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I'm_A_Shark
04-08-2007, 08:07 PM
Is it possible to wear a cap for a team that you only played a few games with? (Example: Mike Piazza, Florida Marlins)
And...
Is it possible that if a player could get booted out of the Hall Of Fame? (Example: Tony Gwynn admits he corked his bat, took steroids, and payed pitchers big money to let him get a hit sometimes.)
Captain Cold Nose
04-09-2007, 05:24 AM
Is it possible to wear a cap for a team that you only played a few games with? (Example: Mike Piazza, Florida Marlins)
And...
Is it possible that if a player could get booted out of the Hall Of Fame? (Example: Tony Gwynn admits he corked his bat, took steroids, and payed pitchers big money to let him get a hit sometimes.)
The Hall of Fame ultimately decides what is on a player's cap currently. That was done mainly to prevent such scenarios as the one you presented in your first question, so, no.
As for the second situation, while it's never happened with baseball before (but twice in hockey), it is possible a player, or anyone else, can have their HOF membership revoked. Corking one's bat and steroids won't get anyone thrown out, though. Paying pitchers off (and that would be a hefty sum in this day and age to get that to work) might.
I'm_A_Shark
04-09-2007, 08:11 AM
Thanks. I wonder if admitting to gamling would get you thrown out?
Honus Wagner Rules
04-09-2007, 08:24 AM
The Hall of Fame ultimately decides what is on a player's cap currently. That was done mainly to prevent such scenarios as the one you presented in your first question, so, no.
As for the second situation, while it's never happened with baseball before (but twice in hockey), it is possible a player, or anyone else, can have their HOF membership revoked. Corking one's bat and steroids won't get anyone thrown out, though. Paying pitchers off (and that would be a hefty sum in this day and age to get that to work) might.
Does the HoF have an actual mechanism or process in place to remove a player from the HoF?
KCGHOST
04-09-2007, 08:29 AM
To my knowledge the HoF has no mechanism to remove a player. Considering they play no direct role in the election of member (their catch phrase is "we don't elect, we induct") this doesn't seem surprising.
I think we would all hate to see a scenario arise that would require us to seriously consider the removal of someone.
Old Sweater
04-09-2007, 08:32 AM
Thanks. I wonder if admitting to gamling would get you thrown out?
If it was gambling on baseball, I would guess yes.
Don't think a HOF'er would be that dumb though.
Brooklyn
04-09-2007, 10:26 AM
If it was gambling on baseball, I would guess yes.
Don't think a HOF'er would be that dumb though.
I don't think gambling on baseball would do it, unless he gambled while he played or while he managed.
It would have been an interesting case study if Pete Rose had been inducted, then got thrown out of baseball for gambling while managing the Reds.
catbox_9
04-10-2007, 01:10 AM
The Hall of Fame ultimately decides what is on a player's cap currently. That was done mainly to prevent such scenarios as the one you presented in your first question, so, no.
As for the second situation, while it's never happened with baseball before (but twice in hockey), it is possible a player, or anyone else, can have their HOF membership revoked. Corking one's bat and steroids won't get anyone thrown out, though. Paying pitchers off (and that would be a hefty sum in this day and age to get that to work) might.
You mention the hockey hall of fame....who was kicked out?
Captain Cold Nose
04-10-2007, 05:09 AM
You mention the hockey hall of fame....who was kicked out?
Executive Alan Eagleson and league President Gil Stein. Eagleson got booted, I believe, for impropriety while head of the player's union. And Stein pretty much elected himself while still head of the league. That didn't fly under a new regime.
Fuzzy Bear
04-11-2007, 06:47 AM
If there were not such a mechanism in place, the HOF would be sure to develop one.
Allowing a HOFer who, after being inducted, was revealed to be someone who threw games (the ultimate sin) to remain in the HOF would be tantamount to continuing to have monuments to Benedict Arnold, if his treason had been revealed long after the fact (and long after the monuments were built). The HOF, as an institution, would lose credibility by the truckload if it continued to allow someone who threw games to remain honored.
I think there would be other scenarios in which a player's induction could be revoked. Possible scenarios would be:
(A) The discovery of SERIOUS pre-induction that came to light after the induction of the player.
(B) Commission of a henious felony AFTER induction. The HOF should, btw, as a condition of induction, require its inductees to continue to live up to certain standards of behavior that would include, at the minimum, living within the laws of the nation and state that they live in. (One wonders how the football HOF would have dealt with O. J. Simpson if he had been convicted in court of murdering his ex.)
(C) Post induction behavior that strikes at the very integrity of the game (throwing games, conspiring to throw games, running a drug or steroid ring for other players).
HOF induction is an HONOR, not an ENTITLEMENT. The HOF is about recognizing athletic greatness, but it's about more than that. We don't require players to be saints in order to be in the HOF, but there are minimum standards of personal conduct to get in, and there ought to be minimum standards of personal conduct to stay in.