Icing Your Arm?

[tisting9]

Is icing your arm good when it is sore? Is heat good for it? What other things should you do for your arm?

[jamesh23]

i would also like to know mine hurts on my elbow and i've been icing it for about 15 minutes, letting it get back to normal temp and heating it for 15 minutes, and i take some ibuprofen and rub icy hot on it.

[scorekeeper]

Is icing your arm good when it is sore? Is heat good for it? What other things should you do for your arm?

i would also like to know mine hurts on my elbow and i've been icing it for about 15 minutes, letting it get back to normal temp and heating it for 15 minutes, and i take some ibuprofen and rub icy hot on it.

What you’re gonna get for an answer in a forum like this, is a lot of personal opinions, not likely sound medical advice from a trained physician or therapist. So, with that understood, I’d like to throw in my opinion on the matter.

If you’re still living with your parents or guardians, get them to make a consulting appointment for you and them, with the person you’d be going to if you had a for real sports injury.

Then, listen carefully, take note notes, then follow that person’s advice!

[Centerfielder2]

I don't know if you'll be able to do this, but at my high school. Ill just jump on the electro stem machine and then put ice over top for 15 minutes and it will start to feel really good.

[MCBaseball13]

I don't know if you'll be able to do this, but at my high school. Ill just jump on the electro stem machine and then put ice over top for 15 minutes and it will start to feel really good.

I had to get that done on my quad this year because i strained it, it feels soooo good.

my .02

[baseballer6]

I was on a team with a kid who's father pitched professionally only made it to AAA though. He was coached by Robin Roberts and he said that after you throw a lot or if you are sore, to run some sprints, jog, or do something to get you dripping with sweat. This will help to take away the lactic acid build up. He also said heat is very good for the muscles. I would ice your arm for 20 minutes, then get like a heating pad and put that on for another 20 minutes, and then go for a long jog to get you sweating hard. Then I'd ice/20 heat/20 ice/20 and then Jump in a hot shower. If that doesn't work try and ice/20 then heat/20 after the shower. This is what Robin had his pitchers do and it's also what I have done the whole season and my arm has felt better then ever. But I would also second going to the doc if this doesn't work. Good Luck

p.s. When you have to throw I would recommend getting a compression sleeve of some sort.

[jamesh23]

k thanks tomorrow is when we leave at 6 im gonna ice it tonight and heat it along with icy hot, then tomorrow morning early ice/heat again and go on a 3 mile jog, I also heard that it moves out the lactic acid in your arm.

[baseballer6]

Yea it really works.

[CanadianKid]

I'm no expert in medicine but I believe pain in the elbow after pitching is NOT good. If you are sore in the bicep after pitching (where I usually end up being sore) its mainly because your muscle is tired. I'd get that checked out by a doctor though. A guy on my team always has pain there, but he's too stubborn to go see a doctor.

[slugger33]

Daisuke never ices his arm.

[scorekeeper]

Daisuke never ices his arm.

I think you’d better chew on that one a bit before you spit it out.

Go to http://www.bradfordfiles.com/?m=20070516

Go down to the 3rd paragraph from the bottom and read!

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Go down to the 11th paragraph of “Mr. Tambourine Man”, and read!

Go to http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?showtopic=18425&st=40

Go down to post #56 and read!

Go to http://www.singaporesoxfan.com/2007/05/matsuzakas-first-complete-game.html

Go down to “Comments” and read!

Before you make a comment like Daisuke never ices his arm out where lots of coaches, kids, and dads who don’t have a great deal of experience with baseball to read, do just a smidge of research.

You could have said that he seldom ices, didn’t regularly ice in Japan, or doesn’t appear to ice after every outing, but to say he NEVER ices is just flat out wrong.

But ya know what? Mebbe what’s been written is full of BS! Why don’t you get the real answer by communicating with Dave Page, the Red Sox Strength and Conditioning coach?

[J-MAC]

( As i sit here writing this i have ice on my arm because i just pitched 7 innings)You can get away without icing your arm at a younger age(8-13) but when you start to throw harder and start throwing mor curve balls and off-speed you will really need to put some ice on it. Also to take the edge off your arm make sure you throw LONG TOSS the next day. Not only do i find this to help with the pain after a star it also can increase velocity and increase stamina. You just have to be careful on how you do it and not to blow your arm out.

[slugger33]

Sorry about that. I read that in a story about him. I guess I should have researched more. Please don't take my advice on icing...

[TG Coach]

( As i sit here writing this i have ice on my arm because i just pitched 7 innings)You can get away without icing your arm at a younger age(8-13) but when you start to throw harder and start throwing mor curve balls and off-speed you will really need to put some ice on it. Also to take the edge off your arm make sure you throw LONG TOSS the next day. Not only do i find this to help with the pain after a star it also can increase velocity and increase stamina. You just have to be careful on how you do it and not to blow your arm out.

If you throw your curve and change properly it doesn't place any more stress on your arm than a fastball.

[J-MAC]

If you throw your curve and change properly it doesn't place any more stress on your arm than a fastball.


My change up for some reason really hurts my arm. I throw a circle change my arm action is just about the same as my fastball, if not i over sell it a bit. Do you have any clue why it hurts? i usually get the pain on my bottom part of the forearm

[scorekeeper]

Sorry about that. I read that in a story about him. I guess I should have researched more. Please don't take my advice on icing...

No reason to be sorry! You just fell into the same trap all of us do at one time or another.

Just keep in mind that people are saying things all the time, and there’s really no way to know the real truth of what they say. Sometimes what is said is just opinion, sometimes its speculation, sometimes its what they’ve been told, sometimes its just a flat out lie, and sometimes it’s a partial truth. The big things to remember are, what’s the source and how much of the whole story is being told?

FI, to say a curve properly thrown places no more stress on the arm than a FB may well be true, but who’s saying that? Is it an MD thoroughly trained in biomechanics and kinesiology? What is the “PROPER” way to throw a curve? Is the statement true for ALL people who try to throw a curve?

You also need to ask yourself what consequences of the statement are. FI, if 5,000,000 young pitchers or their parents read something like that, what’s the likely consequence? How many people are out there who have the ability to teach this proper way to throw a curve? How many will seek out whoever can teach them the “proper” way to throw the curve? How many who are teaching it are really teaching something far different? How many will just take the statement on its face without any qualification and either start throwing curves or not limit their child's doing it?

When you say something like that to 20-30 kids in a league, that’s one thing, and pretty much under your control. But when you talk about millions, that’s entirely a different matter.

The real answer is, in venues like these bulletin boards, its fine to express an opinion, but when the majority of the medical world dealing with a subject like this says not to allow kids to throw curves until whenever, why listen to some wanabe expert rather than the professionals?

It’s the same thing with icing. Perhaps its true that icing isn’t a good thing. perhaps there are P’s who don’t ice and are perfectly fine. But, if you had a youngster that pitched, and you saw every ML P wrapped in ice after an outing of more than just a few pitches, why on earth would you not want your son to have the same kind of basic treatment, and more importantly, why would you say things that made it appear to all the world that icing was either not necessary, or perhaps even a bad thing?

IOW, just because you see something in print, or hear it on the radio or TV, it doesn’t mean its true. :waving