View Full Version : Home Run or not?
DrawdeGreby
08-14-2007, 12:38 PM
My friend and I had a discussion regarding how this situation would be ruled before the "ground-rule double" rule for home runs that bounced into the stands in fair territory came into effect and could not reach agreement... a player hits a fly ball that lands in fair territory and then bounces into the stands in foul territory. What is it? A home-run? A double?
CanadianKid
08-14-2007, 12:56 PM
Ground rule double.
Chris O'Leary
08-14-2007, 01:02 PM
My friend and I had a discussion regarding how this situation would be ruled before the "ground-rule double" rule for home runs that bounced into the stands in fair territory came into effect and could not reach agreement... a player hits a fly ball that lands in fair territory and then bounces into the stands in foul territory. What is it? A home-run? A double?
Ground rule double.
Happens all the time.
TG Coach
08-14-2007, 01:11 PM
My friend and I had a discussion regarding ------->>>how this situation would be ruled before the "ground-rule double" rule for home runs that bounced into the stands in fair territory came into effect<<<--- and could not reach agreement... a player hits a fly ball that lands in fair territory and then bounces into the stands in foul territory. What is it? A home-run? A double?
Are you asking about old time baseball? I'm not sure when the rule changed, but until sometime in the late 19-teens, a ball that bounced into the stands was a home run. The rule was changed to be a ground rule double. If anyone is wondering why it didn't create a lot of home runs, the ball used to be softer. Frank Baker got the nickname "Home Run" Baker for hitting seven homers one season.
DrawdeGreby
08-14-2007, 02:15 PM
Perhaps I wasn't clear when I first laid out my question... I know it's a ground-rule double now. And, I know that a ball that bounced "first" in "fair" territory and then into the stands in "fair" territory used to be a home-run until it became a ground-rule double in 1931. My question is, what was it when it bounced "first" in "fair" territory and then into the stands in "foul" territory? Was it still a home-run or was some distinction made using the "fair when last seen" by the umpires rule which existed back then. What was it?
TG Coach
08-14-2007, 03:47 PM
Perhaps I wasn't clear when I first laid out my question... I know it's a ground-rule double now. And, I know that a ball that bounced "first" in "fair" territory and then into the stands in "fair" territory used to be a home-run until it became a ground-rule double in 1931. My question is, what was it when it bounced "first" in "fair" territory and then into the stands in "foul" territory? Was it still a home-run or was some distinction made using the "fair when last seen" by the umpires rule which existed back then. What was it?
I don't know what the call was back then. I would think it would have to go over the fence to be a homer. There's an old time basebal section. Ask there. There's a poster "TonyK" who has a recent post in the Amateur section. Dig up the post and PM him. I believe he's an old time baseball semi-expert.
TrojanSkipper
08-15-2007, 04:22 AM
It's a "rule book double" not a 'ground rule double"... doesn't matter what park you are playing in.
bluezebra
08-15-2007, 12:15 PM
It's a "rule book double" not a 'ground rule double"... doesn't matter what park you are playing in.
Thank you. Another mis-information passed on by the fools in the announcers' booths.
Bob
TG Coach
08-15-2007, 12:27 PM
It's a "rule book double" not a 'ground rule double"... doesn't matter what park you are playing in.
The original poster is asking about the era when it was considered a home run if the ball bounced over the fence. He wants to know what happened when the ball hit in fair territory in the outfield but bounced into the stands in front of the foul pole.