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kylebee
05-27-2007, 06:01 PM
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I've followed some advice on this board as well as from another current pro, who advised me to start in a slightly bent-over position rather than leaning back like I used to. I've also attempted to shorten my leg kick and speed up the time from apex to foot plant to help build momentum (a Dick Mills-ish theory of pitching).

Today my fastball was 78-82, a vast improvement. Unfortunately, Chris O'Leary's point about my timing being off continues to persist. In the animated GIF, you can see that my arm is getting to high cocked position early and my shoulders begin to rotate before footstrike. Whether this is due to my stride being "uphill" of sorts (from what I can see) or just poor timing on my part is tough to tell.

It's actually quite frustrating - I know what I need to work on for the most part, that being the issue of timing footplant and throwing, but it's even harder to work on than previously imagined. While I was taping this side session, I seriously thought my hands were breaking later and my foot was getting down early, but it wasn't.

Any tips or cues that might help for Tuesday's side session?

Go Cardinals
05-27-2007, 06:12 PM
it doesn't look natural. The pitching motion looks choppy. Maybe your thinking about it too much rather than just throwing it...

AcidLake
05-27-2007, 06:27 PM
http://www.baseballdelusions.com/images/kylefastball.gif

I've followed some advice on this board as well as from another current pro, who advised me to start in a slightly bent-over position rather than leaning back like I used to. I've also attempted to shorten my leg kick and speed up the time from apex to foot plant to help build momentum (a Dick Mills-ish theory of pitching).

Today my fastball was 78-82, a vast improvement. Unfortunately, Chris O'Leary's point about my timing being off continues to persist. In the animated GIF, you can see that my arm is getting to high cocked position early and my shoulders begin to rotate before footstrike. Whether this is due to my stride being "uphill" of sorts (from what I can see) or just poor timing on my part is tough to tell.

It's actually quite frustrating - I know what I need to work on for the most part, that being the issue of timing footplant and throwing, but it's even harder to work on than previously imagined. While I was taping this side session, I seriously thought my hands were breaking later and my foot was getting down early, but it wasn't.

Any tips or cues that might help for Tuesday's side session?

What it makes the motion choppy is that, I think your stride action is kind of unnatural and robotic. Try to make a smooth and long stride. The great cue is this:

+try to stretch sideways

I think it's great for you to fix a little thing by little. Oh, and try not to swing the legs out. Unless if you are trying to balance

TG Coach
05-27-2007, 06:30 PM
You're not driving forward and letting your body do the work. You're tucking the lead arm too soon and dragging your hips throught the delivery. It looks like your hips are resistance to your delivery rather than part of it.

Jake Patterson
05-27-2007, 06:43 PM
Your body weight never gets past the left knee when planting - I think there's an injury waiting to happen here.

kylebee
05-27-2007, 07:42 PM
Your body weight never gets past the left knee when planting - I think there's an injury waiting to happen here.

Yeah, I injured myself in college with mechanics that looked like this. I changed them for the past 2 months by standing up straighter, but it involved a huge reduction of velocity.

I think working on breaking the hands later (fixing the timing) and working on a better weight shift should be the focus of my training. Thoughts?