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Ytown Tribe fan
06-23-2007, 12:47 PM
A-Rod is a month shy of his 32nd b-day and has hit 491 career HR; Barry is 6 shy of setting a new all-time HR mark.

A-Rod could become the youngest player to ever reach 500 (Jimmy Foxx was a month shy of his 33rd b-day when he hit #500).

One or both could happen in the same week this season, even the same day, or they could not happen at all.

Which milestone do you guy think is more significant?

Days Of Earl
06-23-2007, 01:34 PM
A-Rod is a month shy of his 32nd b-day and has hit 491 career HR; Barry is 6 shy of setting a new all-time HR mark.

A-Rod could become the youngest player to ever reach 500 (Jimmy Foxx was a month shy of his 33rd b-day when he hit #500).

One or both could happen in the same week this season, even the same day, or they could not happen at all.

Which milestone do you guy think is more significant?

imho Barry only needed 6 for the record, and what makes it more significant is that he was never thought to be remotely close to the record of Aarons...then again I guess that's what (***cough sterio*s cough****) will do for you huh?

geezer
06-23-2007, 10:17 PM
Well, I just hope that A-Rod hits over 700 homers in his career, and with his latest power surge, he's on a roll!!!

redlegsfan21
06-23-2007, 10:18 PM
Obviously it's Barry's. Thats the record of all sports. As Thom Brennaman was talking about during the NYY-SF game. People don't know who is the leader in passing or rushing yards or those numbers, people don't know whose scored the most goals or how many, people don't know who has the most career points or that number but every American knows that Hank Aaron has 755 homeruns. It is truly the record of records.

four tool
06-24-2007, 04:54 AM
Overall, the career mark is more significant.

Personally, I like the idea of a player reaching 500 at a younger age than anyone else in the history of baseball.

Mattingly
06-24-2007, 05:10 AM
Historically, Barry's would easily be the most significant. To my knowledge, the most reveered and seemingly unbreakable statistic in baseball would be Hank Aaron's 755 jacks. Others, like Cy Young's 511 wins and Nolan Ryan's 5,714 whiffs are even more unapproachable (to myself, at least), but 755 seems to sit on people's minds moreso than the others. Ask John & Jane Doe on the street who holds the HR record, the wins record and the SO record, guess which one they'll remember easiest.

While I'm very supportive of Alex Rodriguez being the youngest to get to 500, I believe that his true significance will come if/when he eventually breaks the higher of what Aaron or Bonds have done after they'd retired.

Ytown Tribe fan
06-24-2007, 08:12 AM
Some day, A-Rod will have a ton of records, and maybe Yanks fans won't boo him. But I wouldn't count on that.

Of course, Barry may not stop at 756 either. He can obviously still hit, he is having a fine season with the bat, and he may come back for more abuse next season too, to shoot for an even 800 or so.


I'd like to see someone approach Wahoo Sam's 309 career triples. Hell, I'd like to see someone get within 100 of that.

BaseballRookie
06-24-2007, 08:38 AM
Some day, A-Rod will have a ton of records, and maybe Yanks fans won't boo him. But I wouldn't count on that.

Of course, Barry may not stop at 756 either. He can obviously still hit, he is having a fine season with the bat, and he may come back for more abuse next season too, to shoot for an even 800 or so.


I'd like to see someone approach Wahoo Sam's 309 career triples. Hell, I'd like to see someone get within 100 of that.

yankee fans are still booing alex?:laugh alex rodriguez 500 means much more to me than bonds breaking hank aaron's HR record.

AMG
06-24-2007, 08:18 PM
Which milestone do you guy think is more significant?


Bonds breaking the HR record.

SamtheBravesFan
06-24-2007, 08:48 PM
Bonds breaking the home run record. In Japan, Sadaharu Oh is a national hero because he "broke" that very record. If it means something in other countries, it has to be the most important.

geezer
06-24-2007, 10:26 PM
And the MIT, A-Rod can become the youngest player ever to reach 500 homers, and he is not yet turned 32, incredible.

Future member of 500 HRs and 3,000 Hits as well, who knew.

Lucifer
06-25-2007, 08:00 AM
More significant? Bonds

More impressive? ARod

Brad Harris
06-25-2007, 08:58 AM
Bonds. However, I expect to see A-Rod passing Bonds' career record someday, so that's no slight to the best player in the American League.

Lucifer
06-25-2007, 09:06 AM
You mean, in the Major Leagues.

Ubiquitous
06-25-2007, 09:18 AM
Obviously it's Barry's. Thats the record of all sports. As Thom Brennaman was talking about during the NYY-SF game. People don't know who is the leader in passing or rushing yards or those numbers, people don't know whose scored the most goals or how many, people don't know who has the most career points or that number but every American knows that Hank Aaron has 755 homeruns. It is truly the record of records.

I think Thom is a bit wrong on this one. Rushing yards in football is a pretty big deal and considering that Emmit Smith recently surpassed Walter Payton I'm thinking many people know that one. I also think that a good chunk of people know that Dan Marino is the all time pass king and when Brett Favre surpasses him next season I think even more people will know who the pass king is. As for hockey many people might not know who has the most goals or points but I'm willing to bet everybody will still get the answer right. Basketball is probably the only one most people would never get right.

KCGHOST
06-25-2007, 12:18 PM
Bond standing alone is much more impressive than anyone joining a group of 20 other guys.

redlegsfan21
06-25-2007, 01:15 PM
I think Thom is a bit wrong on this one. Rushing yards in football is a pretty big deal and considering that Emmit Smith recently surpassed Walter Payton I'm thinking many people know that one. I also think that a good chunk of people know that Dan Marino is the all time pass king and when Brett Favre surpasses him next season I think even more people will know who the pass king is. As for hockey many people might not know who has the most goals or points but I'm willing to bet everybody will still get the answer right. Basketball is probably the only one most people would never get right.

Well, I think non-sports fans could get the HR record right and nothing else but those who watch those sports know the football records, just not the numbers. Also, everyone knows who the greatest player to dominate his sport is (The Great One) but couldn't tell his numbers. I can't tell you anything about basketball except the greatest player in it's history. So Thom is partly right in that the numbers are remembered in baseball's and sport's greatest record. Babe Ruth 714 and Hank Aaron 755.

Centerfielder2
06-25-2007, 08:27 PM
A-Rod is a month shy of his 32nd b-day and has hit 491 career HR; Barry is 6 shy of setting a new all-time HR mark.

A-Rod could become the youngest player to ever reach 500 (Jimmy Foxx was a month shy of his 33rd b-day when he hit #500).

One or both could happen in the same week this season, even the same day, or they could not happen at all.

Which milestone do you guy think is more significant?

right now bonds is much more of a milestone

even thought its sad that arod will pass him someday and a yankee will have the greatest milestone in sports

it brings a tear to my eye

SamtheBravesFan
06-25-2007, 08:36 PM
right now bonds is much more of a milestone

even thought its sad that arod will pass him someday and a yankee will have the greatest milestone in sports

it brings a tear to my eye

Um... a Yankee had the greatest record in sports for four decades. ;)

Yankee Legend
06-25-2007, 09:10 PM
Well the Yankee fan in me cares more about A-rod hitting #500 but he's young and we all know he's gonna do it. So I guess Barry's 756 is more interesting. I just hope this steroid nonsense is gonna finally end when he does break the record.

John Shoemaker
06-26-2007, 07:36 AM
I think Thom is a bit wrong on this one. Rushing yards in football is a pretty big deal and considering that Emmit Smith recently surpassed Walter Payton I'm thinking many people know that one. I also think that a good chunk of people know that Dan Marino is the all time pass king and when Brett Favre surpasses him next season I think even more people will know who the pass king is. As for hockey many people might not know who has the most goals or points but I'm willing to bet everybody will still get the answer right. Basketball is probably the only one most people would never get right.

People may know who holds these records but do they know the number of yards, the number of goals, or the number of points? Everyone knows the number 755.

Lucifer
06-26-2007, 07:43 AM
Id be willing to stake my life that every American doesn't know Aaron has 755, or even half of America at that. Basketball points and football yards aren't known as well simply cause they're huge numbers lol, and Emmit Smith's record was jumping like 47 or 68 yards a week, nobody keeps up with that.

Again, everyone doesn't know the number 755

I happen to kno most those numbers we're talking tho. Marino 420 touchdowns, yards in a season 5,084, yards in a career 61,361. Gretzky has 894 goals. 38,387 is Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's basketball scoring record

Matt1901
06-26-2007, 10:57 AM
People don't know who is the leader in passing or rushing yards or those numbers, people don't know whose scored the most goals or how many, people don't know who has the most career points or that number but every American knows that Hank Aaron has 755 homeruns. It is truly the record of records.I think most general sports fans know who Emmitt Smith, Dan Marino, Wayne Gretzky and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar are as well.

I do agree that All-Time Home Runs record is the king of all sports records. Ever since a pitcher started crushing long home runs for the Red Sox in 1918, it is the most crowd pleasing event in sports.

Captain Cold Nose
06-26-2007, 11:17 AM
Many years ago, there was a PSA about the boy scouts, and while everything in it was sayint they did this or that, Aaron said his accomplishment was 755 home runs. Of all sports records, it very likely does resonate the loudest. A-Rod hitting 500 won't resonate much more than it did for anyone else who had reached 500, if at all, considering how many have hit and passed that number in recent times.

Lucifer
06-26-2007, 11:18 AM
It will resonate more than it did for anyone else, cause A-Rod's gonna be the youngest to do it. And it appears he has a great shot at breaking Bonds' record (once he passes Aaron)

Captain Cold Nose
06-26-2007, 11:24 AM
It will resonate more than it did for anyone else, cause A-Rod's gonna be the youngest to do it. And it appears he has a great shot at breaking Bonds' record (once he passes Aaron)

Good points, both.

homercles
06-26-2007, 01:19 PM
Bonds home run every 12.94 career AB is impressive. Even Arod is only at 14.31. But not sure how many of Barry's would have made the warning track naturally.
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