avg genetic velocity

[jamesh23]

What do you guys think the average velocity a pitcher can reach at 80-90% of their full potential? do you think everyone can reach 90 with tons of hard work or just a hand full of people can do that? im just wondering everyones opinions.

[Jake Patterson]

What do you guys think the average velocity a pitcher can reach at 80-90% of their full potential? do you think everyone can reach 90 with tons of hard work or just a hand full of people can do that? im just wondering everyones opinions.

I feel there are those who have genetic pre-dispositions. My nephew is a NCAA Big East championship team runner. He and his fellow runners are built like runners and have the gait of runners and even think like runners. No matter how much work some who did not make the team do, they can't be world class runners. I feel it's the same with pitching.

[jamesh23]

oh I see, im not talkin world class though I understand only few people will ever throw 99 like 10 or so but I mean like 87-90 mph

[Jake Patterson]

oh I see, im not talkin world class though I understand only few people will ever throw 99 like 10 or so but I mean like 87-90 mph

When compared against the whole very few HS and college baseball players can throw high 80's low 90's. In HS I would guess less than 10%.

[jamesh23]

oh I see thank you for your opinion.

[Jake Patterson]

oh I see thank you for your opinion.

James, I'll tell you what I've been telling my players for years, "All you can do is all you can do." Set reasonable goals, work hard, train... whatever happens - happens.

[scorekeeper]

When compared against the whole very few HS and college baseball players can throw high 80's low 90's. In HS I would guess less than 10%.

If you’re talking Texas or SoCal, its more like only 10% who can’t throw that hard! :rofl: :rofl:

[jamesh23]

James, I'll tell you what I've been telling my players for years, "All you can do is all you can do." Set reasonable goals, work hard, train... whatever happens - happens.

I agree im still young and I have some time to grow i might grow another 6 inches for all i know prolly like 3-4 but yea you know. anyway ill also get stronger and my bones, ligaments will mature so I should be able to throw harder normally last year I jumped about 10mph so if I do the same this year ill be happy.

[Jake Patterson]

If you’re talking Texas or SoCal, its more like only 10% who can’t throw that hard! :rofl: :rofl:
Well - every where except Texas. :p

[TG Coach]

When compared against the whole very few HS and college baseball players can throw high 80's low 90's. In HS I would guess less than 10%.

Agreed. The varsity coach told my son except for a handful of college and pro prospects expect to see 82-85. 85+ is the typical line for D2 prospects or lefty D1 prospects. It's when you get into baseball hotbeds you'll see strong teams with pitching staffs with a few 85+ pitchers.

[kylebee]

That sounds about right. On my D3 team the ace threw about 86-88 and was a lefty. He got some looks from scouts, but not much - his secondary stuff was not good and he lacked a changeup. The other guys threw in the low-mid eighties and were all righties.

[hiddengem]

The other guys threw in the low-mid eighties and were all righties.


Unfortunately, right handed pitchers in college that throw mid 80's, usually get a ticket to the real world. They are a dime a dozen.

[kylebee]

Unfortunately, right handed pitchers in college that throw mid 80's, usually get a ticket to the real world. They are a dime a dozen.

No doubt. There's no shortage of righties who throw 83-85 indy leagues, much less affiliated ball.

[jamesh23]

why is it when I watched a AAA minor league game the Isotopes vs zephyrs most of those guys threw low to mid 80's only a few surpassed 86, one guy though that was an ex pro through about 95.

[CanadianKid]

They probably have good off-speed or breaking balls and pinpoint command.

[CanadianKid]

Unfortunately, right handed pitchers in college that throw mid 80's, usually get a ticket to the real world. They are a dime a dozen.

Yupp. At the MLB tryout I attended I met a 23yr old pitcher who was hitting 84-85 and he didn't get any looks whatsoever. He even told me that if he didn't hit at least 90 he was done.

[kylebee]

why is it when I watched a AAA minor league game the Isotopes vs zephyrs most of those guys threw low to mid 80's only a few surpassed 86, one guy though that was an ex pro through about 95.

They probably sit in the mid 80's but can max out in the upper 80's or low 90's. It's also likely that at one point they threw harder than they do now.

Also, their control is probably much, much better than most players in the system.

[hiddengem]

why is it when I watched a AAA minor league game the Isotopes vs zephyrs most of those guys threw low to mid 80's only a few surpassed 86, one guy though that was an ex pro through about 95.

Where did you see that game? Alb or New Orleans?

As far as the velocity goes..don't belive what you see on the scoreboard radar gun..most of them are off. At this level..you face "pitchers" not throwers..you were probably seeing cutters, 2 seamers and stuff like that..most righties you see, can at least bring 88-90 with their best bolt.

[jamesh23]

oh it was in albuquerque,

[slugger33]

Are a lot of minor league radar guns jacked up? I went to a Single A game (Lansing Lugnuts) and a guy actually hit 100 mph a couple times.

[Drill]

When compared against the whole very few HS and college baseball players can throw high 80's low 90's. In HS I would guess less than 10%.

as i remember in this years MLB draft there were two HS kids drafted in the top ten picks who throw in the 93-95 range

drill

[Jake Patterson]

as i remember in this years MLB draft there were two HS kids drafted in the top ten picks who throw in the 93-95 range

drill
And these represent the best of what 500,000 elligible HS and college players?

[Three A's baseball]

When I was in High School I was 5 foot 8 and could throw mid 80's. Major problem no matter what the coaches did most of those were over the backstop.

I was a good centerfielder however.

[CanadianKid]

as i remember in this years MLB draft there were two HS kids drafted in the top ten picks who throw in the 93-95 range

drill

Phillipe Aumont of Quebec was one of them :clapping :D

[Jake Patterson]

When I was in High School I was 5 foot 8 and could throw mid 80's. Major problem no matter what the coaches did most of those were over the backstop.

I was a good centerfielder however.

LOL good post

[TG Coach]

as i remember in this years MLB draft there were two HS kids drafted in the top ten picks who throw in the 93-95 range

drill

A lot less than 10% of high school pitchers get drafted. Only 10% of college players get drafted.

[jamesh23]

I seen a junior kid in 5A school in albuquerque hit 90 mph a few times but couldnt throw a strike to save his life, he would drop to about 87-88 and throw strikes but idk. he came out after like 3 batters.

[CanadianKid]

I know seniors up here that hit 89-90 and top at 92. Also know a junior from BC whos in the 92-93 range.