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TonyStarks
07-13-2007, 12:23 PM
Yankee fan here....:happy:

I would love for Cashman to try and pry Salty away from you folks.
Just wondering what you think it would take?

Keep in mind any mention of anyone named Hughes, Tabata, or Joba may produce snickers.

SamtheBravesFan
07-13-2007, 12:43 PM
Then you, my friend, are seriously out of luck. If the Yankees aren't willing to give their best to us, why should we even listen? Saltalamacchia is the best thing the Braves have going for them in terms of prospects. Besides, and I mean this from the bottom of my heart, if Jarrod Saltalamacchia gets traded to the Yankees, I will renounce my Braves fandom and call for the firing of John Schuerholz. I mean that.

TheJourneyman
07-13-2007, 12:56 PM
Have to agree with Sam. You say you'll snicker but you want our best prospect without parting with one or yours?

KCGHOST
07-13-2007, 01:07 PM
In recent years the only trades/deals Cashman has been able to pull off is where his trading partner (i.e. victim) is trying to unload someone expensive. Tough to browbeat someone about taking a player making the major league minimum.

SamtheBravesFan
07-13-2007, 01:34 PM
In recent years the only trades/deals Cashman has been able to pull off is where his trading partner (i.e. victim) is trying to unload someone expensive. Tough to browbeat someone about taking a player making the major league minimum.

Wait, who are you aiming this at? :confused:

PureBaseballFan
07-13-2007, 02:24 PM
Salty will not go anywhere unless they get Hughes and Melky nothing else would really make any sense. If the Yankees don't want to give up Hughes then another top pitching prospect or Chien-Ming Wang would do it but that is just a pipedream for me. Also with Posada going so well they don't really need him sure he is older but the Yankees still have time to find a replacement. If a team in the AL East needs a catcher for the future it seems like the Red Sox Varitek seems to be in the slow decline that catchers usually have. If the Braves were going to trade Salty it would be for a Teixeira or an ace/sub ace like Roy Oswalt nothing less would pry him from the Braves. Of course I don't think anyone of those would be swaps but Salty would be packaged with another top prospect.

I live in upstate New York and I don't have as much disdain for them as I do with the Mets or Red Sox. I hear some Yankees fan who know about Salty and want him in NYC but I just can't see that happening when the Braves need a solid number 3 starter in my opinion more of a veteran and not a rookie although I wouldn't be against Hughes or Chamberlain in a Braves uniform but I don't see it happening.

Tomahawk Dynasty
07-13-2007, 04:47 PM
Yankee fan here....:happy:

I would love for Cashman to try and pry Salty away from you folks.
Just wondering what you think it would take?

Keep in mind any mention of anyone named Hughes, Tabata, or Joba may produce snickers.

If you won't trade those prospects, perhaps we could give you this guy instead of Salty. He hits for decent power, has so-so speed, but he has the ability to be a 5-tool player.

Link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU)

SamtheBravesFan
07-13-2007, 05:48 PM
If you won't trade those prospects, perhaps we could give you this guy instead of Salty. He hits for decent power, has so-so speed, but he has the ability to be a 5-tool player.

Link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU)

:laugh Oh, that's GOOD.

Atlanta Braves Freak
07-13-2007, 08:57 PM
If you won't trade those prospects, perhaps we could give you this guy instead of Salty. He hits for decent power, has so-so speed, but he has the ability to be a 5-tool player.

Link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU)
Well, I'll be darned. I've just been RickRolled!! :laugh :laugh

TonyStarks
07-15-2007, 11:22 AM
Then you, my friend, are seriously out of luck. If the Yankees aren't willing to give their best to us, why should we even listen? Saltalamacchia is the best thing the Braves have going for them in terms of prospects. Besides, and I mean this from the bottom of my heart, if Jarrod Saltalamacchia gets traded to the Yankees, I will renounce my Braves fandom and call for the firing of John Schuerholz. I mean that.

Don't get me wrong...I'm not trying to rob anyone.

But Joba, Hughes or Tabata I just cannot and will no part with.
Anything else is pretty much on the table.

Whelan, Kennedy, Clippard, Jackson.....

SamtheBravesFan
07-15-2007, 02:17 PM
Don't get me wrong...I'm not trying to rob anyone.

But Joba, Hughes or Tabata I just cannot and will no part with.
Anything else is pretty much on the table.

Whelan, Kennedy, Clippard, Jackson.....

And I don't know who the hell any of them are. However, I do know this. I do NOT want Saltalmacchia traded to the Yankees. Even if the Yankees are royally screwed over, I wouldn't want it done. So you'll have to ask someone else what they think, because I don't like that idea in the first place.

TheJourneyman
07-15-2007, 02:51 PM
Don't get me wrong...I'm not trying to rob anyone.

But Joba, Hughes or Tabata I just cannot and will no part with.
Anything else is pretty much on the table.

Whelan, Kennedy, Clippard, Jackson.....

and i think that's how most Braves fans feel about Salty - they just don't want to see him go. i could be wrong but i don't want him going anywhere right now

SamtheBravesFan
07-15-2007, 03:14 PM
Tony, you do realize that if we traded Saltalamacchia, we'd have the worst first-base platoon in the majors, right?

AznInvasion
07-15-2007, 03:17 PM
The yankees are the last team i want to see Salty on. So I have to agree with Sam on this one.

SamtheBravesFan
07-15-2007, 03:46 PM
How 'bout that? I'm leading the charge! :rofl: ;)

TheJourneyman
07-15-2007, 04:14 PM
How 'bout that? I'm leading the charge! :rofl: ;)

I do have to say that was a clutch post.
:laugh :nod: :D :waving :gt

PureBaseballFan
07-15-2007, 04:48 PM
Of the Yankees aren't willing to give up Joba or Hughes then why would we trade Salty? There is a chance we could do a package to get someone from Pitts like Snell or Gorzelanny who have proven they can do it in the majors. Yankees aren't getting Salty unless they give up Hughes or Wang short of that you can end this discussion now.

SamtheBravesFan
07-15-2007, 05:05 PM
I do have to say that was a clutch post.
:laugh :nod: :D :waving :gt

AGGGGHHHHHH! *dies*

Stop doing that! :laugh

TonyStarks
07-15-2007, 08:37 PM
Tony, you do realize that if we traded Saltalamacchia, we'd have the worst first-base platoon in the majors, right?

Would a Doug Menwhateverhisnameis cure your ills? :laugh

I really like the guy and think him backing up Posada for a season or two and then taking over would be a fantasy come true.

And I just read that Johnny won't take anything less than a Mark Buerhle type pitcher for Salty. Bit too much if you ask me.

The guy has great potential, no disrespect but it's just that right now potential. You don't believe that a Buehrle type of pitcher is alot to ask for?

AznInvasion
07-15-2007, 08:48 PM
It's not totally out of the question. There's a risk with Buehrle that he's only a 2nd-half rental if he was actually traded (before the extension). If we did trade Salty for Buerhle we'd probably have to add something but it wouldn't be very substantial in my opinion. Doug Mienkietwicz or whatever would not help much. We need a bat at 1b not only a glove.

randy
07-15-2007, 08:57 PM
Would you be willing to put include him in a package to get Texeira from Texas?

AznInvasion
07-15-2007, 09:05 PM
I'm not sure if we would or not. I think we'd be adding alot of salary...don't know what he makes exactly. I'm hesitant to trade Salty for anything right now except young pitching. Our priorities are probably ranked like this:

1. a back end starter
2. 1st base
3. relief pitcher

Although u could make a case for relief pitcher being needed more than the 1st baseman. Any kind of package with Salty included will be tough to part with.

TheJourneyman
07-15-2007, 09:07 PM
Would you be willing to put include him in a package to get Texeira from Texas?

NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! let Tex go to Balt where he can lose the rest of his career

randy
07-15-2007, 09:36 PM
..and we could add in Gagne, maybe Millwood or Padilla and solve all your issues..interested????

SamtheBravesFan
07-15-2007, 09:43 PM
..and we could add in Gagne, maybe Millwood or Padilla and solve all your issues..interested????

Hahaha, you a funny man, you make me raff.

SamtheBravesFan
07-15-2007, 09:44 PM
NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! let Tex go to Balt where he can lose the rest of his career

Huh? What do you mean? Is it just because he'd be a rental?

Anyway, I just find this whole discussion pointless because it's not in our best interest to trade Saltalamacchia unless a trade is insanely in our favor and works with our budget so we can keep what we get. I'd just rather have him stay in Atlanta, because that is not going to happen.

TheJourneyman
07-15-2007, 09:49 PM
Huh? What do you mean? Is it just because he'd be a rental?

Anyway, I just find this whole discussion pointless because it's not in our best interest to trade Saltalamacchia unless a trade is insanely in our favor and works with our budget so we can keep what we get. I'd just rather have him stay in Atlanta.

Tex is a poison. He pisses and moans about everything and rarely (today is one of the few exceptions) hits in a game when the rangers aren't up by 10. He is a boras client and will only be a rental because Atl won't pay to keep him.

AznInvasion
07-15-2007, 10:27 PM
..and we could add in Gagne, maybe Millwood or Padilla and solve all your issues..interested????

I don't get why u got all angry. I simply stated our priorities in trading. I wasn't asking for all of those things by any means.

TheJourneyman
07-15-2007, 10:45 PM
I don't get why u got all angry. I simply stated our priorities in trading. I wasn't asking for all of those things by any means.

Ha being a Ranger fan too I would trade all those guys just for Salty. Shoot I might even do it for Woodward at this point. If he is like a lot of other Ranger fans he just wants the team blown up and rebuilt - which thanks to our POS owner and stupid Dumb Fxxx GM that probably won't happen.

randy
07-16-2007, 06:55 AM
Not angry at all. Journeyman is right-blow it up and start over. Thought you were a rangers fan, journeyman?

PureBaseballFan
07-16-2007, 07:12 AM
Would a Doug Menwhateverhisnameis cure your ills? :laugh

I really like the guy and think him backing up Posada for a season or two and then taking over would be a fantasy come true.

And I just read that Johnny won't take anything less than a Mark Buerhle type pitcher for Salty. Bit too much if you ask me.

The guy has great potential, no disrespect but it's just that right now potential. You don't believe that a Buehrle type of pitcher is alot to ask for?I don't think it would be to much to ask for because it would most likely not be a straight swap but a package with Salty in it. Salty is a switch hitting power hitter that plays a good catcher there aren't that many of those out there. It will take a great deal for the Braves to trade Salty and if they do trade him I think they would be more likely to do it in the offseason.


Would you be willing to put include him in a package to get Texeira from Texas?There really wouldn't be a point to that trade when it comes to the Braves. Tex will most likely get 20 million in 1 and a half years which he most likely won't get from the Braves. Also the way Salty produces it will be likely that Salty and Tex stats will be close to the same so why would the Braves give up a young cheap option at first that they have locked up for years for a guy that they will get pretty much the same production only for more money and will not be there in 2 years.

TheJourneyman
07-16-2007, 11:51 AM
Not angry at all. Journeyman is right-blow it up and start over. Thought you were a rangers fan, journeyman?

I am both. Grew up in Texas but grew up on TBS.

adamsowell
07-16-2007, 05:39 PM
Ian Snell from Pitsburg for Salty?

I heard this rumor.... wonder if its worth it?

SamtheBravesFan
07-16-2007, 05:52 PM
Ian Snell from Pitsburg for Salty?

I heard this rumor.... wonder if its worth it?

I've heard it too, and while it COULD make sense for Atlanta in the long run, Pittsburgh has nothing to gain from it because they have two catchers and LaRoche at first.

PureBaseballFan
07-16-2007, 07:16 PM
From what I have read they thought Paulino was the future but this season has turned them off on him some. I think with the repeated rumors about the Pirates wanting Salty means they don't think that Doumit or Paulino is the future at catcher.

SamtheBravesFan
07-16-2007, 07:26 PM
From what I have read they thought Paulino was the future but this season has turned them off on him some. I think with the repeated rumors about the Pirates wanting Salty means they don't think that Doumit or Paulino is the future at catcher.

Ugh, I just don't like where this whole thing is heading. I sense disaster.