Good Blood

[janduscframe]

This major leaguer was average. He is most remembered for one incident in his career. His son is a pro athlete in another sport. His grandson is a pro in still another sport. In fact, the grandson has an MVP award.. Name him..

[Allonsanfan]

My guess is Jim Delsing.
His son is PGA golfer Jay Delsing.
His grandson is Major Legue Soccer MVP Taylor Twellman.

[janduscframe]

Yup . Wonder how many families can boast three different sports in three different generations. Soccer is a sport, isn't it?

[Old Sweater]

Yup . Wonder how many families can boast three different sports in three different generations. Soccer is a sport, isn't it?

Yes it is.

Golf isn't tho.

[milladrive]

Yes it is.

Golf isn't tho.

Don't even think of starting that semantic nonsense again, OS. :rolleyes:

[Old Sweater]

Don't even think of starting that semantic nonsense again, OS. :rolleyes:


Didn't start the other one.

Pool isn't a sport either.

[milladrive]

Pool isn't a sport either.

Merriam-Webster disagrees with you.

[Old Sweater]

Merriam-Webster disagrees with you.

Didn't know he shot pool. Is he any good?

Don't know the man but the next time you see him, tell him that he is wrong.

[milladrive]

Didn't know he shot pool. Is he any good?

Don't know the man but the next time you see him, tell him that he is wrong.

Heh, wise guy.

Merriam was one person. Webster was another. It's the most authoritative dictionary in the English-speaking world, so I'd tend to believe them before I went with your definition.

But, as long as this thread has served its purpose, I'm curious... What is your definition of "sport" as opposed to "game." I know for a fact they're synonymous, but I'd like to know where you stand.

[Old Sweater]

Heh, wise guy.

Merriam was one person. Webster was another. It's the most authoritative dictionary in the English-speaking world, so I'd tend to believe them before I went with your definition.

But, as long as this thread has served its purpose, I'm curious... What is your definition of "sport" as opposed to "game." I know for a fact they're synonymous, but I'd like to know where you stand.

Oh I consider anything that a conditioned athlete plays to be a sport like baseball, football, basketball and forgeign sports like soccer and rugby.

Games like golf, trap shooting, stock car racing, pool, poker, etc. I consider skilled games or events like many others. Casper was a good golfer in his day and Daly had his moments and look at their physical condition and I remember seeing AJ Foyd in those thrash sport events that use to be on TV in the 70's, think he got lapped in the bicycle event, give him a steering wheel and some horse power though and the real athletes would have been lapped.

This debate has been going on for ever, I guess it's what you consider a sport is a sport to you. I watch a lot of tournament foosball and on the foosball boards there is probably about 10 threads of the debate. Now you tell me, you think foosball is a sport? darts? No Way!

[milladrive]

Oh I consider anything that a conditioned athlete plays to be a sport like baseball, football, basketball and forgeign sports like soccer and rugby.

Games like golf, trap shooting, stock car racing, pool, poker, etc. I consider skilled games or events like many others. Casper was a good golfer in his day and Daly had his moments and look at their physical condition and I remember seeing AJ Foyd in those thrash sport events that use to be on TV in the 70's, think he got lapped in the bicycle event, give him a steering wheel and some horse power though and the real athletes would have been lapped.

This debate has been going on for ever, I guess it's what you consider a sport is a sport to you. I watch a lot of tournament foosball and on the foosball boards there is probably about 10 threads of the debate. Now you tell me, you think foosball is a sport? darts? No Way!

Ya know, it's funny you say this, because I've had the same discussions with people, only the topic was art. What is and what isn't.

I had a feeling that's how you defined sports. Athletics. So, according to you, a Little League baseball player isn't playing a sport because he isn't athletically conditioned?

Technically, a sport is any source of recreational diversion requiring competition. The Olympic games on The Wide World Of Sports.

We often refer to all the sports you mentioned in the first paragraph as games (baseball game, football game, soccer game, etc.), so what's stopping us from considering all the games you mentioned afterwards as sports?

Yup, I consider golf a sport, just as I do rock climbing, skeet shooting, car racing, horse racing, bowling, arm wrestling, pool, darts, foosball, shuffleboard, hopscotch, jacks, chess, Monopoly, or any other activity in which we play to win. If there's a competition, especially in that of a league, it's considered a sport. Fantasy simulation baseball leagues, while requiring nothing but a chair, is a sport. And just try to tell someone from NASCAR or the the PBA that they're not participating in a sporting event. (Actually, I wouldn't advise doing that.)

On the other hand, the WWF requires strenuous athletic conditioning, but do we consider it a sport? After all, its outcome is preconceived. If we consider WWF as a sport, then all theater is a sport. (But I don't recommend telling a WWF member that he's not participating in a sport either, heh.)

Some people hunt for sport. Is hunting a sport? Well, based on your definition, you'd say yes if they're climbing mountains wearing backpacks and carrying heavy artillery, but no if they're at the petting zoo with a slingshot.

Well, I guess it's a matter of perspective, as is just about anything in this crazy world of humanity. Thanx for reading. You've been a good sport.

[YankeeFan01]

Sorry, I had to say this:


Soccer is a sport, isn't it?
barely.

[Old Sweater]

it's funny you say this, because I've had the same discussions with people, only the topic was art. What is and what isn't.

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That is easy. Art is what hangs on the wall.

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I had a feeling that's how you defined sports. Athletics. So, according to you, a Little League baseball player isn't playing a sport because he isn't athletically conditioned?
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No I define this as kids playing a sport since baseball is a sport and IMO the best one going. If they stick with baseball they will be conditioned athlete as they get older. I watch the kids play in a field by the library evey summer here in Littleton.

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Technically, a sport is any source of recreational diversion requiring competition. The Olympic games on The Wide World Of Sports.

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According to who though?

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We often refer to all the sports you mentioned in the first paragraph as games (baseball game, football game, soccer game, etc.), so what's stopping us from considering all the games you mentioned afterwards as sports?

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What stops a lot of people, myself included is our opinion. Like the golf vs. baseball thread, I bet the of the 12 votes that golf got were by 12 posters that play golf.

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Yup, I consider golf a sport, just as I do rock climbing, skeet shooting, car racing, horse racing, bowling, arm wrestling, pool, darts, foosball, shuffleboard, hopscotch, jacks, chess, Monopoly, or any other activity in which we play to win. If there's a competition, especially in that of a league, it's considered a sport. Fantasy simulation baseball leagues, while requiring nothing but a chair, is a sport. And just try to tell someone from NASCAR or the the PBA that they're not participating in a sporting event. (Actually, I wouldn't advise doing that.)

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Now we all have to draw a line somewhere. Monopoly? Now NASCAR fans get to the race track doing the same thing as the race car drivers, just at a lot slower speed so I say NASCAR isn't a sport. And if you consider chess a sport I would advise you not to post it on a baseball board.

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On the other hand, the WWF requires strenuous athletic conditioning, but do we consider it a sport? After all, its outcome is preconceived. If we consider WWF as a sport, then all theater is a sport. (But I don't recommend telling a WWF member that he's not participating in a sport either, heh.)

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Not to much to say here. I don't have the slightest idea why WWF is so popular. I do know I have a aunt that was crazy about it and the Jerry Springer show.

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Some people hunt for sport. Is hunting a sport? Well, based on your definition, you'd say yes if they're climbing mountains wearing backpacks andcarrying heavy artillery, but no if they're at the petting zoo with a slingshot.

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Now I deer hunted for years and counted it as a vacation. Same go's for fishing ( I would advise myself not to tell this to Ted Williams, Bob Knight or Whitey Herzog this.)

[milladrive]

That is easy. Art is what hangs on the wall.

Heh, c'mon. Thank goodness I know you're kiddin'. I know you're not that simplistic.

No I define this as kids playing a sport since baseball is a sport and IMO the best one going. If they stick with baseball they will be conditioned athlete as they get older...

But you're just contradicting what you said earlier... "Oh I consider anything that a conditioned athlete plays to be a sport like baseball, football, basketball and forgeign sports like soccer and rugby." Kids are not athletically conditioned. According to your first statement, one needs to be athletically conditioned, but then you say that kids can play whatever you call a sport while muscles become more conditioned. I'm just interpreting your own words, but quite honestly, I find a lotta holes in them.

According to who though?

According to all reliable dictionaries.

What stops a lot of people, myself included is our opinion. Like the golf vs. baseball thread, I bet the of the 12 votes that golf got were by 12 posters that play golf.

I can't say whether or not the 12 voters do or don't play golf, but I do know that opinion cannot change fact. I may be of the opinion that the sky is orange, but that doesn't change the fact that it's blue. The fact remains that not all sports are athletically inclined. Big difference between fact and opinion, and an opinion that contradicts fact is meaningless.

Now we all have to draw a line somewhere. Monopoly? Now NASCAR fans get to the race track doing the same thing as the race car drivers, just at a lot slower speed so I say NASCAR isn't a sport. And if you consider chess a sport I would advise you not to post it on a baseball board.

Evidently, you've not been reading my posts. I'll start this reply by stating that I too happen to think baseball is the best sport in the world. Why else would I spend so much time at the best baseball forum in the world? If I were a huge fan of chess tournaments, I'd be elsewhere. But I feel quite comfortable in my knowledge of what is and what's not a sport. I know this may be hard to believe, but a spelling bee can be considered a sporting event. The drawn line comes nowhere near athletic abilities.

And if you think the only thing that separates NASCAR drivers from the fans who drive to get there is the speed at which they drive, then I think it may be time to reevaluate your thoughts on it. Read what I wrote again. Race car drivers are up against competition to win at their particular game. Casual drivers are not. According to your logic, Olympic relay running is not a sport, since so many people jog. At what point does sailing become America's Cup? Hey, when does downhill skiing go from sport to vacation? When does roller skating go from pleasant teenage diversion to fierce competitive derbying?

...Ya know what, don't answer those questions. I already know your thoughts here. There are about half a dozen sports in the world, all requiring athletics, while the rest are merely games. Thanx for clearing that up. :rolleyes:

Not to much to say here. I don't have the slightest idea why WWF is so popular.

I don't either, but I didn't mention popularity. Just sports-worthiness. These "wrestlers" are athletically conditioned! What happened to your criteria?

[Old Sweater]

I don't either, but I didn't mention popularity. Just sports-worthiness. These "wrestlers" are athletically conditioned! What happened to your criteria?

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Geeesh, they are conditioned actors at most entertaining in a rigged event. I don't consider weight pumping, steriod taking wrestlers that know who is going to win before they crawl through the ropes as being conditioned athletes. Do you? I guess you would if you get your criteria from a book and not the heart.

[milladrive]

Geeesh, they are conditioned actors at most entertaining in a rigged event. I don't consider weight pumping, steriod taking wrestlers that know who is going to win before they crawl through the ropes as being conditioned athletes. Do you? I guess you would if you get your criteria from a book and not the heart.

I'm not sure I know what that means, but okay. This is boring anyway.