1964-65 Offseason Thread [Archive]

leecemark

02-23-2007, 08:37 AM

--This is a rough draft of the 1965 draft slotting and PFA assignments. Let me know if you think there is a problem with yours.

Draft position/PFA slot......traded picks/PFA assingment
1/12 Redbirds .................1st to Legends/Charlie Lau
2/11 Stingers..................none/Billy Stafford
3/10 Shoeless Joes..........2nd to Skipjacks/Billy Richardson
4/9 Legends...................2nd to HC/Billy Hoeft* (traded to Redbirds)
5/8 Cannons..................1st forfeit, 2nd to HC/Gene Oliver
6/7 Gamblers..................1st to Shoeless Joes/Matty Alou
7/6 Pirates.....................1st to Redbirds/Robin Roberts
8/5 Diablos....................2nd to Legends/Bill White*
9/4 Gold Sox..................2nd to Hard Cider, 3rd to Knights/Camilio Pascaul
10/3 Hard Cider...............none/Juan Piazzo *(bought out contract)
11/2 Knights...................3rd to Skipjacks/Ken Boyer
12/1 Skipjacks.................none/Whitey Ford
*denotes player under multi-year deal who will be on the trade/waiver rule rather than outright free agency (or owner may opt for buyout and give them free agency)

--This looks like the worst free agent class yet with none of the PFA likely to be a real difference maker and some pretty worthless. OTOH, Mickey Mantle is a free agent due to expired contract. There may be some other talent available through that route that doesn't immediately come to mind.

leecemark

02-23-2007, 08:46 AM

--The attached file should have most of the player on your 40 man roster at the end of 1964. I have not made any changes based on free agency (or anything else). Also, if a player did not play in 1964 or 1965 (in real life) they may be missing from your roster. Please point out any problems you see on your roster and I'll get it updated.

Erik Bedard

02-23-2007, 01:46 PM

Gold Sox players who will not be returning:

Ernie Broglio (contract expired)
Willie Davis (contract expired)
Nellie Fox (non-tender)
Art Mahaffey (non-tender)
Camilo Pascual (PFA)
Dick Stigman (non-tender)
Johnny Blanchard (contract expired)

jkc32

02-23-2007, 02:40 PM

FN & LN, POS, 64 Salary, Reason for Cut
Jim Hickman, OF, 5.00, Contract expired
Sam Bowens, OF, 1.00, Contract expired
Jerry Grote, C, 0.25, Contract expired
Nick Willhite, P, 0.25, Contract expired
Hal Brown, P, 0.25, Contract expired
Jim Duffalo, P, 0.75, Contract expired
Bobby Richardson, 2B, 1.75, PFA
George Alusik, OF, 0.25, Retired

The Dude

02-23-2007, 07:54 PM

Non-Tendered
C Elston Howard (10.75m, 61 Draft)
LHP Jack Kralick (2.75m, 64, Trade/w Lew)
RHP Don Lee (1.25m, 61 Draft Trade W/Mac)

Those are the salaries those guys are due next season.

Expired
LHP Jim O'Toole (6.25m, 62-64)
CF Bill Cowan (.25m 64)
LHP Frank Kreutzer (.25m, 64)
2B Nate Oliver (.25m, 64)
OF Duke Snider (.25m, 64)
CF Nelson Mathews (.25M 64)

mac195

02-23-2007, 09:22 PM

HC management has accepted a generous offer from Papi's Pirates for CKL strikeout king Sandy Koufax. Joining the Hard Cider for '65 will be veteran starter Robin Roberts. HC also gets the Pirates' 2nd round pick in the '65 draft, their 1st rounder in '68, and their 2nd round pick in '69.

Good luck to the Pirates in '65. That Koufax/Marichal 1-2 combo will be hard to beat.

mac195

02-23-2007, 10:07 PM

HC are betting that lefty Steve Hamilton is on the verge of greatness as a closer.

To the Legends: their 65 2nd round and 66 3rd round picks back, and Hank Aguirre.

To the Hard Cider: 67 3rd rounder back, plus Steve Hamilton and SS Andre Rodgers.

Lew, if you would confirm?

leecemark

02-23-2007, 10:09 PM

--Subject to change between now and the deadline

C: Tim McCarver (1.50m, 61 draft)
1B: Jim Gentile (8m, 61 draft)
2B: Dick McAuliffe (4m, 61 draft)
3B: Don Wert (500K, 63 draft/trade with Shoeless Joes)
SS: Leo Cardenas (2.75m, 61 draft)
LF: Willie Horton (750K, 1964 draft)
CF: Willie Mays (12m, franchise player)
RF: Billy Williams (12.25M, 61 draft)

-bench

IF: Dick Green (500K, 63 draft, trade with Skipjacks)
IF: Junior Gilliam (4M, 61 draft)
OF: Lee Thomas (1.50M, 61 draft)
C: Don Pavletich (500K, 61 draft/trade with Hard Cider)
OF: Lee Maye (1M, 61 draft)
1B: Wes Parker (250K, 64 draft)

Rotation
SP: Vern Law (500K, 61 draft)
SP: Gary Peters (4.50m, 61 draft)
SP: Bobby Bolin (2M, 61 draft)
SP: Sonny Seibert (1M, 64 draft)
SP: Bob Bruce 750K, 1961 draft)

- Bullpen

CL: Barney Schultz (1.75m, 61 draft)
RH Setup: Don Larsen (1M, 61 draft)
LHSU: Bill Henry (1.25M, 61 draft/trade with Cannons)
LM: Lindy McDaniel (2M, 1961 draft)
RP: Arnie Early (500K, 61 draft)
RP: Jack Aker (250K, 64 draft)

Farm hands
RP: Don Nottebart (1.25M, 61 draft ) - AAA
RP: John Purdin (250K, 64 draft) - A
SP: Dave Boswell (250K, 64 draft) - AAA
SP: Larry Dierker (250K, 64 draft) - AAA
SP: Mike McCormick (250K, 64 FA-3 years) - AAA
SP: Mel Queen (250K, 674 draft) - A
RP: John Wyatt (750K, 61 draft) - AAA
OF: Adolpho Phillips (250K, 64 draft) - AA
1B: Rich Reese (250K, 64 draft) - A

PFA:
3B: Ken Boyer (8.5M, 61 draft, trade with Redbirds)

Expired contracts
1B: Ernie Banks (3yr/1M, 62-64, trade with Redbirds
OF: Jimmie Piersall (4.75M, FA 64-1 year)
C: Del Crandell (4.75M, FA 64-1 year)
RP: Ryne Duren (4.75M, 64 FA-1 year)

68.50M for 34 players

Edgartohof

02-23-2007, 10:13 PM

The Pirates are excited with their new addition to their team! The team is looking for an immediate impact player and they believe this to be him. Koufax has dominated this league to date and we have all confidence in his ability to continue in like fashion.

We believe this move will help to make our team a legitimate powerhouse in the near future (very near future).

While we will miss Roberts, who was a tremendous asset to this team, a great mentor to our newer players, staying with him was not in the best interest of the organization. But we do wish him the best of luck in his future ventures (but not too much of course :) ).

Of course the team does recognize the cost of this trade and any future ramifications that this may bring, but in the end - we don't care, 'cuz we got Koufax!!!!!

mac195

02-23-2007, 10:44 PM

Expired Contracts:
OF: Roger Maris
OF: Gene Stephens
RP: Tom Butters
C: Cam Carreon
IF: Jim Davenport
OF: Lou Clinton
RP: Chi Chi Olivo

Non-Tendered:
SS: Eddie Bressoud
3B: Rich Rollins

Retired:
RP: Bobby Shantz

mac195

02-23-2007, 10:50 PM

Of course the team does recognize the cost of this trade and any future ramifications that this may bring, but in the end - we don't care, 'cuz we got Koufax!!!!!
Did I mention that Sandy's arm has been a bit sore lately...? ;)

Edgartohof

02-23-2007, 10:58 PM

Did I mention that Sandy's arm has been a bit sore lately...? ;)

Did I mention Roberts is 38?

Edgartohof

02-23-2007, 10:59 PM

Well, as it stands right now, my starting rotation has an actual ERA+ of 135 and a WHIP of 1.042! Beat that!!!

leecemark

02-24-2007, 07:10 AM

mac195

02-24-2007, 07:39 AM

--Roberts is a free agent (PFA) and not eligible to be traded. Sorry, but its back to the drawing board on this deal.

Ouch. Actually it could turn out to be painful for the Knights in the short term because, with this deal scrapped, I will accept the Gold Sox offer:

Gold Sox's '65 2nd, '67 2nd, '68 3rd, and '69 1st round picks, plus Dennis Bennett for Koufax.

Eric Bedard, if you would confirm...?

leecemark

02-24-2007, 08:00 AM

--Pretty determined to dump your ace aren't you, Mac? I'm a little surprised since I think you have the best returning roster for 1965. Plugging Bennett in for Koufax could be the difference between another run at a title and losing the division for the first time. Also, you need to elect between making Cash your PFA or moving Pizzaro (same slot, but under contract). To refresh your memory, the options for Pizzaro would be trading him (good luck with that), putting him on waivers (and retaining the contract if you get no takers), or buying him out, which would be a cap hit of his full 1965 salary.
--ElHalo, Bill White is in the same situation as Pizzaro, except that you have no option to make another player your PFA. If you haven't traded him by then, White would be exposed to waivers 24 hours prior to the opening of the free agent market. At that point the team with the worst 1964 record who put in a claim would assume his contract. Unlike Pizzaro, White is a pretty good value so I think you should be able to get something in return if you get on finding a trade partner.

leecemark

02-24-2007, 08:08 AM

--After 4 seasons the career standings for the CKL
Hard Cider 445 wins
Knights 444 wins
Skipjacks 389 wins
Cannons 384 wins
--The Gold Sox and Pirates are the other teams with winning records, but each, of course, has only one season of history behidn them.

mac195

02-24-2007, 08:17 AM

I will buy out Pizarro's contract.

Mac? I'm a little surprised since I think you have the best returning roster for 1965.
That's why I traded him. Having the best team, I would have had to seriously tank to avoid losing him to forced free agency after '65 anyway. And tanking is no fun. Also, I didn't have enough cap room to buy another FA to protect him.

Plugging Bennett in for Koufax could be the difference between another run at a title and losing the division for the first time.
Bennett will stay in the minors until '66 when he is decent. The tentative rotation is:
1 Bunning
2 Richert
3 Ellis
4 Bunker
5 Stange (skip)

Three through five are not world beaters, but they aren't terrible. And with over 20 million in cap room now availible, I should be able to improve on that before the season starts. With any luck, I'll still be able to make another run at the title this year.

leecemark

02-24-2007, 08:21 AM

--The Knights are rumored to be in the market for an upgrade to their bullpen. Some names that have circulated are; Ron Perranoski of the Cannons, Billy O'Dell, Gary Bell and Al McBean of the Shoeless Joes, Claude Raymond, Frank Linzy and Lindy McDaniel of the Skipjacks, Ted Abernathy of the Legends, Hoyt Wilhelm of the Pirates and Al Worthington or Bob Lee of the Gamblers. The Knights have a large core of pretty good pitchers and would like to move some of the their quanity for quality in the pen. They also could part with either Jim Gentile or Lee Thomas or perhaps a young outfielder.

Erik Bedard

02-24-2007, 11:20 AM

I confirm. I needed Koufax, even though I really had to pay through the nose.

Edgartohof

02-24-2007, 12:26 PM

I'm trying to update my roster, but I can't seem to find the salary for Hoyt Wilhelm, so if anyone has that info, that would be great.

leecemark

02-24-2007, 05:00 PM

11 million dollars is Wilhelm's 1965 salary

J W

02-25-2007, 02:15 AM

There are several prominent names on the market from the Skipjacks, including big bat Willie Horton and slightly smaller bat Donn Clendenon, both ready for burst-out years. We also have a small surplus in our bullpen.

We're looking for help in the following areas, now and/or in the future:

- 2B
- 3B
- CF
- SP

We will consider all offers. :waving

leecemark

02-26-2007, 10:56 AM

leecemark

02-26-2007, 01:46 PM

--After my preliminary review of the upcoming draft, I'd have to say starting pitching is by far the strength of the rookie class. We've got 4 future Hall of Famers debuting in 1965, plus a Cy Young winner and a handfull of All Star caliber pitchers. There is a nice group of LH relievers too.
--The position players aren't as strong. No Hall of Famers and only a handfull of All Star types. Secondbase has no stars, but has the most depth this year. There are 5 guys who will be regulars for at least a few seasons.

catcher24

02-26-2007, 05:07 PM

Sorry, guys. I've been looking for the off season thread for a week, then when Mark puts it up, I'm not online for a couple of days!:o Oh, well.

Anyway, I do confirm the trade with Mac. He gets Hamilton, Rodgers and his third rounder back for 1967 draft. I get Aguirre, my 2nd rounder back in 1965, and my 3rd rounder back in 1966.

catcher24

02-26-2007, 05:12 PM

The Legends also announce another trade. Legends get the Redbirds first round pick in 1965. In exchange, the Redbirds get the following: the Pirates first round pick in 1965, which the Legends have via trade; the Hard Cider first round pick in 1966, which the Legends have via trade; Tony Horton; Floyd Robinson; and unhappy pitcher Billy Hoeft, who demanded a trade and is having his request honored.

Legends ownership says:" It looks like we're giving up a lot, but there are some great pitchers available in this year's draft, and with our own pick coming fourth, obtaining the first pick gives us an opportunity to draft two of those arms. We feel our team is ready to contend, but our pitching is still a bit suspect. We hope to improve ourselves in that area through this year's draft. With Big Mac at first, we felt there was no place for Tony Horton and decided to let Tony go elsewhere and perhaps become a starter. We'll certainly miss Floyd Robinson, who has given us three really decent years. But we feel that Rusty Staub is ready for the bigs, and I think Jim Northrup demonstrated at the end of last season that he's ready to start as well. So we took this opportunity to save the seven million Floyd would have cost us and will likely put it to use on the free agent market - pitching again, naturally. And Billy Hoeft was rather a disappointment here last year. He had some problems, became unhappy here and demanded a trade. We felt it was best for both sides to honor that request. We wish all three players the best of luck on their new team. We hope our fans understand this move and stick with us. Our brain trust feels that in a year or two, we'll be more than ready to contend for the championship, and will be contending for years to come. It has taken us a while to build, but we're just about there."

Scott, please confirm when you can.

catcher24

02-26-2007, 06:49 PM

The Legends announce the release of the following players:

Free agent contracts that expired after the 1964 season:
Mike Brumley, C
Frank Thomas, 1B/OF
Jimmy Stewart, Inf
Phil Linz, Inf
Doug Clemens, OF
Bob Perry, OF
Phil Ortega, P
Galen Cisco, P
Willard Hunter, P

Players who will be non-tendered and not offered contracts:
Derrell Griffith, OF
Harvey Haddix, P

This places the Legends current roster at 22 players and 49.25 in salary.

J W

02-26-2007, 10:42 PM

49.25?!?!? I think somebody's getting ready for the floodgates in '68. :laugh

We on the other hand are stuck with the bread we made. So, here's our trade:

The Skipjacks and Knights are swapping bargain OF prospects Willie Horton and Mack Jones. Jones fills the void at CF for the Skipjacks for a while and will drive in some runs for them to boot. Horton isn't known for his defense but with Willie Mays covering him, Mark picks up a very big bat.

To complete the deal the Skipjacks send RH reliever Lindy McDaniel, who's been so-so for the team, to the Knights for SP Bob Friend, who'll start #4 in the rotation and eat innings / protect our valuable prospects from free agency. McDaniel will have his good and bad years, but he's solid for a long time... and Mark gets some cap relief:

To Skipjacks:
Mack Jones (.50 mil)
Bob Friend (7.0 mil)

To Knights:
Willie Horton (.75 mil)
Lindy McDaniel (2.0 mil)

please confirm.

leecemark

02-26-2007, 11:19 PM

--The Knights confirm the deal. We hate to part with Jones, who has been our #1 prospect for 4 years, but Willie Horton will replace his bat and then some and we don't need someone to cover CF for the forseeable future.
--Bob Friend has been a very dependable pitcher for a long time and we expect he will be again this year, but we've got some young pitchers really pushing for spots in the rotation. We will miss the 200+ innings he can be counted on for though and will be looking to add another innings eater in free agency. The bullpen was out biggest area of need though and we think Lindy McDaniel can be a difference maker out there.

catcher24

02-27-2007, 05:16 AM

Posted by JW:
49.25?!?!? I think somebody's getting ready for the floodgates in '68.
A little planning ahead, since there is at least one player I'll be looking to keep when my 1963 rookies hit the FA market after the 69 season. But mainly, I've traded away most of my original picks, and the rookies are starting to take over now. Until they become FA eligible, their salaries are pretty low.

Looks like a good trade for both of you. I was going to try and put together an offer for Horton based on your needs, but hadn't had time to work it out yet. Guess the old saying "He who waits is lost" is still accurate!:laugh

baseballPAP

02-27-2007, 07:12 AM

baseballPAP

02-27-2007, 08:22 AM

The Redbirds announce the following roster moves:
Free Agents:
Charlie Lau (forced)

Expired Contracts:
Dick Donovan
Steve Boros
Buster Narum

Non Tendered:
Smoky Burgess
Bob Purkey
Eddie Kasko

Thats 36 players and 60.75 million.....

baseballPAP

02-27-2007, 08:23 AM

Oh, and no pitching, catching, and pretty thin in the middle IF too! It's gonna be a long road :(

catcher24

02-27-2007, 06:19 PM

Mark - Fridays are fine, and the best night for me without doubt. But the Fridays you're looking at in March are the 9th, 16th and 23rd, not the dates you have in the first post. I think perhaps you were looking at Saturdays when you took the dates. Your April 5th date is good. Sorry!

J W

02-28-2007, 02:37 PM

...just as an aside, I was refreshing my pics on my team page and I noticed Dean Chance has two different color eyes! His left eye is blue, and his right eye is green.

Who knew? :p

Erik Bedard

02-28-2007, 07:03 PM

Mark, I can't seem to find Zoilo Versalles' salary.

BTW, Johnny Blanchard's contract also expired, and it is now listed in my post.

leecemark

02-28-2007, 08:48 PM

--Versalles is in the last year of a 4 year-6.25M a year deal.

jkc32

03-01-2007, 12:54 PM

Shoeless is looking to move Dave McNally for a decent hitter (this season)...salary needs to be reasonable as I am cash strapped. Fielding position not important.

McNally has an ERA+ of 121 this season and 105 next. His complete stats are available here: http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/mcnalda01.shtml

McNally's salary this season is 1.50.

leecemark

03-01-2007, 10:55 PM

--Here is a list of free agents to date. Not all teams have made their non-tenders so this is incomplete at this time. As a reminder to the owners who haven't made their non-tenders yet, the deadline is midnight on Friday, March 9. Any player not released prior to that time will count against your cap for 1965. That is also the deadline for buying out the remainder of any multi-year contracts you wish to be rid of (with 1/2 the remaining value charged against your 1965 cap.
--The players on the attached list are unsorted. Those who debut in 1965 will go in the rookie draft, not as free agents, but each owner needs to break out the rookies on their own.

Edgartohof

03-02-2007, 11:14 PM

Non-Tender:
SP5: Roger Craig (RH) - 500K, 61 draft
P: Dick Donovan (RH) - 500K, 61 draft
RHSU: Bobby Tiefenauer (RH) - 500K, 61 draft
Ed Rakow (RH) - 750K, 61 draft
Jack Sanford (RH) - 1.5M, 61 draft
George Thomas (RH) - 750K, 61 draft

Retired:
Billy Pierce (LH) - 1.25M, 61 draft

Free Agents:
PFA - Robin Roberts (RHP) SP 3.25M, 61 draft
Joe Adcock (RH) 1B - 6.25M thru 64

This puts me at:

25 players
76.25 M

mac195

03-03-2007, 01:17 AM

Edgar, you don't have to buy out players from the 1961 draft, you can just cut them without paying anything.

catcher24

03-03-2007, 09:48 AM

Posted by Mac:
Edgar, you don't have to buy out players from the 1961 draft, you can just cut them without paying anything.

Robert, Mac is absolutely right, and he's saved you 2.5M in salary. The only contracts you have to buy out are Free Agent contracts - either premium FA or FA obtained in the secondary FA auction.

Also, I'm a bit confused as to how Pete Mikkelsen is a free agent. You should have him through the 1969 season, so I presume you are actually non-tendering him, which of course then does make him a free agent.

catcher24

03-03-2007, 10:07 AM

The Legends have reached agreement with the Redbirds on a player trade. The Legends will send Tony Gonzalez and Hank Aguirre to the Redbirds in exchange for outfielder Felipe Alou.

Legends management stated: We hate to lose Tony, who was a good leadoff and second hole hitter, but we needed a right handed power hitter, and Felipe should fit our requirements nicely. We would have liked to kept Hank, who we of course recently obtained from the Hard Cider, but we needed to include him to make the deal work. We wish both players the best on their new team.

Scott, please confirm when you can.

Mark, I believe that puts me at 21 players and 47.25M.

leecemark

03-03-2007, 02:30 PM

--The Premium Free Agent auction will consistent of the following players, barring non-tender or buy out of a contract in excess of 8M between now and the end of the non-tender period next Friday (midnight EST, March 9);
Charlie Lau: a backup catcher with decent pop
Billy Stafford: a swing man who can add depth to someone's staff
Bobby Richardson: good glove, no hit 2b
Gene Oliver: a good hitting 1/2 time catcher or 1B
Matty Alou: a sweet swing outfielder who hasn't quite put it together yet
Robin Roberts: experienced SP with 1 good year left in the tank
Camlio Pascaul: winningest pitcher in CKL history, but an injury risk
Juan Pizzaro: arm problems end his career as a SP, but usefull in the pen
Ken Boyer: rapidly fading former All Star, but might still help someone in 65
Whitey Ford: still a rotation pillar, but risky on a multi-year deal
Willie Davis: great defensive CF, but bat is slumping
Mickey Mantle: still an impact bat - when healthy
Elston Howard: still good behind the plate, but not so much at it
--Let me know if I've missed any expiring contracts at 8M+.
--Also, if the Diablos fail to trade Bill White by 24 hours prior to the PFA (midnight EST on 22 March) he will be exposed to waivers. Any team willing to claim him would assume the remainder of his contract. If multiple teams make a claim the one with the worst 1964 record would be awarded the contract. If no team makes a claim prior to the commencement of the PFA then the Diablos would retain the contract.

catcher24

03-03-2007, 06:50 PM

Right on top of things as usual, Mark!;) Heck, I think it was me that pushed for the PFA section dealing with 8M+ contracts, and had forgotten about it! In two years, we can drop subdivision one (forced free agents) when we begin using the section that refers to Hometown Discount Players with 5M+ contracts. Two more years of forced free agents. Just about the time we get away from that, we'll be looking at expansion looming on the horizon again!:crazy

538280

03-03-2007, 07:05 PM

538280

03-03-2007, 07:41 PM

Ron Hansen is on the trading block. He provides a good year from SS in '65, EX rating at the positoin and a decent 85 OPS+ from that position. The Cannons are going with the youngster Bert Campaneris for the upcoming season.

mac195

03-03-2007, 08:48 PM

baseballPAP

03-04-2007, 04:51 AM

catcher24

03-04-2007, 06:54 AM

I had Felipe Alou's salary wrong. I am presently at 21 players, 47M in salary.

Mac, I think the list was pretty much from 1964. Mark didn't have all of the roster moves yet. He sent me an updated file, which I believe had all of the trades and roster moves just prior to my trade with the Redbirds, which leaves that move and Chris's roster drops. Here are updated files, again without the Legends/Redbirds trade or Chris's roster moves (I only included the two main stat pages):

20677

20678

leecemark

03-04-2007, 07:51 AM

Leaving the Cannons due to contract expiration will be:

Hawk Taylor, C
Felix Torres, 3B
Mickey Mantle, CF
Rollie Sheldon, P
Dick Estelle, P

Released by non-tender:

Joey Jay, P
Hal Reniff, P
Curt Simmons, P
Julian Javier, 2B
Joe Christopher, OF

Gene Oliver is also the team's PFA.

Cannons now have 30 players and 71.25 million salary.

--I only show 29 players on the Cannons. Chris and everyone else please check the attached roster report for missing or extra players. Still need non-tender reports from the Diablos and Wasps.

Wasp

03-04-2007, 01:19 PM

Working on my non-tender reports right now. ;) I have a question though. I have player who played in 1964, but then didn't play until 1967. Am I still able to sign re-sign him?

Wasp

03-04-2007, 02:15 PM

Expired Contracts:

Position Players:
Ruben Amaro
Dick Bertell
Joe Gaines
Marty Keough
Jerry May
Al Spangler
Dick Tracewski
Walt Williams

Pitchers:
Tom Cheney
Jim Hannan
Jack Lamabe

PFA:
Bill Stafford(Pitcher)

538280

03-04-2007, 02:37 PM

--I only show 29 players on the Cannons.

The discrepancy is Bill Kelso. I drafted him last year but I'm pretty sure I didn't drop him anywhere.

leecemark

03-04-2007, 02:42 PM

Working on my non-tender reports right now. ;) I have a question though. I have player who played in 1964, but then didn't play until 1967. Am I still able to sign re-sign him?

--If you drafted him in 64 he is still your player, but you have to pay him and he takes up a roster spot even though he is ineligible. If he was a free agent whose deal has expired he would be a free agent again and available at auction.

leecemark

03-04-2007, 02:47 PM

The discrepancy is Bill Kelso. I drafted him last year but I'm pretty sure I didn't drop him anywhere.

Any player who doesn't appear in a game in 1965 would not have been added to your roster. I've added Kelso to the Cannons, as well as several other players pointed out by their owners. If you have a player in that category, let me know and I'll take care of it.

The Dude

03-04-2007, 03:47 PM

Mark, you still have Kreutzer on my roster. His contract expired this year.

Also, Dick Brown's contract expired as well, so I'm down to 30 players.

The Gamblers also have a lot of cap roop this off-season if you're looking to dump off an over-payed superstar.

jkc32

03-04-2007, 04:40 PM

Shoeless is looking to trim salary and is offering up Frank Howard (last year of a 16.5 salary) for a cheaper hitter (any position). Big Frank has a 137OPS+ and would be immediate offensive help for any contending team.

catcher24

03-04-2007, 05:03 PM

Posted by Dudecar:
The Gamblers also have a lot of cap room this off-season if you're looking to dump off an over-payed superstar.

Posted by JKC:
Shoeless is looking to trim salary and is offering up Frank Howard (last year of a 16.5 salary) for a cheaper hitter (any position). Big Frank has a 137OPS+ and would be immediate offensive help for any contending team.

You guys need to talk!!:laugh :rolleyes:

catcher24

03-04-2007, 05:21 PM

Posted by Mark:
If you drafted him in 64 he is still your player, but you have to pay him and he takes up a roster spot even though he is ineligible. If he was a free agent whose deal has expired he would be a free agent again and available at auction.

Just to expand on Mark's reply a bit, if he had at least one plate appearance/batter faced in 1964, he gets his 250K raise. Then he goes to the minors for 65 and 66. There would be no raise in 65, and actually none for 66, but prior to the 1967 season he would get the salary doubling that occurs after the third year.

As an example, Let's say you drafted player X in 1964, and his salary was 250K (not a top 12 draft pick). He plays in 1964, so he gets his 250K raise. Thus, his salary going into 1965 is 500K. He doesn't play in 1965, so no raise is due. Going into 1966 his salary is still 500K. He doesn't play again in 1966, so no raise, and his salary is still at 500K. However, since 1966 was the third year you had him, he does get a doubling of salary after the season, so his salary going into 1967 is 1M (500K X 2). Then, assuming he plays in 1967, he gets the 250K raise. His salary going into 1968 is 1.25M. If he plays in 1968, he gets the 250K and entering 1969 his salary is 1.5M. It doesn't matter whether or not he plays in 1969, because this will be the sixth year (64,65,66,67,68,69) that he's been in your organization, so he automatically becomes a free agent at the end of the season. If you wish to try and keep him at his point, you can make a free agent offer to him and take advantage of the "Hometown Discount" rule - that is, any other team wishing to make an offer has to beat your offer by a minimum of 20% (10% for 62/63 rookies, but you don't need to worry about that).

Yeah, it's a bit complicated :confused: , but we wanted to make it somewhat realistic, and it's NOTHING compared to the real life contracts.

mac195

03-04-2007, 06:01 PM

jkc32

03-04-2007, 06:11 PM

You have an offer in your PM box.

Please resend...I deleted it by mistake.

The Dude

03-04-2007, 07:02 PM

Quick question about this rule

3. Players drafted from the rookie pool will get an "arbitration bump" after their third season They will receive a one time doubling of their previous year’s salary.

What years does this apply to? Ie, should I have doubled my '61 rookies after last season, and my '62 this offseason?

mac195

03-04-2007, 07:29 PM

The doubling rule applies to all players selected in rookie drafts. The first rookie draft was held before the 1962 season.

mac195

03-04-2007, 07:35 PM

Please resend...I deleted it by mistake.
It was resent, and apparently received by you. Still awaiting a reply...

The Dude

03-04-2007, 07:52 PM

Ah, thank you. So I should be doubling my rookies from 62 and giving them the .25 raise for playing time this season.

mac195

03-04-2007, 08:13 PM

Ah, thank you. So I should be doubling my rookies from 62 and giving them the .25 raise for playing time this season.
As far as I understand, we just double their '64 salaries. There is no .25 raise for them this year.

jkc32

03-04-2007, 08:44 PM

It was resent, and apparently received by you. Still awaiting a reply...

Got it...response sent.

mac195

03-04-2007, 09:03 PM

Odd, I haven't received any PMs yet today. The box isn't full... maybe yours is?

jkc32

03-04-2007, 09:09 PM

Odd, I haven't received any PMs yet today. The box isn't full... maybe yours is?

Nope, I've been sending/receiving all day. I'm on AIM right now at jkc32 or I can email you the counter offer (what's the email)?

mac195

03-04-2007, 09:15 PM

...just sent a test message to myself, and received it. Please try the PM again.

J W

03-05-2007, 02:56 AM

For the Skipjacks:

Retired
nobody

Non-Tendered
zippo

Free Agents
LHP Whitey Ford (PFA)
RHP Don McMahon ($62-64)
2B Bill Mazeroski ($62-64)
2B Ron Campbell ($64)
UT Joe Koppe ($64)

Roster should be at 33 players, $81.75 mil.

leecemark

03-05-2007, 07:14 AM

--I've got you at 32 JW. Rosters are now updated thru the last post.

J W

03-05-2007, 08:18 AM

#33: C Orlando McFarlane, .25 mil, $64-66

jkc32

03-05-2007, 09:30 AM

The Shoeless Joe's trade Dave McNally and our 2nd round pick this season to the JW Skipjacks for Donn Clendenon, Felix Mantilla, and Johnny Lewis.

catcher24

03-05-2007, 11:27 AM

Posted by Mac:
As far as I understand, we just double their '64 salaries. There is no .25 raise for them this year.

That is correct, unless I misunderstood the intent when JW proposed the rule. Your 1962 rookies should simply have their 1964 salary doubled; next year, any 1963 rookies will have the salary doubled; etc. This doubling replaces the 250K raise. The only difference would be any players drafted as rookies who remain in the minors their entire third season (if there were any), although they wouldn't get the 250K raise, should still have whatever their current salary is doubled.

Nice trade between JW and the Shoeless Ones, for both sides. Sorry to see Jason get any more decent arms :ughh , but the Joes add some decent pop.

J W

03-05-2007, 11:46 PM

Skipjacks confirm

We're deep at 1B but we were concerned at first over losing Mantilla's bat. In the end we decided we wanted at least a decent glove at 2B, which we have in Gagliano and Salmon. That sealed the deal.

Our team should now stand at 31 players and a smooth $80 mil. We're going to pull the reins back for a bit, but we'll always listen to trade offers.

jkc32

03-06-2007, 05:09 AM

Shoeless is putting Mickey Lolich (1.50, available through 1968) on the trading block. With 3 of his next 4 campaigns being very good seasons, we are looking, at least, for a decent hitter (non-1B) with a low salary. We will consider all offers, including those involving pick/player combos. If you missed out on McNally, here's an opportunity to get a better SP in Lolich.

Also still available is Frank Howard with his big bat and big salary. He doesn't want to be Shoeless in 65...can you help him?

Special consideration will be given to anyone willing to trade for both Lolich/Howard.

leecemark

03-07-2007, 06:09 AM

--Last reminder on the non-tender/buyout deadline. Anyone still on your roster as of midnight EST on Friday, March 9 will count against your cap for the entire 1965 season.
--The rookie draft thread will go up shortly after the non-tender deadline is passed. The clock won't start ticking until 8PM EST on Friday, March 16, when we will complete the first three rounds. Pre-picking will be allowed as soon as the thread goes up though. This should give everyone an opportunity to make their own first round pick, rather than some having to use a proxy. It will also allow more opportunity to deal a first rounder if the guy you want is gone or trade for a pick if someone you want slips in the draft.

catcher24

03-07-2007, 07:24 PM

You'll have the number one pick as soon as the thread goes up. I made the trade for the number one pick so I'd be sure to get him!

mac195

03-07-2007, 08:35 PM

It'll be interesting to see who that is, Lew. I'm not sure who I would take if I had the #1.

catcher24

03-08-2007, 07:14 AM

Pitching, and long range, is my top priority (Hometown Discount rule taken into consideration). That pretty much narrowed it down to three. I wanted the guy who could help me the quickest but was still the most consistent throughout his career (IMHO), so that should nail it down.

leecemark

03-08-2007, 07:38 AM

--I've run quite a few sims and I think we will have another very exciting and competitive season. The Cartwright has been a very competitive 3 horse race, with only the Wasps still in a building phase. The Hard Cider have still ruled most sims, but the Diablos and Cannons have won their share and the Wild Card has come most often from this division. The Hulbert has seen all 4 teams win at least once, although the Skipjacks remain the favorite. My Knights have won the Johnson all but once (Gamblers), but finished with a losing record and missed the playoffs that sim. Of course, the dynamics will change with free agents and a few rookies helpings some teams right away. I expect there will probably be a few more trades as well, not to mention owners will probably have thier teams set differently than I have for the sims..

catcher24

03-08-2007, 09:19 AM

Yes, the sims are helpful, but only minimally at this point. With the rookie draft (there are at least a few really high impact players for 1965 in this draft), the PFA auction (again, some pretty high impact players for 1965), and the regular FA auction (even here, a few players who could tip the tables just enough in 1965), running sims now will give only a bare idea. I know I'll run off a few once the draft/auctions are done, just to try and tweak my MP and lineups to give me the best results. I'm interested in seeing if Frank Howard goes anywhere, as well as Lolich, who are both on the trading block.

And let me make one more pitch for Diamond Mind. There are many reasons why if you can swing it at all, you should get it. One of the best is the ability to take the teams and run a few sims, to see if plugging in a certain player will have much impact. It also permits you to fine tune your lineups, pitching assignments and manager profiles. If everyone in the league had the game, we could help take some of the load off of Mark, too, by having the home team in each series sim the games then send the results to Mark. I know many leagues are run that way. Also, if you wanted, you could actually play a game or series head to head via the internet. That would be great for the playoffs! Just a thought, guys!

leecemark

03-08-2007, 09:40 AM

--I've never played head to head. I would like to play some of the series against the other owners who have DM that way this season. And when somebody else who has the program makes the playoffs those games should definately be head to head. Playing all the games myself is not any extra work, since all games not involving the Knights I just autoplay (just a few seconds to run all the other series'). It would be fun to play some against a live opponent though.

J W

03-08-2007, 01:33 PM

Well, taking both immediate impact and longevity into the equation (and I feel safe saying this since there's no chance he'll slip to us), I'll play speculative media member for a sec:

:radio Rumor has it that the Legends are hashing out a rookie deal that would have them draft Ferguson Jenkins with the first overall pick... :radio

Erik Bedard

03-08-2007, 02:10 PM

And let me make one more pitch for Diamond Mind. There are many reasons why if you can swing it at all, you should get it. One of the best is the ability to take the teams and run a few sims, to see if plugging in a certain player will have much impact. It also permits you to fine tune your lineups, pitching assignments and manager profiles. If everyone in the league had the game, we could help take some of the load off of Mark, too, by having the home team in each series sim the games then send the results to Mark. I know many leagues are run that way. Also, if you wanted, you could actually play a game or series head to head via the internet. That would be great for the playoffs! Just a thought, guys!

Lew, I just have a few quick questions, since DMB's website isn't being too helpful:

1) If I bought the game, would I also need to buy the season disk each season?

2) I assume Version 9 would be used, right?

3) How much does the actual program cost?

leecemark

03-08-2007, 02:32 PM

Lew, I just have a few quick questions, since DMB's website isn't being too helpful:

1) If I bought the game, would I also need to buy the season disk each season?

2) I assume Version 9 would be used, right?

3) How much does the actual program cost?

1) You would not need to buy the season disks. I send the new CKL file to DMB owners each season (with an updated copy after every other series).

2) Yes, version 9 is what we are using.

3) 49.95 plus 3.00 S&H gets you the program plus a sample league of selected past great teams.

Erik Bedard

03-08-2007, 03:07 PM

Great, thanks. Hopefully I'll get it within the next couple months.

catcher24

03-08-2007, 04:38 PM

Mark - Thanks for answering Dan's question. If you ever want to do a head-to-head series with the Legends, let me know. I'm up for it! Never tried it myself either, but I think between our two nearly genius intellects, we could figure it out! :noidea :laugh

Posted by JW:
Rumor has it that the Legends are hashing out a rookie deal that would have them draft Ferguson Jenkins with the first overall pick...

Legends management issued a statement today:"It has come to our attention that there is great speculation among the media types here that our number one pick will be Ferguson Jenkins. Let me be straight about this. Although I do not feel at liberty to reveal who might or might not be our number one pick, there exists a slim possibility that our pick may or may not be the Jenkins youth that speculators believe might be our number one pick. I hope that clarifies this issue once and for all."

The Dude

03-08-2007, 04:58 PM

Reliever Bob Lee is on the trading block. He has an excellent year once again this year and another good year in 1966, pitching over 100 innings each year. He could be excellent help in anyones bullpens.

We'll take a look at any offer. Also, pretty much anyone on my team is avaliable for the right price. Except Cuellar. Too much pride in that pick to ever give him up.

ElHalo

03-08-2007, 06:47 PM

Just want to double check that the 12 AM deadline is twenty seven hours from now rather than three hours from now. I'll be able to do it tomorrow night, but if the deadline is tonight, I won't be able to finish till after midnight.

The Dude

03-08-2007, 06:48 PM

C Dick Brown (.25m, 62-64). Forgot to post brown. I should be at 30 players.

leecemark

03-08-2007, 07:01 PM

--Deadline is 27 hours away,

mac195

03-09-2007, 06:28 AM

The Hard Cider are pleased to announce the aquisition of young left hander Mickey Lolich. OF Jimmy Hall and P Wally Bunker will join the Shoeless Joes.

J W

03-09-2007, 11:01 AM

That's a nice trade for the Shoeless Joes, who are making some noise this offseason in their attempt to dethrone the Skipjacks in the Hulbert. Meanwhile, Mac keeps stockpiling his LHP for Yankee Stadium... one of the few places in this game that lefties live up to their billing.

catcher24

03-09-2007, 12:16 PM

Yes, the Shoeless Ones are going to make life even more difficult in the Hulbert this season!:rolleyes:

jkc32

03-09-2007, 03:00 PM

The Hard Cider are pleased to announce the aquisition of young left hander Mickey Lolich. OF Jimmy Hall and P Wally Bunker will join the Shoeless Joes.

Shoeless confirms and immediately announces that Wally Bunker is available. Shoeless covets either a decent hitting SS/3B or solid reliever in 1965.

ElHalo

03-09-2007, 06:32 PM

Diablos' nontenders: Jesse Gonder, Joe Cunningham, George Altman, Bill Bruton, Chico Ruiz, Jose Pagan, Bob Hendley, Jack Fisher, Gerry Arrigo, Don Drysdale

FFA: Bill White (multi-year deal)

It's possible that Luis Aparicio's contract might be expiring; I'm currently looking into that, but I have to dig through lots and lots of pages to find it.

ElHalo

03-09-2007, 06:39 PM

And the Diablos announce some guys who might be on the trading block...

Ken McMullen. Yes, that really is a full season (618 PA) third baseman with a 109 OPS+ making league minimum.

And any of my pitchers other than Wilbur Wood. This includes...

Milt Pappas. 221 IP, 133 ERA+
George Brunet. 197 IP, 132 ERA+
Fred Newman. 260 IP, 115 ERA+
Tracy Stallard. 194 IP, 114 ERA+
Don Cardwell. 240 IP, 110 ERA+
Earl Wilson. 230 IP, 94 ERA+
Hank Fischer. 122 IP, 91 ERA+

Eddie Fisher. 165 IP, 133 ERA+
Fred Gladding. 70 IP, 123 ERA+
Jim Brewer. 49 IP, 178 ERA+
Bill Pleis. 51 IP, 120 ERA+

leecemark

03-09-2007, 10:11 PM

--The shocking release of defending Cy Young Award winner Don Drysdale adds another marque player to the Premium Free Agent auction. One can only imagine how bitter contract negotiations must have gotten to result in this move:ughh .
--To clarify on Bill White, he is not a free agent. He is the Diablos PFA, but is under a multi-year deal with 2 years to run (at 6.5M). The Diablos have until 24 hours before the PFA auction to deal him or he will go on waivers.
--Attached are what I have as the current rosters. Please review and let me know if there are any problems with yours.

leecemark

03-09-2007, 10:20 PM

--The Premium Free Agent auction will consistent of the following players, barring non-tender or buy out of a contract in excess of 8M between now and the end of the non-tender period next Friday (midnight EST, March 9);
Charlie Lau: a backup catcher with decent pop
Billy Stafford: a swing man who can add depth to someone's staff
Bobby Richardson: good glove, no hit 2b
Gene Oliver: a good hitting 1/2 time catcher or 1B
Matty Alou: a sweet swing outfielder who hasn't quite put it together yet
Robin Roberts: experienced SP with 1 good year left in the tank
Camlio Pascaul: winningest pitcher in CKL history, but an injury risk
Juan Pizzaro: arm problems end his career as a SP, but usefull in the pen
Ken Boyer: rapidly fading former All Star, but might still help someone in 65
Whitey Ford: still a rotation pillar, but risky on a multi-year deal
Don Drysdale: defending CYA winner is a surprise addition to the auction
Willie Davis: great defensive CF, but bat is slumping
Elston Howard: still good behind the plate, but not so much at it
Mickey Mantle: still an impact bat - when healthy
--Let me know if I've missed any expiring contracts at 8M+.
--Also, if the Diablos fail to trade Bill White by 24 hours prior to the PFA (midnight EST on 22 March) he will be exposed to waivers. Any team willing to claim him would assume the remainder of his contract. If multiple teams make a claim the one with the worst 1964 record would be awarded the contract. If no team makes a claim prior to the commencement of the PFA then the Diablos would retain the contract.

--I am going to run this year's auction in inverse order, starting with Mantle instead of Lau. That way if we don't get through it quickly (although it shouldn't take more than an hour) anyone who can't hang too long will have their shot at the stars. It will, of course, make it more important to be punctual. Mantle should be under contract with a new team (his 5th!) by 8:05.

leecemark

03-09-2007, 10:22 PM

--The rookie draft thread will be up in just a few minutes. The Legends and subsequent owners may pick whenever ready. Clock won't begin until 8 PM EST next Friday though.

ElHalo

03-10-2007, 05:54 AM

--The shocking release of defending Cy Young Award winner Don Drysdale adds another marque player to the Premium Free Agent auction. One can only imagine how bitter contract negotiations must have gotten to result in this move:ughh .

The Diablos are, of course, very sorry to see the dominating starter go, and are aware that his current salary is most likely far below what he would get at auction. The management has decided, however, that the team is already more than flush with high quality pitching (as referred to in my trading block post above) making significantly less than Drysdale, and that that the relatively large amount of money earmarked to Drysdale could be better spent elsewhere on more pressing needs.

In a surprisingly terse two word press release, Drysdale had this to say: "Some grattitude."

catcher24

03-10-2007, 06:50 AM

Posted by ElHalo:
In a surprisingly terse two word press release, Drysdale had this to say: "Some grattitude."

I'll bet I know what two words he actually said, but nice job of cleaning that up for public release!!:laugh :laugh

catcher24

03-10-2007, 06:56 AM

This is actually shaping up to be a very decent PFA auction. We now have Mantle, Ford, and Drysdale up for auction along with the lesser players.

That is quite a deep staff you have there, Jim. Wish I had someone to offer for one of those pitchers but I've pretty much traded away all my excess players!:eek: :laugh But maybe I can come up with something - let me look at that roster of yours!:dance

Erik Bedard

03-10-2007, 07:18 AM

Gold Sox trading block:

1B/3B Deron Johnson
1B Walt Bond
LF Leon Wagner
LF Tommy Harper (can also cover at 3B)

Desperately looking for starting pitching, as well as a backup C. Would prefer not to deal Johnson if I deal Bond, and vice versa. Same goes for Wagner and Harper.

Erik Bedard

03-10-2007, 09:13 AM

A final salary count going into the offseason leaves me at 33 players for 82.5M.

538280

03-11-2007, 02:00 PM

The Cannons and Diablos have announced a trade. The Cannons will receive pitcher George Brunet and 3Bman Ken McMullen from the Diablos and the Diablos will get 1Bman Fred Whitfield and SS Ron Hansen from the Cannons. EH, please confirm.

ElHalo

03-11-2007, 02:02 PM

Confirm. Not happy about it, but confirm.

mac195

03-11-2007, 06:03 PM

538280

03-11-2007, 07:08 PM

Hansen and McMullen are a wash. Brunet for Whitfield - you've gotta like that.

And I saved 4 million in cap room as well, I am happy with this trade.

ElHalo

03-11-2007, 07:30 PM

And I saved 4 million in cap room as well, I am happy with this trade.

I actually agreed to this trade before I looked at the cap numbers; judging by his skills, I'd assumed Hansen was a $0.25 or $0.5 player. I never would have agreed to it if I had known the actual salaries.

As to the rest, like I said, I'm not happy with it, but I need a starting first baseman and shortstop (Aparicio's contract did expire, so I don't have him), and I had extra pitching. I don't like it, but there's no point in crying about it now.

mac195

03-11-2007, 07:34 PM

I am happy with this trade
I would think so.

Now you've got an good starting rotation and an excellent lineup. Add a couple more good relievers and you're set.

mac195

03-11-2007, 07:47 PM

I actually agreed to this trade before I looked at the cap numbers; judging by his skills, I'd assumed Hansen was a $0.25 or $0.5 player. I never would have agreed to it if I had known the actual salaries.

As to the rest, like I said, I'm not happy with it, but I need a starting first baseman and shortstop (Aparicio's contract did expire, so I don't have him), and I had extra pitching. I don't like it, but there's no point in crying about it now.
I offered you the 4th pick in the 2nd round for Brunet, and instead you took Whitfield, he of the .315 OBP, with no more decent years after '65? I'm stunned.

Erik Bedard

03-11-2007, 08:24 PM

Add reliever to my list of wants. Steve Ridzik's contract expired. :ughh

ElHalo

03-11-2007, 08:40 PM

I offered you the 4th pick in the 2nd round for Brunet, and instead you took Whitfield, he of the .315 OBP, with no more decent years after '65? I'm stunned.

A second round draft pick would probably get me a relief pitcher who'll be a help three years down the road; I had an immediate need for a good hitting first baseman (with White in all liklihood gone to waivers), which I in all liklihood couldn't get with a second round draft pick; even a number four overall first round draft pick isn't likely to get me a player who can help this year. I said from the start I'd need two role players who could help me out this year for Brunet. McMullen, as a redundancy on my roster, was kind of just a throw-in; Chris' initial offer of Hansen straight up for Brunet wasn't going to fill my needs, so I felt I had to throw in something extra to get the extra hole filled I was actually looking for. I'm absolutely terrible at fantasy trades; usually try to avoid them, but in this case I had a surplus at one position and needs at others that weren't going to be filled just through free agency.

mac195

03-11-2007, 09:34 PM

True, you probably couldn't get a 1Bman who is good in '65with that pick, not unless Blefary was left, which doesn't seem likely. And the pickings are very slim at SS. This draft is mostly pitching.

catcher24

03-12-2007, 07:48 AM

Posted by Mac:
I offered you the 4th pick in the 2nd round for Brunet

That must have been prior to you trading that pick (my own) back to me.;)

Posted by Jim:
I never would have agreed to it if I had known the actual salaries

One of the first things I look at before making a trade are the salaries. If you check with Mac and a couple of others, they'll tell you I verify salary before pulling the trigger on any trade. I broke off trade negotiations last year for Hoyt Wilhelm because of the high salary. And I've been on the verge of making offers to a couple other owners, but when I checked the salaries, the guys I wanted were WAY too high.
But if I were in your position, and that one piece could mean a title, I'd do it too. However, I'm not in that position (yet - but soon!).

mac195

03-12-2007, 07:44 PM

That must have been prior to you trading that pick (my own) back to me.
Yeah, I meant the Cannon's pick, which is 5th.

The Dude

03-12-2007, 09:40 PM

According to the rules it seems we only have one franchise player, and once he's gone, we don't have it anymore. However, I'd like to put this idea on the table:

We go to a system that is somewhat like the NFL's. To make it less complicated, I'll just type my version out here.

-Once you lose your current Franchise player, you are able to sign any player on your team to a franchise tag salary of 12 Million in the offseason.
A.If you decide to sign someone who you signed as a free agent to a contract greater than 12 Million, they recieve a 20% raise until the end of that contract you signed them to, and then go back to a 12 Million Dollar a year guy.
B.If you designate a Franchise Player out of the rookie draft, they start off at 6 Million for their first 3 years, then jump up to 12 Million for the rest of their career.

Any thoughts on this? I just think it would make sense that each team will always have that one player who is with them long term.

leecemark

03-12-2007, 10:22 PM

--We added the "home town discount rule" to allow owners an enhanced ability to retain their drafted players. I wouldn't be opposed to a rule change allowing team to designate a new franchise player once their original one runs out of steam. I would want to limit it to your own draftees though and eligibilty would start with the 1966 draft at the earliest. If anyone would like to have further discussion on the idea, please post your thought in the discussion thread. I'll copy these last two post there.

catcher24

03-13-2007, 07:38 PM

Please see my post and thoughts on this in the discussion thread.

The Dude

03-14-2007, 10:45 PM

Mark, I was triple checking my listed roster, and you have

LHP Frank Kreutzer (.25m, 64)

Listed on my team. His contract is up.

catcher24

03-20-2007, 06:39 PM

Mark, a situation I discovered today while running some tests on reports for the league. I noticed that Luis Tiant showed 139% usage for the season. Thinking this was a mistake, I dug a bit deeper and it is accurate. What I had failed to take into consideration was the fact that I received him in a trade after the season had started. So, although he only had a 117% BF usage for MY team, he also had some appearances for the Pirates prior to the trade, putting his TOTAL usage at 139%. So, if you and the others want, I'll give up my 3rd rounder in 1966, since it's already too late to do it this year. Let me know how you want to handle this. Sorry!:ughh

leecemark

03-22-2007, 10:58 PM

--Appreciate your confession Lew, but the rules are no penalty unless you get a warning prior to going over. Tiant never made the usage reports.

catcher24

03-23-2007, 04:44 AM

Well, technically no, because I posted what the game created - which was only the time he spent on my squad. Then while testing, it ran the full season totals (for both him and Marichal - who, BTW, wasn't even close to going over). But thanks, I appreciate it.:waving

catcher24

03-23-2007, 08:37 PM

The Legends announce the signing of Matty Alou to a 13.5M, 5 year contract.

mac195

03-23-2007, 08:46 PM

Hard Cider sign Stafford for $2.00M - 1 Year. Ken Boyer is signed for $1.25M - 3 years.

leecemark

03-23-2007, 08:49 PM

--The Knights sign Camilio Pascaul for 2/7.75 and Gene Oliver for 3/12.25. I sure they win me a title this year though. I'll be buying them out at a cap killing 16.25M next year.

Edgartohof

03-23-2007, 10:27 PM

The Pirates sign Willie Davis (1.5 Mil/2 years) and Robin Roberts (10 Mil/ 3 years).

the Pirates are also letting everyone know that they are looking for any deals that may come around - namely any big name pitchers (have draft picks and solid prospects to deal with).

The Dude

03-24-2007, 02:20 AM

Gambler sign Drysdale (14.5) and Mantle (13) to 4 year deals.

Erik Bedard

03-24-2007, 07:59 AM

Gold Sox sign Whitey Ford to a three-year deal worth 8M.

leecemark

03-24-2007, 09:35 AM

Here is what I have;
Cannons 34
Gold Sox 36
Diablos 32
Shoeless Joes 38
Skipjacks 35
Knights 39
Legends 31
Hard Cider 39
Redbirds 40 (but with Bob Ueker as the only catcher?)
Pirates 34
Gamblers 35
Stingers 42

Erik Bedard

03-24-2007, 11:29 AM

Mark, you're missing Steve Blass, Ken Sanders, and Lou Piniella for me. None of them have any real-life appearances, but all are on my roster.

leecemark

03-24-2007, 11:52 AM

--That brings the Gold Sox to 39.
--It passed very quietly, but Bill White cleared waivers and he and his contract remain with the Diablos. The EH crew's offseason plan hasn't exactly gone like clockwork.

538280

03-24-2007, 05:22 PM

Lau is signed to a 1 year contract for 2.75m

mac195

03-25-2007, 12:28 AM

In a bid to add more punch to the starting lineup, and protect Jim Bunning from free agency, HC will give up three valuable reserves for slugging OFer, Rocky Colavito. Going to the Gamblers: Wes Covington, Ken Boyer and Bill Faul. Dudecar, if you would confirm...?

The Dude

03-25-2007, 12:31 AM

The Gamblers confirm.

Moe Green had this to say about the deal "We felt Rocky's production wasn't where we had wanted it to be. With the signing of future Hall of Famer Mickey Mantle, we figured we could do without Rocky's bat. But we now have a real swingman in our bullpen, something we were lacking, and a good 3rd-basemen in Ken boyer, just in case Killer's move to 3rd this season doesn't work out."

mac195

03-27-2007, 07:45 PM

HC sign the following players:

Roger Maris - 1.0M for 3 years
Joe Adcock - 250K for 2 years
Bill Mazeroski - 250K for 3 years
Smokey Burgess - 250K for 2 years

This brings our roster to 40 players, and payroll to 93.50M.

J W

03-27-2007, 07:51 PM

The Skipjacks will sign (can't see him on any team) Buster Narum to a 1 yr / .25 mil deal.

Wasp

03-27-2007, 07:56 PM

Jack Cullen (5M/2 years)
John O'Donoghue (2M/3 years)
Roger Craig 250k
Jim Landis 250k
Ken Hamlin 250k
Curt Simmons 250k

All signees

Total Salary 40 Players; 84.25 Million

Mark, check my roster page for the full list of players I have. It's fully updated now. Should be at 40.

J W

03-27-2007, 07:57 PM

The Skipjacks sign the incomparable Howie Koplitz to a 1 yr / $.25 mil deal.

J W

03-27-2007, 08:40 PM

Busy bees, The Skipjacks continue their work. They announce the signing of two recently cut players:

Floyd Robinson 2 yr/.5 mil
Bo Belinsky 1 yr/.25 mil

and release Buster Narum to make room. We eat the quarter million and stand at 40 players / $81.00 mil.

"Narum was informed of his release while standing in line outside Philadelphia National Airport. Upon hearing the news, he immediately went for the nearest bar."

ElHalo

03-27-2007, 10:36 PM

The Diablos are ecstatic about every aspect of their team but their pathetic bench, where the best hitter is Ken McMullen, a third baseman playing out of position in the outfield. They're also at 41 players. They make the following cut:

Ed Brinkman - 250K Diablos

The remaining players are signed to the following contracts:

Luis Aparicio - 8.25M Diablos - 5 yr
Ray Barker - 1.75M Diablos - 1 yr
Doug Clemens 250K Diablos - 1 yr
Pedro Gonzales - 250K Diablos - 1 yr
Jim Gosger - 250K Diablos - 3 yr
Eddie Kasko - 500k Diablos - 1 yr
Tony Kubek - 250K Diablos - 1 yr
Russ Nixon - 500K Diablos - 1 yr
Jeff Torborg - 500K Diablos - 1 yr
Bobby Wine - 250K Diablos - 1 yr

The roster should now be 40 players for exactly $90 million.

Erik Bedard

03-28-2007, 06:01 AM

Gold Sox FA signings:

Whitey Ford (8M, 3 yr.)
Juan Pizarro (.25M, 3 yr.)
Steve Ridzik (.25M, 3 yr.)

Gold Sox release:

Don Blasingame (.25M)
Jim Roland (1M)

I should now be at 40 players for 95.25M.

catcher24

03-28-2007, 10:07 AM

The Legends and Redbirds announce a trade, with agreement being reached this morning. The Legends will send 2B Bobby Knoop and their second round pick in the 1966 rookie draft to the Redbirds. In exchange, the Redbirds send their first round pick in the 1968 rookie draft to the Legends.

Scott will confirm when he gets the chance.

mac195

03-28-2007, 10:17 AM

Pretty soon we won't need to have a 1st round in our drafts. We'll just let Lew pick all the players he wants, and then start with the second round.

catcher24

03-28-2007, 02:45 PM

Posted by Mac:
Pretty soon we won't need to have a 1st round in our drafts. We'll just let Lew pick all the players he wants, and then start with the second round.

You know Mac, I rather like that idea! How about we try that in, say, 1967?:laugh

J W

03-28-2007, 04:33 PM

Well, the Skipjacks are officially looking to improve at 2B for this season only. Our projected starter is Glenn Beckert, VG glove, 61 OPS+. Bobby Knoop was just traded but what can I say, I was working in the field today. I don't think Lew would've wanted to trade him to me anyway. :o

We have two players filling the same role for us this season: Floyd Robinson and Len Gabrielson. If anyone wants a minimum-wage LH corner OFer with a 115 OPS+ and you have depth at 2B, we're listening.

ElHalo

03-28-2007, 05:04 PM

I actually should have said $90.5 mill; forgot to count the two players I cut.

baseballPAP

03-28-2007, 05:19 PM

catcher24

03-28-2007, 05:28 PM

The Legends contracts are as follows:
Jerry Buchek - 3 years, 1.5M
Jim Davenport - 3 years, 2M
Andy Etchebarren - 3 years, 4.75M
Jack Fisher - 3 years, 1.25M
Ron Hansen - 3 years, 250K
Chris Zachary - 2 years, 250K
Mike Brumley - 1 year, 250K
Dick Nen - 1 year, 250K
Vic Roznovsky - 1 year, 250K
Rollie Sheldon - 1 year, 250K

That brings us to 40 players with a total team payroll of 74.25M.

catcher24

03-28-2007, 05:30 PM

Posted by Scott: and by 1968, I'm hoping that won't be as high a pick as it was this year

Not to wish you any bad luck, because you had a miserable season, but I hope the pick is just as high!!:laugh :waving

Posted by JW: I don't think Lew would've wanted to trade him to me anyway.

Oh sure I would've. Yaz would've made the deal absolutely worthwhile!!

leecemark

03-28-2007, 11:11 PM

--I think I've got the rosters caught up. Let me know if you see a problem with yours. Attached are the rosters and batter and pitcher unsigned player listed. By my count roster sizes are as follows;
Cannons 38
Gold Sox 39
Diablos 41
Shoeless Joes 38
Skipjacks 40
Knights 39
Legends 40
Hard Cider 41 (42 with Gary Cooper who doesn't exist as near as I can tell)
Redbirds 41
Pirates 34
Gamblers 37
Stingers 48
--Everyone needs to be at 40 and have their profiles updated by midnight on April 5th,.

leecemark

03-28-2007, 11:39 PM

--The Knights sign Gerry Arrigo to a 3 yr/250K deal to get their roster to 40.

baseballPAP

03-29-2007, 01:16 AM

Redbirds release Hal "what is this stick for?" Lanier to get down to 40.

baseballPAP

03-29-2007, 01:31 AM

OK...now that teams have started to take final shape, the Redbirds have several options available to teams with holes to fill.....
First and foremost is about 3 very soild LH starting pitchers.... Fenway kills lefties, so I don't want a rotation featuring 2 or 3 southpaws. I drafted and signed FA based on talent though, so I find myself with a few guys who would be better suited elsewhere, like Podres, Rudy May, Hank Aguirre....

I'm not giving anything away mind you....but young guys signed for at least the next 4 seasons are always wanted, especially if the can hit a little :)

The Dude

03-29-2007, 09:03 AM

Tommy McCraw - 3 Years/.25m
Phil Ortega - 3 Years/.25m
Jim Duffalo - 1 Year/.25m

This brings me to 89.50 million

J W

03-29-2007, 09:20 AM

The Skipjacks are going to release the human revolving door, Buster Narum again and sign Jim Dickson off the pitching register to a 1 yr, $.25 mil deal.

J W

03-29-2007, 11:24 AM

The Skipjacks will also release catcher Jim French, who doesn't quailfy for anything but injury replacement, and sign backup shortstop Ray Oyler (1 yr/$.25 mil) to their farm team.

Unless someone's interested in a trade, our 40-man roster is set.

538280

03-29-2007, 07:39 PM

The CAnnons will sign pitcher Frank Carpin to a 1 year/.25mil deal and pitcher Hal Reniff to a 2 year/.25 mil deal to round out their roster to 40.

leecemark

03-30-2007, 11:09 AM

--Below is the Opening Day roster and managerial profile for the Knights. Please follow this format in your team post in the Roster Thread and copy and paste it to this thread. I will NOT be checking the Roster Thread for this information. The closer you are to this format and better I will be able to program your team to prefrom in the manner (if not quaility:cool: ) you hope for. Deadline for submission is midnight EST April 5. Anyone who has not submitted by this time will open the season with the rosters I've set up to run pre-season sims. Opening Day will be April 6.

25 man active squad
Starting Lineup
C: Tim McCarver (1.50m, 61 draft)
1B: Jim Gentile (8m, 61 draft)
2B: Junior Gilliam (4M, 61 draft)
3B: Don Wert (500K, 63 draft/trade with Shoeless Joes)
SS: Leo Cardenas (3m, 61 draft)
LF: Willie Horton (750K, 1964 draft, trade with Skipjacks)
CF: Willie Mays (12m, franchise player)
RF: Billy Williams (12.25M, 61 draft)

-bench
OF: Lee Thomas (1.50M, 61 draft)
IF: Dick McAuliffe (4m, 61 draft)
OF: Lee Maye (1M, 61 draft)
IF: Dick Green (500K, 63 draft, trade with Skipjacks)
C: Don Pavletich (250K, 61 draft/trade with Hard Cider)
C/1B: Gene Oliver (12.25M, 65-67)

Rotation
SP: Camilio Pascaul (7.75M, 65-6)
SP: Bob Bruce (750K, 61 draft)
SP: Vern Law (500K, 61 draft)
SP: Sonny Seibert (1M, 64 draft) - AAA
SP: Bobby Bolin (2M, 61 draft)

- Bullpen

RH Setup: Don Larsen (1M, 61 draft)
LHSU: Bill Henry (1.25M, 61 draft/trade with Cannons)
CL: John Wyatt (750K, 61 draft)
RP: Arnie Early (500K, 61 draft)
RP: Jack Aker (250K, 64 draft)
RP: Lindy McDaniel (2M, 61 draft/trade with Skipjacks)

Farm hands
Kalamazoo Squires AAA, Hamtramack Dragons AA, Cheyboygan Wizards
RP: Don Nottebart (1M, 61 draft ) - AAA
RP: Tug McGraw (250K, 65 draft) - AA
RP: John Purdin (250K, 64 draft) - AA
RP: Gerry Arrigo (250K, 65-67) - AA
RP: Dave Boswell (250K, 64 draft)
CL: Barney Schultz (1.75m, 61 draft) - AAA
SP: Gary Peters (4.50m, 61 draft) - DL
SP: Jim McGlothlin (250K, 65 draft)
SP: Larry Dierker (250K, 64 draft) - AAA
SP: Mike McCormick (250K, 64 FA-3 years) - AAA
SP: Mel Queen (250K, 674 draft) - A
OF: Adolpho Phillips (250K, 64 draft) - AA
Utl: Cesar Tovar (500K, 65 draft)- AA
1B: Rich Reese (250K, 64 draft) - A
1B: Wes Parker (250K, 64 draft) -AAA

89.25M for 40 players

Draft picks traded
--1966 second round pick acquired from Cannons
--1968 second round pick acquired from Cannons
--1968 second round pick traded to Shoeless Joes

Managerial Profile
Lineup vs RHP
2B Gilliam (Green DR)
3B Wert (McAuliffe)
RF Williams (Thomas)
CF Mays (Maye)
1B Gentile (Thomas)
LF Horton (Thomas)
SS Cardenas (McAullife)
C McCarver (Oliver)
PH vs RHP: Thomas, McAuliffe
PH vs LHP: Oliver, Thomas

Lineup vs LHP
#B Wert (McAuliffe)
RF Williams (Thomas)
CF Mays (Maye)
LF Horton (Thomas)
1B Oliver (Thomas)
C Paveltich (Oliver)
SS Cardenas (McAullife)
2B Green (Gilliam)

PH vs RHP: McAuliffe, Thomas
PH vs LHP: Thomas, Gilliam

Pitching
SP1 Pascual
SP2 Bruce
SP3 Law
SP4 Seibert
SP5 Bolin
Spot Starter: Boswell
Mop up: Aker, Early
Long man: Larsen, Akerl
LH set up: Henry. Early
RH set up: McDaniel, Larsen
RH Closer: Wyatt, Larsen
LH Closer: Wyatt, Henry

Profile
Batting
Bunt for hit: least
Sac bunt: Least
Squeeze: Least
Steal: Least
Take extra bases: Standard
Take pitches: Standard
Pinch hitting
for pitchers: Less
for non-pitchers: Less
for platoon partners: More
in blowouts: Standard
Pitching
pitch around - Standard
IBB - Standard
use relievers - Less
use closers - Less
Defense
hold runners - Standard
IF in - Standard
guard lines - Standard

leecemark

03-30-2007, 11:21 AM

--The Stinger had 8 expired contract player who did not get added to the free agent list for the auction. These players are now available. Anyone who wants to replace a free agent who they signed for minimum wage during the auction with one of these players may do so without being held accountable for the released players contract. Sorry for the oversight.

Expired Contracts:

Position Players:
Ruben Amaro
Dick Bertell
Joe Gaines
Marty Keough
Jerry May
Al Spangler
Dick Tracewski

Pitchers:
Jim Hannan
Jack Lamabe

The Dude

03-30-2007, 08:51 PM

Gamblers 25 Man Roster
RHP Don Drysdale (14.5m, 65-68)
OF Mickey Mantle (13m, 65-68)
LF/3B/1B Harmon Killebrew (12m, Franchise Player)
LHP Jim Kaat (7.75m, 61 Draft Trade with Defunct Nails)
CF Curt Flood (6.75m, 61 Draft)
RHP Larry Jackson (5.75m, 61 Draft Trade with Knights)
OF Wes Covington (3.25m, 64 E Draft Trade with Hard Cider)
RHP Gaylord Perry (2m, 62 Draft)
2B Jerry Adair (1.75m, 61 Draft Trade with Legends)
1B Moose Skowron (1.50m, 61 Draft)
RHP Al Worthington (1.25m, 61 Draft)
3B Ken Boyer (1.25m, 65-67 Trade with Hard Cider)
RHP Mel Stottlemyre (1.25m, 64 Draft)
C Buck Rodgers (1m, 61 Draft)
OF Rico Carty (1m, 63 Draft)
RHP Bob Lee (.75m, 64 Draft)
LHP Gordie Richardson (.50m, 64 Draft)
SS Rico Petrocelli (.50m, 63 Draft)
2B Cookie Rojas (.50m, 62 Draft)
OF Gates Brown (.50m, 63 Draft)
RHP Gary Wagner (.50m, 65 Draft)
RHP Bill Faul (.25m, 64-65 Trade with Hard Cider)
RHP Jim Duffalo (.25m, 65)
C Doug Camilli (.25m, 64-65)
OF Jose Cardenal (.25m, 63 Draft)

Farm Hands
RHP Mike Cuellar (4m, 61 Draft)
LHP Don Mossi (1.75m, 61 Draft Trade with Hard Cider)
RHP Moe Drabowsky (1m, 61 Draft)
3B Frank Malzone (1m, 61 Draft)
OF Bob Oliver (.50, 65 Draft)
SS Bob Lillis (.25m 64-65)
RHP Ron Herbel (.50m, 63 Draft)
1B Ed Kranepool (.25m 64-66)
3B John Kennedy (.25m, 64-66)
LHP Wade Blasingame (.25m, 64-65)
LHP Warren Spahn (.25m, 64-65)
C Paul Casanova (.50m, 65 Draft)
RHP Phil Ortega (.25m, 65-67)
SS Roy McMillan (.25m, 64-66)
LF/1B Tommy McCraw (.25m, 65-67)
Total Salary = 89.50 Million
40 Players

Lineup Vs RHP:
1.CF-Curt Flood
2.2B-Cookie Rojas
3.LF-Mickey Mantle (Gates Brown-45%)
4.3B-Harmon Killebrew (Ken Boyer-20%)
5.1B-Bill Skowron
6.RF-Wes Covington (Jose Cardenal-30%, Rico Carty-20%)
7.SS-Rico Petrocelli (Jerry Adair-30%)
8.C-Buck Rodgers (Doug Camilli-15%)
9.Pitcher
Pinch Hitter: Default

Lineup VS LHP:
1.CF-Curt Flood
2.2B-Cookie Rojas
3.LF-Mickey Mantle (Gates Brown-10%)
4.3B-Harmon Killebrew (Ken Boyer-10%)
5.1B-Bill Skowron
6.RF-Rico Carty (Jose Cardenal-5%)
7.SS-Rico Petrocelli (Jerry Adair-15)
8.C-Doug Camilli (Buck Rodgers-10%)
9.Pitcher
Pinch Hitter: Default

Pitching Rotation:
SP1: Larry Jackson
SP2: Don Drysdale
SP3: Jim Kaat
SP4: Mel Stottlemyre
SP5: Gary Wagner (SKIP)
Spot: Bill Faul
Mop: Gaylord Perry
Long: Bill Faul
RH Setup: Bob Lee, Jim Duffalo
LH Setup: Gordie Richardson, Bob Lee,
Closer: Al Worthington, Bob Lee

15 Day DL

Profile
Batting
Bunt for hit: Normal
Sac bunt: More
Squeeze: Normal
Steal: Standard (more for Flood, Cardenal)
Take extra bases: More
Take pitches: More

Pinch hitting
for pitchers: Standard
for non-pitchers: Less
for platoon partners: Standard
in blowouts: Standard

Pitching
pitch around - Normal
IBB - Standard
use relievers - standard
use closers - More

Defense
hold runners - Standard
IF in - Standard
guard lines - Standard

mac195

03-30-2007, 09:29 PM

Major League
C: Tom Haller (1.75M) '61
C: Johnny Romano (6.75M) '61
1B: Norm Cash (10M) '61
1B: Joe Adcock (250K) '65-'66 FA
2B: Joe Morgan (250K) '63
2B: Bill Mazeroski (250K) '65-'67 FA
SS: Larry Brown (500K) '63
SS: Andre Rodgers (2M) '64-'65 FA
3B: Dick Allen (1.25M) '63
OF: Frank Robinson (12M) franchise
OF: Ron Fairly (2M) '61
OF: Lenny Green (250K) '64-'65 FA
OF: Rocky Colavito (13.25M) '66 FA
OF: Roger Maris (1.00M) '65-'67 FA
SP: Jim Bunning (8.75M) '61
SP: Lee Stange (1M) '61
SP: Pete Richert (500K) '62
SP: Sammy Ellis (500K) '62
SP: Mickey Lolich (1.5M) '63
SP: Bill Stafford (2.0M) '65 FA
RP: Steve Hamilton (1.5M) '61
RP: Stu Miller (7M) '61
RP: Dick Radatz (2.5M) '62
RP: Bob Humphreys (500K) '62
RP: Masanori Murakami (500K) '64
Minors
C: Jack Hiatt (250K) '64
C: Jim Coker (250K) '64-'65 FA
C: Smokey Burgess (250K) '65-'66 FA
2B: Ron Hunt (750K) '63
OF: Roy White (500K) '65
OF: Rick Reichardt (250K) '64
OF: Fred Valentine (250K) '64-'66 FA
OF: Dave Nicholson (250K) '64-'66 FA
SP: Dennis Bennett (1M) '62
SP: Steve Hargan (250K) '65
SP: Ken Holtzman (250K) '65
SP: Dick Selma (250K) '65
SP: Luke Walker (250K) '65
RP: Ron Taylor (1M) '62
RP: Pete Cimino (250K) '65
SP: Juan Pizarro (9.75M) '64-'66 FA (bought out for $9,75M)
40 players / $93.50M

Lineup vs. RHP
1 Fairly CF (Green)
2 Morgan 2B (Mazeroski DR)
3 Allen 3B (Mazeroski)
4 Cash 1B (Fairly)
5 Robinson LF (Green)
6 Colavito RF (Maris)
7 Romano C (Haller 30%) Haller DR
8 Brown SS (Rodgers)
PH vs RHP: Maris, Green, Haller
PH vs LHP: Maris, Adcock, Rodgers
Lineup vs. LHP
1 Rodgers SS (Brown DR)
2 Morgan 2B (Mazeroski DR)
3 Allen 3B (Mazeroski)
4 Robinson LF (Green)
5 Colavito RF (Maris)
6 Cash 1B (Adcock)
7 Romano C (Haller)
8 Fairly CF (Green)
PH vs RHP: Maris, Green, Haller
PH vs LHP: Maris, Adcock, Green

Pitching
SP1: Bunning
SP2: Richert
SP3: Ellis
SP4: Lolich
SP5: Stange (skip)
Spot: Stafford
Mop up: Murakami, Stafford
Long man: Radatz, Humphreys, Murakami
LH set up: Hamilton, Miller
RH set up: Miller, Humphreys
LH closer: Hamilton, Miller
RH closer: Miller

Profile
Batting
bunt for hit: less
sac bunt: less
squeeze: less
steal: less (Fairly, Morgan - standard... Allen, Green - more)
take extra bases: standard
take pitches: standard

pinch hitting
for pitchers: standard
for non-pitchers: standard
for platoon partners: standard
in blowouts: standard

Pitching
pitch around: standard
IBB: standard
use relievers: standard (Bunning less)
use closers: more

Defense
hold runners: standard
IF in: standard
guard lines: standard

leecemark

03-30-2007, 10:09 PM

--Wil, there are a few issues with the Gamblers profile. You have Jose Cardenal and Roy McMillan scheduled for playing time, but they both farmed out. You've got Gary Wagner slotted as both 5th starter and long reliever, which won't work well. Ron Herbel has no assignments, so could replace Wagner in one of those spots.

The Dude

03-30-2007, 10:50 PM

Herbel was sent down to the minors. Cardenal was brought up. Mcmillan will stay down, I took his PT off and adjusted adairs.

Sorry, I recreated the lineups in notepad and just put them onto the message. Screwed up a bit.

mac195

03-31-2007, 12:56 AM

Hard Cider 41 (42 with Gary Cooper who doesn't exist as near as I can tell)

Don Schwall should not be on the roster. Gary Cooper, like Jimmy Stewart, is an old time movie star. The Cannons bid on Stewart, so I bid on Cooper. It was an attempt at humor.

catcher24

03-31-2007, 09:22 AM

STARTERS
C: *Billy Bryan 1.25M Contract: 1964 FA, 2 Years Exp: 1965
1B:*Willie McCovey 10M Contract:1961 Draft, 1 Year club option Exp: N/A
2B: #Jim Lefebvre 250K Contract: 1965 Rookie, Bump 1968 Exp:1970
3B: Ron Santo 12M Contract:1961 Draft, Franchise Player Exp: N/A
SS: Ron Hansen 250K Contract: 1965 FA, 3 Years Exp: 1967
LF: Felipe Alou 4M Contract: 1961 Draft, 1 Year club option Exp: N/A
CF: Jackie Brandt 750K Contract: 1964 FA, 2 Years Exp: 1965
RF: *Rusty Staub 500K Contract: 1963 Rookie, Bump 1966 Exp: 1968

BENCH
C: *Vic Roznovsky 250K Contract: 1965 FA, 1 Year Exp: 1965
C: *Mike Brumley 250K Contract: 1965 FA, 1 Year Exp: 1965
IF: Jerry Buchek 1.5M Contract: 1965 FA, 3 Years Exp: 1967
IF: Jim Davenport 2M Contract: 1965 FA, 3 Years Exp: 1967
IF: *Dick Nen 250K Contract: 1965 FA, 1 Year Exp: 1965
OF:*Bob Skinner 250K Contract: 1964 FA, 2 Years Exp: 1965
OF:

STARTING PITCHERS
Luis Tiant 1.25M Contract: 1964 Rookie, Bump 1967 Exp: 1969
*Tommy John 1M Contract: 1963 Rookie, Bump 1966 Exp: 1968
*Al Downing 1.5M Contract:1961 Draft, 1 Year club option Exp: N/A
Bill Monbouquette 2.5M Contract: 1964 FA, 2 Years Exp: 1965
Jack Fisher 1.25M Contract: 1965 FA, 3 Years Exp: 1967

BULLPEN
Ted Abernathy 1M Contract: 1961 Draft, 1 Year club option Exp: N/A
Ron Kline 1.75M Contract:1961 Draft, 1 Year club option Exp: N/A
Bob Locker 250K Contract: 1965 Rookie Draft, Bump 1968 Exp: 1970
*Rob Gardner 250K Contract: 1965 Rookie Draft, Bump 1968 Exp: 1970
Dan Osinski 500K Contract:1962 Rookie, Bump 1965 Exp: 1967
Rollie Sheldon 250K Contract: 1965 FA, 1 Year Exp: 1965

MINOR LEAGUES
C: Bill Freehan 4.25M Contract: 1961 Rookie, 1 Year club option Exp: N/A
C: Andy Etchebarren 4.25M Contract: 1965 Rookie, Bump 1968 Exp: 1970
1B:
2B:
3B:
SS: Gene Alley 250K Contract: 1963 Rookie, Bump 1966 Exp: 1968
OF: *Jim Northrup 1M Contract: 1964 Rookie, Bump 1967 Exp: 1969
OF: *Matty Alou 13.5M Contract: 1965 FA, 5 Years Exp: 1969
OF: *Art Shamsky 250K Contract: 1965 Rookie, Bump 1968 Exp: 1970
OF: *Ted Uhlaender 250K Contract: 1965 Rookie, Bump 1968 Exp: 1970
OF: Ollie Brown 250K Contract: 1965 Rookie, Bump 1968 Exp: 1970
SP: Bill Hands 1M Contract: 1965 Rookie, Bump 1968 Exp: 1970
SP: Fergie Jenkins 1M Contract: 1965 Rookie, Bump 1968 Exp: 1970
RP: Phil Regan 1.5M Contract:1961 Draft, 1 Year club option Exp: N/A
P: Blue Moon Odom 250K Contract: 1964 Rookie, Bump 1967 Exp: 1969
P: *Grant Jackson 250K Contract: 1965 Rookie, Bump 1968 Exp: 1970
P: Joe Moeller 250K Contract: 1964 FA, 3 Years Exp: 1966
P: *Chris Zachary 250K Contract: 1965 FA, 2 Years Exp: 1966

TOTAL SALARY = $74.25 Million for 40 players

DRAFT PICKS TRADED AWAY:
1966 - My 2nd round pick goes to the Redbirds.
1966 - (My 3rd round pick goes to the Hard Cider) NOTE: Returned to me in another trade.
1967 - (My 2nd round goes to Cannons) NOTE: Returned to me in another trade.

DRAFT PICKS OBTAINED VIA TRADES:

1966: Cannons (Chris) 1st round pick.
(Hard Cider (Mac) 1st round pick) NOTE: Sent to Redbirds in a trade.
Diablos (ElHalo) 1st round pick.
Pirates (Edgartohof) 1st round pick.
Gamblers (Dudecar) 2nd round pick.
1967: Dude's Gamblers 1st round pick
Cannon's 1st round pick
Mac's 1st round pick
Stingers 1st round pick.
Mac's 3rd round pick.
1968: Redbirds 1st round pick.

LINEUPS AND STRATEGIES FOR 1964

Lineup vs RHP
2B:#Lefebvre (Buchek 5%)
RF:*Staub (*Skinner 10%; DR Brandt)
3B: Santo (Davenport)
1B:*McCovey (*Nen)
LF: F. Alou (*Skinner 10%)
C: Bryan (*Roznovsky 20%, *Brumley 15%)
CF: Brandt (Alou 25%)
SS: Hansen (Buchek 5%)
Pitcher
PH vs LHP: Santo, F. Alou, Davenport, Buchek
PH vs RHP: Skinner, Nen, Roznovsky, Brumley

Lineup vs LHP
2b:#Lefebvre (Buchek 15%)
RF:*Staub (Brandt)
3B: Santo (Davenport)
1B:*McCovey (*Nen; DR: Nen)
LF: F. Alou (Skinner)
CF: Brandt (F. Alou)
SS: Hansen (Buchek 15%)
C:*Brumley (*Roznovsky 30%, *Brumley 15%)
Pitcher
PH vs LHP: Santo, F. Alou, Davenport, Buchek
PH vs RHP: Skinner, Nen, Roznovsky, Brumley

Pitching Assignments
5 Man Rotation (Skip)
SP1 *Tommy John
SP2 Luis Tiant
SP3 *Al Downing
SP4 Bill Monbouquette
SP5 Jack Fisher
Spot Starter: Rollie Sheldon
Mopup Relief: Sheldon, Ron Kline
Longman: Bob Locker, Kline, Dan Osinski, Sheldon
LH Setup: None
RH Setup: None
Closer: Ted Abernathy

Managerial Profile
Hitting
Bunt for hit: Less Frequent
Sac Bunt: Normal
Squeeze: Normal
Steal: Standard
Take Extra Bases: Standard
Take Pitches: Standard
Pinch hit for pitchers: Standard
Pinch hit for non-pitchers: Less
Pinch hit for Platoon Partner: Standard
Pinch hit in blowouts: Most

Pitching
Pitch Around: Standard
IBB: Less
Use Relievers: Standard
Use Closers: More

Defense
Hold Runners: Standard
IF In: Standard
Guard Lines: Less Frequent

catcher24

03-31-2007, 09:38 AM

jkc32

03-31-2007, 11:11 AM

Shoeless will sign the following free agents to complete our roster:

Hal Reniff - .25M (2 years)
Woody Woodward - .25M (2 years)

leecemark

03-31-2007, 11:37 AM

Shoeless will sign the following free agents to complete our roster:

Hal Reniff - .25M (2 years)
Woody Woodward - .25M (2 years)

--Joe, the Cannons signed Reniff after the last file I sent you.

jkc32

03-31-2007, 11:41 AM

I'll take Bobby Tiefenauer - .25M (1 year) inplace of Reniff.

Please send a new league file once my 2 newbies have been added.

leecemark

03-31-2007, 11:43 AM

Mark - I noticed you have Boswell listed as your spot starter, but he's also listed as being in the minor leagues,:think: so you may want to check that and change your spot starter. Also, which rotation style are you using? I'm entering the lineups into my version to run some sims.:baseball:

Lew, when I run sims I keep an extra pitcher (26th player) on each roster listed only as spot starter to cover injuries. If I have an injury during the season Boswell is the first call up, so that is why I have him listed that way. For those checking in regularly, they can list a spot starter not on their roster since there will always be an opportunity for call up before the next start of an injured pitcher. I'll be using skip. During the actual season I'll probably be using 6-7 (8?) starters due to the limited IP of my original guys (only Law - barely- and Bruce - how isn't very good - have 200 innings to offer).

jkc32

03-31-2007, 02:24 PM

Shoeless is offering up Clete Boyer (5.25M, signed through 1967). He's a defensive whiz at 3B and slightly better than average at the plate. Looking for a decent offensive player at SS, C, or OF...would also consider a solid SP or RP.

leecemark

04-02-2007, 06:58 AM

--Just a few days to Opening Day. 40 man rosters and managerial profiles are due by midnight EST on the 5th. If you can get it in a little earlier, I'd appreciate it. Opening Day is the 6th and I'd like to do as little data entry as possible before getting down to playing some baseball. I've got all but three teams at 40 now. The Gold Sox (39), Diablos (41) and Pirates (34) need to review the attached rosters and let me know if I have an error or what moves they are making. Up to date free agent lists are also attached. Those at (or above 40) may not sign new players now, but you can exceed 40 after the opening series if you have the need, interest and cap space.

J W

04-02-2007, 12:34 PM

Oddly enough, the defending champion Skipjacks have the youngest team in the league this year, with an average age of 25.8... maybe losing out on free agency this offseason has something to do with that?

At a cool 30.0, the Gold Sox are the oldest team in the league, followed by the Pirates at 29.2 average age. This makes sense I think because the veteran players from the expansion draft haven't cycled through those teams yet.

The Dude

04-02-2007, 12:45 PM

Gamblers age jumped up due to free agency. Drysdale, Mantle, and Boyer. Plus, most of my really old guys are in the minors.

Erik Bedard

04-02-2007, 02:54 PM

My average age is skewed by Blass and Sanders being listed as 65 and Piniella as 63.

Mark, I'm sure you're missing someone. Just can't figure out who it is.

EDIT: Apparently, you aren't missing anyone. I'll sign John Stephenson. Next year, I'll finally have an everyday catcher.

catcher24

04-02-2007, 04:45 PM

Jason - Interesting about team average age. Your Skipjacks are at 25.8; The Redbirds are at 26; and I'm at 26.4. So maybe there's hope yet for Scott and I.:rolleyes:

Edgartohof

04-02-2007, 10:50 PM

Starters
C: Earl Battey (RH) - 8.75M thru 1965
1B: Don Mincher (LH) - 1.75M, 61 draft
2B: Frank Bolling (RH) - 1.5M, 61 draft
3B: Ed Charles (RH) - 1.5M, 62 draft
SS: Wayne Causey (LH) - 1.25M, 61 draft
LF: Don Demeter (RH) - 750K, 61 draft
CF: Vada Pinson (LH) - 10M, 61 draft
RF: Jim King (LH) - 2.25M, 61 draft

Bench:
C: Jim Coker (RH) - ???M, ???draft
1B: Joe Adcock (RH) - .25M, 65 FA draft
2B: Tony Taylor (RH) - 750K, 61 draft
3B: Don Zimmer (RH) - 1.5M, 61 draft
SS: Dick Schofield (SH) - 1M, 61 draft
CF: Willie Davis (LH) - 1.5 Mil - '65 PFA draft
LF: Jerry Lynch (LH) - 2.25M thru 65

Rotation
SP1: Juan Marichal (RH) - 11M, 61 draft
SP2: Chris Short (LH) - 10.25M, 61 draft
SP3: Robin Roberts (RH) - 10M - '65 PFA draft
SP4: Marcelino Lopez (LH) - ???M - '64 draft
SP5: Ray Culp (RH) - ???M - '64 draft

Bullpen
CL: Hoyt Wilhelm (RH) - 11M, 61 draft
RHSU: Don Schwall (RH) - 4M thru 65 [Frank Lary - (RH)]
LHSU: Ted Davidson (LH) - 250K, 65 draft - [Joe Nuxhall - (LH)]
Longman: Pete Mikkelsen (RHP) RP- 500K, 64 draft - [Joe Nuxhall - (LH)]
Mopup: Frank Lary (RH) - 1.5M, 61 draft
Spot Starter: Joe Nuxhall (LH) - 500K - '61 draft

Minors:
C: Gus Triandos (RH) - 1.25M, 61 draft
OF: Cleon Jones (RH) - 250K, 63 draft
CF: Russ Synder (LH) - 1M, 61 draft
RF: Mike Shannon (RH) - 250K thru 65
SP: Larry Jaster (LH) - 250K, 65 draft
Mopup: Al Jackson (LH) - 750K, 61 draft
SP: Dave Wickersham (RH) - 750K, 61 draft
RP: Julio Navarro (RH) - ????M, '??draft
RP - Bob Buhl (RH) - ????M, '64 draft

Total Players - 29
Total Salary - 88.25M

Picks Traded Away:
1st round 66 draft - Legends
1st round 67 draft - Baseball PAP

Players Traded Away

Lineup Vs. RHP
1. Vada Pinson - CF (LH)
2. Frank Bolling- 2B (RH) - [Tony Taylor (RH) - 10%]
3. Don Demeter - LF (RH) - [Jerry Lynch (LH) - 20%]
4. Don Mincher - 1B (LH)
5. Earl Battey - C (RH) - [Jim Coker (RH) - 10%]
6. Jim King - RF (LH) - [Jerry Lynch (LH) - 20%]
7. Ed Charles 3B - (RH) - [Don Zimmer (RH) - 10%]
8. Wayne Causey - SS (LH) - [Dick Schofield (RH) - 5%]

Lineup Vs. LHP
1. Vada Pinson - CF (LH)
2. Frank Bolling- 2B (RH) - [Tony Taylor (RH) - 10%]
3. Don Demeter - LF - (RH)
4. Joe Adcock - 1B (RH) - [Don Mincher (RH) - 10%]
5.Jim King - RF (LH)
6. Earl Battey - C (RH) - [Jim Coker (RH) - 10%]
7. Ed Charles - 3B (RH)
8. Wayne Causey - SS (LH) - [Dick Schofield (RH) - 5%]

Profile
Batting
Bunt for hit: least
Sac bunt: Least
Squeeze: Least
Steal: Least
Take extra bases: More
Take pitches: More
Pinch hitting
for pitchers: Less
for non-pitchers: Less
for platoon partners: More
in blowouts: Standard
Pitching
pitch around - Standard
IBB - Standard
use relievers - More
use closers - More
Defense
hold runners - Standard
IF in - Standard
guard lines - Standard

Edgartohof

04-03-2007, 01:23 PM

The Pirates and the Hard Cider have come to an agreement on a trade.

The Pirates are sending SP Larry Jaster and OF Russ Snyder to the Cider's in exchange for 1B Joe Adcock and backup C Jim Coker.

The Pirates Front Office had this to say:

"We feel that this is a very reasonable trade. Both sides feel happy with what they have gotten in return. We have filled up a couple of holes and don't feel that we have lost too much in the process. If there is one thing we have is pitching - and lots of it, but coming down to the wire we found ourselves lacking in a couple of other positions, so we decided to fill them up with this move. The team is happy to be reunited with Adcock, who was a big part of our team last year, and while his role may be more limited this season, we feel that he can still contribute. The addition of Coker was a necessary one, as we were hurting most in that area. With Battey starting, and looking as good as he is, we are happy, but we realize that we cannot have him out there catching every game."

Erik Bedard

04-03-2007, 02:07 PM

Gold Sox MP for 1965:

Lineup:

2B Harper (Groat 25%)
SS Versalles (Groat)
CF Callison (Harper 5%)
RF Wagner (Kuenn 10%, Harper 10%, Conigliaro 5%)
LF Conigliaro (Kuenn 10%, Harper 5%, Wagner 5%)
1B Johnson (Bond 15%)
3B Robinson (Johnson 10%)
C Dalrymple (Orsino 35%, Stephenson 10%)
Pitcher

Rotation:

Koufax
Ford
Cloninger
Buzhardt
Lonborg

Bullpen:

Spot Starter: Pizarro
Long man: Daniels
Mopup: Ridzik
Setup 1: Baldschun
Setup 2: Pizarro
Closer 1: Sisk
Closer 2: Owens

Profile:

Batting

Bunt for hit: Least (Harper: Standard)
Sac bunt: Standard
Squeeze: Less
Steal: Less (Harper: Most)
Take extra bases: Standard
Take pitches: More

Pinch hitting

for pitchers: More
for non-pitchers: Least
for platoon partners: Standard
in blowouts: Most

Pitching

pitch around - More
IBB - Standard
use relievers - Standard
use closers - Standard

Defense

hold runners - Standard
IF in - Standard
guard lines - Standard

538280

04-03-2007, 04:19 PM

Cannons Major League 25-Man Roster

Starting Lineup
C-Jim Pagliaroni (5)
1B-Fred Whitfield (1) (drafted 1962, leaves after 1967)
2B-Don Buford (.5) (drafted 1963, leaves after 1968)
3B-Dalton Jones (.25) (drafted 1964, leaves after 1969)
SS-Bert Campaneris (.75) (drafted 1964, leaves after 1969)
LF-Tom Tresh (1.75)
CF-Jimmy Wynn (.75) (drafted 1963, leaves after 1968)
RF-Hank Aaron (12)

Bench
C-Charlie Lau (2.75) (contract expires after 1965)
1B-Ken Harrelson (.5) (drafted 1963, leaves after 1968)
IF-Al Weis (2.75) (contract expires after 1965)
OF/3B-Jim Hickman (3) (contract expires after 1965)
OF-Jose Tartabull (2.25) (contract expires after 1966)

Rotation
SP1-Steve Barber (1.75)
SP3-Mudcat Grant (1.75)
SP4-Jim Perry (5.5)
SP4-Dick Ellsworth (3.75)

Bullpen
CL-Ron Perranoski (7)
RH Setup-Don McMahon (10.25) (contract expires after 1969)
LH Setup-Frank Carpin (.25) (contract expires after 1965)
Longman-Ray Washburn (1.25)
Mopup-Aubrey Gatewood (.5) (drafted 1963, leaves after 1968)
SpotSP-Dave Morehead (.25) (contract expires after 1966)

Minor League Roster
C-Duke Sims (.25) (drafted 1964, leaves after 1969)
C-John Bateman (.5) (drafted 1963, leaves after 1968)
1B-Brant Alyea (.25) (drafted 1965, leaves after 1970)
2B-Bernie Allen (.25) (contract expires after 1966)
3B-Jimmy Stewart (1) (contract expires after 1965)
SS-Denis Menke (.75) (drafted 1962, leaves after 1967)
SS-Eddie Bressoud (.25) (contract expires after 1966)
OF-Al Ferrara (.25) (drafed 1963, leaves after 1968)
OF-Willie Crawford (.25) (drafted 1964, leaves after 1969)
OF-Ty Cline (5.25) (contract expires after 1965)
OF-Ken Henderson (.25) (drafted 1965, leaves after 1970)

SP-Ray Sadecki (9.25) (contract expires after 1968)
SP-Orlando Pena (.75)
SP-Jim Ray (.25) (drafted 1965, leaves after 1970)
RP-Hal Reniff (.25) (contract expires after 1966)
RP-Bill Kelso (.25) (drafted 1964, leaves after 1969)
RP-Wes Stock (1.25)

Managerial Profile
Lineup vs. RHP
1. Buford, 2B (Weis)
2. Wynn, CF (Tartabull)
3. Aaron, RF (Tartabull)
4. Tresh, LF (Hickman)
5. Whitfield, 1B (Harrelson 15%)
6. Pagliaroni, C (Lau 15%)
7. Campaneris, SS (Weis)
8. Jones, 3B (Hickman 15%)
PH: Harrelson, Lau, Hickman

Lineup vs. LHP
1. Buford, 2B (Weis 20%)
2. Wynn, CF (Tartabull 8%)
3. Aaron, RF (Tartabull)
4. Tresh, LF (Tartabull 5%)
5. Hickman, 3B (Jones)
6. Harrelson, 1B (Whitfield)
7. Pagliaroni, C (Lau 15%)
8. Campaneris, SS (Weis)
PH: Tartabull, Weis, Jones

Pitching
SP1 Barber
SP2 Grant
SP3 Perry
SP4 Ellsworth
SP5 Morehead (skip)
Spot starter: Washburn, Morehead
Mop up: Morehead, Gatewood
Long man: Washburn, Gatewood
LH set up: Carpin, McMahon
RH set up: McMahon, Gatewood
LH closer: Perranoski, McMahon
RH closer: Perranoski, McMahon

Profile
Batting
Bunt for hit: Least
Sac bunt: Less (Aaron-never)
Squeeze: Less
Steal: Standard (Aaron, Wynn, Campaneris-more)
Take extra bases: Standard
Take pitches: Standard
Pinch hitting
for pitchers: Standard
for non-pitchers: Standard
for platoon partners: More
in blowouts: More
Pitching
pitch around - Standard
IBB - Standard
use relievers - Standard
use closers - Standard

Defense
hold runners - Standard
IF in - Standard
guard lines - Standard

mac195

04-03-2007, 07:39 PM

The Pirates are sending SP Larry Jaster and OF Russ Snyder to the Cider's in exchange for 1B Joe Adcock and backup C Jim Coker.
HC confirm this trade.

mac195

04-03-2007, 07:58 PM

Roster and profile changes in bold:

Major League
C: Tom Haller (1.75M) '61
C: Johnny Romano (6.75M) '61
1B: Norm Cash (10M) '61
1B: Joe Adcock (250K) '65-'66 FA traded to Pirates
2B: Joe Morgan (250K) '63
2B: Bill Mazeroski (250K) '65-'67 FA
SS: Larry Brown (500K) '63
SS: Andre Rodgers (2M) '64-'65 FA
3B: Dick Allen (1.25M) '63
OF: Frank Robinson (12M) franchise
OF: Ron Fairly (2M) '61
OF: Lenny Green (250K) '64-'65 FA
OF: Rocky Colavito (13.25M) '66 FA
OF: Roger Maris (1.00M) '65-'67 FA
SP: Jim Bunning (8.75M) '61
SP: Lee Stange (1M) '61
SP: Pete Richert (500K) '62
SP: Sammy Ellis (500K) '62
SP: Mickey Lolich (1.5M) '63
SP: Bill Stafford (2.0M) '65 FA
SP: Larry Jaster (250K) '65 (from Pirates)
RP: Steve Hamilton (1.5M) '61
RP: Stu Miller (7M) '61
RP: Dick Radatz (2.5M) '62
RP: Bob Humphreys (500K) '62
RP: Masanori Murakami (500K) '64
Minors
C: Jack Hiatt (250K) '64
C: Jim Coker (250K) '64-'65 FA traded to Pirates
C: Smokey Burgess (250K) '65-'66 FA
2B: Ron Hunt (750K) '63
OF: Roy White (500K) '65
OF: Rick Reichardt (250K) '64
OF: Fred Valentine (250K) '64-'66 FA
OF: Dave Nicholson (250K) '64-'66 FA
CF: Russ Synder (1M), '61 from Pirates
SP: Dennis Bennett (1M) '62
SP: Steve Hargan (250K) '65
SP: Ken Holtzman (250K) '65
SP: Dick Selma (250K) '65
SP: Luke Walker (250K) '65
RP: Ron Taylor (1M) '62
RP: Pete Cimino (250K) '65
SP: Juan Pizarro (9.75M) '64-'66 FA (bought out for $9,75M)
40 players / $94.25M

Lineup vs. RHP
1 Fairly CF (Green)
2 Morgan 2B (Mazeroski DR)
3 Allen 3B (Mazeroski)
4 Cash 1B (Fairly)
5 Robinson LF (Green)
6 Colavito RF (Maris)
7 Romano C (Haller 30%) Haller DR
8 Brown SS (Rodgers)
PH vs RHP: Maris, Green, Haller
PH vs LHP: Maris, Rodgers
Lineup vs. LHP
1 Rodgers SS (Brown DR)
2 Morgan 2B (Mazeroski)
3 Allen 3B (Mazerowski)
4 Robinson LF (Green)
5 Colavito RF (Maris)
6 Cash 1B (Fairly)
7 Romano C (Haller)
8 Fairly CF (Green)
PH vs RHP: Maris, Green, Haller
PH vs LHP: Maris, Green

Pitching
SP1: Bunning
SP2: Richert
SP3: Ellis
SP4: Lolich
SP5: Stange (skip)
Spot: Stafford
Mop up: Murakami, Stafford
Long man: Radatz, Humphreys, Murakami
LH set up: Hamilton, Jaster
RH set up: Miller, Humphreys
LH closer: Hamilton, Miller
RH closer: Miller

Profile
Batting
bunt for hit: less
sac bunt: less
squeeze: less
steal: less (Fairly, Morgan - standard... Allen, Green - more)
take extra bases: standard
take pitches: standard

pinch hitting
for pitchers: standard
for non-pitchers: standard
for platoon partners: standard
in blowouts: standard

Pitching
pitch around: standard
IBB: standard
use relievers: more (Bunning less)
use closers: more

Defense
hold runners: standard
IF in: standard
guard lines: standard

ElHalo

04-03-2007, 08:48 PM

I've dropped Doug Clemens to get to 40 men.

Just for information's sake, that leaves me at $95.25 mill in salary.

leecemark

04-03-2007, 08:54 PM

--All but 1 team is now at 40. The Pirates have 5 open spots on their roster, which need to be filled by the 5th or a 1.25M cap penalty will be imposed to pay for the vacant roster spots.

ElHalo

04-03-2007, 09:09 PM

Starting Lineup
C- Johnny Roseboro ($9)
1B- Bill White ($6.5 through 1966)
2B- Pete Rose ($1.5)
3B- Jim Ray Hart ($1.25)
SS- Luis Aparicio ($8.25 through 1969)
LF- Willie Stargell ($2)
CF- Al Kaline ($10)
RF-Roberto Clemente ($12)
Bench
C- J.C. Martin ($0.75)
IF- Ray Barker ($1.75 through 1965)
IF- Bob Klaus ($0.5)
OF- Ken McMullen ($0.5)
OF- Lou Johnson ($4.75 through 1967)
Utl/PH- Eddie Kasko ($0.24 through 1965)
Utl/PH- Jeff Torborg ($0.5 through 1965)
Rotation
SP1- Milt Pappas ($13) (three year deal through 1965)
SP2- Don Cardwell ($1.75)
SP3- Tracy Stallard ($4.75 through 1965)
SP4- Fred Newman ($0.5)
SP5- George Brunet ($0.25)
Bullpen
CL- Eddie Fisher ($1.5)
RH Setup- Fred Gladding ($1)
LH Setup- Jim Brewer ($1.25)
Longman- Bill Pleis ($0.25)
SpotSP- Jim Merritt ($0.75)

Farm hands

C- Russ Nixon ($0.5 through 1965)
C-
2B-
2B- Pedro Gonzalez ($0.25 through 1965)
3B- Bobby Wine ($0.25 through 1965)
SS- Tony Kubek ($0.25 through 1965)
LF-
CF- Greg Goossen ($0.25)
RF- Jim Gosger ($0.25 through 1967)
SP- Wilbur Wood ($2)
SP- Bill Singer ($0.25)
RP- Stan Williams ($1.5)
RP- Joe Hoerner ($0.25)
P - Hank Fischer ($1.5)
P - Joe Coleman ($0.25)
P - Chuck Hartenstein ($0.25)
P - Earl Wilson ($1.75)
P - Frank Bertaina ($0.25)
P -

Managerial Profile
Lineup vs Both

2B: Pete Rose (Klaus 5%)
3B: Hart (McMullen 5%)
RF: Clemente (Johnson 10%)
LF: Stargell (McMullen 10%)
CF: Kaline (Johnson 20%, McMullen 5%)
1B: White (Barker 15%, Martin 10%)
C: Roseboro (Martin 25%, Torborg, 10%)
SS: Aparicio (Kasko 20%)

Pinch hitting: McMullen, Martin, Barker, Johnson, Torborg, Kasko, Klaus

Pitching
SP1 Pappas
SP2 Cardwell
SP3 Newman
SP4 Brunet
SP5 Stallard

Spot starter: Merritt, Pleis
Mop up: Fisher, Gladding
Long man: Merritt, Fisher
LH set up: Brewer, Pleis
RH set up: Gladding, Fisher
LH closer: Fisher, Brewer
RH closer: Fisher, Gladding

ProfileBunt for hit: Least
Batting
Sac bunt: Least
Squeeze: Least
Steal: Least (except Aparicio = more)
Take extra bases: Standard
Take pitches: Standard
Pinch hitting
for pitchers: Less
for non-pitchers: Standard
for platoon partners: Standard
in blowouts: More
Pitching
pitch around - less
IBB - less
use relievers - less
use closers - most

Defense
hold runners - Standard
IF in - Standard
guard lines - Standard

Edgartohof

04-04-2007, 10:29 AM

My offense this season leaves MUCH to be desired, especially my infield. My catcher is okay and Mincher at 1B posts a 130+ OPS+. But it's my pitching and the 131 ERA+ they have combined that will be my only possible chance to have a decent season.

I feel I can say that I have the best starting rotation out there, and my Bullpen is probably top 3 at worst (but then again, my offense is probably bottom 5...so it pretty much evens out).

J W

04-05-2007, 12:30 PM

25 Man Roster
CF Carl Yazstremski (12.0)*
1B Joe Torre (10.0)
LF Bob Allison (8.0)
SS Jim Fregosi (5.75)
RF Tony Oliva (2.0) #62
C Johnny Edwards (1.5)
3B Pete Ward (1.0) #62
2B Glenn Beckert (.25) #65
- - -
IF Boog Powell (4.5)
OF Mack Jones (.5) T
OF Len Gabrielson (.25) $64-65
OF Floyd Robinson (.25) $65-66
IF Phil Gagliano (.25) $64-66 ^
---------------
RHP Bob Friend (7.0) T
RHP Dean Chance (5.75)
RHP Joe Horlen (4.5)
LHP Sam McDowell (2.25)
LHP Dave McNally (1.5) T
RHP Joe Sparma (.5) #64
- - -
RHP Bob Miller (1.75)
LHP Hal Woodeshick (1.5)
RHP Claude Raymond (1.25)
LHP Bo Belinsky (.25) $65
RHP Frank Linzy (.25) #63 ^
RHP Jim Dickson (.25) $65
----------------------------------------
Running Salary (25 players) = 71.25 million

Farm Team
RHP Jim Bouton (2.0) #62 v
OF Don Lock (2.0) #62 v
OF Gary Geiger (1.5)
2B Davey Johnson (.75) #65
RHP Ed Roebuck (.75) v
OF Chico Salmon (.5) #64 v
UT Chuck Hiller (.25) $64-66
RHP Howie Koplitz (.25) $65
LHP Paul Lindblad (.25) #65
C Orlando McFarlane (.25) $64-66
SS Ray Oyler (.25) $65
IF Paul Schaal (.25) #64
C John Sullivan (.25) $64-65
OF Bobby Tolan (.25) #65
2B Jake Wood (.25) $64-65

Retired

Free Agents
LHP Whitey Ford (--) PFA
RHP Don McMahon (--) $62-64
2B Bill Mazeroski (--) $62-64
2B Ron Campbell (--) $64
UT Joe Koppe (--) $64

Traded/Released
RHP Lindy McDaniel (--) LMK
IF Donn Clendenon (--) SHJ
2B Felix Mantilla (--) SHJ
OF Willie Horton (--) LMK
OF Johnny Lewis (--) SHJ
C Jim French (.25)
RHP Buster Narum (.25)

--------------------------------------
Total Salary (40 players) = 81.50 milliion

Lineup vs. RHP
1) CF - Yastrzemski* (Jones* )
2) SS - Fregosi (Gagliano)
3) RF - Oliva* (Jones* )
4) 1B - Torre (Powell* 10%)
5) C - Edwards* (Torre 5%)
6) LF - Allison (Jones* 20%)
7) 3B - Ward* (Gagliano 5%)
8) 2B - Beckert (Gagliano 5%)

PH vR - Jones*, Gabrielson*, Robinson*
PH vL - Gagliano, Powell*

Lineup vs. LHP
1) LF - Allison (Jones* 20%)
2) CF - Yastrzemski* (Jones* 20%)
3) C - Torre (Edwards* 10%-DR)
4) 1B - Powell* (Torre 5%-DR)
5) 3B - Gagliano (Ward* 10%)
6) RF - Oliva* (Jones* 20%)
7) SS - Fregosi (Gagliano)
8) 2B - Beckert (Gagliano)

PH vR - Robinson*, Gabrielson*
PH vL - comp control

Pitching - skip
SP1 - McDowell*
SP2 - Horlen
SP3 - McNally*
SP4 - Friend
SP5 - Chance

Spot starter: Sparma, Miller
Mop up: Sparma, Dickson, Belinsky
Long man: Miller, Sparma, Belinsky
LH set up: Woodeshick, Belinsky
RH set up: Raymond, Miller
LH closer: Woodeshick, Linzy
RH closer: Linzy, Raymond

Profile - standard unless shown

Stealing Bases (SB% rating) - EX=more, VG=average, AV-PR=less
Extra Base (run rating) - EX-VG=more, AV-FR=average, PR=less
*Sac Bunt (w/rating) - EX-AV=average, FR-PR=less
Bunt FH (w/rating) - EX-AV=average, FR-PR=less
Use Relievers (SP rating) - PR-FR=more, AV-VG=average, EX=less

(* excludes pitchers, set those at average)

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Wasp

04-05-2007, 08:07 PM

Lineup:

CF Lou Brock
LF Chuck Hinton (Albie Pearson 10%)
3B Eddie Mathews
1B Gordy Coleman (Norm Sieburn 40%)
SS Charley Smith (Ken Hamlin 10%)
RF Bill Virdon (Manny Mota 10%)
2B Jerry Lumpe
C Bob Tillman (Elston Howard 40%)

Pitchers:

Rotation:

Bob Shaw
Claude Osteen
Cal Koonce
Turk Farrel
Curt Simmons (skip)

Bullpen:

Spot Starter: John O'Donoghue
Long man: Bob Sadowski
Mopup: Denny Lemaster
RHSU: Phil Niekro
LHSU: Pedro Ramos
CL: Johnny Klippstein, Don Dennis

Profile:

Batting

Bunt for hit: Least
Sac bunt: Less
Squeeze: Less
Steal: Less (Brock: Standard)
Take extra bases: Standard
Take pitches: More

Pinch hitting

for pitchers: Standard
for non-pitchers: Least
for platoon partners: Standard
in blowouts: More

Pitching

pitch around - More
IBB - Standard
use relievers - Standard
use closers - Standard

Defense

hold runners - Standard
IF in - Standard
guard lines - Standard

Edgartohof

04-05-2007, 08:41 PM

Starters
C: Earl Battey: B+ (120 OPS+ from a catcher - top 10 in MVP in real life)
1B: Don Mincher: B+ (136 OPS+, great for platooning)
2B: Frank Bolling: C (84 OPS+ from a former GG winner)
3B: Ed Charles: B (105 OPS+ and should be good defensively)
SS: Wayne Causey: B (96 OPS+ and decent at SS)
LF: Don Demeter: B+ (121 OPS+, is just a little short on AB's)
CF: Vada Pinson: A (127 OPS+, last real good year, let's hope he makes the most of it)
RF: Jim King: C+ (118 OPS+, really is only a platoon hitter - decent power though)

Bench:
C: Jim Coker: C (93 OPS+, but VERY limited AB's)
1B: Joe Adcock: C (105 OPS+; still good enough to platoon at 1B)
2B: Tony Taylor: D (77 OPS+ AND he can't field....why am I keeping him?)
3B: Don Zimmer: D ("I'd rather not say" OPS+, only here for emergencies)
SS: Dick Schofield: F (again, only for emergencies: his only value is based on his defense)
CF: Willie Davis: C (can eat some AB's as a platoon partner when needed)
LF: Jerry Lynch: C+ (107 OPS+, but in only limited AB's)

Rotation
SP1: Juan Marichal: A+ (169 ERA+, 2nd best pitcher in league)
SP2: Chris Short: A- (123 ERA+ and 300 innings)
SP3: Robin Roberts: B+ (123 ERA+ in 200 innings)
SP4: Marcelino Lopez: B (116 ERA+ in 200+ innings)
SP5: Ray Culp: B (108 ERA+ in 200 innings)

(I'm fairly confident in saying I've got the best staff...correct me if I'm wrong though :) )

Bullpen
CL: Hoyt Wilhelm: A+ (176 ERA+, 0.833 WHIP, all in 144 IP!!!!!)
RHSU: Don Schwall B (120 ERA+, unfortunately, his WHIP is a bit high)
LHSU: Ted Davidson: B+ (168 ERA+, and a WHIP just over 1,
Longman: Pete Mikkelsen: B- (103 ERA+, also allows a few too many baserunners)
Mopup: Frank Lary: B (103 ERA+ in 80+ IP)
Spot Starter: Joe Nuxhall B+ (109 ERA+, 1.164 WHIP)

As far as hitting goes, my starters have a collective OPS+ of around 115, which isn't too bad, but there are a few holes in there that worry me. I also am short on AB's in a couple spots and my backups aren't looking too great.

Pitching....now that's another story altogether. I've got the best starting rotation, and possibly the best Bullpen (at least top 3). That means I have the best pitching. Overall, their real numbers give them a 131 ERA+, which is VERY good.

So my pitching should help to keep me in it, but I'm going to need some luck and some of my hitters to overperform (or at least not have anyone do any worse that normal), and no injuries. Due to my uncertain hitting, I don't think I can take my division, but the Wild Card is a definite possibility.