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Solair Wright
08-31-2007, 06:17 AM
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/columnists/sfl-flsphyde31nbaug31,0,7781986.column

Dave Hyde | Sports Columnist
August 31, 2007

Bud Selig could solve the Marlins' stadium problem today in the time it takes to microwave popcorn. It wouldn't mean raising another dime. It wouldn't involve fighting another politician.

It's so simple a sports writer could think it through.

"How's it work?" the Major League Baseball commissioner asked.

Have the approximate $30 million a year the Marlins receive in revenue sharing put toward a stadium fund.

Quit putting it all in Marlins coffers. Use the money that rich-team owners keep providing to answer everyone's long-term Marlins problem.

This wouldn't just be a bold, public gesture to help swing an issue that, once again, might be ready to be swung. It also would assure the other owners that Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria would be off welfare some year soon.

Easy, smart, painless, right?

"No, Major League Baseball is not going to do that," Selig said.

Too easy, too smart, too painless?

"It really comes down to every community's desire and ability to make its own decisions on how to spend its money," Selig said. "Revenue sharing money is to be used for the competitive balance. Every owner understands how important that money is toward that end."

But the Marlins make a tidy profit already. They get about $30 million in revenue sharing, $18 million in national TV and $12 million in local TV. That's $60 million before selling a ticket, getting a cut of merchandising or the Nationals' expansion kitty. And their payroll is $32 million. After being under $20 million last year.

Surely every spare dollar isn't going to player development.

"Oh, you'd be surprised how expensive the minors and player development are," Selig said. "Branch Rickey, the greatest general manager, said it takes three to five years to evaluate talent."

This would be a perfect place to shift into a Bud-bashing or cheapskate-Marlins column. But that gets old and tiring and, besides, the only time there's any volume in the South Florida baseball market is rip those at the top.

As if the no-show fans aren't a bigger problem. As if Loria didn't spend money in 2003, 2004 and 2005 when he had shots at winning. As if he isn't facing the same problem previous owners John Henry and H. Wayne Huizenga did. And as if he's not putting some money toward a stadium, too — $45 million upfront as well as rent.

But imagine if baseball had the foresight to use revenue sharing as a financial and public-relations weapon when it came into existence in 2002.

"The owners get a look at how teams are using the revenue sharing money and they are very happy with how it's being spent," Selig said.

So they'd be happy putting $30 million a year, ad infinitum, toward the Marlins?

"Hopefully, we'll get a stadium soon," he said.

Wouldn't a gesture of $30-million-a-year in upfront dollars for, say, the next four years go a long way toward that? Or $20 million for five years? Something big and bold?

"That's not what revenue sharing is for," he said.

Selig has watched 23 stadiums be approved in his era as commissioner and none have been helped by baseball. He'd be opening a portal he doesn't want opened. He'd be telling every future community they'd have this chance and make those who that did without wonder why.

So, instead, he tells the rich owners to keep shoveling dollars at the Marlins. And the Marlins, no dummies, keep taking it.

"I'm optimistic it will get it done," Selig said.

Thing is, it could be done already.

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Will they finally build a retractable-roof stadium in Florida? I still have hope they will build a baseball stadium similar to Miller Park, Minute Maid Park and Chase Field. I think it's about time for fans in the vicinity of the city of Miami.

Mex4Prez
09-05-2007, 09:38 AM
sounds interesting. But would that mean the Marlins would have to keep thier payroll really low to continue to get the 30 million a year in revenue sharing untill the stadium is paid off? If it's one year that is one thing, but the players association will never agree toward having money that is supposed to go toward players go toward a building. Maybe I'm missing something.

DODGER DEB
09-14-2007, 06:06 AM
Last night on the Network Nightly News they actually aired a segment that showed only 200 FANS...that's right, 200 FANS at the Marlins/Nationals game the night before. The place look and sounded like a funeral parlor. Imagine how awful it must be for the players who have to come and play there everyday......with little or no support.

This is most unacceptable! Something must be done to remedy this. OUR great sport of Baseball cannot be allowed to fall into the abyss like this.

Something must be done to FORCE Bud Lite to address this issue. If Florida doesn't think the Marlins are worthy of a new stadium....then MOVE THEM!

c.

nymetsgiantspolo
09-14-2007, 11:46 AM
Last night on the Network Nightly News they actually aired a segment that showed only 200 FANS...that's right, 200 FANS at the Marlins/Nationals game the night before. The place look and sounded like a funeral parlor. Imagine how awful it must be for the players who have to come and play there everyday......with little or no support.

This is most unacceptable! Something must be done to remedy this. OUR great sport of Baseball cannot be allowed to fall into the abyss like this.

Something must be done to FORCE Bud Lite to address this issue. If Florida doesn't think the Marlins are worthy of a new stadium....then MOVE THEM!

c.

I'm downloading the NBC news podcast now. See, to me it being shown is a BIG deal. Folks like my dad who don't know WWW from email actually get to see what we've been showing.

It is kinda ironic that the post comes from Dodger Deb considering in the current events section, I'm arguing that either this team or the one from TB should be moved to northern nj.

-Kyle-
09-23-2007, 07:11 PM
I think a reason that the Marlins are less willing to move also is that many players from the Americas come to Florida first, so if they have any resemblance of a reputation the Marlins get the first look. Just a thought.

Silver Blaze
12-07-2007, 06:45 PM
"Revenue sharing money is to be used for the competitive balance. Every owner understands how important that money is toward that end."




That's one of the biggest jokes that Selig has come up with, and he's had some doozies.

MLB often talks about approving trades that are "in the best interests of the game." Was it really in the best interests for the Marlins to give up Cabrera and Willis, rip the face off of a struggling franchise? Will it be easier to get a new ballpark with Maybin and Miller? I really doubt it.

So far as I see, nothing is being done to hold owners of teams like Florida, Pittsburgh and Minnesota accountable for not investing more in the on-field product.

Last question: are Marlins ticket prices going to go down next year? Of course not.

Eddiey
12-14-2007, 08:42 AM
If the attached article is accurate it appears the Marlins are the closest they
have ever been to getting a new ballpark.

http://www.sptimes.com/2007/12/14/Rays/Marlins__plans_may_no.shtml

Yankees2k6
02-12-2008, 02:22 PM
Last night on the Network Nightly News they actually aired a segment that showed only 200 FANS...that's right, 200 FANS at the Marlins/Nationals game the night before. The place look and sounded like a funeral parlor. Imagine how awful it must be for the players who have to come and play there everyday......with little or no support.

This is most unacceptable! Something must be done to remedy this. OUR great sport of Baseball cannot be allowed to fall into the abyss like this.

Something must be done to FORCE Bud Lite to address this issue. If Florida doesn't think the Marlins are worthy of a new stadium....then MOVE THEM!

c.

If they hope to get crowds into the stadium, they gotta draft some star players, and WIN and WIN NOW!

Yankeebiscuitfan
02-16-2008, 02:59 PM
So the city of Miami fell for the blackmail of Loria...

Now the stadium deal is there, I hope that the city of Miami will be so wise to put a clause in the deal. A clause that will keep the Marlins in Miami for another 25 years at least. Otherwise Loria still will take the team elsewhere if the stadium attracts about 2000 per game.

brewcrew82
02-16-2008, 06:15 PM
The Marlins, Miami-Dade County, the city of Miami and Major League Baseball reached agreement late Friday to finance a $515 million ballpark at the site of the Orange Bowl, according to a source.

The agreement was not released, but was expected to be distributed to county and city commissioners, who will need to approve it. The city has scheduled a special commission meeting to consider the deal at 9 a.m. Thursday; the county commission is to meet at 1 p.m. that day.

The deal calls for the county and city to contribute $360 million mainly in tourist taxes and a $50 million general obligation bond Miami-Dade voters approved in 2004 to renovate the Orange Bowl, but which will instead be moved to the ballpark project.The Marlins are to contribute $155 million.

To read the whole article, see here (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/business/sfl-0215marlstad,0,5431696.story).

For those who don't intend on reading the article, it seems the franchise will also be changing its name to the Miami Marlins when they move into the new ballpark.