View Full Version : Winning one out of six ain't half bad.
Cubsballaz
05-31-2007, 01:28 PM
13 1/2 games out and it's almost June and I have to say I can't believe my eyes. I thought the Yankees would have made up a couple of games since my last blog but I guess not. They look worse than before wll look at the bright side scoring 10 runs on the Jays made me realize that their offense can score more than 5 runs. Obviously their pithching isn't the problem two strong consequetive outings in a row by Clippard and Pettite brought some stabilization to that hideous Bullpen of theirs. A series against the Sox should get them into quite a roll Oh wait the Red Sox are looking incredible they are playing .750 ball. And talk about the wrong desicion Clemens should play the third game of the Red Sox series. Torre should be out by Late June early July and Joe Girardi should replace him. If they think they can get any value out of trading Giambi they are crazier than the Lakers tryingto trade Kobe. Yanks I don't knoow whats gonna happen to you.:rant:
RubeBaker
05-31-2007, 02:05 PM
Girardi is NOT going to replace Torre. He is a terrific manager, but he's more of a teacher type. He can take a group of young guys and show them how to play the game like he did with the Marlins. A group of vets like the Yankees would not be the best fit.
Mattingly is going to get the job. George has been praising him lately, he revived Giambi's career, developed Cano as a hitter, and is well like as a bench coach with the team. If Torre goes, Mattingly is in.
Mattingly
05-31-2007, 04:15 PM
I'm not sure who will be the next Yankee manager, but short of a WS win, I seriously doubt it'll be Joe Torre. Part of me very much wants a WS win, while the other just wants to see Joe Torre leave. If he wins, then I'd expect more of the same formulaic thing whereby he leaves pitchers in for an extra inning, then at the first sign of trouble (leadoff walk or double), he brings in the pen, who can't get the 3 outs w/o 2-3 runs scoring.
It's too bad that Willie Randolph wasn't hired, since of all the Yankee coaches, he'd been there about the longest (30 years or so, including as a player).
Don Mattingly may get this, but I think we need him to return as a hit coach. The Yanks haven't hit anything since he moved from hit coach to bench coach.
Mattingly's becoming the manager seems similar to Guidry's being the pitch coach: a very popular career Yankee from the farm who assumes a top job. For Guidry, I feel that Joe Kerrigan, who'd excelled in Boston and Philly as a pitch coach, would've been the wiser choice. However, he's now our bullpen coach. Which other team would've done this if they'd wanted to win games, rather than just appease their fans?
Girardi has said he respects Torre too much to consider availability for that job. I've heard Sweet Lou Piniella say the same thing, so it's not just single-season managers saying this, as Piniella has long been said to eventually replace Torre. With Lou in Wrigley Field, I'd have to read more about what each has to say about managing the big team.
I'd prefer that whoever signs on not try doing things the Joe Torre way. We need a spark plug in there, rather than sitting in the dugout sipping green tea and waiting for something to happen, and when it doesn't, having no Plan B, making endless excuses in the post-game interview.
For the 13.5 games back, that's fine. If your hitters aren't doing anything, then your rotation and pen have to be lights out. We haven't had as many games on a steady basis whereby each of our SP, our pen and our offense have clicked. We need 2 out of 3 in starting pitching, bullpen and offense. Without this, we're not winning very many games.
While I consider any series with Boston to be important, in the end, it's just another series. If you win this then it's supposedly a sign of better things to come, how come we won 2 of 3 against them the last time, then lost series after series thereafter? To me, beating the D-Rays and Royals counts as much as a win against the Red Sox, Angels, Tigers, Indians and the Mets.
If Clemens returns on Monday, then that's fine by me. I'm tired of people saying he should play against Boston in his first game back. The man is 44 years old, which is 3 years older than when Randy Johnson came our way. He's had all of 3 "spring" games in the Minors so far. Not even the Yanks play Boston in the first week of April. They play lesser teams before they go to battle.
Clemens was a Boston farmhand, so his connections there are very strong. Give him time to steady himself, rather than throwing him to the wolves. It's like if a guy just came off the DL, would you put him in a "must win" game that decided a lot? Sunday's game could be a rubber match, a sweep avoider or sweep possbility. I think that if you want the best performance from a pitcher, you should just give him time to build up.
All the sports writers want is headlines about how Clemens failed against Boston. Last I checked, we have 19 games against them, so a win against them is just like a win against anyone else. Let them go elsewhere if they need headlines designed for their more pompous and self-serving sound bites. I'd much rather that Clemens improves steadily as a pitcher.
farmsystem
06-01-2007, 09:01 AM
Organizations usually bring in managers who are opposite in personality to the former manager. I would expect a fiery type since Torre is a relaxed type of manager. Don Mattingly is supposed to take over but he seems too much like Joe Torre. At this point I think the Yankees will have a new manager possibly as soon as this season.
TonyStarks
06-01-2007, 12:18 PM
Girardi is NOT going to replace Torre. He is a terrific manager, but he's more of a teacher type. He can take a group of young guys and show them how to play the game like he did with the Marlins. A group of vets like the Yankees would not be the best fit.
Mattingly is going to get the job. George has been praising him lately, he revived Giambi's career, developed Cano as a hitter, and is well like as a bench coach with the team. If Torre goes, Mattingly is in.
I really believe the Giardi will be the next MGR for the Yanks.
If he's not then why the hell would the Yanks bring him back to the Organization? I think they brought him along so that he could replace Torre.
It makes perfect sense.
Giradi is a teacher....but he's also fiery, passionate and shows me a hell of alot more emotion than that stone faced Torre.
Mr. Pinstripes
06-01-2007, 04:09 PM
Don Mattingly may get this, but I think we need him to return as a hit coach. The Yanks haven't hit anything since he moved from hit coach to bench coach.
I don't think Mattingly looks that comfortable as a bench coach. Need to put him back into a role where his skills and talents can be used. That would be a better fit for him and the batters.
I feel that Joe Kerrigan, who'd excelled in Boston and Philly as a pitch coach, would've been the wiser choice. However, he's now our bullpen coach. Which other team would've done this if they'd wanted to win games, rather than just appease their fans?
Kerrigan is someone else who might be in a position where his talents are not being used the right way.
I'd prefer that whoever signs on not try doing things the Joe Torre way. We need a spark plug in there, rather than sitting in the dugout sipping green tea and waiting for something to happen, and when it doesn't, having no Plan B, making endless excuses in the post-game interview.
As some of the rumors that have been circling around for some time, Girardi name has popped up a lot. I think he's there waiting in the wings. JoeyBulldog would bring that much needed fire, that is lacking in these players. Right now, it looks like many players are just going through the motions. Someone needs to instill in them what it means to wear that uniform.
RubeBaker
06-02-2007, 06:53 AM
Funny, no one hinks Larry Bowa has a shot? :rofl:
"Mattingly is a good one," Steinbrenner said. "He is a very thorough guy. He understands what it is to be a Yankee."
Given that this praise was handed down by the boss, I find it increasingly difficult to belive he would go behind Don's back now and bring Girardi when Donnie is only a step away.
I think Girardi will have some role with the team as maybe a hitting coach or a bench coach if Mattingly moves up.