Upshaw $250,000
Bill Hands $1,250,000
Grant Jackson* $250,000
Bill Monbouquette $4,250,000

TOTAL SALARY: 90.25M

[mac195]

First, congrats to Mac for another champioship. Break out the champaigne buddy! And, it looks like the Hard Cider will be, well, hard to beat for several years yet.

Second, I echo Mac's comment w/ Lew, he's the VIP member under Mark here... and it looks like his teams are finally going to start living up to his expectations.

Third, is that the Hard Cider owner's wife, Mac? I don't care how good his life is, he married up son! :D

Thanks, JW. No, that picture is just the most appealing one I saw while glancing at google images for something to illustrate a paradise-in-the-sun off season break.

[Erik Bedard]

The Gold Sox, in the wake of a horrible offensive season, are pleased to announce that former Gold Sox outfielder Harvey Kuenn will remain with the ballclub as hitting coach.

Gold Sox non-tenders:

Dick Groat
Deron Johnson
Ken Berry
Paul Schaal

Contract expirations:

Don Schwall
Jack Sanford

PFA:

Clay Dalrymple

Retiree:

Harvey Kuenn

Slugging it out was great for a couple years, but after nobody cracks 20 HRs in 1966, it may be time for a move, especially with no real bashers left.

[leecemark]

--Offseason is off to an awfully slow start.

[catcher24]

You know, Mark, I was thinking that myself. It's been unusually quiet. Maybe it's because our season ended almost simultaneously with the real season and our members are caught up in the playoffs? Who knows.
I've now gone deeper into the draftees for this year, and although we have the best "top ender" group ever, the depth appears to me to be seriously lacking. I have my shortest rookie draft list ever! The top picks I have coming will make this an excellent draft for me, but those with one (or none) in the top dozen or so will find the pickings a bit slim, I think.

[leecemark]

--I may not even make a third round pick this year, depending on whether anybody on my list gets overlooked. I have made trade offers to several other owners, but no replies yet. Still more than 2 weeks to the first deadline though and a month left to make deals before we get started again.

[mac195]

Major League
C: Tom Haller (2.25M) '61
C: Jerry May (250K) '65-'67 FA
1B: Norm Cash (10.50M) '61
1B: Jack Hiatt (250K) '64
2B: Ron Hunt (1.25M) '63
2B: Dick Howser (250K) '66-'67 FA
2B: Mike Andrews (500K) '66
SS: Denis Menke (1M) '62
SS: Larry Brown (1.25M) '63
3B: Dick Allen (2.75M) '63
OF: Frank Robinson (12M) franchise
OF: Roger Maris (1.00M) '65-'67 FA
OF: Rick Reichardt (500K) '64
OF: Johnny Callison (5M) '66-'69 FA
SP: Jim Bunning (9.25M) '61
SP: Lee Stange (1.5M) '61
SP: Steve Hargan (500K) '65
SP: Dick Hughes (250K) '66
SP: Larry Jaster (750K) '65
SP: Ken Holtzman (500K) '65
RP: Stu Miller (7.5M) '61
RP: Steve Hamilton (2.00M) '61
RP: Dick Selma (250K) '65
RP: Ron Taylor (1M) '62
Minors
2B: Bill Mazeroski (250K) '65-'67 FA
OF-1B: Ron Fairly (2.5M) '61
OF: Roy White (500K) '65
OF: Steve Whitaker (500K) '66
OF: Len Gabrielson (750K) '66-'68 FA
CF: Russ Synder (1.25M) '61
SP: Pat Jarvis (500K) '66
RP: Billy McCool (1.5M) '64
SP: Luke Walker (250K) '65

33 players / $70.25M

Expired contract:
C: Jerry Zimmerman
OF: Dave Nicholson
OF: Rocky Colavito
C: Smokey Burgess

Non-tendered:
OF: Leon Wagner
SP: Dennis Bennett
SP: Bruce Howard
RP: Bob Humphreys
RP: Pete Cimino

[mac195]

..... never mind.

[leecemark]

--Mac, those moves get you down to 31 players in the database. Who is missing? Surprised to Stu Miller get the axe. He has a pretty good season. Shaving payroll for a mega-signing?

[mac195]

I am shocked to see that av/109 rating for Mike Andrews at SS. Guess he'll be my SS this year, and I'll hold on to Hunt.

P Luke Walker appears to be missing from that roster.

Surprised to Stu Miller get the axe.

Hmmm, maybe I'll change my mind and keep him.

[leecemark]

--That isn't rather biazzare that Andrews is rated better at a position he only had a token appearance at than the one he actually played:think: . He had had 4 chances at SS and booted one of them which I would think would net him a rating of Poor and an astronomical error rating. Good break for you that he is for some reason programmed as a decent defender.
--Walker has been added to your roster (didn't play in 67) getting our numbers to match at 32. You can change your mind on Miller or anybody else up til the non-tender deadline of the 19th.

[baseballPAP]

The Redbirds' free agent will be..........
Vic Davalillo

Also, anyone needing a decent bat on the cheap, let me know, I have several available for something around a 3rd round pick.

[buppers]

I could use several cheap bats. Before dropping anybody, give me a shot.

Don't have a 1st rounder so will consider trading picks for players.

Ed - soon to be renamed Pirates

[J W]

--Offseason is off to an awfully slow start.

For me it's because I've taken the generous break to concentrate more on life things. I'm still here and Beanie Bill has in fact communicated with Knights officials. Mr. Dum just doesn't know about it yet. :p

[leecemark]

--Knights officials don't know it yet either:) . I sent you a PM, but if you sent a response it got lost in cyber space. Please send again. The Knights definately are looking to make a few deals this offseason, with future picks are top priority.

[J W]

With much regret, the Skipjacks will announce SS Jim Fregosi as their PFA. With concentration on the 67-68 seasons, Dean Chance will be too important to let go and the trio of Horlen-McDowell-Chance hopes to be one of, if not the best rotation in the league in 1968.

We have a plethora of right-handed relief as it turns out. We would be willing to part with one or two of these players, plus draft pick(s), for the right package:

- Jack Lamabe
- Frank Linzy
- Claude Raymond
- Minnie Rojas
- Joe Verbanik
- Dooley Womack

Linzy is our scheduled closer and most prized reliever. We are looking for the following, in order of priority:

a) starting pitching
b) decent shortstop
c) left-handed relief

:cap:

[J W]

Skipjacks batting coach Jim "Rainbows" Monahan has taken an executive role in one their minor league programs, the Plaid Sox, and possibly part ownership of the franchise. Jim is very excited to invest back in his roots and looks forward to an ongoing relationship with the Skipjacks.

The Skipjacks are naming former infielder Felix Mantilla their new hitting coach. Reports indicate the Skipjacks' first choice was HR king Jim Gentile; however, Gentile is interested in pursuing a career with the Leecemark Knights, his first DMCKL team and the team for which he broke the single season HR record.

Rumors also state the team has contacted recently retired ace Sandy Koufax about a position with the team... Koufax is apparently not interested and wishes to spend the rest of his life in seclusion.

Other notes:
- 3B coach Jurgis "Windmill" Henneman has decided to step down after three decades in baseball. Jurgis was a minor-league mainstay and a member of the Skipjacks '64 championship team. Henneman will be replaced by former Skipjack Don Blasingame. Henneman: "Now I can finally start that ostrich farm I've wanted to try. It's the wave of the future--I'm tellin you."

- Bullpen coach Al "That Guy" Kzrcevski has been named by Monahan as the new manager for the Plaid Sox. He said something no one remembers, as usual and will be replaced by former Skipjack Ed Roebuck.

[J W]

The Skipjacks will non-tender the folowing:
- Jim Bouton
- Gary Geiger
- Hal Woodeshick

The following players retired after 1966:
- Jim Gentile
- Sandy Koufax

The following are free agents:
- Jim Fregosi (PFA)
- Ossie Chavarria
- Phil Gagliano
- Bill Heath
- Chuck Hiller
- Orlando McFarlane
- Floyd Robinson

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Total Salary (28 players) = 77.5 milliion

[leecemark]

--JW, I show only 27 players on the Skipjacks after your cuts. Please let me know who is missing.

[J W]

George Mitterwald. He did not play in 1967.

[catcher24]

the trio of Horlen-McDowell-Chance hopes to be one of, if not the best rotation in the league in 1968.

We're going to have a hellacious time in the Hulbert in 1968 pitching wise. You have Horlen, McDowell, Chance; Joe will have McLain, Gibson and anyone he might take with his first pick this year - if a pitcher; I'll have Jenkins, Hands, Tiant's greatest season,John's greatest season and ????....... I have a sneaky suspicion that poor Ed (whatever he renames the team) is going to take a beating within the division!

Also, before anyone makes any major deals, please be sure to contact me. I have an abundance of OF'ers and pitching, and will always listen to a proposal. Players I would consider trading include Jim Northrup, Felipe Alou, Art Shamsky, Ollie Brown, Mike Shannon, Blue Moon Odom, Jim Nash, Ron Kline (huge year in relief for 68, then gone) and almost anyone - make an offer.

[catcher24]

Ed, I sent you a PM. Did you receive it?

[Erik Bedard]

The Gold Sox have very few quality players returning (just one returning full-time starter, and two position players), so we are very open to trades.

Main needs (in order):

Starting pitching
First baseman
Outfielders
Relief pitching

[leecemark]

--The Knights can part with at least one of these 3 outfielders; Bob Allison, Tommy Agee or Cesar Tovar. If you're looking for a big bopper Allison has OPS+ of 135/130 the next two years and can play everyday. Agee is cheaper and much better defensively (VG at all 3 spots), but only average with the bat and will be a free agent after this year. He is cheap though (both in salary and what I'd expect in return). Cesar Tovar can hit, field and run and is locked up for 4 more seasons at a reasonable salary (1965 draftee). He can play 2B/3B as well as outfield. Tovar would not come cheaply though.

[leecemark]

--None of this really has anything to do with my team, but maybe it will simulate some trading activity. There are several teams in dire need of innings eating starters. The are several others who have an excess of those. The Stingers have 7 pitchers with at least 180 IP in 1967. The Shoeless Joes have 9 with at least 170. The Gamblers have 7 with over 200. All three of those teams have some holes I expect they'd give up pitching to fill. The Diablos have an unusual surpluss of LH relievers- 6 LH pitchers with ERA of 3.26 or less who work enough to be primary LH setup guys for somebody.

[leecemark]

--Knights GM Joe "Smokey" Braithwaite annouced a series of moves to the coaching staff today. Manager Walt Alston has been relieved of his duties and young Earl Weaver has been given the job. Thirdbase coach Dick Williams resigned after being passed over a second year in a row. Firstbase coach Minnie Minoso moves to third and recently retired infielder Junior Gilliam joins the staff as firstbase coach.
--Two other recently retired Knights have taken jobs in the organization. Del Crandell replaces Weaver as manager at AAA Kalamazoo and Jim Gentile has accepted a position as roving hitting instructor.
--Baithwaite had this to say of the moves "we didn't want to make a move in the heat of the moment after the loss to the Skipjacks in last year's divisional series, but there was a real split in the organization between those who wanted to play it safe with minor league vet Walt Alston and those who supported a younger, more fiery manager in Dick Williams or Earl Weaver. If those who wanted a younger man instead of Pop Oldfarte II had been able to agree on their man we would have gone in that direction last year. It does seem unfair to cut Walt loose after he managed us to the league's best record, but our goal is nothing short of a championship each year. We wish him luck and if he doesn't find a mangerial job elsewhere we'd be happy to keep him in the Knights organization."
--"We are happy to have former Knights Gilliam, Gentile and Crandell back in the family. Building a Knights tradition is important to us and Junior and Jim both played a huge part in our early success. Del didn't have a big a role with us as a player but, like the others, he is a great baseball man."

[catcher24]

Firstbase coach Minnie Minoso moves to third and recently retired infielder Junior Gilliam joins the staff as firstbase coach.

You know, that Minoso is faster than I thought! When I saw your post, I was sure I had Minoso as my third base coach, so I checked my roster :lookitup and I do. I had him listed there last year - did you have him listed as first base coach? Which one of us actually has Minnie?:think: :noidea

[leecemark]

--I did have him listed as firstbase coach last year, but since he had the bigger job with you I'll scratch him off my roster. Gilliam to 3B and Gentile to 1B coach for the Knights. Guess I don't pay that much attention to other coaching staffs:blush: .

[jkc32]

--None of this really has anything to do with my team, but maybe it will simulate some trading activity. There are several teams in dire need of innings eating starters. The are several others who have an excess of those. The Stingers have 7 pitchers with at least 180 IP in 1967. The Shoeless Joes have 9 with at least 170. The Gamblers have 7 with over 200. All three of those teams have some holes I expect they'd give up pitching to fill. The Diablos have an unusual surpluss of LH relievers- 6 LH pitchers with ERA of 3.26 or less who work enough to be primary LH setup guys for somebody.

Certainly true for Shoeless. We'll entertain offers on our SPs (except Gibson/McClain). We can use offensive help at nearly every position.

[buppers]

Looking to move some high priced talent to start the rebuilding process.
Available are: Vada Pinson, Chris Short, Hoyt Wilhelm.

In need of 1st rounders for '67 & beyond and any players that can give me PA's and IP's

Ed

[catcher24]

Mark - Probably my fault as well, because I didn't check anyone else's coaching staff, either. You may have actually had him first, so I appreciate your letting me have him. You know, with Minnie, we may use him as a pinch hitter this year or something!:laugh

[buppers]

Since my team is all but dead and buried my new mascot will be The Badger, who hibernates (dead) and lives underground (buried).

I will rename my team (ta da) Buppers Badgers.

I reserve the right to rename my team as I start the long, slow struggle to escape the basement.

As for stadium, I will take what I think has the lowest PF of available parks and move my team to Anaheim.

Ed

[The Dude]

It's with great regret that I have to inform the collective owners of the CKL league that I won't be able to participate this next season. The past 3 days have been the worst 3 days of my life, resulting in the seperation of me and my best friend/girlfriend and the loss of another friend. Added on top of that to my already work load of 5 hours of class M-F and 10 Hours of work on Saturday and 10 on sunday, I just don't think it's fair for my inactivity to disrupt the league, as I don't have the heart for it right now.

If you guys are unable to find another owner to take over, I can do my best to set the team up for next season and take care of as much as I can.

The first 6 seasons of the CKL were great and I loved being able to participate with everyone. You're a great group of guys and I hope the league continues on for a long time, and maybe one day I can try and get back into it when my life resumes a normal path again.

With Great Appreciation for Mark and all of you,
-Wil (Beej) Wasielewski

[leecemark]

--Wil, sorry things aren't going so well for you. Hope you get everything sorted out things look brighter for you before long. Don't worry about the Gamblers. We'll either find someone to handle them, whether that be temporary or permanent. If you find you've got the time and interest again then we'd be happy to have you back be that resuming ownership of the Gamblers or perhaps a 1969 expansion team.
--Good Luck, Mark

[jkc32]

The Joe's release the following players:

Non-Tender
- Bob Bruce

Retired
- Bobby Richardson

Free Agents
- Jimmie Hall (PFA)
- Woody Woodward
- Howie Reed

[leecemark]

--BBF regular "Kyle" has agreed to take over the Gamblers. Kyle applied on the "Interested in Joining Our League" thread awhile back and is an active member in another BBF hosted league. Welcome and Good Luck Kyle. Please feel free to ask plenty of questions. We want to see you get off to a good start.

[-Kyle-]

--BBF regular "Kyle" has agreed to take over the Gamblers. Kyle applied on the "Interested in Joining Our League" thread awhile back and is an active member in another BBF hosted league. Welcome and Good Luck Kyle. Please feel free to ask plenty of questions. We want to see you get off to a good start.

Thanks, I have a whole bunch of questions when I get home from school. :)

[catcher24]

I am very sorry to see Wil have to bow out. He was a very good member of the league and will be missed. I'm also sorry that things are going badly for you now, and will keep you in my prayers. When things turn around, please come back and rejoin us! Best of luck Wil, and God bless!

[catcher24]

And now a big CK welcome to Kyle. I haven't posted very much of late on other threads, so am not really familiar with Kyle other than his postings in our "Interested in Joining" thread. But if Mark vouches for you, that's plenty good enough for me. Welcome aboard, and good luck!

[-Kyle-]

Dang, Dude set me up pretty well for 1967. :)

I would like to state the following people up for a trade:
George Scott (Break out year,
Larry Jackson (SP with a 110 ERA+ in '67, very good starter)
Ken Boyer

Draft Picks (of the high sort) are certainly considered.

[-Kyle-]

Retired Players:

Dennis Aust

Released Players:

None yet.

[-Kyle-]

Gamblers would like to trade both Ken Boyer and George Scott, preferably for an outfielder or a draft pick.

[-Kyle-]

) Stingers: 1st rounder to Legends
2) Gold Sox: 2nd and 3rd to Hard Cider
3) Pirates: 1st to Redbirds, 2nd to Hard Cider (sorry Ed )
4) Redbirds
5) Shoeless Joes
6) Gamblers: 1st to Legends
7) Cannons: 1st and 2nd to Legends, 4th to Gold Sox
8) Diablos
9) Skipjacks
10) Legends
11) Hard Cider: 1st to Legends, 2nd to Gold Sox
12) Knights: (but looking to trade up )
--The Legends have 5 picks, including the 1st overall, in what looks to be the richest rookie crop in CKL history. The Redbirds may be in the best position though with the 3rd and 4th picks likely to net them a pair of future Hall of Famers.
--Please let me know as soon as possible if I've missed any draft pick trades.

Dang, I desperatly want to draft in this round...dang. Too bad Dude traded the pick away.

[-Kyle-]

The Gambler's FO is currently torn this year between "rebuilding" with the great draft picks there are this year or going for it all in his first year, because the previous owner seemed to align it well for '67.

[leecemark]

--Kyle, attached is the Gamblers (BTW you may change the name and park) roster. The rating go from exellent (EX) to very good (VG) to average (AV) to Fair (FR) to por (PR). The numbers work like OPS or ERA+ with 100 being average and higher being more frequent. For example, a rating of 120 in the error field would mean the player would make 20% more errors than the average player at is position.

[-Kyle-]

--Kyle, attached is the Gamblers (BTW you may change the name and park) roster. The rating go from exellent (EX) to very good (VG) to average (AV) to Fair (FR) to por (PR). The numbers work like OPS or ERA+ with 100 being average and higher being more frequent. For example, a rating of 120 in the error field would mean the player would make 20% more errors than the average player at is position.

There looks to be an error on Curt Flood (hopefully).

[leecemark]

--What do you think is wrong with him?

[-Kyle-]

--What do you think is wrong with him?

It says hes batting .000 against lefties and rightys.

[leecemark]

--It probably says that for most of your players. Until this season no players had their actual splits listed and the program just used a generic platoon split for all players. This season some players (all AL players?) have their real life splits and the rest just have the generic platoon split (Numbers not shown, but its about a 10% for LH batters and 5% for RH batters). A bonus for switch hitters with gerenic splits is they get the platton advantage both ways and usually end up exceeding thei real life performance. As we move forward in time having the actual splits loaded will increased, but it isn't until the 80s that DM has them programed into all teams.
--Flood should hit something close to his real life .335, although if you stay in Dodger Stadium that is going to drag most of your hitters down. This was maybe Flood's best season and he is one of your best players, so no worries about his programming.

[catcher24]

Kyle, just a suggestion. I don't know your financial situation or anything like that, but if you could possibly swing it I would strongly recommend that you purchase the Diamond Mind game. It is a significant investment (around $50 as I recall), but it makes the creation of lineups, rotations, managerial settings, etc. so much easier. It also lets you create virtually any report you can think up. Also, the Encyclopedia is also included in the price. You can have Mark send you the league file at the end of every season (and he or I could send you the back ones) and then you have the career record of any player ever appearing in a CKL game. I've spent literally hours running test sims, checking out career stats for players, and of course you can run your own league with the included teams if you wish, or purchase other seasons. I keep thinking about doing another league similar to the CKL but starting around 1900, just haven't gotten up that much ambition yet!

Incidentally, the guys who play in the league will tell you I've been harping on this for a long time.

[catcher24]

OK, maybe this will finally break the logjam and get those trades moving. The Legends announce a trade with the Gamblers' new ownership. In exchange for returning to the Gamblers their number one draft pick in this year's rookie draft (number six over all), the Legends will receive up and coming lefty pitcher Mike Cuellar from the Gamblers.

Legends manager Gene Mauch stated:"I'm very pleased that our ownership has made this trade. Harvey Haddix, our pitching coach, feels that Mike can become an absolutely outstanding pitcher, and I think having him in the fold greatly increases our chances to bring home a championship this season. And I'm always more comfortable having a known quantity than taking a chance in the draft!"

Kyle, please confirm when you can.

[leecemark]

--It seems Legends upper and field management aren't on the same page in regards to proven commodities vs draft picks:p . Or perhaps this represent a philosophical shift in the Legends direction:think: .

[catcher24]

I know; I might have to replace Gene with someone else. :laugh

[leecemark]

--One week to the non-tender deadline. There are a few teams that have been dormant so far this offseason. Break time is about over now. Check those rosters and shed the deadwood. I've got a few trade proposals out there that haven't been responded to, as well.

[-Kyle-]

Kyle, just a suggestion. I don't know your financial situation or anything like that, but if you could possibly swing it I would strongly recommend that you purchase the Diamond Mind game. It is a significant investment (around $50 as I recall), but it makes the creation of lineups, rotations, managerial settings, etc. so much easier. It also lets you create virtually any report you can think up. Also, the Encyclopedia is also included in the price. You can have Mark send you the league file at the end of every season (and he or I could send you the back ones) and then you have the career record of any player ever appearing in a CKL game. I've spent literally hours running test sims, checking out career stats for players, and of course you can run your own league with the included teams if you wish, or purchase other seasons. I keep thinking about doing another league similar to the CKL but starting around 1900, just haven't gotten up that much ambition yet!

Incidentally, the guys who play in the league will tell you I've been harping on this for a long time.

I am fine financially, but my parents would think its a waste of money. I'll just ask for it for Xmas...:D

[-Kyle-]

OK, maybe this will finally break the logjam and get those trades moving. The Legends announce a trade with the Gamblers' new ownership. In exchange for returning to the Gamblers their number one draft pick in this year's rookie draft (number six over all), the Legends will receive up and coming lefty pitcher Mike Cuellar from the Gamblers.

Legends manager Gene Mauch stated:"I'm very pleased that our ownership has made this trade. Harvey Haddix, our pitching coach, feels that Mike can become an absolutely outstanding pitcher, and I think having him in the fold greatly increases our chances to bring home a championship this season. And I'm always more comfortable having a known quantity than taking a chance in the draft!"

Kyle, please confirm when you can.

Confirmed, Cuellar is a great player in 1969 and an innings eater other years. I am hoping to move up with getting our 6th pick back.

[catcher24]

The Legends, having received no inquiries or interest in the following players, have opted to buy out their contracts and release them to free agency. They will be available in the unrestricted free agent draft in three (?) weeks.

Jake Gibbs, Catcher 1 Year remaining on contract @ 4.25M Buyout = 2.25M

Bob Saverine, Utility 1 Year remaining on contract @ 4.25M Buyout = 2.25M

Mike Shannon, OF/3B 2 Years remaining on contract @ 10.25M Buyout = 10.25M

Jack Fisher, SP 1 Year remaining on contract @ 1.25M Buyout = 750K (.75M)

Total to be charged against Legends payroll in 1967 for contract buyouts: 15.5M

This makes the Legends salary obligation as of this move $90M for 35 players.

The Legends thank all of these players for helping them win the Hulbert Division title in 1966. However, due to increasing salary expenses projected to occur in 1967 and more so in 1968, management is paying the buyout costs now.

[-Kyle-]

No taker for Boyer at all? I want very little for him, he has not spot on my team with the corner IF spots crowded.

[-Kyle-]

The Gamblers announce the release of Moose Skorwon and Bob Lee.

[-Kyle-]

I keep thinking about doing another league similar to the CKL but starting around 1900, just haven't gotten up that much ambition yet!

That would be awesome...I bet you could get some of the Dead-ball era junkies huddled in the history forum to play.

[leecemark]

--I'd take a team in that league Lew, but if you were using DMB you'd either be making alot of those seasons yourself or finding another DM player who already had and was willing to share. The don't have most of those old seasons programmed.

[Erik Bedard]

OOTP (with the Lahman or Arod/Garlon DB) would work fine for that. And I'd probably take a team as well.

[jkc32]

I'd also be interested if you went with a DMB league.

[catcher24]

--I'd take a team in that league Lew, but if you were using DMB you'd either be making alot of those seasons yourself or finding another DM player who already had and was willing to share. The don't have most of those old seasons programmed.

From some time spent on the DM boards, it has become apparent to me that some of the game owners have done every league back to at least 1900, and several years in the late 1800s are done as well. And from what I've read, they're quite accurate - and also free. I may do something along those lines some time in the future, but for sure not now.

Dan, you probably aren't aware of it, but for the first CKL season we ran two concurrent 1961 seasons - I ran it on OOTP 6, while Mark ran it on DM. We took a vote after the season and it was decided to go with DM from that point forward. So I've rather gotten away from OOTP, although I do still have my Lahman and Arod/Garlan DBs. So although I enjoyed playing OOTP, especially the more involved financial end of the game, I have pretty much used DM exclusively since the vote and my purchase of the game.

[Erik Bedard]

If you can get the seasons to run perfectly fine on DMB, then that would probably be better. OOTP, from my experiences, isn't exactly great for running an online league.

[Erik Bedard]

The Gold Sox management is pleased to announce a deal made with the Gamblers' new ownership. The Gold Sox will receive George Scott and Ken Boyer, and the Gamblers will receive Tony Conigliaro and the Gold Sox' third-round pick in 1969.

[-Kyle-]

The Gold Sox management is pleased to announce a deal made with the Gamblers' new ownership. The Gold Sox will receive George Scott and Ken Boyer, and the Gamblers will receive Tony Conigliaro and the Gold Sox' third-round pick in 1969.

Rationale behind this: I am in no need of Scott whatsoever due to Mantle at 1b, and Ken Boyer is dead weight with Killebrew at 3b and franchise player. Tony C has some setimental value to me and is an extremly good hitter for me this year, despite playing a low number of games. I traded excess which I needed to get rid of for a player that probably is not of equal value but none the less helpful to my cause in 1967.

[baseballPAP]

--I'd take a team in that league Lew, but if you were using DMB you'd either be making alot of those seasons yourself or finding another DM player who already had and was willing to share. The don't have most of those old seasons programmed.

Not an issue...almost every season from 1876 to 1927 have been created, and I can get 'em all as soon as I remember the website. I'm currently in a league that started with 1908 and has reached 1914.

[catcher24]

Not an issue...almost every season from 1876 to 1927 have been created, and I can get 'em all as soon as I remember the website.

Yeah, I figured if I ever do this, one post on the boards should provide the necessary web sites.

[J W]

The Skipjacks announce a trade with the Redbirds: PAP will send 1B Ernie Banks to JW for RP Claude Raymond.

Rumor has it that Skipjacks 1B Boog Powell is not 100% and Banks, unhappy with being a bench player, will be installed as the primary 1B with left-handed help from Powell. The Redbirds meanwhile will receive some cap relief as well as a mainstay in the Skipjacks bullpen since 1962.

So long Frenchy, thanks :waving

Scott, please confirm.

[J W]

The Skipjacks are also announcing that OF prospect Bobby Tolan is on the trading block. Management says that the 21 year-old Tolan "has a chance to make the 25-man roster"; rumors state Tolan is frustrated at not getting an opportunity for major-league playing time, despite his lack of experience. Tolan has been performing very well for the Plaid Sox, batting over .300.

The Skipjacks are interested mainly in starting pitching for the immediate future, though they will also take a look at a possible replacement for Jim Fregosi at SS.

[baseballPAP]

The Skipjacks announce a trade with the Redbirds: PAP will send 1B Ernie Banks to JW for RP Claude Raymond.

Rumor has it that Skipjacks 1B Boog Powell is not 100% and Banks, unhappy with being a bench player, will be installed as the primary 1B with left-handed help from Powell. The Redbirds meanwhile will receive some cap relief as well as a mainstay in the Skipjacks bullpen since 1962.

So long Frenchy, thanks :waving

Scott, please confirm.

Redbirds confirm....

[baseballPAP]

The Redbirds have an extra OFer or 2...
Tommy Davis, Jesus Alou and maybe even Matty Alou could be had for the right draft pick or pitcher.....
Tony Horton is also a nice add on for the team looking to solidify its bench.

[catcher24]

LOTS of extra OFers out there, or so it seems. I have Felipe Alou, Jim Northrup, Ollie Brown and a lesser light, Ted Uhlaender, all of whom I would consider trading. However, there doesn't seem to be quite the excess of pitching. I have Blue Moon Odom, Jim Nash, Ron Kline, Dan Osinski, Phil Regan, Grant Jackson and Dave Baldwin I'd consider moving for the right offer.

[ElHalo]

Diablos release:

Willie Stargell
Pete Richert
Jim O'Toole
Billy O'Dell
Jack Hamilton
Phil Roof
Bill White
Dick Nen
George Smith
Rollie Sheldon

And I have lots of middle relievers to trade if anybody's interested.

[catcher24]

Mark, the draft is still tonight at 8PM Eastern time, correct? I haven't seen much about it on the thread.

[Wasp]

The Stingers release:

Charley Smith (Forced free agent)

Retired:
Bill Hepler
Don Dennis
Bob Sadowski

Postion Players: Expired Contracts
Earl Battey
Sam Bowens
Byron Browne
Tito Fuentes
Chuck Harrison
Mike Hershberger
Elston Howard

Pitchers: Expired contracts
Joe Gibbon
Juan Pizarro

Cut:
Johnny Klippstein

Current Roster:
Johnny Briggs (1.5M, 64' draft) Doubled
Lou Brock (7.75M, 61' draft)
Chuck Hinton (4.5M, 61' draft)
Don Kessinger (500k, 64' draft) Doubled
Jerry Lumpe (1.25M, 61' draft)
Eddie Mathews (8.5M/1 year)
Felix Millan (250K, 66' draft)
Manny Mota (1M, 62' draft)
Bobby Murcer (250k, 65' draft)
Norm Siebern (3.75M, 61' draft)
Bob Tillman (1.75M, 62' draft)

Pitchers:
Turk Farrell (2M, 61' draft)
Dennis Higgins (250K, 66' draft)
Catfish Hunter (500K, 65' draft)
Cal Koonce (1.75M, 63' draft)
Denny Lemaster (2M, 62' draft)
Dick Lines (500k, 66' draft)
Phil Niekro (2.5M, 64' draft) Doubled
John O'Donoghue (2M/1 year)
Claude Osteen (10.75M, 61' draft)
Jim Palmer (12M, 65' draft) Franchise Player
Milt Pappas (5.5M/1 year)
Bob Shaw (2.75M, 61' draft)
Don Sutton (1.25M, 66' draft)
Ron Willis (250K, 66' draft)
Rick Wise (1M, 64' draft) Doubled



Total Salary 26 Players; 76 Million

[catcher24]

Max - You're absolutely right. Talk about stupid!:disbelief: I've been planning for it all week. Oh well, in reviewing Mark's notes :lookitup , I see that today was the final day for buying out contracts, etc. I've already done that. so I guess I'll have to make a new plan for tonight! :laugh

Thanks, Max!:waving

[Erik Bedard]

The Gold Sox announce another trade. The Gold Sox will ship young SS Gene Michael along with the Hard Cider's second-round pick, obtained in the Leon Wagner deal, to the Redbirds for outfielder Tony Gonzalez. Scott, please confirm.

[jkc32]

Not an issue...almost every season from 1876 to 1927 have been created, and I can get 'em all as soon as I remember the website. I'm currently in a league that started with 1908 and has reached 1914.
Scott,

Is this the site you were referring to: http://www.geocities.com/taekwondoman2002/dmb9.html

[catcher24]

Joe - Great link. Thanks for that. Every season since 1876 is there in some form, as well as the National Association from 1871 to 1875. Excellent.

[catcher24]

The Legends have reached agreement with the Stingers on a trade. The Legends will send reliever Phil Regan and catcher Gene Oliver to the Stingers. The Stingers send their second round draft pick in 1970 to the Legends.

Max, please confirm.

[leecemark]

--Gold Sox/Redbirds and Legends/Stingers trades still need confirmation by the latter team of each pair.

[baseballPAP]

The Gold Sox announce another trade. The Gold Sox will ship young SS Gene Michael along with the Hard Cider's second-round pick, obtained in the Leon Wagner deal, to the Redbirds for outfielder Tony Gonzalez. Scott, please confirm.

The Redbirds confirm.

[baseballPAP]

Scott,

Is this the site you were referring to: http://www.geocities.com/taekwondoman2002/dmb9.html

A more complete version of the old link I had....thanks Joe!

[jkc32]

Found a problem with the Shoeless roster...

Dick Hall should be on my roster and Bill Short should not.

[Wasp]

The Legends have reached agreement with the Stingers on a trade. The Legends will send reliever Phil Regan and catcher Gene Oliver to the Stingers. The Stingers send their second round draft pick in 1970 to the Legends.

Max, please confirm.

The Stingers confirm this trade.

[J W]

In a strange turn of events, the Skipjacks announce a trade, sending recently acquired 1B Ernie Banks to the Diablos for SP Earl Wilson.

GM Beanie Bill: "While we would have loved to keep Banks for the season, we feel we have more options to cover 1B this season than SP. Wilson gives us a third legitimate starter for this season and in the near future--something we desperately needed."

Sources say that C Joe Torre may see more time at 1B this season... but that the team is looking for another part-time RH 1B to platoon w/ incumbent Boog Powell.

EH, please confirm.

[jkc32]

Shoeless trades the 5th pick in the draft to the Gamblers for the 6th pick in the draft and the Gamblers 2nd round pick in 1970.

Kyle to confirm...

[-Kyle-]

Shoeless trades the 5th pick in the draft to the Gamblers for the 6th pick in the draft and the Gamblers 2nd round pick in 1970.

Kyle to confirm...

Confirmed.

[catcher24]

Things are beginning to pick up a bit now, as we near the rookie draft!:cool:

[J W]

Beanie Bill is busy pounding the phones:

The Skipjacks announce another trade, this time with their Hulbert rival Legends. The Skipjacks will send the Legends their 1970 1st round pick, along with reliever Dooley Womack, for C Dick Dietz, SP Blue Moon Odom and SS Ron Hansen.

1st rd, 1970
Womack (.5)
------------------------
Dietz (.5)
Odom (.5)
Hansen (.25)

Lew, please confirm.

Notes & Quotes: Minor League OFer Bobby Tolan has apparently worked out his differences with Skipjacks management. Skipjacks manager Codfish Spatz assures the press that Tolan will be seeing some time in 1967. Tolan has been pulled off the trade block... Spatz told the press he's very excited to get a player nicknamed "Blue Moon". The press is uncertain as to the meaning of his statement... This marks the second stop in Baltimore for Hansen, who was on the original Skipjacks roster in 1961.

[catcher24]

Legends management (that would be Lew :happy: ) confirms the above trade. Management released the following statement: :atthepc
With Bill Freehan apparently a fixture at catcher for us for several more years, and with Gene Alley pretty much taking over at shortstop from Hansen last year, we felt it was worthwhile to trade some of our present talent to secure an additional high draft pick down the road. We hated to give up Dietz, who looks to really bloom soon, and Odom, who helped us win our division last year, but Freehan is here and we seem to have a boatload of pitching talent. Hansen's contract is up at the end of this season, and we really didn't expect him to take that spot back from Gene. We wanted Womack in case we have a problem with our pen this year.

[ElHalo]

In a strange turn of events, the Skipjacks announce a trade, sending recently acquired 1B Ernie Banks to the Diablos for SP Earl Wilson

Diablos confirm.

Shame to see Wilson go -- he would have been helpful in '69 -- but with the loss of Bill White, the Diablos needed a 1Bman. As we need a starting LF or CF as well, we'd really rather avoid having to get into two bidding wars. The combination of farmhands Frank Bertaina and Don Cardwell will do just as good as Wilson would have this season.

[leecemark]

--Here are current roster sand lists of unsigned players (rookies and free agents mixed).

[catcher24]

Looking forward to that rookie draft tomorrow night (for the second time:laugh ). If anyone can't make it and needs a proxy, I'll be there for sure.

[buppers]

Acording to my records, I have the 27th pick. Don't think I'll need a proxy and will probably watch the draft. MAYBE somebody will fall to me :)

Anybody willing, I'd trade a 1st rounder in '68 for one in '67.
Right now, I have 2 in '68

Ed - Buppers Badgers

[leecemark]

--I've got 3 different offers on the table involving my #1 pick in tonight's draft. I hope to make one of them, but I'll probably hold off on confirming any until all responses are in or the start up of the draft, whicever comes first,

[leecemark]

--Draft thread is up. Early picks are okay. Clock starts ticking at 8pm EST tonight. Hope to see most of you there. I've got proxy lists from Shoeless Joes and Diablos.

[catcher24]

I'll be there, and I have Scott's first round choices, should he not be able to make it.

[leecemark]

--I have Jim, Joe and Kyle's lists so things should go pretty quckly.

[mac195]

I've got a bunch of good relievers now for the '67 season, but they're all righties. Anyone have a lefty they'd like to swap?

[mac195]

--It probably says that for most of your players. Until this season no players had their actual splits listed and the program just used a generic platoon split for all players. This season some players (all AL players?) have their real life splits and the rest just have the generic platoon split (Numbers not shown, but its about a 10% for LH batters and 5% for RH batters).

Mark, do you know yet whether on not DM will use the real life splits for "67?

[catcher24]

Mac, I just looked at my DM game and find no way to keep the game from using the splits if they are available. Perhaps because our league is mixed (NL and AL players) the game engine goes back to estimating splits when they are available for one player but not the other in a pitcher/batter matchup. However, I would presume that if both pitcher and batter are from the AL the game would incorporate the splits into it's calculations for a play result.

[leecemark]

--This is the first season I've found that had splits for some playeers and not for others. I assume that for the players where their actual splits are programed those will be used and for the rest it will be generic splts. I don't know that for sure though. I'd be inclined to make the same platooning decisions this year that I would for any other (which for me means almost all LH batters sit vs LH pitchers if there is a reasonable RH option).

[mac195]

Thanks, Mark and Lew.

[leecemark]

--The Knights have traded disgruntled OFer Bob Allison to the Diablos for the Diablos 2nd round pick in 1969.
--Smokey Braithwaite said "Bob was unhappy about the way things worked out last season. After signing a 3 year 12.5M dollar deal he expected to be a regular for the Knights, but injuries allowed young outfielders Tommy Agee and Adolpo Phillips to get into the lineup and once there they showed they belonged. While Allison looks to be healthy and we expect there is a good chance he will bounce back to be a top slugger there just wasn't much chance of him reclaiming a starting job this year. Bob isn't ready to settle for being a bench player and he should be a key player for the Diablos this year. The pick we get in return will help us restock after the expansion draft".
--Jim, please confirm.

[ElHalo]

Confirm. With this move, the Diablos seem to be set up fairly nicely for the upcoming season. Bill Singer, Jim Merritt, and Rickey Clark make up the heart of a decent rotation; Luis Aparicio is the only starter with an OPS+ below Ernie Banks' 113; Roseboro, Hart, Kaline, and Clemente all have career years, and the bullpen is absolutely lights out, and incredibly deep. Hopefully, this will finally be the year the Diablos stop being the "best team that doesn't make the playoffs every year."

[catcher24]

Looks like a very potent team, Jim. Good luck, though, breaking that Hard Cider stranglehold on the division title! But it looks like you might be capable this time!

The Legends are feeling confident going into the season as well. Lowest OPS+ belongs to SS Gene Alley at 107, unless you count rookie OFer Reggie Smith at 101. He may or may not make the team, as we have rookie Rick Monday (121), Jim Northrup (111), Felipe Alou (108) and Rusty Staub (152) in the OF as well, and if anyone should get hurt Ollie Brown (103) can step in.

The infield looks good, with Willie McCovey (160) at first; Joe Morgan (130) at second; Alley at short; Ron Santo (153) at third; and Bill Freehan (144) behind the plate.:homeplate: A little weak in the backup area here, though - well, very weak, actually. If somebody gets hurt for an extended period, it won't be good.

On the mound, we have Luis Tiant (119 ERA+/ 1.14 WHIP); Tommy John (125/1.07); Fergie Jenkins (127/1.08); Mike Cuellar (109/1.20); and rookie Tom Seaver (122/1.20). If anyone gets injured, there's always Al Downing (119/1.09) or Bill Hands (144/1.21). Hands will also help in mid relief, along with Dan Osinski (137/1.18); Bill Monbouquette (135/1.03); Bob Locker (148/1.00); and Eddie Watt (140/1.00). For closing, we'll rely on Ted Abernathy (295/0.98), or if he gets injured, Dave Baldwin (186/1.06) - or Locker.

This situation actually leaves Cecil Upshaw (128/1.10) and probably Osinski in the minors as the season opens, so if anyone is interested, send me a PM.

Good luck to all this season. Looks like another dog fight shaping up in the CKL!

[catcher24]

The Legends and Gold Sox have come to agreement on a player trade. The Legends will send pitcher Cecil Upshaw and outfielders Felipe Alou and Ted Uhlaender to the Gold Sox. In exchange they will receive the Gold Sox 1970 first round draft pick.

Dan, please confirm.

Legends management news release: We hated to give up a great young arm like Upshaw has, because we're convinced he'll the capability to close some day. We also hated to give up Alou, who helped us to the division title last year and who has many good seasons left. Uhlaender was tough to send away as well. Ted hasn't quite lived up to our hopes for him, but we still feel he can be an everyday player. However, with Staub and Northrup already on our big team, and Reggie Smith and Rick Monday ready to make it at this level - not to mention Ollie Brown - we felt we could afford to give up a couple of outfielders for a high pick down the road. Upshaw was the toughest to give up, but I think everyone is aware of the number of great young arms in our system, so it was decided he was expendable.

[Erik Bedard]

Gold Sox confirm.

[leecemark]

--Interesting deal. Definately helps the Gold Sox right away and if they contend in 68 the draft pick makes this a bargain. If its another high pick then the Legends win the deal.

[leecemark]

--Attached are the rosters thru the 4th round of the draft. Let me know if you find any errors on your roster. The Gold Sox-legends trade was not completed (or at least I hadn't seen it) when I created this file.
--I'll be putting up the free agent auction thread shortly with free agent lists.

[-Kyle-]

Ouch, your teams are stacked. And I thought I had a good chance coming into the season. :laugh

[leecemark]

--The Gamblers have been fairly competitive in my sims. The Knights have dominated the Johnson Division since the inception of the CKL, but I don't have quite the powerhouse of past seasons this year. I've got 2 starters with OPS+ south of 100 and firstbasman Wes Parker is only at 111. My best hitter is surprisingly Adolpho Phillips with a 136 OPS+.

[catcher24]

--Interesting deal. Definately helps the Gold Sox right away and if they contend in 68 the draft pick makes this a bargain. If its another high pick then the Legends win the deal.

Part of this was to help clear out a total logjam of outfielders and relief pitchers that I have. Prior to the trade I had Alou, Rick Monday, Reggie Smith, Jim Northrup, Rusty Staub, Ollie Brown, Art Shamsky and Ted Uhlaender, who were all regulars or platoon players in 67. I also have Amos Otis, taken in the recent draft, who is about three years away; Joe Rudi, who's about four years away; and Dave May, who is about four years away as well. Alou was the biggest salary dump, and Uhlaender would've never made my major league roster. As for relief pitchers, prior to the trade I had Ted Abernathy, Ron Kline, Bob Locker, Eddie Watt, Dooley Womack, Grant Jackson, Sparky Lyle, Dan Osinski, Dave Baldwin and Bill Monbouquette for 1967, with Abernathy, Kline, Locker, Watt, Lyle all good for a few more years, so in order to land the 1970 first rounder Upshaw was expendable - but he was the one I hated the most to give up!

I figured the gamble was worth it in this case, especially since the 70 draft looks pretty decent.

[catcher24]

but I don't have quite the powerhouse of past seasons this year.

I think I've heard that refrain before.:laugh :blah: Mark will probably only win the division by 15 or so games this year, rather than the record 39 :lookitup he won by last year!

[-Kyle-]

Gamblers would like to trade Gary Wagner for a third rounder in years 69 on.

[ElHalo]

Just so nobody looks for me, I'm going to be up in Ithaca for a conference on Friday, so I won't be at the live auction... not that there's anybody I'd be signing, anyway. The Diablos only have 12.25M in free salary, and only five roster slots... and only need backup infielders, anyway. We'll be picking from scraps at the table this auction.

[catcher24]

Jim - Have a great time. Ithaca is a marvelous spot this time of year. Hope you have time to do a little sight seeing.Check out the Ithaca Bakery (http://www.ithacabakery.com/pages/home/home.php) - an awesome place to grab breakfast or a sandwich. I always stop there on my way through. If you have time, take a run up to Taughannock (?) Falls SP. It's not great in volume, but it is the highest east of the Mississippi River. But stay away from the edges if you go to the upper falls area! If you have time check out the Cornell University campus - it's beautiful. And the way the football stadium is built into the surrounding terrain is a neat thing to see.

[J W]

:waving Jim,

The Skipjacks are putting up their recent draft picks Graig Nettles and Ray Fosse on the trading block, and are looking for a partner who can afford to give up a starting pitcher or two. If you're interested, please contact Beanie Bill via his rep JW.

[ElHalo]

Jim - Have a great time. Ithaca is a marvelous spot this time of year. Hope you have time to do a little sight seeing.Check out the Ithaca Bakery (http://www.ithacabakery.com/pages/home/home.php) - an awesome place to grab breakfast or a sandwich. I always stop there on my way through. If you have time, take a run up to Taughannock (?) Falls SP. It's not great in volume, but it is the highest east of the Mississippi River. But stay away from the edges if you go to the upper falls area! If you have time check out the Cornell University campus - it's beautiful. And the way the football stadium is built into the surrounding terrain is a neat thing to see.

Haven't checked out the Ithaca Bakery, I don't believe (I'll be sure to do so), but as I did get my undergrad degree at Cornell, I know just how beautiful it is, especially at this time of year (and since my conference is at the school, I'll definitely be taking a look around). I always used to love swimming in the gorges on campus; probably a bit too cold for that this weekend, though. Haven't been there in five or six years, so it should be a fun time.

One thing I highly recommend if you're ever passing through Ithaca again: at least when I was there last, the Cornell art museum is this eight or ten story building sitting on sixty foot high stilts, with absolutely phenomenal views of Cayuga Lake to the northwest.

[catcher24]

Thanks for that info. I do get down that was occasionally, although it's been about four years now. I'm surprised if you did your undergrad work at Cornell that you've never been to the bakery. A wonderful place, with many different kinds of bread made fresh constantly, and marvelous sandwiches. But if you were an undergrad there, you sure know how beautiful the campus is and how cool the stadium is. Have a great time!

[catcher24]

Legends announce the following free agent contracts:

Julio Gotay - 1 year, 250K
Dave Ricketts - 1 year, 250K
Mike Shannon - 3 years, 1.25M
Dick Tracewski - 1 year, 250K

[leecemark]

--Deadline to get roster to 40 men is midnight EST tonight. Everybody is pretty close now.
--Deadline for setting 25 man roster and submitting managerial profiles is midnight EST Saturday, November 10. After updating your team thread please copy the relevant portoins to this thread so I can get your team programmed. For those with the DMB program please e-mail me your MP. Easier for me which means less chance something will get screwed up for you:). I would like you to post your info in your team thread for the benefit of non-DMB owners though.
--Here is the Knights MP as an example. The closer you stick to this format the easier it will be for me to get your team programed to do what you want it too.


25 man active squad
Starting Lineup
C: Tim McCarver (1.75m, 61 draft)
1B: Wes Parker (250K, 64 draft) -AAA
2B: Dick McAuliffe (4.50, 61 draft)
3B: Don Wert (1.25M, 63 draft/trade with Shoeless Joes)
SS: Jim Fregosi (22M, FA 67-69)

CF: Willie Mays (12m, franchise player)
LF: Billy Williams (12.75M, 61 draft, trade with Redbirds)
RF: Adolpho Phillips (500K, 64 draft)

-bench
OF: Lee Maye (1.50M, 61 draft)
C: Don Pavletich (750K, 61 draft/trade with Hard Cider)
LF: Tommy Agee (750K, 1963 draft/trade with Redbirds)
IF: Jose Pagan (250K, FA65-67)
SS: Leo Cardenas (3.50m, 61 draft)
1B: Mike Epstein (250K, 66 draft)


Rotation
SP: Gary Peters (4.75m, 61 draft)
SP: Juan Marichal (11.25M, 61 draft/trade with Pirates)
SP: Sonny Seibert (2.50m, 64 draft)
SP: Mel Queen (500K, 64 draft) - A
SP: Jim McGlothlin (250K, 65 draft)




- Bullpen
LHSU: Hank Aguirre (2.50M, 61 draft/trade with Redbirds)
LM: John Wyatt (1.25M, 61 draft/trade with Pirates)
RHSU: Jack Aker (1M, 64 draft)
CL: Lindy McDaniel (2.50M, 61 draft/trade with Skipjacks)
RP: Don Nottebart (1.25M, 61 draft )
RP: Gerry Arrigo (250K, 65-67)
RP: Casey Cox (500K, 66 draft)

Farm hands
Kalamazoo Squires AAA, Hamtramack Dragons AA, Cheyboygan Wizards
SP: Camilio Pascual (4.25M, FA 66-68) - AAA
RP: Tug McGraw (250K, 65 draft) - AA
RP: John Purdin (500K, 64 draft) - AAA
SP: Bobby Bolin (2.50M, 61 draft) - AAA
SP: Larry Dierker (1M, 64 draft) -AAA
SP: Ron Bryant (250K, 67 draft) - A
RP: Ken Brett (250K, 67 draft) - A
OF: Mike Lum (250K, 67 draft) - A
1B: Rich Reese (5000K, 64 draft) - AA
IF: Dick Green (1.75M, FA 67-69) - AAA
3B: Sal Bando (1M, 66 draft) - AA
C: Ken Suarez (250K, 66 draft) - AA
C: Manny Sanguillen (500K, 67 draft) - A
C: Elston Howard (250K, FA 67-8) - AAA


94.25M for 40 players


Draft picks traded
--1968 second round pick acquired from Cannons
--1968 second round pick traded to Shoeless Joes
--1968 first round pick traded to Pirates
--1968 first round pick acquired from Pirates
--1969 2nd round pick acquired from Diablos


Managerial Profile
Lineup vs RHP
1B: Parker (Epstein 50%)
2B: McAuliffe (Pagan)
C McCarver (Paveltich)
RF: Phillips (Maye 25%)
LF Williams (Agee, Agee DR)
CF Mays (Maye 25%)
3B: Wert (Pagan)
SS Fregosi (Cardenas)
PH vs RHP: Maye
PH vs LHP: Maye

Lineup vs LHP
1B: Parker (Epstein)
2B: Pagan (McAuliffe)
RF: Phillips (Maye)
CF Mays (Maye)
C Paveltich (McCarver)
LF: Agee (Williams)
3B Wert (Pagan)
SS: Fregosi (Cardenas)

PH vs RHP: Maye, McAuliffe
PH vs LHP: Maye


Pitching
SP1 Peters
SP2 Marichal
SP3 Seibert
SP4 Queen
SP5 McGlothlin
Spot Starter: Arrigo
Mop up: Cox, Wyatt
Long man: Wyatt. Cox
LH set up: Aguire, Arrigo
RH set up: Nottebart, McDaniel
RH Closer: McDaniel, Nottebart
LH Closer: McDaniel, Aguirre

Profile
Batting
Bunt for hit: least
Sac bunt: Least
Squeeze: Least
Steal: Least
Take extra bases: Standard
Take pitches: Standard
Pinch hitting
for pitchers: Less
for non-pitchers: Less
for platoon partners: More
in blowouts: Standard
Pitching
pitch around - Standard
IBB - Standard
use relievers - Less
use closers - Less
Defense
hold runners - Standard
IF in - Standard
guard lines - Standard

[buppers]

3 years - Humphreys and Pizarro
2 years - Priddy
1 year - Howard, Dillman, Hall, Roof and Kennedy

Think thats all

Ed

[mac195]

Major League
C: Tom Haller (2.25M) '61
C: Jerry May (250K) '65-'67 FA
1B: Norm Cash (10.50M) '61
1B: Jack Hiatt (250K) '64
2B: Ron Hunt (1.25M) '63
2B: Dick Howser (250K) '66-'67 FA
2B: Mike Andrews (500K) '66
2B: Bill Mazeroski (250K) '65-'67 FA
3B: Dick Allen (2.75M) '63
OF: Frank Robinson (12M) franchise
OF: Roger Maris (1.00M) '65-'67 FA
OF: Rick Reichardt (500K) '64
OF: Bubba Morton (4.75M) '67 FA
OF: Johnny Callison (5M) '66-'69 FA
SP: Jim Bunning (9.25M) '61
SP: Lee Stange (1.5M) '61
SP: Steve Hargan (500K) '65
SP: Dick Hughes (250K) '66
SP: Larry Jaster (750K) '65 (from Pirates)
SP: Ken Holtzman (500K) '65
SP: Jim Hardin (250K) '67
RP: Stu Miller (4.75M) '67 FA
RP: Dick Selma (250K) '65
RP: Ron Taylor (1M) '62
RP: Cisco Carlos (250K) '67
Minors
SS: Denis Menke (1M) '62
SS: Larry Brown (1.25M) '63
OF-1B: Ron Fairly (2.5M) '61
OF: Roy White (500K) '65
OF: Steve Whitaker (500K) '66
OF: Len Gabrielson (750K) '66-'68 FA
CF: Russ Synder (1.25M) '61 (from Pirates)
SP: Pat Jarvis (500K) '66
SP: Bob Moose (250K) '67
SP: Luke Walker (250K) '65
SP: Jack Fisher (250K) '67-'68 FA
RP: Steve Hamilton (2.00M) '61 (from Legends)
RP: Billy McCool (1.5M) '64
RP: Alan Foster (250K) '67
RP: Danny Coombs (250K) '67 FA
40 players / $73.75M

Additional picks:
2nd- '68 Diabos (for Pete Richart)
3rd- '68 Gold Sox
1st- '69 Gold Sox
Picks traded away:
3rd-'69 (Skipjacks)

Lineup vs. RHP
1 Hunt 2B (Mazeroski) Mazeroski DR
2 Maris RF (Callison)
3 Robinson LF (Callison)
4 Allen 3B (Hunt)
5 Cash 1B (Hiatt)
6 Reichardt CF (Callison)
7 Haller C (May)
8 Andrews SS (Howser)
PH vs RHP: Callison
PH vs LHP: Hiatt, Morton, Howser
Lineup vs. LHP
1 Howser SS (Andrews)
2 Morton RF (Callison) Callison DR
3 Robinson LF (Callison)
4 Allen 3B (Howser)
5 Hiatt 1B (Cash) Cash DR
6 Reichardt CF (Callison)
7 May C (Haller) Haller DR
8 Andrews 2B (Hunt) Mazeroski DR
PH vs RHP: Cash, Maris, Haller
PH vs LHP: Hunt

Pitching
SP1: Bunning
SP2: Hughes
SP3: Hargan
SP4: Stange
SP5: Holtzman (skip)
Spot: Jaster
Mop up: Jaster
Long man: Selma, Miller, Jaster
LH set up: Taylor, Selma, Miller
RH set up: Hardin, Taylor, Miller
LH closer: Hardin, Taylor
RH closer: Carlos, Hardin

Profile
Batting
bunt for hit: less
sac bunt: less
squeeze: less
steal: less
take extra bases: standard
take pitches: standard

Pinch hitting
for pitchers: standard
for non-pitchers: standard
for platoon partners: standard
in blowouts: standard

Pitching
pitch around: standard
IBB: standard
use relievers: more (Bunning less)
use closers: standard

Defense
hold runners: standard
IF in: standard
guard lines: standard

[buppers]

Players 39 & 4o

Jim Landis - 1 year
Ron Reed - 3 years

Ed

[leecemark]

--Rosters are now locked until after Opening Day. Please get your 25 man active roster set and mangerial profiles in by midnight tomorrow. I hope to run Opening Day with your info, but we start playing ball (early) Sunday regardless. I'll set rosters for any team that hasn't submitted. Attached are the complete roster through the end of the free agent signing period. Everyone is at 40 except the Stingers who opted to go with 36 and took the 1M cap penalty. Kyle the two players added to the Gamblers are Bobby Wine who was an extra due to some signing confusion and Joey Amalfitiano - who just happened to be first alphabetically amoung unsigned players.

[J W]

Lineup vs. RHP
1) RF - Oliva* (Lock)
2) 2B - Johnson (Salmon)
3) LF - Yastrzemski* (Jones*)
4) CF - Jones* (Lock)
5) C - Torre (Haney 5%)
6) 1B - Webster* (Powell*)
7) 3B - Robinson (Salmon)
8) SS - Hansen (Salmon 5%)

PH vR - Powell*
PH vL - Lock

Lineup vs. LHP
1) RF - Oliva* (Lock 25%)
2) CF - Lock (Jones*)
3) LF - Yastrzemski* (Jones*)
4) 3B - Robinson (Salmon)
5) 1B - Torre (Powell*)
6) C - Haney (Dietz 30%)
7) SS - Hansen (Salmon)
8) 2B - Johnson (Salmon 10%)

PH vR - Jones*, Powell*
PH vL - comp control

Pitching - skip
SP1 - Horlen
SP2 - Chance
SP3 - Wilson
SP4 - Richert*
SP5 - Giusti

Spot starter: Lamabe, Graham
Mop up: Cimino, Verbanic
Long man: Verbanic, Lamabe
LH set up: Rojas, Lindblad*
RH set up: Rojas, Verbanic
LH closer: Linzy, Rojas
RH closer: Linzy, Rojas

Profile - standard unless shown

Stealing Bases (SB% rating) - EX=more, VG=average, AV-PR=less
Extra Base (run rating) - EX-VG=more, AV-FR=average, PR=less
*Sac Bunt (w/rating) - EX-AV=average, FR-PR=less
Bunt FH (w/rating) - EX-AV=average, FR-PR=less
Use Relievers (SP rating) - PR-FR=more, AV-VG=average, EX=less

(* excludes pitchers, set those at average)

[Erik Bedard]

POSITION YEAR SIGNED 250K RAISE SALARY

CATCHER
Randy Hundley 1964 Yes $500,000.00
Johnny Bench 1967 $1,000,000.00
FIRST BASE
George Scott 1966 $750,000.00
SECOND BASE
Jerry Buchek No $1,500,000.00
Ted Kubiak $250,000.00
THIRD BASE
Ken Boyer
Pete Ward No $1,500,000.00
SHORTSTOP
Maury Wills 1966 No $7,750,000.00
Mark Belanger 1965 No $250,000.00
LEFT FIELD
Tony Gonzalez 1961 $4,750,000.00
Ron Swoboda No $750,000.00
Wayne Comer 1967 $250,000.00
CENTER FIELD
Tommy Harper 1963 Yes $1,500,000.00
Felipe Alou 1961 $4,500,000.00
RIGHT FIELD
Ken Henderson 1965 No $250,000.00
Bob Watson 1966 No $250,000.00
Lou Piniella 1964 No $250,000.00
STARTERS
Jim Perry 1966 No $20,750,000.00
Mike Torrez 1967 $250,000.00
Wally Bunker 1966 No $1,750,000.00
Stan Bahnsen 1966 No $500,000.00
Whitey Ford 1965 No $8,000,000.00
Barry Latman 1961 Yes $1,000,000.00
Jim Lonborg 1965 Yes $750,000.00
Steve Blass 1964 Yes $750,000.00
Lew Krausse 1964 Yes $750,000.00
Nolan Ryan 1966 No $750,000.00
RELIEVERS
Cecil Upshaw 1966 $250,000.00
Roy Face 1961 Yes $2,250,000.00
Jim Weaver 1967 $250,000.00
Lew Burdette 1961 Yes $1,000,000.00
Tom Kelley 1964 No $250,000.00
Jose Santiago 1963 Yes $1,000,000.00
Ken Sanders 1964 Yes $250,000.00
Tommie Sisk 1961 No $1,250,000.00
Mike Hedlund 1965 No $250,000.00
John Hiller 1965 No $750,000.00

Depth Chart:

C: Hundley
1B: Scott
2B: Buchek
3B: Boyer
SS: Wills
LF: Ward
CF: Gonzalez
RF: Swoboda

Lineup:

Wills
Boyer (Ward 20%)
Gonzalez (Alou 10%, Harper 5%)
Scott (Alou 10%)
Ward (Uhlaender 15%, Alou 10%, Harper 10%)
Swoboda (Alou 10%, Uhlaender 10%, Harper 10%)
Hundley (McNertney 15%)
Buchek

SP1: Perry
SP2: McCormick
SP3: Lonborg
SP4: Sisk
SP5: Blass

Bullpen:

Spot Starter: Ford
Long Man: Santiago
Mop up: Hiller
RHSU: Upshaw, Allen, Weaver
LHSU: Allen, Weaver, Upshaw
CL: Face

Profile:

Batting

Bunt for hit: Least (Harper, Wills: Standard)
Sac bunt: Standard
Squeeze: Less
Steal: Less (Harper, Wills: Most)
Take extra bases: Standard (Harper, Wills: Most)
Take pitches: More

Pinch hitting

for pitchers: More
for non-pitchers: Least
for platoon partners: Standard
in blowouts: Most

Pitching

pitch around - More
IBB - Standard
use relievers - Most
use closers - More

Defense

hold runners - Standard
IF in - Standard
guard lines - Standard


Traded picks:

1968 - 1st round to Redbirds (Versalles)
1968 - 2nd round to Skipjacks (Koufax/Schaal)
1968 - 3rd round to Hard Cider (Koufax)
1969 - 1st round to Hard Cider (Koufax)
1970 - 1st round to Legends (Alou)
1970 - 2nd round to Shoeless Joes (1965 draft)

Acquired picks:

[catcher24]

STARTERS
C: Bill Freehan 4.5M Contract: 1961 Rookie, 1 Year club option Exp: N/A
1B:*Willie McCovey 10.5M Contract:1961 Draft, 1 Year club option Exp: N/A
2B:*Joe Morgan 1.25M Contract: 1963 Rookie, Bump 1966 Exp: 1968
3B: Ron Santo 12M Contract:1961 Draft, Franchise Player Exp: N/A
SS: Gene Alley 750K Contract: 1963 Rookie, Bump 1966 Exp: 1968
LF:*Jim Northrup 2.5M Contract: 1964 Rookie, Bump 1967 Exp: 1969
CF:*Rick Monday 750K Contract: 1966 Rookie, Bump 1969 Exp: 1971
RF: *Rusty Staub 1.25M Contract: 1963 Rookie, Bump 1966 Exp: 1968

BENCH
C: #Dave Ricketts 250K Contract: 1967 FA, 1 Year Exp: 1967
C:
IF: Dick Tracewski 250K Contract: 1967 FA, 1 Year Exp: 1967
IF: Jim Davenport 2M Contract: 1965 FA, 3 Years Exp: 1967
OF: Ollie Brown 500K Contract: 1965 Rookie, Bump 1968 Exp: 1970
OF:#Reggie Smith 1M Contract: 1966 Rookie, Bump 1969 Exp: 1971
OF:Mike Shannon 1.25M Contract: 1967 FA, 3 Years Exp: 1969

STARTING PITCHERS
Fergie Jenkins 1.25M Contract: 1965 Rookie, Bump 1968 Exp: 1970
*Tommy John 2.25M Contract: 1963 Rookie, Bump 1966 Exp: 1968
Tom Seaver 1M Contract: 1967 Rookie, Bump 1970 Exp: 1972
*Al Downing 2M Contract:1961 Draft, 1 Year club option Exp: N/A
Luis Tiant 3M Contract: 1964 Rookie, Bump 1967 Exp: 1969

BULLPEN
Ted Abernathy 1.5M Contract: 1961 Draft, 1 Year club option Exp: N/A
Bob Locker 750K Contract: 1965 Rookie Draft, Bump 1968 Exp: 1970
*Sparky Lyle 750K Contract: 1967 Rookie, Bump 1970 Exp: 1972
Bill Monbouquette 4.25M Contract: 1966 FA, 2 Years Exp: 1967
Eddie Watt 750K Contract: 1966 Rookie, Bump 1969 Exp: 1971
*Mike Cuellar 4.25M Contract: 1961 Draft, 1 Year club option Exp: N/A

MINOR LEAGUES
C:*Ed Herrmann 250K Contract: 1967 Rookie, Bump 1970 Exp: 1972
C:
1B:
2B: Julio Gotay 250K Contract: 1967 FA, 1 Year Exp: 1967
3B: Doug Rader 500K Contract: 1967 Rookie, Bump 1970 Exp: 1972
SS:
OF: Joe Rudi 250K Contract: 1967 Rookie, Bump 1970 Exp: 1972
OF:*Dave May 250K Contract: 1967 Rookie, Bump 1970 Exp: 1972
OF:
OF:*Art Shamsky 750K Contract: 1965 Rookie, Bump 1968 Exp: 1970
OF:Amos Otis 500K Contract: 1967 Rookie, Bump 1970 Exp: 1972

SP:
SP: Bill Hands 1.25M Contract: 1965 Rookie, Bump 1968 Exp: 1970
SP: Jim Nash 500K Contract: 1966 Rookie, Bump 1969 Exp: 1971
P: Roger Nelson 250K Contract: 1967 Rookie, Bump 1970 Exp: 1972
P: *Grant Jackson 250K Contract: 1965 Rookie, Bump 1968 Exp: 1970
P: Dan Osinski 1.5 Contract:1962 Rookie, Bump 1965 Exp: 1967
P: Dooley Womack 500K Contract: 1966 Rookie, Bump 1969 Exp: 1971
RP: Ron Kline 2.5M Contract:1961 Draft, 1 Year club option Exp: N/A
RP:Dave Baldwin 250K Contract: 1966 Rookie, Bump 1969 Exp: 1971

Contract Buyouts: Jake Gibbs, 2.25M; Bob Saverine, 2.25M; Mike Shannon, 10.25M; Jack Fisher, 750K TOTAL CONTRACT BUYOUTS: 15.5M


TOTAL SALARY = $85.75M for 40 players

DRAFT PICKS TRADED AWAY:

DRAFT PICKS OBTAINED VIA TRADES:

1968: Redbirds 1st round pick.
1970: Skipjacks 1st round pick.
1970: Gold Sox 1st round pick.
1970: Stingers 2nd round pick.

LINEUPS AND STRATEGIES FOR 1967

Lineup vs LHP
*Joe Morgan, 2B (Dick Tracewski 2%)
*Rusty Staub, RF (Mike Shannon DR: Rick Monday)
Bill Freehan, C (Dave Ricketts)
*Willie McCovey, 1B (Freehan)
Ron Santo, 3B (Jim Davenport)
Ollie Brown, LF (Jim Northrup; DR: Northrup)
Gene Alley, SS (Davenport)
#Reggie Smith, CF (Monday)
Pitcher
PH vs LHP: Davenport, Tracewski, Shannon, Ricketts
PH vs RHP: Monday, Northrup, Davenport, Tracewski


Lineup vs RHP
*Joe Morgan, 2B (Tracewski)
*Rusty Staub, RF (Smith DR: Smith)
Ron Santo, 3B (Davenport)
*Willie McCovey, 1B (Freehan)
*Rick Monday, CF (Smith)
Bill Freehan, C (Ricketts 5%)
*Jim Northrup, LF (Brown)
Gene Alley, SS (Davenport 3%)
Pitcher
PH vs LHP: Brown, Davenport, Tracewski, Shannon
PH vs RHP: Smith, Davenport, Tracewski, Shannon

Pitching Assignments
5 Man Rotation (Skip)
SP1 Fergie Jenkins
SP2 *Tommy John
SP3 Tom Seaver
SP4 *Al Downing
SP5 Luis Tiant
Spot Starter: *Mike Cuellar; Bill Monbouquette
Mopup Relief: Bob Locker; Mike Cuellar
Longman: Eddie Watt; Bill Monbouquette; Sparky Lyle; Bob Locker; Mike Cuellar
LH Setup:
RH Setup:
Closer: Ted Abernathy

Managerial Profile
Hitting
Bunt for hit: Normal
Sac Bunt: Less
Squeeze: Less
Steal: More
Take Extra Bases: More
Take Pitches: Standard
Pinch hit for pitchers: Standard
Pinch hit for non-pitchers: Less
Pinch hit for Platoon Partner: Standard
Pinch hit in blowouts: More

Pitching
Pitch Around: Standard
IBB: Standard
Use Relievers: Normal
Use Closers: More

Defense
Hold Runners: Standard
IF In: Standard
Guard Lines: Least

[Wasp]

Wasp's Stingers


Roster:
Ken Berry (250k/1year)
Johnny Briggs (1.5M, 64' draft) Doubled
Lou Brock (7.75M, 61' draft)
Tim Cullen (750k/1 year)
Chuck Hinton (4.5M, 61' draft)
Pat Kelly (250k, 67' draft)
Don Kessinger (500k, 64' draft) Doubled
Jerry Lumpe (1.25M, 61' draft)
Eddie Mathews (8.5M/1 year)
Felix Millan (250K, 66' draft)
Manny Mota (1M, 62' draft)
Bobby Murcer (250k, 65' draft)
Gene Oliver (2.25M/1 year)
Aurelio Rodriguez (250k, 67' draft)
Norm Siebern (3.75M, 61' draft)
Bob Tillman (1.75M, 62' draft)
Bill White (500k/1 year)

Pitchers:
John Buzhardt (250k/2 years)
Turk Farrell (2M, 61' draft)
Dennis Higgins (250K, 66' draft)
Catfish Hunter (500K, 65' draft)
Cal Koonce (1.75M, 63' draft)
Denny Lemaster (2M, 62' draft)
Dick Lines (500k, 66' draft)
Barry Moore (1M/1 year)
Phil Niekro (2.5M, 64' draft) Doubled
John O'Donoghue (2M/1 year)
Claude Osteen (10.75M, 61' draft)
Jim Palmer (12M, 65' draft) Franchise Player
Milt Pappas (5.5M/1 year)
Tony Pierce (250k, 67' draft)
Phil Regan (2M, 250k raise every year)
Bob Shaw (2.75M, 61' draft)
Don Sutton (1.25M, 66' draft)
Ron Willis (250K, 66' draft)
Rick Wise (1M, 64' draft) Doubled


Total Salary 36 Players; 84.75 Million

Lineup:

CF Lou Brock
LF Ken Berry (Johnny Briggs 40%)
3B Eddie Mathews (Aurelio Rodriguez 15%)
RF Chuck Hinton
2B Tim Cullen (Jerry Lumpe 25%)
1B Bill White (Norm Siebern 10%)
SS Don Kessinger
C Gene Oliver (Bob Tillman 15%)
Pitcher

Pitchers:

Rotation:

Phil Niekro
Catfish Hunter
Milt Pappas
Claude Osteen
Rick Wise (skip)

Bullpen:

Spot Starter: Denny Lemaster
Long man: Don Sutton
Mopup: Cal Koonce
RP: Ron Willis, Phil Regan, Tony Pierce
CL: Turk Farrell

Profile:

Batting

Bunt for hit: Least
Sac bunt: Less
Squeeze: Less
Steal: Least
Take extra bases: Standard
Take pitches: More

Pinch hitting

for pitchers: Standard
for non-pitchers: Least
for platoon partners: Standard
in blowouts: More

Pitching

pitch around - More
IBB - Standard
use relievers - Standard
use closers - Standard

Defense

hold runners - Standard
IF in - Standard
guard lines - Standard

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