Albright's voting guide for 9/8-9/28/07

[jalbright]

The order of posts will be:
1. Index
2. The Rules
3. BBF HOF inductees by category
4. Alphabetic listing of BBF HOF inductees
5. Player ballot results
6. Project status
7. The Limited selection list
8. Voters' guide
9. Review of players with 50% or more of vote last month
10. Review of players who have received over 50% in this project without being elected
11. New players on my ballot
12. Negro Leaguer players on my ballot
13. 19th century players on my ballot
14. Japanese players on my ballot
15. position players other than OF on my ballot
16. outfielders and pitchers on my ballot
17. Transition to players not on ballot but in my queues
18. Negro League players not on ballot but in queue/tough cases from those leagues
19. 19th century players not on ballot
20. Japanese players not on ballot
21. MLB position players other than OF not on ballot but in queue
22. MLB pitchers and OF not on ballot but in queue
23. Tough cases among MLB players from 1900 on
24. Prominent Negro League players I'm not likely to support
25. Prominent MLB players I'm not likely to support

Comments and discussion are welcome after I've got this structure up.

[jalbright]

Welcome to the Baseball Fever Hall of Fame

The Baseball Fever Hall of Fame (BBFHoF) was established to honor the greatest players and contributors in baseball history. We seek to match our wits against those of the National Hall of Fame in Cooperstown by comparing and contrasting our selections to their own. Our elections are held every three weeks.

All voters are welcome, however, prospective voters should first read our rules (in this post) and must agree to observe them.

The idea of this project has always been that each member will cast his or her own individual ballot without creating voting blocs a la "Survivor". If I become aware of violations of this concept, they will be dealt with. Toward that end, if there is more than one vote being cast from any one computer or IP, it must be cleared in advance, or only the first vote will be counted. I only anticipate exceptions for family members living in the same home, like the Chancellor and the Wizard, but I will entertain requests on other bases. Please note that I and the other mods who participate in the project have the capability of determining the IP from which posts come, and I for one intend to monitor same.

There is only one election which occurs in a three week cycle at this point: for players who meet at least one of the following criteria: a) are not on the 40 man roster or DL in the most recent season, b) officially retired (or died) by November 1 of the last completed season, c) are over 40 and haven't played in the majors in the most recent completed season. There is an election for contributors to the game, who are either retired or at least 60 years of age, but that election is now held only once a year, in the first voting cycle starting in November. Ballots must be posted in the monthly voting thread by the end of the voting cycle and adhere to the rules below in order to be counted. I will post the last day of the voting cycle in the post beginning each voting cycle. Also, I reserve the right to reject ballots which do not alphabetize the listing of candidates. The process of counting the votes is hard enough, and my spreadsheet is set up to take advantage of the tradition of alphabetized ballots.

Players from and contributors to the major, negro and japanese leagues are eligible for consideration. For clarity, I consider the following leagues part of the "negro leagues": the US American Leagues, Cuban Winter Leauge to 1950, Mexican League to 1950, Puerto Rican Winter League to 1950, the 1937 Dominican League and the California Winter League. Once inducted as either a player or contributor, an individual is no longer eligible for consideration in the other capacity. Players are to be considered based on their performance and its impact on their teams. Contributors are to be considered for the quality and impact of their contribution to their teams and/or the sport in general. (This may include a contributor's playing career.)

Any player who receives just one vote in a voting cycle goes on a limited selection list, which will be posted in the voting thread. Voters shall be limited to one plus the number of players who were elected in the previous ballot from the limited selection list. Players will go on the Limited Selection List for up to three election cycles, as follows:
first time a player is placed on the Limited Selection List (LSL), one cycle.
second time a player is placed on the LSL, two cycles unless gets two or more votes.
any subsequent time on a player is placed on the LSL, three cycles unless gets two or more votes.
Two or more votes to the candidate resets to no prior times on the LSL.

A Players Ballot should list the 20-25 most deserving eligible candidates (until we have elected at least 90% of the number of players in Cooperstown.) A Contributors Ballot should list up to the 15 most deserving candidates. When shorter ballots are permitted, the minimum number of candidates will be the number which, when added to the number elected to the BBF HOF brings us equal to the to the number of contributors or players (depending on the category in question). When new minimum vote numbers apply, they will be posted. When we get to the point where the minimum vote is zero (as with the contributor ballot), a voter may submit a ballot indicating " I do not believe there are any qualified (player/contributor) candidates".

We have now reached the point where a ballot of as few as zero (0) names is acceptable on the contributor side. We have reached the point where a player ballot fo as few as seventeen (17) names is acceptable.

Please note that once a person is elected either as a contributor or as a player, he is no longer eligible to receive votes in either category.

At the conclusion of each election (11:59:59 PM Eastern US time on the date specified in the first post of each voting thread), the votes will be tabulated and any candidate named on the greater of nine or 75% or more of the valid ballots in a given category (player or contributor) will be inducted that month.

You are allowed to change your ballot at any time the ballot is open. However, I request that you PM me (jalbright) to ensure that I am aware of the change. It would be most helpful if you could tell me who was added and/or subtracted from your ballot. I cannot agree to be responsible for monitoring the thread for any changes voters might make. If I catch them, fine, but if I don't and am not notified, the official count will be what I have been notified of, not what is on the thread.

This project is winding down, and we have rules with respect how many players we must elect in a period of time and the minimum number of participants in order to keep the project going. In terms of the number of voters, if we fail to get at least 12 voters in any two out of three voting cycles, this project will immediately go to an annual only mode, with voting in November. There is a point system for determining the minimum number of elected players to keep the project from going to a November only status. It is as follows: 1 point if we elect a player in a given voting cycle, plus two points for every player elected during that cycle. The total will be run for each of the past four voting cycles, and if we've got eight points or more, we continue as before. An example may clarify:

this June, we elected three players for 7 points (1 for the cycle, two each for the players)
in July, we elected three players for 7 points
in August, we elected no one for 0 points
in September, we elected no one for 0 points

So we had 14 points going into this month, well above the minimum of 8. However, in this month, if we don't elect anyone, we'd have 0 more points, and less than the 8 needed.

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Also, it is permissible to vote for a candidate on both the contributor and player lists

Feel free to ask questions by either sending jalbright a PM, or by posting a question in this or the BBF HOF discussion thread.

[jalbright]

Baseball Fever Hall of Fame Membership by category

210 players inducted (93% of Cooperstown's 227)
58 contributors inducted (over 100% of Cooperstown's 53)

Pitchers
Pete Alexander, Bert Blyleven, Mordecai Brown, Raymond Brown, Jim Bunning, Steve Carlton, John Clarkson, Stan Coveleski, Dizzy Dean, Don Drysdale, Dennis Eckersley, Bob Feller, Wes Ferrell, Rollie Fingers, Whitey Ford, Bill Foster, Pud Galvin, Bob Gibson, Goose Gossage, Lefty Grove, Carl Hubbell, Ferguson Jenkins, Walter Johnson, Masaichi Kaneda, Tim Keefe, Sandy Koufax, Bob Lemon, Ted Lyons, Juan Marichal, Christy Mathewson, Carl Mays, Joe McGinnity, Jose Mendez, Hal Newhouser, Kid Nichols, Phil Niekro, Satchel Paige, Jim Palmer, Gaylord Perry, Eddie Plank, Charley Radbourn, Cannonball Dick Redding, Robin Roberts, Joe Rogan, Amos Rusie, Nolan Ryan, Tom Seaver, Warren Spahn, Victor Starffin, Don Sutton, Dazzy Vance, Rube Waddell, Ed Walsh, Hoyt Wilhelm, Joe Williams, Early Wynn, Cy Young

Catchers
Johnny Bench, Yogi Berra, Roy Campanella, Gary Carter, Mickey Cochrane, Bill Dickey, Buck Ewing, Carlton Fisk, Bill Freehan, Josh Gibson, Gabby Hartnett, Biz Mackey, Katsuya Nomura, Louis Santop, Ted Simmons, Deacon White

First Basemen
Dick Allen, Cap Anson, Dan Brouthers, Orlando Cepeda, Will Clark, Roger Connor, Jimmie Foxx, Lou Gehrig, Hank Greenberg, Buck Leonard, Willie McCovey, Mark McGwire, Johnny Mize, Eddie Murray, Sadaharu Oh, George Sisler, Mule Suttles, Bill Terry

Second Basemen
Roberto Alomar, Ross Barnes, Rod Carew, Eddie Collins, Bobby Doerr, Nellie Fox, Frankie Frisch, Charlie Gehringer, Joe Gordon, Frank Grant, Bobby Grich, Billy Herman, Rogers Hornsby, Nap Lajoie, Joe Morgan, Jackie Robinson, Ryne Sandberg, Lou Whitaker

Third Basemen
Frank Baker, Wade Boggs, George Brett, Jimmy Collins, Ray Dandridge, Stan Hack, Harmon Killebrew, Eddie Mathews, Paul Molitor, Shigeo Nagashima, Brooks Robinson, Ron Santo, Mike Schmidt, Pie Traynor, Jud Wilson

Shortstops
Luke Appling, Ernie Banks, John Beckwith, Lou Boudreau, Joe Cronin, Bill Dahlen, George Davis, Barry Larkin, Pop Lloyd, Pee Wee Reese, Cal Ripken Jr., Ozzie Smith, Alan Trammell, Arky Vaughan, Honus Wagner, Willie Wells, George Wright, Robin Yount

Left Fielders
Albert Belle, Lou Brock, Jesse Burkett, Fred Clarke, Ed Delahanty, Goose Goslin, Isao Harimoto, Rickey Henderson, Monte Irvin, Joe Jackson, Joe Kelley, Ralph Kiner, Sherry Magee, Joe Medwick, Minnie Minoso, Stan Musial, Jim O'Rourke, Tim Raines, Al Simmons, Willie Stargell, Harry Stovey, Zach Wheat, Billy Williams, Ted Williams, Carl Yastrzemski

Center Fielders
Richie Ashburn, Earl Averill, Cool Papa Bell, Willard Brown, Max Carey, Oscar Charleston, Ty Cobb, Joe DiMaggio, Larry Doby, Hugh Duffy, George Gore, Billy Hamilton, Pete Hill, Paul Hines, Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, Dale Murphy, Kirby Puckett, Duke Snider, Tris Speaker, Turkey Stearnes

Right Fielders
Hank Aaron, Roberto Clemente, Sam Crawford, Andre Dawson, Martin Dihigo, Elmer Flick,Tony Gwynn, Harry Heilmann, Reggie Jackson, Al Kaline, Willie Keeler, King Kelly, Mel Ott, Dave Parker, Frank Robinson, Pete Rose, Babe Ruth, Enos Slaughter, Sam Thompson, Christobal Torriente, Paul Waner, Dave Winfield

Managers
Walter Alston, Sparky Anderson, Frank Chance, Bobby Cox, Leo Durocher, Ned Hanlon, Whitey Herzog, Miller Huggins, Hughie Jennings, Tetsuharu Kawakami, Tony LaRussa, Tommy Lasorda, Al Lopez, Connie Mack, Joe McCarthy, John McGraw, Bill McKechnie, Frank Selee, Billy Southworth, Casey Stengel, C. I. Taylor, Joe Torre, Earl Weaver, Dick Williams

Executives
Ed Barrow, Charles Comiskey, Clark Griffith, William Hulbert, Ban Johnson, Kenesaw M. Landis, Larry MacPhail, Walter O'Malley, Cum Posey, Branch Rickey, Albert Spalding, Bill Veeck, George Weiss, J.L. Wilkinson

Pioneers
Doc Adams, Sy Berger, Alexander Cartwright, Henry Chadwick, Charles Conlon, Rube Foster, Marvin Miller, Buck O'Neill, John Montgomery Ward, Harry Wright

Broadcasters
Mel Allen, Red Barber, Ernie Harwell, Vin Scully

Writers
Bill James, Francis Richter, J.G. Taylor Spink

Umpires
Tom Connolly, Bill Klem

[jalbright]

Alphabetical list of elected players and contributors:



Player ,,, pos … Contributor
Player ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, pos … Contributor
Aaron of … Adams, Doc
Alexander pos … Allen, Mel
Allen 1b … Alston, Walter
Alomar 2b … Anderson, Sparky
Anson 1b … Barber, Red
Appling ss … Barrow, Ed
Ashburn of … Berger, Sy
Averill of … Cartwright, Alexander
Baker 3b … Chadwick, Henry
Banks ss … Chance, Frank
Barnes 2b … Commiskey, Charlie
Beckwith IF … Conlon, Charles
CP Bell of … Connolly, Tom
Belle of … Cox, Bobby
Bench c … Dunn, Jack
Berra c … Durocher, Leo
Blyleven p … Foster, Rube
Boggs 3b … Griffith, Clark
Boudreau ss … Hanlon, Ned
Brett 3b … Harwell, Ernie
Brock of … Herzog, Whitey
Brouthers 1b … Huggins, Miller
3 Brown p Hulbert, Wiliiam
R. Brown p … James, Bill
W Brown of … Jennings, Hughie
Bunning p ….. Johnson, Ban
Burkett of … Kawakami, Tetsuharu
Campanellla c … Klem, Bill
Carew 2b … Landis, Kennesaw
Carey of … LaRussa, Tony
Carlton p … Lasorda, Tommy
G. Carter c … Lopez, Al
Cepeda, O. 1b … Mack, Connie
Charleston of … MacPhail. Larry
Clark, W 1b … McCarthy, Joe
Clarke of … McGraw, John
Clarkson p … McKechnie, Bill
Clemente of … Miller, Marvin
Cobb of … O'Malley, Walter
Cochrane c … O'Neill, Buck
E. Collins 2b … Posey, Cum
J. Collins 3b … Richter, Francis
Connor 1b … Rickey, Branch
Coveleski p … Scully, Vin
Crawford of … Selee, Frank
Cronin ss … Southworth, Billy
Dahlen ss … Spalding, Albert
Dandridge 3b … Spink, J. G. Taylo
G. Davis ss … Stengel, Casey
Dawson of … Taylor, C. I.
Dean p … Torre, Joe
Delahanty of ….. Veeck, Bill
Dickey c … Ward, Monte
Dihigo 2b … Weaver, Earl
J. DiMaggio of Weiss, George
Doby of … Wilkinson, J. L.
Doerr 2b … Williams, Dick
Drysdale p … Wright, Harry
Duffy of …
Eckersley p …
Ewing c …..
Feller p …
Ferrell p …
Fingers p …
Fisk c
Flick of …
Ford p …
W. Foster p …
Fox 2b …
Foxx 1b …
Freehan c …
Frisch 2b …
Galvin p …
Gehrig 1b …
Gehringer 2b …
B. Gibson p …
J. Gibson c …
Gordon 2b …
Gore of …
Goslin of …
Gossage p …
Grant 2b …
Greenberg 1b …
Grich 2b …
Grove p …
Gwynn of …
Hack 3b …
Hamilton of …
Harimoto of …
Hartnett c …
Heilmann of …
R Henderson of …
Herman 2b …
Hill of …
Hines of …
Hornsby 2b …
Hubbell p …
Irvin of …
J. Jackson of …
R Jackson of …
Jenkins p
W. Johnson p …
Kaline of …
Kaneda p …
Keefe p …
Keeler of …
J. Kelley of …
K Kelly of …
Killebrew 3b …
Kiner of …
Koufax p …
LaJoie 2b …
Larkin ss …
Lemon p …
Leonard 1b …
Lloyd ss …
Lyons p
Mackey c …
Magee of …
Mantle of …
Marichal p …
Mathews 3b …
Mathewson p …
Mays, C. p …
Mays, W. of …
McCovey 1b …
McGinnity p …
McGwire 1b …
Medwick of …
Mendez p …
Minoso of …
Mize 1b …
Molitor 3b …
Morgan 2b …
Murphy, Dale of …
Murray 1b …
Musial of …
Nagashima 3b …
Newhouser p …
Nichols p …
Niekro p ….
Nomura c …
Oh 1b …
O'Rourke of …
Ott of …
Paige p …
Palmer p …
Parker of …
G. Perry p …
Plank p …
Puckett of …
Radbourn p …
Raines of …
Redding p …
Reese ss …
Ripken ss …
Roberts p …
B. Robinson 3b …
F. Robinson of …
J. Robinson 2b …
Rogan p …
Rose of …
Rusie p …
Ruth of …
Ryan p …
Sandberg 2b …
Santo 3b …
Santop c …
Schmidt 3b …
Seaver p ….
A. Simmons of …
T Simmons c …
Sisler 1b …
Slaughter of …
O. Smith ss …
Snider of …
Spahn p …
Speaker of …
Stargell of …
Starffin p …
Stearnes of …
Stovey of …
Suttles 1b …
Sutton p …
Terry 1b …
Thompson of …
Torriente of …
Trammell ss …
Traynor 3b …
Vance p …..
Vaughan ss …
Waddell p …
Wagner ss …
Walsh p …
P Waner of
Wells ss
Wheat of
Whitaker 2b
D. White 3b
Wilhelm p
B. Williams of
J Williams p
T Williams of
J. Wilson 3b
Winfield of
Wright, G ss
E. Wynn p
Yaz of
Young p
Yount ss

[jalbright]

We've elected three this election: Ross Barnes, Frank Grant, and Lou Whitaker. We had sixteen valid ballots, and the complete results are as follows:



Name votes Name votes
Grant, Frank 13 Aparicio, Luis 9
Barnes, Ross 12 Bando, Sal 1
Whitaker, Lou 12 Barnes, Ross 12
Bennett, C 11 Beckley, Jake 9
Groh, Heinie 11 Bender, Chief 3
Inao, Kazuhisa 11 Bennett, C 11
McGriff, Fred 11 Bessho, Akira 4
Van Haltren, G 11 Bonds, Bobby 2
Grimes, B... 10 Bottomley, Jim 2
Rice, Sam 10 Boyer, Ken 9
Aparicio, Luis 9 Bresnahan, R 2
Beckley, Jake 9 Browning, Pete 8
Boyer, Ken 9 Canseco, Jose 1
Moore, Dobie 9 Caruthers, Bob 5
Ruffing, Red 9 Cepeda, Perucho 7
Smith, Hilton 9 Cravath, Gavvy 2
Wallace, Bobby 9 Cuyler, Kiki 3
Browning, Pete 8 Doyle, Larry 5
Joss, Addie 8 Evans, Darrell 6
Palmeiro, R 8 Evans, Dwight 6
Quisenberry, D 8 Faber, Red 3
Roush, Edd 8 Franco, John 1
Cepeda, Perucho 7 Glasscock, Jack 6
Klein, Chuck 7 Gomez, Lefty 3
McPhee, Bid 7 Grant, Frank 13
Sutter, Bruce 7 Grimes, B.. 10
Evans, Darrell 6 Groh, Heinie 11
Evans, Dwight 6 Hernandez, K 4
Glasscock, Jack 6 Inao, Kazuhisa 11
Caruthers, Bob 5 Johnson, Bob 2
Doyle, Larry 5 Johnson, HR 5
Johnson, HR 5 Jones, Charley 1
Rice, Jim... 5 Joss, Addie 8
Bessho, Akira 4 Kingman, Dave 1
Hernandez, K 4 Klein, Chuck 7
Manush, Heinie 4 Leach, Toimmy 1
Martinez, Edgar 4 Lombardi, Ernie 3
Ochiai, H... 4 Manush, Heinie 4
Pearce, Dickey 4 Maranville, R 1
Ryan, Jimmy 4 Martinez, Edgar 4
Sewell, Joe 4 Mathews, Bobby 1
Start, Joe 4 McCormick, Jim 1
Walker, Larry 4 McGriff, Fred 11
Welch, Mickey 4 McPhee, Bid 7
Bender, Chief 3 Moore, Dobie 9
Cuyler, Kiki 3 Mullane, Tony 1
Faber, Red 3 Nettles, Graig 1
Gomez, Lefty 3 Ochiai, H... 4
Lombardi, Ernie 3 O'Doul, Lefty 2
Perez, Tony 3 Oliva, Tony 2
Poles, Spot 3 Oliver, Al.. 2
Smith, Lee 3 Palmeiro, R 8
Willis, Vic.. 3 Pearce, Dickey 4
Wilson, Hack 3 Perez, Tony 3
Wynn, Jimmy 3 Pike, Lip... 1
Bonds, Bobby 2 Pinson, Vada 1
Bottomley, Jim 2 Poles, Spot 3
Bresnahan, R 2 Quisenberry, D 8
Cravath, Gavvy 2 Rice, Jim.... 5
Johnson, Bob 2 Rice, Sam 10
O'Doul, Lefty 2 Rixey, Eppa 2
Oliva, Tony 2 Roush, Edd 8
Oliver, Al .....2 Ruffing, Red 9
Rixey, Eppa 2 Ryan, Jimmy 4
Smith, Reggie 2 Sewell, Joe 4
Waner, Lloyd 2 Smith, Hilton 9
Bando, Sal 1 Smith, Reggie 2
Canseco, Jose 1 Smith, Lee 3
Franco, John 1 Start, Joe 4
Jones, Charley 1 Stephens, Vern 1
Kingman, Dave 1 Sutter, Bruce 7
Leach, Toimmy 1 Tiernan, Mike 1
Maranville, R 1 Van Haltren, G 11
Mathews, Bobby 1 Veach, Bobby 1
McCormick, Jim 1 Walker, Larry 4
Mullane, Tony 1 Wallace, Bobby 9
Nettles, Graig 1 Waner, Lloyd 2
Pike, Lip... 1 Welch, Mickey 4
Pinson, Vada 1 Whitaker, Lou 12
Stephens, Vern 1 Willis, Vic ...3
Tiernan, Mike 1 Wilson, Hack 3
Veach, Bobby 1 Wynn, Jimmy 3
Youngs, Ross 1 Youngs, Ross 1

[jalbright]

In accordance with the rules set out in post #2 of this thread regarding how many players must be elected to keep this project going on a basis other than annually, please see the table below recounting the last three completed voting cycles. I've also included a listing of recent cycles with less than twelve voters, in keeping with the rules on how many voters we need to have to keep the project going.



cycle end elected points
27-Jul..... 2 5
17-Aug.... 4 9
7-Sep..... 3 7
total....... 21
points needed this month 0

end dates of recent voting cycles with
less than 12 voters (2 of 3 cycles below
that level sends the project to an annual
basis) ……. none



As it stands, we need to elect 0 candidates in the next two voting cycles to keep the project from going to a November only ballot, and one in the next three voting cycles.. We are currently fine with respect to the minimum number of participants.

[jalbright]

Limited Selection List

The first list is the current list of players whose selections are limited, with how many following elections (the "after" column) they will be on the list. The second list is for players who are not currently on the list, but have been once previously. The third list is for players not currently on the list, but have been at least twice previously.



This election after listed once previously listed at least twice previously
Franco, John* 1 Bando, Sal
Kingman, Dave 0 Bender, Chief
Maranville, R* 0 Bond, Tommy
Mathews, Bobby* 0 Bresnahan, R
McCormick, Jim* 0 Canseco, Jose
Mullane, Tony* 1 Carter. Joe
Pike, Lip... 0 Cash, Norm
Pinson, Vada* 0 Chesbro, Jack
Stephens, Vern* 0 Cicotte, Eddie
Tiernan, Mike 0 Combs, Earle
Veach, Bobby* 0 Cuyler, Kiki
Youngs, Ross* 0 Davis, Chili
………………………… 0 Fielder, Cecil
………………………… 0 Garvey, Steve
………………………… 0 Grace, Mark
………………………… 0 Hooper, Harry
………………………… 0 Howard, Frank
………………………… 0 Hunter, Catfish
………………………… 0 Jones, Charley
………………………… 0 Leach, Tommy
………………………… 0 Lindstrom, Freddie
………………………… 0 Marquard, Rube
………………………… 0 McVey, Cal
………………………… 0 Nettles, Graig
………………………… 0 O'Doul, Lefty
………………………… 0 Perez, Tony
………………………… 0 Orr, Dave
………………………… 0 Rosen, Al
………………………… 0 Smith, Reggie
………………………… 0 Staub, Rusty
………............... 0 Mullane, Tony
………………………… 0 Vernon, Mickey
………………………… 0 Waner, Lloyd
………………………… 0 White, Will

[jalbright]

Albright BBF HOF voting guide for 9/8 - 9/28/07

key:
blue=Negro Leagues
red=Japanese leagues
green=19th century
orange=not even in my queue
italics= not on my ballot for this month

Received 50% or more of the vote last month:
Players: Luis Aparicio (56), Jake Beckley (56), Charlie Bennett (69), Ken Boyer (56), Pete Browning (50), Burleigh Grimes (63), Heinie Groh (69), Kazuhisa Inao (69), Addie Joss (50), Fred McGriff (69), Dobie Moore (56), Rafael Palmeiro (50), Dan Quisenberry (50), Sam Rice (63), Edd Roush (50), Red Ruffing (56), Hilton Smith (56), George Van Haltren (69), Bobby Wallace (56)

Categories below this will have 1) all players with 50% or more of the votes last month (percentages from last month will follow their names in parentheses), 2) all players on my ballot, and 3) if there are no players in the category with over 50% of the vote last month, the leading vote getter in the category will be listed with his percentage of the vote last month in parentheses, so long as he received at least five (5) votes.

Negro League Pitcher Hilton Smith (56)

Negro League Hitters Perucho Cepeda (44), Home Run Johnson (31), Dobie Moore (56)

19th century pitcher

19th century hitter: Jake Beckley (56), Pete Browning (50), Jack Glasscock (38), Joe Start, George Van Haltren (69)

Japanese pitcher: Akira Bessho, Kazuhisa Inao (69)

Japanese hitter: Hiromitsu Ochiai

My ballot by position plus leading vote getters
Catcher: Charlie Bennett (69)
First Base: Jake Beckley (56), Hiromitsu Ochiai, Fred McGriff (69), Rafael Palmeiro (50), Joe Start
Second Base: Larry Doyle (31), Bid McPhee (44)
Third Base: Ken Boyer (56), Darrell Evans (38), Heinie Groh (69)
Shortstop: Luis Aparicio (56), Perucho Cepeda (44), Jack Glasscock (38), Home Run Johnson (31), Dobie Moore (56), Bobby Wallace (56)
Outfield: Pete Browning (50), Sam Rice (63), George Van Haltren (69)
Starting Pitcher: Akira Bessho, Burleigh Grimes (63), Kazuhisa Inao (69) , Eppa Rixey, Red Ruffing (56), Hilton Smith (56), Vic Willis
Relief pitcher Dan Quisenberry (50), Bruce Sutter (44)

Plugs for first time player candidates will appear in the discussion thread, and I will create a thread which will provide the plugs for all the holdovers on my ballot not covered in the discussion thread this month.

[jalbright]

Players with 50% or more of the vote last month

On my ballot this month

Luis Aparicio (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=545948&postcount=281)

Charlie Bennett (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=393654&postcount=165)

Ken Boyer (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=546225&postcount=284)

Burleigh Grimes (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=443047&postcount=211)

Heinie Groh (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=541455&postcount=268)

Kazuhisa Inao (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=404359&postcount=176)

Dobie Moore (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361398&postcount=59)

Dan Quisenberry (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=466735&postcount=231)

Sam Rice (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=545914&postcount=276)

Red Ruffing (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=408323&postcount=184)

Hilton Smith (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361397&postcount=58)

George Van Haltren (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=540589&postcount=264)

Bobby Wallace (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=389113&postcount=160)

Players I'm not supporting and why

Jake Beckley ( http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=631272&postcount=305 )

Pete Browning (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=748061&postcount=324)

Addie Joss (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=485853&postcount=240)

Fred McGriff (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=457494&postcount=228)

Rafael Palmeiro (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=901922&postcount=329)

Edd Roush (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=781733&postcount=326)

[jalbright]

I decided to compile all the players since May 2006 (when I took over this project) who have gotten over 50% of the vote at least once without getting elected so far. The results are as follows (broken down alphabetically, by times over 50%, and by highest single vote percentage):



player…………. times pct player……… times pct player……. times pct
Aparicio, Luis 7 69 Groh, Heinie 10 69 Sutter, Bruce 5 71
Beckley, Jake 3 62 Aparicio, Luis 7 69 Aparicio, Luis 7 69
Bennett, C 4 69 Boyer, Ken 5 57 Bennett, C 4 69
Boyer, Ken 5 57 Browning, Pete 5 59 Groh, Heinie 10 69
Browning, Pete 5 59 Rice, Sam 5 69 Inao, Kazuhisa 3 69
Grimes, B…. 1 63 Sutter, Bruce 5 71 McGriff, Fred 4 69
Groh, Heinie 10 69 Bennett, C 4 69 Rice, Sam 5 69
Inao, Kazuhisa 3 69 Joss, Addie 4 58 Van Haltren, G 1 69
Joss, Addie 4 58 McGriff, Fred 4 69 Palmeiro, R 3 67
Klein, Chuck 1 52 Beckley, Jake 3 62 Grimes, B…. 1 63
McGriff, Fred 4 69 Inao, Kazuhisa 3 69 Beckley, Jake 3 62
Moore, Dobie 1 56 Palmeiro, R 3 67 Browning, Pete 5 59
Palmeiro, R 3 67 Wallace, Bobby 3 56 Welch, Mickey 3 59
Rice, Sam 5 69 Welch, Mickey 3 59 Joss, Addie 4 58
Ruffing, Red 1 56 Grimes, B…. 1 63 Boyer, Ken 5 57
Smith, Hilton 1 56 Klein, Chuck 1 52 Moore, Dobie 1 56
Sutter, Bruce 5 71 Moore, Dobie 1 56 Ruffing, Red 1 56
Van Haltren, G 1 69 Ruffing, Red 1 56 Smith, Hilton 1 56
Wallace, Bobby 3 56 Smith, Hilton 1 56 Wallace, Bobby 3 56
Welch, Mickey 3 59 Van Haltren, G 1 69 Klein, Chuck 1 52

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New players on my ballot:

Eppa Rixey (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=395028&postcount=166)

Joe Start (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361596&postcount=95)

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Negro Leaguers

Pitchers

Hilton Smith (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361397&postcount=58)

Position players

Perucho Cepeda (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361551&postcount=75)

Home Run Johnson (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361381&postcount=48)

Dobie Moore (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361398&postcount=59)

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19th century players

Pitcher:

Position players:

Charlie Bennett (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=393654&postcount=165)

Jack Glasscock (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=541463&postcount=271)

Joe Start (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361596&postcount=95)

George Van Haltren (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=540589&postcount=264)

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Japanese Players

Pitchers

Kazuhisa Inao (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=404359&postcount=176)

Akira Bessho (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=409062&postcount=187)


Position Players

Hiromitsu Ochiai (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=409082&postcount=188)

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position players other than OF on my ballot

Catcher

Charlie Bennett (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=393654&postcount=165)

First Base

Hiromitsu Ochiai (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=409082&postcount=188)

Joe Start (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361596&postcount=95)

Second Base

Larry Doyle (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=443705&postcount=222)

Bid McPhee (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=541457&postcount=269)


Third Base

Ken Boyer (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=546225&postcount=284)

Darrell Evans (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=547259&postcount=287)

Heinie Groh (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=541455&postcount=268)

Shortstop

Luis Aparicio (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=545948&postcount=281)

Perucho Cepeda (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361551&postcount=75)

Jack Glasscock (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=541463&postcount=271)

Home Run Johnson (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361381&postcount=48)

Dobie Moore (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361398&postcount=59)

Bobby Wallace (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=389113&postcount=160)

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Outfielders and Pitchers on my ballot

Outfielders

Sam Rice (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=545914&postcount=276)

George Van Haltren (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=540589&postcount=264)

Pitchers

Akira Bessho (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=409062&postcount=187)

Burleigh Grimes (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=443047&postcount=211)

Kazuhisa Inao (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=404359&postcount=176)

Dan Quisenberry (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=466735&postcount=231)

Eppa Rixey (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=395028&postcount=166)

Red Ruffing (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=408323&postcount=184)

Hilton Smith (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361397&postcount=58)

Bruce Sutter (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=466733&postcount=230)

Vic Willis (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=425940&postcount=202)

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At this point, we stop dealing with who is on my ballot, and start dealing with who is left in my queues and the reasons for those selections.

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Negro League players not on my ballot but in my queue and tough cases from those leagues

Negro League position players not yet on my ballot:

Alejandro Oms (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361402&postcount=60)

Negro League Pitchers not yet on my ballot

Leon Day (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361390&postcount=54)

Tough calls from the Negro Leagues

Dick Lundy (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361551&postcount=75)

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19th century players not yet on my ballot

Hardy Richardson (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=393617&postcount=163)

Ezra Sutton (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=393634&postcount=164)


Tony Mullane (pitcher) (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=370012&postcount=139)

Hard cases from the 19th century

Herman Long (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=541460&postcount=270)

Some good 19th century players I don't think I can support and why

Jake Beckley ( http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=631272&postcount=305 )

Pete Browning (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=748061&postcount=324)

Bob Caruthers (pitcher) (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=547693&postcount=288)

Lip Pike (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361594&postcount=94)

Jimmy Ryan (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=902288&postcount=331)

Mickey Welch (pitcher) (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=413488&postcount=190)

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Japanese pitchers not yet on my ballot:

Masaaki Koyama (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=409058&postcount=186)

Yutaka Enatsu (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=409056&postcount=185)


Tough case from Japan

Koji Yamamoto (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=409094&postcount=189)

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Major league infielders from 20th century and after:

Sal Bando (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=541453&postcount=267)

Tony Perez (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=443202&postcount=216)

Vern Stephens (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=540615&postcount=266)

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Major league pitchers and outfielders from 1900 on


Major league outfielders from 20th century and after:


Major league pitchers from 20th century and after

Billy Pierce (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=542251&postcount=273)

Bucky Walters (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=542245&postcount=272)

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Tough choices from 20th century and after MLB:


Kevin Brown (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=631270&postcount=304)

Wilber Cooper (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=545954&postcount=283)

Red Faber (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=545932&postcount=278)

Catfish Hunter (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=545909&postcount=275)

Tommy Leach (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=547259&postcount=287)

Rabbit Maranville (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=547259&postcount=287)

Graig Nettles (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=547259&postcount=287)

Herb Pennock (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=547259&postcount=287)

Johnny Pesky (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=545940&postcount=280)

Phil Rizzuto (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=994536&postcount=339)

Joe Sewell (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=547259&postcount=287)

Hack Wilson (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=994535&postcount=338)

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Some prominent Negro Leaguers I'm not likely to support and why:

Bingo DeMoss (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=368356&postcount=133)

Judy Johnson (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=368357&postcount=134)

Oliver Marcelle (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=368356&postcount=133)

Spotswood Poles (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=368354&postcount=132)

Ben Taylor (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=368356&postcount=133)

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Prominent major league candidates I'm not likely to support and why:


Bobby Bonds (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=387233&postcount=159)

Roger Bresnahan (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=369471&postcount=136)

Joe Carter (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=363435&postcount=125)

Kiki Cuyler (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=631265&postcount=301)

Dwight Evans (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=901937&postcount=330)

Steve Garvey (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=363442&postcount=126)

Lefty Gomez (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=853045&postcount=328)

Keith Hernandez (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=531939&postcount=257)

Gil Hodges (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=367384&postcount=131)

Bob Johnson (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=712366&postcount=319)

Addie Joss (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=485853&postcount=240)

Chuck Klein (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=380614&postcount=155)

Heinie Manush (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=631266&postcount=302)

Roger Maris (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=421141&postcount=193)

Edgar Martinez ( http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=631268&postcount=303 )

Bill Mazeroski (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=363248&postcount=124)

Fred McGriff (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=457494&postcount=228)

Tony Oliva (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=481524&postcount=237)

Rafael Palmiero (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=901922&postcount=329)

Jim Rice (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=363435&postcount=125)

Edd Roush (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=781733&postcount=326)

Larry Walker (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=722877&postcount=322)

Maury Wills (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=608273&postcount=299)

Jimmy Wynn (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=386606&postcount=157)

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Here are the guys who as I write are projecting within a vote of election, though changes in the electorate can certainly upset these projections:

First, the two I don't support: Fred McGriff and Ross Barnes. I won't detail the reasons unless asked, because this post is more about who to support. I feel I should mention these two in the interest of fairness, and it doesn't seem too fair to add a delineation of why I don't support them.

The others are:

Charlie Bennett (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=393654&postcount=165)

Frank Grant (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=361376&postcount=47)

Heinie Groh (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=541455&postcount=268)

Kazuhisa Inao (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=404359&postcount=176)

Lou Whitaker (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=547259&postcount=287)

Lou Whitaker needs the change of an existing vote, as all seven outstanding voters supported him last election. Whitaker has been over 50% the most times without being elected, and is tied for having the highest percentage without being elected (71%). It's really about time to push him over the top, folks.

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Here's the status of the vote: we've got six outstanding votes from last month as I write. I will post below my projection assuming all six vote, we get no new valid ballots, and that anyone with less than 25 names on their ballot doesn't add any. I'll bet all three conditions aren't met, but they're the safest assumptions I can make. Those who need six votes cannot get in with any less--they need six to get to 75%. Those who need five need at least two, and cannot miss any unless six votes are cast. Those who need four need at least one, can absorb one miss if between two and five votes are cast, and can absorb two if six votes are cast.



name.............. needed prior pct
Grant, Frank..... 4 4 96
Whitaker, Lou... 6 6 94
Barnes, Ross.... 4 3 77
Inao, Kazuhisa.. 5 4 68
McGriff, Fred.... 5 4 68
Rice, Sam........ 5 3 46
Bennett, Charlie 6 5 43
Groh, Heinie..... 6 5 43
Beckley, Jake... 5 2 35
Boyer, Ken...... 5 2 35
Roush, Edd...... 5 1 28
Aparicio, Luis... 6 3 15
Grimes, Burleigh 6 3 15
Wallace, Bobby.. 6 3 15
Van Haltren, G... 6 2 11
Klein, Chuck.... 6 1 9



Jim Albright

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I'm updating the information and retitling the thread to reflect the fact I'm using it for the 9/8-9/28 election.

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Status of the voting:

I'm going to list everyone whose current vote total plus the outstanding votes from last election totals 9 or more, and give an approximation of their chances of election this month. "Exp" is the number of votes received from the voters who voted last election but not yet in this one, "proj" is "exp" plus actual votes, and "chance" is the estimation of the likelihood this player will make it this election.



player..... votes exp proj chance

McGriff.... 6 6 12 92
van Haltren 4 8 12 91
Inao....... 6 5 11 79
H. Smith.. 6 5 11 79
Bennett... 5 6 11 74
Groh....... 5 6 11 74
Beckley... 5 5 10 56
P. Cepeda.. 5 5 10 56
S. Rice.... 5 5 10 56
Grimes..... 4 6 10 44
Wallace.... 5 4 9 45
Aparicio.... 4 5 9 33
Browning.. 4 5 9 33
D. Moore.. 3 6 9 15
Ruffing.... 3 6 9 15

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Status of the voting

I'm going to list everyone who is projected to have a total of 10 or more votes (12 is expected to be the 75% mark) where "exp" is the number of votes received from last election's voters who haven't voted yet in this election and chance is an attempt to evaluate the percentage chance a player will be elected this time.



Name………... votes exp chance
McGriff……. 8 4 96
van Haltren 6 6 94
Inao……….. 6 5 67
H. Smith….. 6 5 67
Bennett…… 6 5 67
Groh………. 6 5 67
Beckley…… 7 3 58
P. Cepeda.. 5 5 22
S. Rice…… 6 4 45