1966 Free Agent Auction

[leecemark]

--With the rookie draft winding down, if not actually finsished, I thought everyone would be interested in getting a look at who is available in free agency. The Premium Free Agent (PFA) portion of the draft will kick off at 8PM EST on Friday, July 13 (the supersitous amoung us may want to avoid offering mega-deals on that day:) ). I've pared the list down to players who ought to be worth bidding on to try and keep it a little shorter tyhan last years marathon. It will kick off promptly and I am going to try to push the pace as much as possible.
--The PFA will auction these players in this order (based on 1965 salary);
Frank Howard - somebody's cleanup hitter for the next 5 years
Milt Pappas - decent rotation option
Rocky Colavito - solid starter now, but age is catching up to him
Bob Alllsion - injury problems this year, but still has some good years
Johnny Callison - solid starter for the rest of the decade
Jim Perry - very good pitcher, but underused in real life limiting his IP
--That is all for the PFA. The secondary auction of all remaining free agents will commence immediately after the conclusion of the PFA and conclude at 9PM EST on Monday, July 16.
--I'd like everyone to make sure their rosters/salaries are updated before the auction gets underway. Please post the number of players you have under contract and your total salary in this thread prior to that. No bids will be accepted from teams failing to provide updated salary data. Also, please remember you will need to reserve 250K per open slot on your roster to get to 40 men by Opening Day. Subtract that from the amount you have under the cap before figuring what you can afford to bid in the auction.
--Three PFA remain on multi-year deals to their current club. If not traded before then, they will be on waivers from 8PM Thursday to 8PM Friday. If not claimed they will stay with their current club. Those players are Ken Boyer, Lou Johnson and Jerry Buchek

[leecemark]

C: Tim McCarver (1.75m, 61 draft)
1B: Wes Parker (250K, 64 draft) -AAA
2B: Dick Green (1M, 63 draft, trade with Skipjacks)
3B: Don Wert (1M, 63 draft/trade with Shoeless Joes)
SS: Leo Cardenas (3.25m, 61 draft)
LF: Tommy Agee (500K, 1963 draft/trade with Redbirds)
CF: Willie Mays (12m, franchise player)
RF: Billy Williams (12.50M, 61 draft, trade with Redbirds)

-bench
IF: Dick McAuliffe (4.25m, 61 draft)
IF: Horace Clarke (250K, 1965 draft/trade with Redbirds)
OF: Lee Maye (1.25M, 61 draft)
C: Don Pavletich (500K, 61 draft/trade with Hard Cider)
OF: Adolpho Phillips (250K, 64 draft)
Utl: Cesar Tovar (500K, 65 draft)


Rotation
SP: Gary Peters (4.50m, 61 draft)
SP: Sonny Seibert (1.25M, 64 draft)
SP: Bobby Bolin (2.25, 61 draft)
SP: Larry Dierker (500K, 64 draft) - AAA
RP: Dave Boswell (500K, 64 draft)



- Bullpen
LHSU: Hank Aguirre (2.25M, 61 draft/trade with Redbirds)
LM: John Wyatt (1M, 61 draft/trade with Pirates)
RHSU: Jack Aker (500K, 64 draft)
CL: Lindy McDaniel (2.25M, 61 draft/trade with Skipjacks)
RP: Don Nottebart (1M, 61 draft )
RP: Gerry Arrigo (250K, 65-67)



Farm hands
Kalamazoo Squires AAA, Hamtramack Dragons AA, Cheyboygan Wizards
RP: Tug McGraw (250K, 65 draft) - AA
RP: John Purdin (250K, 64 draft) - AA
SS: Vern Law (750K, 61 draft) - AAA
SP: Jim McGlothlin (250K, 65 draft) - AA
SP: Mel Queen (250K, 64 draft) - A
SP: Woody Fryman (250K, 66 draft) - A
RP: Casey Cox (250K, 66 draft) - AA
1B: Rich Reese (250K, 64 draft) - A
3B: Sal Bando (1M, 66 draft) - A
1B: Mike Epstein (250K, 66 draft)
IF: Jose Pagan (250K, FA65-67) - AAA
C: Del Crandell (250K, FA65-6) - AAA
C: Ken Suarez (250K, 66 draft) - A

Bought out contracts
Gene Oliver (12.25M, FA65-67) - 12.25M cap penalty
Camilio Pascaul (7.75M, FA65-6) - 4M cap penalty





74.50M for 38 players (plus 2 contract buyouts)

[Erik Bedard]

Gold Sox are at 46M for 32 players, leaving us with 52M to spend.

[baseballPAP]

Mark, I'm missing salary data for Willie Hortonand Mike McCormick. If someone could send that along, that would be great.

[baseballPAP]

Redbirds are at 68.75 million and 36 players (after the Lolich trade). Thanks for the update Mark.

[leecemark]

--McCormick is on the last year of a 3 year/250K deal. Horton was a 1963 draftee, now making 1M.

[jkc32]

Shoeless is at 32 players for $65.25.

[baseballPAP]

The Redbirds, after about 20 test sims, have determined that they are probably not going to be able to make a run this year as I'd hoped. The draft just didn't have anyone able to help this season. To that end, we have a few parts that could be useful to a contender. The price is draft picks or young talent.....

Billy McCool-great lefty reliever, also solid next year, making 1M
Clay Carroll-great RH reliever, solid in 68, 69 also, making 1M
Bruce Howard-great starter for this year, OK next, making 1.5M
Bob Bailey-very solid 3Bman, but falls off before next year, making 1.25M

You know where to find me :)

[mac195]

Hard Cider: 37 players/$69.75 M (including one buyout)

[baseballPAP]

The Redbirds have completed a trade.....
The Hard Cider get Billy McCool and Bruce Howard.
The Redbirds get Mickey Lolich.

Mac to confirm.....

[mac195]

Confirmed.

[J W]

Can't say T.D. Dum isn't willing to spend:

33 players / $96 mil

:gt

[leecemark]

--Guess we won't be seeing much of the Skipjacks on Friday night:D .

[catcher24]

--Guess we won't be seeing much of the Skipjacks on Friday night

That sure is too bad!!:rofl: :p :laugh :D :nod:

All kidding aside, it is too bad because JW sure made things interesting. But with all those low payrolls, I expect some big spending on Friday.

Maybe the Legends can make up some ground this season!

[catcher24]

STARTERS
C: Bill Freehan 4.25M Contract: 1961 Rookie, 1 Year club option Exp: N/A
1B:*Willie McCovey 10.25M Contract:1961 Draft, 1 Year club option Exp: N/A
2B:*Joe Morgan 1M Contract: 1963 Rookie, Bump 1966 Exp: 1968
3B: Ron Santo 12M Contract:1961 Draft, Franchise Player Exp: N/A
SS: Gene Alley 500K Contract: 1963 Rookie, Bump 1966 Exp: 1968
LF: Felipe Alou 4.25M Contract: 1961 Draft, 1 Year club option Exp: N/A
CF: *Jim Northrup 1.25M Contract: 1964 Rookie, Bump 1967 Exp: 1969
RF: *Rusty Staub 1M Contract: 1963 Rookie, Bump 1966 Exp: 1968

BENCH
IF: Jim Davenport 2M Contract: 1965 FA, 3 Years Exp: 1967
OF:*Art Shamsky 500K Contract: 1965 Rookie, Bump 1968 Exp: 1970

STARTING PITCHERS
Luis Tiant 1.5M Contract: 1964 Rookie, Bump 1967 Exp: 1969
*Tommy John 2M Contract: 1963 Rookie, Bump 1966 Exp: 1968
Fergie Jenkins 1M Contract: 1965 Rookie, Bump 1968 Exp: 1970
Jack Fisher 1.25M Contract: 1965 FA, 3 Years Exp: 1967
Jim Nash 250K Contract: 1966 Rookie, Bump 1969 Exp: 1971

BULLPEN
Phil Regan 1.75M Contract:1961 Draft, 1 Year club option Exp: N/A
Ron Kline 2.25M Contract:1961 Draft, 1 Year club option Exp: N/A
Bob Locker 500K Contract: 1965 Rookie Draft, Bump 1968 Exp: 1970
Dan Osinski 1.25 Contract:1962 Rookie, Bump 1965 Exp: 1967
Joe Moeller 250K Contract: 1964 FA, 3 Years Exp: 1966
*Chris Zachary 250K Contract: 1965 FA, 2 Years Exp: 1966

MINOR LEAGUES
C: Dick Dietz 500K Contract: 1966 Rookie, Bump 1969 Exp: 1971
SS: Ron Hansen 250K Contract: 1965 FA, 3 Years Exp: 1967
OF:#Reggie Smith 1M Contract: 1966 Rookie, Bump 1969 Exp: 1971
OF:*Rick Monday 750K Contract: 1966 Rookie, Bump 1969 Exp: 1971
OF:*Ted Uhlaender 250K Contract: 1965 Rookie, Bump 1968 Exp: 1970
OF: Ollie Brown 250K Contract: 1965 Rookie, Bump 1968 Exp: 1970
SP: Bill Hands 1M Contract: 1965 Rookie, Bump 1968 Exp: 1970
SP:*Al Downing 1.75M Contract:1961 Draft, 1 Year club option Exp: N/A
RP:Ted Abernathy 1.25M Contract: 1961 Draft, 1 Year club option Exp: N/A
RP: Eddie Watt 750K Contract: 1966 Rookie, Bump 1969 Exp: 1971
P: Blue Moon Odom 250K Contract: 1964 Rookie, Bump 1967 Exp: 1969
P: *Grant Jackson 250K Contract: 1965 Rookie, Bump 1968 Exp: 1970
P: Dave Baldwin 250K Contract: 1966 Rookie, Bump 1969 Exp: 1971
P: Cecil Upshaw 250K Contract: 1966 Rookie, Bump 1969 Exp: 1971


TOTAL SALARY = $58 Million for 35 players

[Erik Bedard]

The Gold Sox claim Jerry Buchek.

Provided this goes through, I will now be at 47.5M for 33 players.

[catcher24]

OK, I edited my roster/salary to reflect Buchek's being claimed off of waivers.

And FYI, Dan, Buchek is in the second year of a 3 year free agent contract that pays 1.5 million per year. He'll become a free agent at the end of the 1967 season.

[leecemark]

--In addition to Buchek, Ken Boyer and Lou Johnson are also on the waiver wire from now til the start of the auction tomorrow night.

[Edgartohof]

The Pirates are at 66.25 Million with 25 on their roster

[leecemark]

--Robert, I show 25 players on your roster. Please review the attachment and let me know what needs correcting.

[Edgartohof]

--Robert, I show 25 players on your roster. Please review the attachment and let me know what needs correcting.

No, you are right. In all of my copying/pasting, things got shuffled around, give me a second and I'll have the correct nubmers up.

[leecemark]

--Still need roster/salary data from the Stingers, Diablos, Cannons and Gamblers and the corrected number for the Pirates. This must be posted before a bid can be accepted from your team.

[Wasp]

The Stingers are at 31 players with a salary of 75.75 million. Hmm, I didn't think the cash bug would catch up so fast. Anyway, I have a question. What is the buyout rate at again? Half of what they would have made if they still played?

[leecemark]

--Half of the remaining value of their contract. Buyouts had to be exercised by the end of the non-tender period though. If you release someone now you take the full contract value as a cap hit.

[Wasp]

Well, I already released Jack Cullen who was due to get 5M this year. So I guess my final team payroll is 78.25 million for 31 players.

[mac195]

Good morning all. I've got my coffee and toast made...

[leecemark]

...and a good afternoon to you. Any big spending plans?

[mac195]

Could be. I've got a bit of room under the cap.

[catcher24]

Yeah, I noticed. Too bad about that!

[catcher24]

Mark, I presume you're using BBF time again, as per usual. Which means we're about 14 minutes off from my watch!

[ElHalo]

Left work early today, in part to bid. Also because I haven't slept more than three hours at a stretch in two weeks.

[leecemark]

--Yes, its deadly slow as usual. I'm going to go ahead and end the waiver process now, with Buchek awarded to the Gold Sox and Boyer and Johnson staying put with the Gamblers and Diablos. We'll open the bidding on Howard in just a couple minutes.

[Wasp]

I'm here and ready to bid. ^_^

[leecemark]

Jim, can you post your roster size and current payroll please.

[catcher24]

I haven't slept more than three hours at a stretch in two weeks.

Careful, Jim. Sleep deprivation could prove to be costly!:nosleep:

[ElHalo]

My roster size is 27; I haven't worked out my payroll yet for this year, but suffice it to say I won't be making any big splashes tonight. If you want to get in a bidding war with me, you win. The only big salary that came off my books was Pappas' $13 mill, and $4.75 for Stallard, so I really don't have a lot of room to play with.

[leecemark]

--Okay, let the bidding begin. Will Frank Howard get a bigger deal than Ichiro?

[catcher24]

Kind of a pitiful showing for the PFA, isn't it?

[leecemark]

--The Knights go 17M.

[ElHalo]

Careful, Jim. Sleep deprivation could prove to be costly!:nosleep:

You're absolutely right. Hopefully to be moving soon, which should cut down on the four hour a day commute and help to ease up on that.

[catcher24]

Legends bid 10.25M for Howard.

[ElHalo]

I was going to put up a $4.75 on Howard, but I guess you guys beat me to it.

[catcher24]

Well, so much for that player.

[leecemark]

--I have the proxy for the Shoeless Joes. They go 17.50M and the Knights pass.

[mac195]

--The Knights go 17M.
No fooling around here, eh?

18M

[catcher24]

which should cut down on the four hour a day commute and help to ease up on that.

Hope so. That's an awful lot of driving!

[catcher24]

Geez, now I feel stupid for my measly 10.25M bid!:sorry:

[leecemark]

--I thought this might go fast, jumping to my max and knowing the Joes would top it.

[Wasp]

Well, Howard was never on my list, so I hope you guys bid higher! :)

[Erik Bedard]

Gold Sox are belatedly in attendance. My mom dragged me off to the pool. Oh, and I pass on Howard.

[leecemark]

--Joes go 18.50

[ElHalo]

Hope so. That's an awful lot of driving!

You people and your driving. Nobody drives to work in Manhattan, so at least I can get some sort of sleep on the train sometimes.

[mac195]

Howard 19M

[catcher24]

The Legends will pass on Howard. Mac will use him three years to win more titles, then offer him to an expansion team for a first rounder!:applaud:

[leecemark]

Joes 19.50

[mac195]

Howard 19.75

[leecemark]

19.50 going once

[catcher24]

You people and your driving.

OOOPS, I forgot. Sorry! I live in a county that is larger than Rhode Island but has 148,000 people. Commuting here means driving. Very, very minimal public transportation.

Sorry about the tangents, guys, but when your bid is already almost doubled might as well do something!

[catcher24]

Good Lord, I can't believe he's going for MORE than last time!

[leecemark]

--Joes 20.25. Mac it looks like just the two of you so we'll go until you or Joe pass instead of goign 1, 2,3 .

[catcher24]

Higher, Mac. Higher!

[mac195]

The Joes can have him at that price. I figured he would be a tradeable commodity up to 20M, but above that I'm not sure.

[leecemark]

--Congrats (?) to Shoeless for signing the new leagues highest paid player.
--MIlt Pappas is next on the block.

[catcher24]

Legends bid 4.25M for Pappas.

[Wasp]

The Stingers bid 4.75M.

[mac195]

HC pass on Pappas.

[ElHalo]

Wow. I mean, wow. More than a fifth of your payroll? I shudder to think of what Frank Robinson or Yaz would go for on the open market.

[leecemark]

Knights and Shoeless Joes both pass.

[leecemark]

4.75 going once

[catcher24]

I mean, wow. More than a fifth of your payroll? I shudder to think of what Frank Robinson or Yaz would go for on the open market.

How about Mays, our two time MVP?

Legends will pass on any further bidding for Milt Pappas.

[ElHalo]

$5 on Pappas

[Erik Bedard]

5.25m.........

[Wasp]

Is 8M the point where you have to sign for a minimum of three years?

[ElHalo]

I'll pass.

[mac195]

Is 8M the point where you have to sign for a minimum of three years?

........yes.

[leecemark]

Is 8M the point where you have to sign for a minimum of three years?


Yes;
less than 5M: 1-3 years
5-7.75: 2-4
8+: 3-5

[leecemark]

5.25 goign once

[Wasp]

5.5m..........

[leecemark]

going once

[leecemark]

going twice

[leecemark]

--Pappas to the Stingers for 5.50

[leecemark]

--Rocky Colavito next up. Not that far behind Howard for this year anyway and sure to be more reasonably priced.

[Erik Bedard]

5.75m........

EDIT: Ah, I see I'm too late.

[mac195]

Let's move this along a little faster, if possible. I don't think we need to wait more than two minutes to declare a winner when there is no raise.

[leecemark]

For Colavito? Sorry, but if it was for Pappas he has already signed.

[leecemark]

Colavito 500K

[mac195]

Colavito 2m

[leecemark]

--I think he is a bargin on any 1 year deal, but don't really need him. Knights pass.

[leecemark]

2M going once

[catcher24]

Legends bid 2.25M for Colavito.

[mac195]

........3m

[catcher24]

Legends pass on any further bidding for Colavito.

[leecemark]

3M going once

[leecemark]

3m going twice

[leecemark]

Colavito sold for 3M

[leecemark]

Next on the block Bob Allison

[leecemark]

Colavito sold for 3M

Saved about 4M on that transaction Mac. Nicely played.

[leecemark]

12.50M on Allison

[Erik Bedard]

Gold Sox pass

[leecemark]

12.5 going once

[catcher24]

:o :eek: :ughh

Legends pass on Allison.

[mac195]

Pass on Allison.

[Wasp]

Stingers pass. Also, I have a major headache. :(

[leecemark]

12.5 going twice

[Erik Bedard]

:o :eek: :ughh

I concur .

[leecemark]

Allison is a Knight for 12.5

[leecemark]

Johnny Callison is next up for bid

[catcher24]

Legends bid 4.25M for Callison.

[mac195]

Callison 4M

[Erik Bedard]

Callison 4.5M

[mac195]

........5m

[Wasp]

Stingers bid 3M.

EDIT: nevermind...

[leecemark]

5M going once

[leecemark]

Going twice

[Erik Bedard]

There's no HD rule for former doormats, correct?

[catcher24]

There isn't any home discount rule for these guys, anyway. That'll kick in next year, after forced free agents are all gone.

[leecemark]

--The home town discount rule applies only to players taken in the rookie draft who remain with their original team until reaching free agency after 6 years. It doesn't apply to anyone until next year when the 1962 draftees go on the block, but any of those guys picked in the expansion draft (and still with the team that drafted them) would be eligible for the HTD.

[Erik Bedard]

OK. I wasn't planning on using it, anywyay, just remembered that I've had Callison all three years I've been in the league.

[leecemark]

Callison sold to the HC for 5M

[catcher24]

It's only going to apply to players taken by a team in the rookie draft and then held for six years, until they reach free agency.

[leecemark]

The last PFA on auction tonight, Jim Perry, is now up for bid.

[baseballPAP]

Great...got here just in time...not.
American Leagion game took way too long...our boys should have tried getting some of the other team out :(

[baseballPAP]

3 M for Perry

[Erik Bedard]

5M on Perry...

[leecemark]

--I think Mac may have some extra outfielders if anyone is looking to deal:reporter: .

[baseballPAP]

8 Mill for the "other" Perry

[leecemark]

8M on Perry

[leecemark]

8.25................

[catcher24]

but any of those guys picked in the expansion draft (and still with the team that drafted them) would be eligible for the HTD.

I don't think HTD would apply, Mark. As I recall, the guys taken by the expansion teams from the doormats were all on year to year contracts, same as the guys picked by the original teams back in 1961. So they wouldn't become free agents until released by the drafting team or traded anyway.

[mac195]

..........6m

[catcher24]

Legends bid 10.25M for Perry.

[baseballPAP]

11 M.................

[Erik Bedard]

11M on Perry

[mac195]

..................9m

[Erik Bedard]

11.25 .

[leecemark]

--It would apply to players drafted by other teams and then picked in the expansion draft. The expansion teams inherited the status of all their picks.

[baseballPAP]

13 M..........................

[mac195]

.............12m

[catcher24]

You're going to have to bump it higher, quicker, Mac.:rant:

[Erik Bedard]

13.5M on Perry

[mac195]

13.5m.........

[leecemark]

PAP just went over my remaining cash. Knights pass. we got our Billy Williams insurance in Allison anyway.

[baseballPAP]

15.25 M..............

[catcher24]

-It would apply to players drafted by other teams and then picked in the expansion draft. The expansion teams inherited the status of all their picks.

Correct, as usual. I was thinking only of the guys taken from the doormats. Tunnel vision in this case, as it were.

[mac195]

HC pass on Perry.

[baseballPAP]

I had fully intended on getting Howard unless he went over 25M.....oh well....

[Erik Bedard]

15.5M on Perry.

Yes, I really do need pitching that badly.

[catcher24]

we got our Billy Williams insurance in Allison anyway.

Should've known that was it! The nice thing about being a bottom feeder is that you don't need to worry about protecting those really high priced players!

[baseballPAP]

16.25.........

[Erik Bedard]

17m............

[catcher24]

16.25.........

He's good, but IMHO not quite that good. Legends will pass on further Perry bidding.

[catcher24]

Approaching Howard territory!! Mark, do you remember what was the largest FA contract to date? Was it Brooks Robinson, Mickey Mantle or Howard?

[Erik Bedard]

He's good, but IMHO not quite that good. Legends will pass on further Perry bidding.

Of course, when your only starter is Tony Cloninger, he's well worth seventeen million dollars.

[leecemark]

--Yikes! I thought Howard might get 20+, but didn't see Perry making theis kind of cash.

[baseballPAP]

18m...............

[catcher24]

Of course, when your only starter is Tony Cloninger, he's well worth seventeen million dollars.

Excellent point, Dan!:bowdown:

[ElHalo]

Wow. Yeah, figured I couldn't afford anything tonight.

[Erik Bedard]

18.25............

[mac195]

There was somebody here at BF who knows Jim Perry... said he's a nice old country boy... weighs well over 300 now.

[leecemark]

--I think Mantle at 18+ was our previous high.

[baseballPAP]

19m..............

[Erik Bedard]

I also got Robinson at 18M.

[leecemark]

There was somebody here at BF who knows Jim Perry... said he's a nice old country boy... weighs well over 300 now.


--I thought it was Gaylord who topped 300 now. Of course it could be both.

[catcher24]

-I think Mantle at 18+ was our previous high

Yeah, I was thinking that too. We set a new high tonight already, and maybe Perry'll pass it!

[Erik Bedard]

19.5M

Stupid ten character thing.

[leecemark]

--I'm sure its just the Gold Sox and Redbirds now. When one of you is ready to give in, let us know.

[mac195]

--I thought it was Gaylord who topped 300 now. Of course it could be both.

Yeah, maybe it was Gaylord.

[catcher24]

19.5M

:eek: :faint: :o :(

[Erik Bedard]

Yeah, maybe it was Gaylord.
I wish it was Gaylord that I just bid 19.5M on.

[catcher24]

Don't stop now, guys! You're so close to the record!!:radio

[leecemark]

Redbirds go 19.75

[catcher24]

Scott had to leave already?? Too bad, that was fun to watch!

[Erik Bedard]

20M :faint:

[leecemark]

--Redbirds make it a record 20.50

[Erik Bedard]

20.75m!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[catcher24]

--Redbirds make it a record 20.50

:thumbsup: :rofl: :applaud: :p :clapping :D

[Erik Bedard]

The :p was a little uncalled for.... :laugh :laugh :laugh

[catcher24]

In case I haven't posted this already, the Legends withdraw from further bidding on Perry. Wouldn't want there to be ANY mistake about that!

[Erik Bedard]

In case it was missed, I bid 20.75M.

[leecemark]

--I thought I saw your hand up in the back of the room at 21M Lew:happy: .
--Actually we have a winner with Dan's 20.75M. Who'd have thought Jim Perry would ever hold the title of CKL's highest paid player. His agent is the man:bowdown: .

[catcher24]

--I thought I saw your hand up in the back of the room at 21M Lew

What on earth have you been drinking tonight, Mark? :laugh :laugh

Congrats (I guess) to Dan. Sure hope he pitches well for you!

[leecemark]

Frank Howard to the Shoeless Joes at 20.25M (3-5 year deal)
Milt Pappas to the Stingers at 5.50M (2-4 year deal)
Rocky Colavito to the Hard Cider at 3M (1-3 year deal)
Bob Allison to the Knights at 12.50M (3 year deal already announced:cap: )
Johnny Callison to the Hard Cider at 5M (2-4 year deal)
Jim Perry to the Gold Sox at 20.75M! (3-5 year deal)

[catcher24]

And so, with the conclusion of another fine PFA auction, let me thank everyone for some fine entertainment this evening, even though I wasn't able to land anyone. I can't believe two players reached 20M+!!

And let me be the first to post bids on remaining free agents:

Jake Gibbs - 1.75M
Gene Oliver - 1.5M
Bob Saverine - 2.25M
Mike Shannon - 4.25M

[leecemark]

--Okay the secondary auction is now open. Bid freely between now and 8PM EST on Monday. The last hour before the market closes at 9PM only player may be bid on per post.

[mac195]

Colavito is signed to a one-year contract. Callison gets 4 years.

[buppers]

Just dropped in to see the auction.
ITS OVER!!!!

Reading through posts, it certainly looked like a lot of fun. You guys were throwing money around like Steinbrenner.
Will keep in mind that Howard will probably be offered to an expansion team for a pick :) (Thats if I get a team)

Ed

[Wasp]

Ugh, sorry guys for not being around. I had one of the worst headaches I've ever had in my life. :mad: Didn't look like I missed THAT much though. Anyway, I'll sign Milt Pappas to a two-year deal.

[jkc32]

Shoeless signs Frank Howard to a 5-year deal.

[Erik Bedard]

Perry will get a five-year deal. '69 and '70 better be well worth this money, because he'll be a spot starter two out of those five years.

[catcher24]

Mark - The most recent file you sent me has Joe Hoerner listed as a free agent pitcher. Is that correct, or is it a mistake?

[leecemark]

--Hoerner was a 1963 draftee of the Diablos. He was not active in 1965 and would have been missed in the migration to 1966. I am returning him to ElHalo's roster unless Jim tells me different.

[leecemark]

Maury Wills 3.0. He probably should have gone in the PFA. I actually missed Joe non-tendering him until pointed out when I put up the revised rosters for this thread and just didn't think about adding him to the list.

[mac195]

Maury Wills 3.0. He probably should have gone in the PFA. I actually missed Joe non-tendering him until pointed out when I put up the revised rosters for this thread and just didn't think about adding him to the list.
What kind of defensive rating does Wills have at shortstop in '67 and '68?

[leecemark]

AV both years.

[mac195]

Wills 3.5M

[leecemark]

Wills 4.0.......

[Erik Bedard]

Wills 4.75M.

Also, what rating does Ken Berry have in CF?

[catcher24]

--Hoerner was a 1963 draftee of the Diablos. He was not active in 1965 and would have been missed in the migration to 1966. I am returning him to ElHalo's roster unless Jim tells me different.

OK, thanks. I should have figured something like that. I forget that the migration feature would'nt have picked him up from 1965, and I sure couldn't believe that no one had drafted him in 1963 with the seasons he has coming up!

[catcher24]

Also, what rating does Ken Berry have in CF?

Berry is rated VG (very good) at all three outfield positions, with an average throwing arm.

[leecemark]

--Wills 5.0

[J W]

Did I just see that Callison went to the Hard Cider for 5.0 mil?

Is there a conspiracy going on to keep that team the best in the league or something? WE could've almost afforded him!

Not that he's worth much more than that, but historically our FAs have been going for astronomical prices. Yet another tip of the cap to Mac. :nod:

[Erik Bedard]

Wills 5.25...

[catcher24]

The bidding has been almost nonexistent so far, but as of this post here are the current high bids:

Jake Gibbs - 1.75M Legends

Gene Oliver - 1.5M Legends

Bob Saverine - 2.25M Legends

Mike Shannon - 4.25M Legends

Maury Wills - 5.25M Gold Sox

[Edgartohof]

Bob Saverine - 2.5M

Mike Shannon - 4.5M

Maury Wills - 5.75M

[baseballPAP]

I'm reading...just wanna wait until the end to break everyone's hearts ;)

[catcher24]

Ron Brand 250K

[baseballPAP]

Jim Hickman 8.0 M
Jerry Grote 2.0 M
Ray Culp 8.0 M

[Erik Bedard]

Wills 6M...

[leecemark]

--Aiming for 1970 Scott? Culp 8.25.

[baseballPAP]

Something like that......
Culp 8.5M

[leecemark]

Culp 8.75................

[538280]

Jim O'Toole .25

[Erik Bedard]

O'Toole .5M

[ElHalo]

After updating my payroll entering 1966, I find that I have 28 players under contract for a total of $76.5 mill. Just wanted to let everybody know.

[catcher24]

Culp 8.75................

:crazy :shrug: :confused: :noidea :dismay:

I must be missing something here..........

I'm a little surprised that with several teams needing quite a few players there hasn't yet been more activity.

[leecemark]

:crazy :shrug: :confused: :noidea :dismay:

I must be missing something here..........

Ray is one sexy guy. We're trying to appeal to more female fans:laugh .:

I'm a little surprised that with several teams needing quite a few players there hasn't yet been more activity.

--Hopefully we'll see more activity tomorrow. There really isn't any urgency to the early bid. It just makes it more likely you'll tip off your rivals and drive up the price. I actually bid early on Maury Wills more to get the bidding up than because I really wanted him. Not that he wouldn't help in 67-8 when Cardenas has some horrible years with the bat.

[ElHalo]

Saverine $3
Jim O'Toole $1
Sammy Ellis $0.25
Rollie Sheldon $0.25
Robin Roberts $0.25
Curt Simmons $0.25
Jack Sanford $0.25
Don Schwall $0.25
Camilo Pascual $0.25
Billy O'Dell $0.25
Fred Newman $0.25
Bill Monbouquette $0.25
Jack Lamabe $0.25
Joey Jay $0.25
Jim Hannan $0.25
Jack Hamilton $0.25
Bob Friend $0.25
Rob Gardner $0.25
Hank Fischer $0.25
John Buzhardt $0.25
Ray Culp $0.25
Wally Bunker $0.25
Bob Buhl $0.25
Bob Bruce $0.25
Ed Brinkman $0.25
Donnie Edwards $0.25
Tito Fuentes $0.25
Hal Lanier $0.25
Dal Maxvill $0.25
Dick Nen $0.25
Phil Roof $0.25
George Smith $0.25
Lee Thomas $0.25

[ElHalo]

Mark,

I saw Joe Hoerner on the FA eligible list. I find this mildly disturbing, as I don't seem to recall dropping him, and I should still have three years left of him (it would be especially galling for me to lose him, seeing as how I've drafted him and kept him on the bench for three years without using him).

[leecemark]

--If you scroll back up a ways you'll see that situation was addressed. Since he didn't lay in 1965 he didn't automatically transfer over to your roster in 1965. He has since been added.

[baseballPAP]

Culp 9 M

Are we limited to bidding by the roster size of 40, or can we go over and make cuts later?

[catcher24]

Unless I'm terribly mistaken, you can go over and then make cuts, but the salary of any player cut will still count against you, of course.

[ElHalo]

Unless I'm terribly mistaken, you can go over and then make cuts, but the salary of any player cut will still count against you, of course.

Exactly. I'll take the hit on the salaries; I need massive help on starting pitching, as I'm about 600 innings short. Hopefully I can fill it up with a bunch of subpar 70 or 80 ERA+ guys with 140 innings nobody else wants.

[leecemark]

--Lew is correct. You can sign as many guys as you want as long as you don't exceed 100M in salary. You would need to cut the excess before Opening Day and the cuts would count against your cap for the remainder of the season. Also you are not permitted to have bids out that would put you over the cap if all of them turned out to be winners. If you're bidding on 20 guys with the hopes of getting 10 the total bids for the 20 still can not exceed your available cap space.

[leecemark]

Culp 9.25...............

[Erik Bedard]

Mark (or somebody else who has the DM game), is a six-man rotation allowed? Because I've got one guy with 200 IP, and then five more with around 170.

[leecemark]

--Five is the most you can put in your rotation. You'd have to switch the 6th guy in for different pitchers over the course of the season to balance the innings. Or if you have a deep pen you could set your relief usage to more and a 170 IP guy (good for 210 IP at 125%) can probably stay in the rotaion all season no problem. I only had one 200 IP guy in my rotation last season and it was definately manageable.

[mac195]

If anyone is in in need of starting pitching, I have Pete Richert (245 IP, 103 ERA+, 1.079 WHIP in '66) availible for a future draft pick.

[Edgartohof]

chuck harrison - 250K
Jerry Grote - 2.5M
Earl Battey - 500K
Tim Talton - 250K
Bob Saverine - 3.5M

[Erik Bedard]

Clay Dalrymple or Randy Hundley may be available if anybody needs a catcher.

Also, Billy O'Dell 500K.

[catcher24]

Bill Monbouquette 1.75M

[catcher24]

I'll update this one more time (can't see any reason to do it more than that) before the final hour. Probably about 7:45PM EST.

Earl Battey - 500K Pirates

Ron Brand - 250K Legends

Ed Brinkman - 250K Diablos

Bob Bruce - 250K Diablos

bob Buhl - 250K Diablos

Wally Bunker - 250K Diablos

John Buzhardt - 250K Diablos

Ray Culp - 9.25M Knights

Donnie Edwards - 250K Diablos

Sammy Ellis - 250K Diablos

Hank Fischer - 250K Diablos

bob Friend - 250K Diablos

Tito Fuentes - 250K Diablos

Rob Gardner - 250K Diablos

Jake Gibbs - 1.75M Legends

Jerry Grote - 2.5M Pirates

Jack Hamilton - 250K Diablos

Jim Hannon - 250K Diablos

Chuck Harrison - 250K Pirates

Jim Hickman - 8M Redbirds

Joey Jay - 250K Diablos

Jack Lamabe - 250K Diablos

Hal Lanier - 250K Diablos

Dal Maxvill - 250K Diablos

Bill Monbouquette - 1.75M Legends

Dick Nen - 250K Diablos

Fred Newman - 250K Diablos

Billy O'Dell - 500K Gold Sox

Gene Oliver - 1.5M Legends

Jim O'Toole - 1M Diablos

Camilo Pascual - 250K Diablos

Robin Roberts - 250K Diablos

Phil Roof - 250K Diablos

Jack Sanford - 250K Diablos

Bob Saverine - 3.5M Pirates

Don Schwall - 250K Diablos

Mike Shannon - 4.5M Pirates

Curt Simmons - 250K Diablos

Rollie Sheldon - 250K Diablos

George Smith - 250K Diablos

Tim Talton - 250K Pirates

Lee Thomas - 250K Diablos

Maury Wills - 6M Gold Sox

[J W]

Ruben Amaro - 0.25
John Boccabella - 0.25
Billy Bryan - 0.25
Ossie Chavarria - 0.25
Johnny Edwards - 0.25
Jim Gosger - 0.25
Bill Heath - 0.25

[Edgartohof]

Maury Wills - 7.5M
Zoillo Versalles - 250K

[jkc32]

Shoeless bids...

Earl Battey - 0.75
Tito Fuentes - 0.50
Johnny Edwards - 0.50
Wally Bunker - 0.50
Bud Harrelson - 0.25
Julian Javier - 0.25
Bob Purkey - 0.25

[Edgartohof]

earl battey 1.25M

[jkc32]

Jerry Grote - 2.75M

[catcher24]

JW - The Diablos have already bid 250K on Johnny Edwards. I believe I or they mistakenly listed him as Donnie Edwards, but in checking the entire player roster for 1965 in DM, the only Edwards listed is Johnny.

[ElHalo]

--Lew is correct. You can sign as many guys as you want as long as you don't exceed 100M in salary. You would need to cut the excess before Opening Day and the cuts would count against your cap for the remainder of the season. Also you are not permitted to have bids out that would put you over the cap if all of them turned out to be winners. If you're bidding on 20 guys with the hopes of getting 10 the total bids for the 20 still can not exceed your available cap space.

I have roughly $23 mill in cap space, and put out 30 bids totalling about $10 mill. So I'm fine in that regard.

[catcher24]

I believe these are all the current bids as of Shoeless Joes Jerry Grote bid (Post #236). However, I DO NOT GUARANTEE they are entirely accurate. If you've made a bid on a player or players, please let me know if they are missing. Thanks, and now for the grand finale (total chaos, as usual).

Ruben Amaro - 250K Skipjacks

Earl Battey - 1.25M Pirates

John Boccabella - 250K Skipjacks

Ron Brand - 250K Legends

Ed Brinkman - 250K Diablos

Bob Bruce - 250K Diablos

Billy Bryan - 250K Skipjacks

bob Buhl - 250K Diablos

Wally Bunker - 500K Shoeless Joes

John Buzhardt - 250K Diablos

Ossie Chavarria - 250K Skipjacks

Ray Culp - 9.25M Knights

Johnny Edwards - 500K Shoeless Joes

Sammy Ellis - 250K Diablos

Hank Fischer - 250K Diablos

bob Friend - 250K Diablos

Tito Fuentes - 500K Shoeless Joes

Rob Gardner - 250K Diablos

Jake Gibbs - 1.75M Legends

Jim Gosger - 250K Skipjacks

Jerry Grote - 2.75M Shoeless Joes

Jack Hamilton - 250K Diablos

Jim Hannon - 250K Diablos

Bud Harrelson - 250K Shoeless Joes

Chuck Harrison - 250K Pirates

Bill Heath - 250K Skipjacks

Jim Hickman - 8M Redbirds

Julian Javier - 250K Shoeless Joes

Joey Jay - 250K Diablos

Jack Lamabe - 250K Diablos

Hal Lanier - 250K Diablos

Dal Maxvill - 250K Diablos

Bill Monbouquette - 1.75M Legends

Dick Nen - 250K Diablos

Fred Newman - 250K Diablos

Billy O'Dell - 500K Gold Sox

Gene Oliver - 1.5M Legends

Jim O'Toole - 1M Diablos

Camilo Pascual - 250K Diablos

Bob Purkey - 250K Shoeless Joes

Robin Roberts - 250K Diablos

Phil Roof - 250K Diablos

Jack Sanford - 250K Diablos

Bob Saverine - 3.5M Pirates

Don Schwall - 250K Diablos

Mike Shannon - 4.5M Pirates

Curt Simmons - 250K Diablos

Rollie Sheldon - 250K Diablos

George Smith - 250K Diablos

Tim Talton - 250K Pirates

Lee Thomas - 250K Diablos

Maury Wills - 7.5M Pirates

Zoilo Versalles - 250K Pirates

[ElHalo]

Jim Gosger - 0.25


Gosger is, I believe, on a multiyear contract with the Diablos, as he's slated to be my fifth outfielder this year.

[catcher24]

Mark, can you verify whether Gosger belongs to the Diablos? I show him as a free agent also.

[mac195]

Bill Monbouquette - 2.0
Jerry Zimmerman - .25M

[ElHalo]

Billy O'Dell $1

[ElHalo]

Mark, can you verify whether Gosger belongs to the Diablos? I show him as a free agent also.

Go here:

http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=58988&page=19

Post 474. I signed him to a three year deal before the 1965 season.

[baseballPAP]

Culp 10 M....

[baseballPAP]

Grote 3 M ......

[ElHalo]

Fuentes $1

[Wasp]

Tito Fuentes - 1.5M

EDIT

[leecemark]

Culp 10.25

[catcher24]

Bill Monbouquette 2.25M