Top Ten Starters in Baseball

[ChrisLDuncan]

Who are they? I have a bunch of options if you think of any more just ask a mod to add the guy. Here's my inital top ten:

Johan Santana
Roy Oswalt
Roy Halladay
Brandon Webb
Carlos Zambrano
Chris Carpenter
CC Sabathia
Jake Peavy
Dontrelle Willis
And I can't decide between a few young guys for the 10th spot.

[Brooklyn]

No Dice-K?

[Bronxbombers]

Pedro should be on if you are going to include Clemens

[Mattingly]

Is this thread for Top 10 for 2007 or career?
No Dice-K?
One start and he should be included??? :confused:

[ChrisLDuncan]

Is this thread for Top 10 for 2007 or career?

Ehh...if you think a guy has torn through the minors or had a good year in a limited amount of innings (e.g. Cole Hammels, Matt Cain) put him on here.

Pedro should be on if you are going to include Clemens
Pedro is going to be out until August, but I suppose in all fairness Rocket won't pitch until June so put Pero on here

No Dice-K?


He's had one start, against the Royals, like Mattingly said, at the year end poll I'll have him on here.

[plask_stirlac]

I included Lackey... if he was missed entire halves like Sheets and Harden, he's have better rates. Look at his first half last year.

Otherwise chalk... Clemens is not active right now.

[Seattle1]

Why don't we have Randy Johnson added.

:atthepc

[Mattingly]

Ehh...if you think a guy has torn through the minors or had a good year in a limited amount of innings (e.g. Cole Hammels, Matt Cain) put him on here.
Actually, you're the thread starter. If you want someone in there, I'll add him. I'd prefer not to add players on my own, unless the name is beyond obvious (B Sheets, C Zambrano, etc).

Again, is this for what's expected from starters in 2007 only, or is this career? Last 3 years (2004-06)? Please establish a criteria, so that people can better decide how to vote.

Thanks. ;)

[Honus Wagner Rules]

All I know is that Barry Zito is NOT one of baseball's top 10 starting pitchers.

[rockin500]

Actually, you're the thread starter. If you want someone in there, I'll add him. I'd prefer not to add players on my own, unless the name is beyond obvious (B Sheets, C Zambrano, etc).

Again, is this for what's expected from starters in 2007 only, or is this career? Last 3 years (2004-06)? Please establish a criteria, so that people can better decide how to vote.

Thanks. ;)
when it comes to active, i generally include the previous two years, so thats what i will be going on when i get around to voting. ;)

[mlazar]

no if ands or buts..... Rich Harden

[Skin & Bones]

Pedro should be on if you are going to include Clemens

Why?

Clemens, when pitching ( atleast in the past few years) has been much better than Pedro.

[Brooklyn]

Is this thread for Top 10 for 2007 or career?

One start and he should be included??? :confused:

I took this list to mean who are the 10 starters I'd want on my team right now. And Dice-K would make my top-10 by that standard.

If the standard is what have you done in your career, than he abviously doesn't belong. But if it is just 2007, he has done exactly as much as any one else in 2007 - one start. For anyone else, we are also speculating what they will do this year, albeit it specualting based on passed major league performance. For him, I can speculate based on Japanese league, scouts, WBC, spring training, and his one start, and I do think he is one of the 10 best pitchers right now. He may prove me wrong, but if he does so, I think he'll be proving a lot of people wrong

[cardsfanatic]

Boy, Felix Hernandez sure has a fan club here on BBF. :)

[plask_stirlac]

no if ands or buts..... Rich Harden

:laugh

If he could put together a streak of durability, he could be in the Top 10 securely
but making starts is part of being a starter from the question asked... we'll see this year.

If you pick Roy Oswalt you get 230 innings of Roy Oswalt, a full season. If you pick Rich Harden for a season you get him and his replacement for that rotation spot. In 2005 that was probably worth it, not in 2006 and in 2004 he was decent. Averaged 20 starts over 2004-2006.

For the ability to pitch the best in one game, Harden is up there (probably in his friendly confines, 1 run less in ERA). But for the complete package I'm skeptical.

[AutographCollector]

No Tom Glavine on the list? :evil

:D

[natsnsoxfan]

there was actually someone who didn't vote for Johan Santana?! :crazy :confused:

[Future:Greatest2BofAll-Time]

there was actually someone who didn't vote for Johan Santana?! :crazy :confused:

There's now two people who didn't vote for Johan Santana! :nosleep:

That's surprising must have a couple of "haters in the house."

[natsnsoxfan]

you realize that this isn't best pitcher right? its top 10. there is no way in hell that Johan Santana is not one of the top TWO pitchers in baseball let alone 10.

[ChrisLDuncan]

Actually, you're the thread starter. If you want someone in there, I'll add him. I'd prefer not to add players on my own, unless the name is beyond obvious (B Sheets, C Zambrano, etc).

Again, is this for what's expected from starters in 2007 only, or is this career? Last 3 years (2004-06)? Please establish a criteria, so that people can better decide how to vote.

Thanks. ;)

Ehh...I guess it's a projection based on a track record, but Glavine should be added.

[Erik Bedard]

Dang, why the low totals for Webb? All 21 people who didn't vote for him got some 'splaining to do.

[Colorado Express]

1. Santana
2. Sheets
3. Oswalt
4. Peavy
5. Harden
6. Zambrano
7. Kazmir
8. Smoltz
9. Halladay
10. Carpenter