Still fans?

[Jibbs67]

I'm curious as to whether you guys are still fans of the Dodgers franchise. Obviously most of you are probably Mets fans, but do any of you still hold allegiance to the franchise that you all loved before the move?

[AutographCollector]

Obviously this member is: http://baseball-fever.com/member.php?u=1901

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[MATHA531]

I'm curious as to whether you guys are still fans of the Dodgers franchise. Obviously most of you are probably Mets fans, but do any of you still hold allegiance to the franchise that you all loved before the move?

As far as most of us are concerned, the Dodger franchise ceased to exist on 09 October 1957 when a greedy fat sub human piece of slime destroyed the bond that baseball supposedly had with its fans and its community because he was only making more money than almost everybody else in baseball and wanted more. He lied and tried to place the blame on NYC officials who had the audacity to enforce NY State law against giving him land belonging to others for next to nothing instead of going out, as was the custom then, of procuring the land himself. And then he kept telling the people he wanted to stay even though he had long before committed to stealing the franchise from its fans. He had accomplices in this most despicable act, perhaps the most despicable in the history of baseball and for that matter all of sports.

And you want to know if anhybody who was a true Dodger fan has any allegiance whatsoever to the near criminal imposters on the left coast? You've got to be kidding.

[Shotgun Shuba]

The Move is a very strong topic of discussion on this board and as long as there is one Brooklyn Dodger fan left there will always be bitterness. I was born in 1969 and my father loved baseball. He hated the Dodgers of any city but he taught me all about the Golden Era of NYC baseball and I grew up knowing as much about Mays and Snider as I did Gooden and Strawberry. The Brooklyn Dodgers and New York Giants were not teams of the past to me, I lived with them every day of my life. I remember going to a Dodger-Met game in 1989 and the ushers were still talking about what it was like when they worked at Ebbets Field. The hurt is still there and people remember. In terms of my life, I NEED to root for the Dodgers and follow the Giants. I need that connection to the Brooklyn days and the Polo Grounds or it means they are dead and I don't want to live that way. We each live in realities of our own creation and I choose to believe the Dodgers of Brooklyn are connected to the Dodgers of Los Angeles. That is MY reality and I am happy with it, others were truly hurt and shouldn't follow that reality. I will tune in to Opening Day and root for the Dodgers and have visions of Junior Gilliam dancing in my head and feel a connection the Dodger teams of the past, regardless of geography. Am I deluding myself? Probably, but it makes me happy and thats all you can ever ask of sports.

[DODGER DEB]

Obviously this member is: http://baseball-fever.com/member.php?u=1901

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As long time MODERATOR of this Forum, I am very proud the message MY SIG conveys!

OUR DODGERS, the one and only real BROOKLYN DODGERS, ceased to be on October 9, 1957.....period!

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[AutographCollector]

As long time MODERATOR of this Forum, I am very proud the message MY SIG conveys!

OUR DODGERS, the one and only real BROOKLYN DODGERS, ceased to be on October 9, 1957.....period!

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I knew that you were a big fan Deb, that's why I put your profile link down. I had no idea who else was a big Brooklyn fan. Obviously people didn't like that what my 1st post read... because I received several pm's over it. I have no clue why. In no way, shape or form was I being disrespectful.

[Bklyn Boy since 1936]

I'm curious as to whether you guys are still fans of the Dodgers franchise. Obviously most of you are probably Mets fans, but do any of you still hold allegiance to the franchise that you all loved before the move?
The "Dodgers franchise" that I came to know and love in my youth was officially known as "THE BROOKLYN NATIONAL LEAGUE BASE BALL CLUB". The team that played for "THE BROOKLYN NATIONAL LEAGUE BASEBALL CLUB" was known as THE BROOKLYN DODGERS.

"THE BROOKLYN NATIONAL LEAGUE BASE BALL CLUB" and therefore THE BROOKLYN DODGERS no longer exist ... except in the hearts, minds and fond memories of many of us on this ... THE BROOKLYN DODGERS FORUM.

Today there are many teams playing throughout the world that chose to use the DODGERS name ... many in the Little Leagues around the country. However, I've yet to associate any of those teams with THE BROOKLYN DODGERS that played for "THE BROOKLYN NATIONAL LEAGUE BASE BALL CLUB".

Just one persons opinion.

[ColtscorrAL]

As I've said many times I was only eight when the Dodgers moved, and I remain a Dodger fan to this day. I understand the pain many long time Dodger fans experienced and still experience to this day. I've had my two favorite teams, the other is the Colts, pulled out from under me. But in both cases, my love for the teams over came any bitterness I may have had.

[Bklyn Boy since 1936]

It seems to me that some feel that many BROOKLYN DODGERS Fans harbor some sort of "Bitterness", Ill-will, animosity, antagonism, loathing, vitriol, hostility or whatever for any team that choses to use the "Dodgers" as their team name. That is certainly not true in my case. As I stated above THE BROOKLYN DODGERS that I grew up with played for "THE BROOKLYN NATIONAL LEAGUE BASE BALL CLUB".

It is my understanding that "THE BROOKLYN NATIONAL LEAGUE BASE BALL CLUB" ceased to exist after the 1957 Major League season ended. Therefore, why would I harbor any feelings ... good or bad ... to any other team who choses to emulate that great team and use that team name. After all, isn't imitation the best form of flattery?

HOWEVER, there is one slimeball who was responsible for MY TEAM ceasing to exist and I reserve those feelings of "Bitterness", Ill-will, animosity, antagonism, loathing, vitriol, hostility or whatever for him.

[Lprof]

I'm curious as to whether you guys are still fans of the Dodgers franchise. Obviously most of you are probably Mets fans, but do any of you still hold allegiance to the franchise that you all loved before the move?
They can rot in hell.

[Lprof]

The Move is a very strong topic of discussion on this board and as long as there is one Brooklyn Dodger fan left there will always be bitterness. I was born in 1969 and my father loved baseball. He hated the Dodgers of any city but he taught me all about the Golden Era of NYC baseball and I grew up knowing as much about Mays and Snider as I did Gooden and Strawberry. The Brooklyn Dodgers and New York Giants were not teams of the past to me, I lived with them every day of my life. I remember going to a Dodger-Met game in 1989 and the ushers were still talking about what it was like when they worked at Ebbets Field. The hurt is still there and people remember. In terms of my life, I NEED to root for the Dodgers and follow the Giants. I need that connection to the Brooklyn days and the Polo Grounds or it means they are dead and I don't want to live that way. We each live in realities of our own creation and I choose to believe the Dodgers of Brooklyn are connected to the Dodgers of Los Angeles. That is MY reality and I am happy with it, others were truly hurt and shouldn't follow that reality. I will tune in to Opening Day and root for the Dodgers and have visions of Junior Gilliam dancing in my head and feel a connection the Dodger teams of the past, regardless of geography. Am I deluding myself? Probably, but it makes me happy and thats all you can ever ask of sports.

The Los Angeles Dodgers stole my childhood from me; at a point in my life when the Dodgers were just about the only thing I thought I could rely on, they betrayed me. It was four years until the Mets came into existence. That doesn't sound like a long time, I guess, but to a kid it is an eternity.

[Shotgun Shuba]

I am sorry that The Move hurt you so badly. I know what it is like to love a sports team with all your heart and have them disappoint you.
You, however, made an even worse decision. Who in the world would ever root for the Pale Hose over the Cubs. I would think an old Brooklyn fan would gravitate to the North Side like a moth to a flame. I was never happier in my whole life than when I was sitting at Wrigley one sunny afternoon. Repent!!

[Lprof]

I am sorry that The Move hurt you so badly. I know what it is like to love a sports team with all your heart and have them disappoint you.
You, however, made an even worse decision. Who in the world would ever root for the Pale Hose over the Cubs. I would think an old Brooklyn fan would gravitate to the North Side like a moth to a flame. I was never happier in my whole life than when I was sitting at Wrigley one sunny afternoon. Repent!!
Look at it this way: I was a big Mets fan (I even had a job covering them for a Queens weekly, the Long Island Post, in the summer of 63, right after I graduated high school; I sat in the press box and clubhouse and I still have my published interviews with Jesse Gonder, Ken Mackenzie and Larry Bearnearth). But when I moved in 73 (for career purposes) I thought I would try to feel at home by hooking into a Chicago team. But how, in the early 70s, could a Mets fan root for the Cubs? The Bleacher Bums? Santo's kick? Leo the Lip? Never. Growing up, the White Sox were one of only two teams (along with Cleveland) that ever gave the hated Yankees trouble, and I certainly had nothing against them, so I figured, what the heck. In some ways the Sox are a lot like the Mets--the second team in town (I just got back from LaGuardia, and in the stores there I literally saw only Yankee stuff). Now that the Mets are building a stadium to look something like Ebbets Field and my daughter has moved to NY, I am back following the Mets as my second team (I listen to them on the computer, and get the Times to hear something about them; in Chicago the sports stations talk 70% about the Cubs anyway, so I'm sort of used to not having my team followed all that much locally).

[Lprof]

I am sorry that The Move hurt you so badly. I know what it is like to love a sports team with all your heart and have them disappoint you.
You, however, made an even worse decision. Who in the world would ever root for the Pale Hose over the Cubs. I would think an old Brooklyn fan would gravitate to the North Side like a moth to a flame. I was never happier in my whole life than when I was sitting at Wrigley one sunny afternoon. Repent!!
One other quick point: Have you spoken to a lot of Cub fans, to see how little they know about baseball? (not all, certainly, but a lot). The joke is, Wrigley would sell out if they turned all the seats around. It's the vines, the bars, and the babes. Call me old fashioned, but I am much more of a purist than that.

[Lprof]

The Move is a very strong topic of discussion on this board and as long as there is one Brooklyn Dodger fan left there will always be bitterness. I was born in 1969 and my father loved baseball. He hated the Dodgers of any city but he taught me all about the Golden Era of NYC baseball and I grew up knowing as much about Mays and Snider as I did Gooden and Strawberry. The Brooklyn Dodgers and New York Giants were not teams of the past to me, I lived with them every day of my life. I remember going to a Dodger-Met game in 1989 and the ushers were still talking about what it was like when they worked at Ebbets Field. The hurt is still there and people remember. In terms of my life, I NEED to root for the Dodgers and follow the Giants. I need that connection to the Brooklyn days and the Polo Grounds or it means they are dead and I don't want to live that way. We each live in realities of our own creation and I choose to believe the Dodgers of Brooklyn are connected to the Dodgers of Los Angeles. That is MY reality and I am happy with it, others were truly hurt and shouldn't follow that reality. I will tune in to Opening Day and root for the Dodgers and have visions of Junior Gilliam dancing in my head and feel a connection the Dodger teams of the past, regardless of geography. Am I deluding myself? Probably, but it makes me happy and thats all you can ever ask of sports.

I am really intrigued by your reasoning. The very fact of your chosen name, Shotgun Shuba, shows you are very conversant about the old Dodgers, though apparently you aren't old enough to have seen them. But don't you think it is the Mets, not the LA Dodgers, that are the true descendants of the teams you think you are still following? Heck, just wait till the camera pans the crowd at the LA Colliseum; doesn't that tell you, "we're not in Brooklyn any more, Toto"?