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Minstrel
02-17-2007, 10:47 AM
Has DMF's clock expired? I think it has.

It hasn't. Remember that 11 PM EST to 8 AM PST doesn't count. In fact, I believe a "dead zone" during the night was your idea. ;)

AlecBoy006
02-17-2007, 01:53 PM
Bobby Shantz- 1957

AlecBoy006
02-17-2007, 02:22 PM
Here is my pic for him.

ronnie5
02-17-2007, 03:47 PM
Since the last pick was made at 9:58 CDT, his 8 hour window ends in about ten minutes, correct?

Wee Willie
02-17-2007, 03:56 PM
First pick: Ken Boyer, 1960

Second pick: Jason Giambi, 2002

Erik Bedard
02-17-2007, 04:40 PM
It hasn't. Remember that 11 PM EST to 8 AM PST doesn't count. In fact, I believe a "dead zone" during the night was your idea. ;)

See, the last pick before that was made at 11 PM EST, and my pick was made at 1 EST.

Either way, it's definitely up now. And he still hasn't picked, so all the picks go through.

Minstrel
02-17-2007, 04:56 PM
See, the last pick before that was made at 11 PM EST, and my pick was made at 1 EST.

Right, so his window began at 8 AM PST (11 AM EST), so he was only 2 hours into his window when you picked.


Either way, it's definitely up now. And he still hasn't picked, so all the picks go through.

True.

AlecBoy006
02-17-2007, 05:47 PM
1989


Rik Aalbert

Erik Bedard
02-17-2007, 06:04 PM
Need another pitcher... let's go with:

EDDIE PLANK, 1911

Westlake
02-17-2007, 06:07 PM
I guess its Minstrel's turn since DMF has a pick pending.

Minstrel
02-17-2007, 06:24 PM
I select:



Dizzy Dean

Disgruntaledmarinerfan
02-17-2007, 06:30 PM
I rightfully got skipped for not selecting a player during my window, so how do I go about picking now? will i only have 24 players? will i be abl to make up for being skipped.

Westlake
02-17-2007, 06:32 PM
No, you get both your picks as soon as you make them. Take your 2 players.

yanks0714
02-17-2007, 07:15 PM
I select Paul Molitor > 1989

Assigned to 3B for the time being.

Minstrel
02-17-2007, 07:26 PM
I rightfully got skipped for not selecting a player during my window, so how do I go about picking now? will i only have 24 players? will i be abl to make up for being skipped.

Well, as Westlake said...you can make your (two) missed picks at any time. You simply lost your exclusive window and others got to make picks ahead of you.

You're in danger of being dropped from the draft if you don't make a selection soon (14 picks after your initial missed pick, your own auto-skipped picks not included).

ChrisLDuncan
02-17-2007, 07:38 PM
Mike Mussina 1995.

Disgruntaledmarinerfan
02-17-2007, 07:38 PM
I pick eddie cicotte 1913 and orvall overall 1908.
I am veryu sorry for my extreme tardyness of my picks. In the future I will do what ever I can to avoid this happening again.

Minstrel
02-17-2007, 07:42 PM
I pick eddie cicotte 1913 and orvall overall 1908.
I am veryu sorry for my extreme tardyness of my picks. In the future I will do what ever I can to avoid this happening again.

No problem. Sometimes these things happen.

Westlake
02-17-2007, 07:45 PM
I pick orvall overall 1908.
Dont let anyone ever tell you you don't keep it different and interesting....

That being said...

Nomar Garciaparra, SS, 1998

-Kyle-
02-17-2007, 07:54 PM
^ Good pick

1970 Tony Perez

yanks0714
02-17-2007, 09:21 PM
How come nobody ever tells me, " Good pick '? I'n starting to get an inferiority complex. ;)

Westlake
02-17-2007, 09:25 PM
Im too busy being mad at you for taking players RIGHT before I wanted to take them. :grouchy
Bob Gibson :grouchy

yanks0714
02-17-2007, 11:24 PM
Im too busy being mad at you for taking players RIGHT before I wanted to take them. :grouchy
Bob Gibson :grouchy

Oh, sorry. Well, there was another Bob Gibson who played MLB...maybe you can draft him. :waving

BoSox Rule
02-17-2007, 11:44 PM
I'll make my pick in a few minutes.

BoSox Rule
02-17-2007, 11:46 PM
Eddie Murray 1982

-Kyle-
02-18-2007, 01:41 PM
Are we planning a lightning round tomorrow (Sunday)????
I could go for one...it has been mighty slow recently...

Minstrel
02-18-2007, 02:04 PM
It seems like weekday evenings are better for people. Our Sunday attempt was rather ill-fated, while the Thursday edition went swimmingly. Let's try to get in another lightning round this coming week.

Westlake
02-18-2007, 02:05 PM
Im ok with making it 10 hour windows with no 'off time' as well.

Wade8813
02-18-2007, 02:10 PM
Rube Marquard - 1916


You're in danger of being dropped from the draft if you don't make a selection soon (14 picks after your initial missed pick, your own auto-skipped picks not included).
There's no reason to do this. Dropping someone makes them unhappy, and doesn't make things faster for us, because we skip their next picks anyway. So what if we'd skipped DMF for 50 picks? Why drop him? There's no reason. After we're done drafting, we can drop someone, so we can move on with the simming, but otherwise, who cares?

And what happens if we're having another lightning round? Someone is gone for an hour, and they get dropped from the draft?

yanks0714
02-18-2007, 04:26 PM
It seems like weekday evenings are better for people. Our Sunday attempt was rather ill-fated, while the Thursday edition went swimmingly. Let's try to get in another lightning round this coming week.

Yeah, I agree. Let's try for another lightening round on Thursday again. It went rather well after a slow start. May I be so bold as to propose we keep a strict 15 minute Window during the lightning round. Start promptly at 8PM ET.

I'm also agreeable to eliminating the 'dead' Window completely. Even drop the current 8 hour Window to 4 hours. If that results in my missing my turn because I'm at work or whatever (as darn near happened in the very first round), well, too bad, I make my pick as soon as I can then. I may not get whomever I wanted but tough...there are plenty of other choices out there.

Lets hear what everyone says on this.

Huntington Avenue
02-18-2007, 04:44 PM
Well, I don't think I could go along with that. I'm fairly busy with school and after-school stuff; four hours would be a stretch. I was sweating bullets all week in class because I always had the strange feeling that it was my turn, like when you know someone is staring at you. I'm okay with how it is now, and I think if we changed it it would become something of a free-for-all. But, if it did change, that wouldn't be too problematic.

Minstrel
02-18-2007, 04:44 PM
There's no reason to do this. Dropping someone makes them unhappy, and doesn't make things faster for us, because we skip their next picks anyway.

Yeah, I don't mind dropping that rule. It can be helpful in the early-going to quickly drop people who never show up, so we can replace them. Now, it doesn't much matter.


'm also agreeable to eliminating the 'dead' Window completely. Even drop the current 8 hour Window to 4 hours. If that results in my missing my turn because I'm at work or whatever (as darn near happened in the very first round), well, too bad, I make my pick as soon as I can then. I may not get whomever I wanted but tough...there are plenty of other choices out there.

I don't like the idea of dropping the dead window AND dropping the time. I don't want my turn to come up at 1 AM and expire at 5 AM. And for someone at the ends of rounds, they can lose two picks that way.

I agree that it's nice to keep the draft moving as quickly as possible, but not to the extreme that people may not even get reasonable chances to make their picks.

The draft is not moving slowly...I've been in these before, and this is probably the fastest one I've been in. A day without a pick can be routine sometimes and we've never approached that.

Westlake
02-18-2007, 05:00 PM
Speaking of making a pick.... where's the birthday boy Chris with his? :)

ChrisLDuncan
02-18-2007, 05:40 PM
Speaking of making a pick.... where's the birthday boy Chris with his? :)


He's probably still busy figuring out where to put his Joe Morgan FatHead that he got in his room ;)

Although in all seriousness, happy birthday Chris.

Erik Bedard
02-18-2007, 06:12 PM
Speaking of making a pick.... where's the birthday boy Chris with his? :)

Happy birthday, Chris!

Wow, I now have the second-most posts of any BBF member aged 14.

Huntington Avenue
02-18-2007, 06:25 PM
Happy Birthday....w00t!

Isn't my window coming up soon? The last pick was around 5:00, wasn't it?

Westlake
02-18-2007, 06:27 PM
If Chris doesnt come, your pick isn't til tomorrow around 10 AM

Huntington Avenue
02-18-2007, 07:33 PM
Ah, OK, Gotcha. I'm eager because I think I have a super-sleeper on my hands......

ronnie5
02-18-2007, 07:36 PM
Assuming Chris doesn't show, what time do you think you'll be able to make your pick?

Huntington Avenue
02-18-2007, 07:40 PM
I'd have to PM it to somebody, I'm going to be away tomorrow. I could PM my two to you so you could make all four.

Minstrel
02-18-2007, 07:40 PM
Ah, OK, Gotcha. I'm eager because I think I have a super-sleeper on my hands......

Chris' time runs out at 1 AM EST, so when the dead period elapses (8 AM PST / 11 AM EST), you can pick. Unless he picks before that.

ronnie5
02-18-2007, 07:53 PM
I'd have to PM it to somebody, I'm going to be away tomorrow. I could PM my two to you so you could make all four.

Sure, you can do that.

538280
02-18-2007, 08:24 PM
Thanks for the Happy Birthdays guys...it's been a good day for me.

Anyway, with my pick I take Amos Rusie 1897



Also, going back to an earlier pick, with a closer look I'd like to switch from Kevin Brown's 1997 to his 2000.

ronnie5
02-18-2007, 09:01 PM
Ok, I don't think Huntington is getting back online so I'll make his pick for him. Dale Murphy, 1983. My picks are on the way in a bit

Minstrel
02-18-2007, 09:11 PM
Thanks for the Happy Birthdays guys...it's been a good day for me.

Oh, I meant to but forgot...happy birthday, Chris! (It's still your birthday on this coast, so it isn't belated.)

ronnie5
02-18-2007, 09:41 PM
I'll take "Fat Elvis" AKA Lance Berkman, 2006



And Orel Hershiser, 1985

Huntington Avenue
02-18-2007, 09:57 PM
My next pick:

Jimmy Collins, 1897. (Do you think the picture is big enough? :p)

ChrisLDuncan
02-18-2007, 10:37 PM
I'll take "Fat Elvis" AKA Lance Berkman, 2006



And Orel Hershiser, 1985


:grouchy :grouchy :grouchy :grouchy :grouchy :grouchy :grouchy :grouchy
Those were two of my "sleepers" I guess with you I can't let any players from the state of Texas sleep.

ronnie5
02-18-2007, 10:42 PM
:grouchy :grouchy :grouchy :grouchy :grouchy :grouchy :grouchy :grouchy
Those were two of my "sleepers" I guess with you I can't let any players from the state of Texas sleep.

Haha, definitely not. Thats what happens when you're raised on Astros baseball.

ChrisLDuncan
02-18-2007, 11:28 PM
Haha, definitely not. Thats what happens when you're raised on Astros baseball.



See I had Berkman as a great sleeper because he's been overshadowed his whole career...I guess the early bird got the worm though. Your team is shaping up to be something special though.

Westlake
02-18-2007, 11:29 PM
:grouchy :grouchy :grouchy :grouchy :grouchy :grouchy :grouchy :grouchy
Those were two of my "sleepers" I guess with you I can't let any players from the state of Texas sleep.

TEXAS!!! YEEHAWWWWW!!!!

ChrisLDuncan
02-18-2007, 11:31 PM
TEXAS!!! YEEHAWWWWW!!!!


I was born in Dallas myself, but I've never seen Texas as a big baseball state...but mostly because it's too damn hot at Ameriquest Field in the summer for me.

yanks0714
02-19-2007, 05:53 AM
Thanks for the Happy Birthdays guys...it's been a good day for me.

Anyway, with my pick I take Amos Rusie 1897

[

Chris, no!!!! I've been looking at Rusie for several rounds but had to fill out my line-up. He was my sleeper pick!

BTW, happy belated B-Day.

538280
02-19-2007, 07:49 AM
Hoyt Wilhelm, 1954

-Kyle-
02-19-2007, 08:29 AM
Hoyt Wilhelm, 1954


Awww man. :ughh

Erik Bedard
02-19-2007, 08:33 AM
TEXAS!!! YEEHAWWWWW!!!!

I was in Texas this summer.... aside from Austin, I didn't like it. But maybe that was because it was cloudy the rest of the time.

Wade8813
02-19-2007, 11:36 AM
Ed Walsh - 1909

Westlake
02-19-2007, 11:40 AM
Ed Walsh - 1909
He was taken in the 3rd round.

ronnie5
02-19-2007, 11:43 AM
See I had Berkman as a great sleeper because he's been overshadowed his whole career...I guess the early bird got the worm though. Your team is shaping up to be something special though.

Thanks man. I really like my infield, but yours is just as good, if not better.

Wade8813
02-19-2007, 11:46 AM
Wow. That's embarrassing. I accidentally had him on my list twice, and only marked him as picked once.

I'll take Chief Bender - 1907

BoSox Rule
02-19-2007, 12:10 PM
I'll go with Paul Waner 1934.

-Kyle-
02-19-2007, 12:41 PM
Roberto Clemente 1964

ChrisLDuncan
02-19-2007, 12:49 PM
UGHHHH One of my sleepers to play LF.

Westlake
02-19-2007, 01:07 PM
Designated Hitter, Dan Brouthers, 1885

ChrisLDuncan
02-19-2007, 01:11 PM
I will pick Rich Gossage 1978, it's about time I get some Damned Yankees on my team.

Wade8813
02-19-2007, 01:39 PM
Brouthers didn't have enough games in 1885.

Westlake
02-19-2007, 01:42 PM
Brouthers didn't have enough games in 1885.
By my calculations, he played 87.5 percent of the games scheduled.

Erik Bedard
02-19-2007, 01:43 PM
Still, he only played in 98 games.

Westlake
02-19-2007, 01:44 PM
Still, he only played in 98 games.

The rules say 80% of games scheduled, do they not? How do you want him to play 130 games if there was only 112 scheduled?

From another thread..


Not a valid selection, unfortunately. He didn't play enough games. A full season for a position player counts as 80% of the team's scheduled games (70% for a catcher).

ChrisLDuncan
02-19-2007, 01:45 PM
The rules say 80% of games scheduled, do they not? How do you want him to play 130 games if there was only 112 scheduled?


I think you just nailed him.

Wade8813
02-19-2007, 01:45 PM
I was looking at the wrong year - nevermind.

Erik Bedard
02-19-2007, 01:51 PM
I'm pretty sure it had to be 120 games. Otherwise.....

yanks0714
02-19-2007, 02:28 PM
I guess it's my selection since ChrisLDuncan selected....

I select Ted Simmons > 1978

I needed a catcher and he's the best available.

ChrisLDuncan
02-19-2007, 03:07 PM
I guess it's my selection since ChrisLDuncan selected....

I select Ted Simmons > 1978

I needed a catcher and he's the best available.

Really??? There's a few that I would have taken instead, but I need a good BC.

Westlake
02-19-2007, 03:09 PM
Ted Simmons was a good pick. Definately one of the top 3 catchers left.

Wade8813
02-19-2007, 03:23 PM
I had him as the best hitting catcher left, although I don't know how good he was behind the plate. Of course, there are probably a few I don't remember, since I stopped searching for them when I got Bill Dickey.

ronnie5
02-19-2007, 06:34 PM
Minstrel's up, right? I think this is by far the longest he's ever taken...

Wade8813
02-19-2007, 06:55 PM
Yeah. He even posted on the NL thread while it was his turn...

Minstrel
02-19-2007, 09:05 PM
Sorry, lost track of it being my pick before and then got called away from the computer.

I select:



Reggie Jackson : 1980

ronnie5
02-19-2007, 09:06 PM
Deleted post

Westlake
02-19-2007, 09:09 PM
Sorry, lost track of it being my pick before and then got called away from the computer.

Ugh. No excuse for this. You have been late for the last time -- you have been overthrown. Walk the plank.

ronnie5
02-19-2007, 09:11 PM
Reggie Jackson : 1980

Good pick. By my count, hes the last guy with 500+ home runs taken, right?

Minstrel
02-19-2007, 09:11 PM
I'm pretty sure it had to be 120 games. Otherwise.....

When I was discussing the rules prior to strarting the game, I mentioned players would need 120 games. But then a good point was brought up that the schedules varied in games, so I changed it to 80% of scheduled games (70% for catchers) with major strike years ineligible.

That's how it's been since the game started. It's in the Draft Details and Discussion thread, in the first post.

Minstrel
02-19-2007, 09:14 PM
Good pick. By my count, hes the last guy with 500+ home runs taken, right?

There's one left, I believe. But thanks...he really helps round out my outfield. I think he's a good value at this stage.

Minstrel
02-19-2007, 09:14 PM
Ugh. No excuse for this. You have been late for the last time -- you have been overthrown. Walk the plank.

You're all heart. ;)

Westlake
02-19-2007, 09:27 PM
There's one left, I believe. But thanks...he really helps round out my outfield. I think he's a good value at this stage.

Si... todavia hay uno.

Wade8813
02-19-2007, 09:27 PM
You think he's bad, just wait 'til my ninjas assassinate you in your sleep tonight.

Minstrel
02-19-2007, 09:28 PM
You think he's bad, just wait 'til my ninjas assassinate you.

I don't give up as easily as Evan, because I have more than a tennis racket. I have...pirates! The traditional scourge of ninjas.

Finished. Who's next? ;)

Wade8813
02-19-2007, 09:30 PM
Ha! These are real ninjas - pirates barely even slow them down.

ronnie5
02-19-2007, 09:58 PM
So, under this new rule, DMF has until 10 AM CDT to pick, correct?

Minstrel
02-19-2007, 09:59 PM
So, under this new rule, DMF has until 10 AM CDT to pick, correct?

Yes indeed.

Minstrel
02-19-2007, 10:00 PM
Ha! These are real ninjas - pirates barely even slow them down.

"Real" ninjas simply get "really" smacked down by pirates.

Wade8813
02-19-2007, 10:15 PM
The only way pirates even stand a chance against ninjas is if they stand face to face (and even then, the ninjas are more likely to win). But ninjas aren't stupid enough to be caught in a situation that's ideal for a pirate.

Westlake
02-19-2007, 10:30 PM
Fellas fellas.... my Precision Response would take down both pirates and ninjas with one fatal forehand.

The Splendid Splinter
02-19-2007, 10:36 PM
Fellas fellas.... my Precision Response would take down both pirates and ninjas with one fatal forehand.


oh come on... we all know Chuck Norris would kill all of them... or maybe Jean Claude Van Damme or Steven Seagal...:p

Wade8813
02-19-2007, 10:36 PM
Fellas fellas.... my Precision Response would take down both pirates and ninjas with one fatal forehand
That might be true, IF the ninjas stood there and let you hit them.

Wade8813
02-19-2007, 10:37 PM
oh come on... we all know Chuck Norris would kill all of them... or maybe Jean Claude Van Damme or Steven Seagal...:p Bruce Lee, Jet Li, Chow Yun Fat, Jackie Chan; any one of those could easily beat Jean Claude + Chuck Norris + Seagal. And ninjas are as good as any of them.

Minstrel
02-19-2007, 10:38 PM
The only way pirates even stand a chance against ninjas is if they stand face to face (and even then, the ninjas are more likely to win). But ninjas aren't stupid enough to be caught in a situation that's ideal for a pirate.

Pirates would trick ninjas into waging a sea battle. Naturally, the pirates would win. Having ships and all.

Pirates are wily.

Minstrel
02-19-2007, 10:39 PM
Bruce Lee >>>> all

Fixed it for ya.

But Lee wasn't a ninja, sorry.

Wade8813
02-19-2007, 10:44 PM
Pirates would trick ninjas into waging a sea battle. Naturally, the pirates would win. Having ships and all.
Pirates are wily. Pirates couldn't trick a 6 year old.


Fixed it for ya.

But Lee wasn't a ninja, sorry. No, but they have similar skills, techniques, etc. Lee was more in your face, but both got the job done.

Wade8813
02-20-2007, 12:05 AM
So, under this new rule, DMF has until 10 AM CDT to pick, correct?Yes indeed. Whoah. Wait. Any time you implement new rules, especially ones as big as this, you need to make sure everyone knows about it. I knew we were discussing them, but I didn't know we were implementing them. I KNOW there are some people who don't even know about the changes.

Westlake
02-20-2007, 12:26 AM
Whoah. Wait. Any time you implement new rules, especially ones as big as this, you need to make sure everyone knows about it. I knew we were discussing them, but I didn't know we were implementing them. I KNOW there are some people who don't even know about the changes.

Well how long do you want us to wait? If we wait for everyone to acknowledge this rule, it will defeat the purpose of it... I might only be implemented for the last 5 rounds or so..

Disgruntaledmarinerfan
02-20-2007, 06:08 AM
I'll take Howie Camnitz. 1908.

Erik Bedard
02-20-2007, 06:19 AM
Robin Yount, 1989.

Minstrel
02-20-2007, 08:33 AM
Whoah. Wait. Any time you implement new rules, especially ones as big as this, you need to make sure everyone knows about it. I knew we were discussing them, but I didn't know we were implementing them. I KNOW there are some people who don't even know about the changes.

I assume everyone's reading the AL Discussion thread. But I'll reiterate the new rule and post it in this AL Draft thread.

Minstrel
02-20-2007, 08:37 AM
Important Announcement

Based on feedback, I've changed how the nightly "dead period" works. Instead of the time simply not counting, it now counts towards the expiration of a selection window, but the window can't actually expire until the dead period ends.

What this means practically is that under the old system, if you had 5 hours left in your window when the dead period began (11 PM EST), you still had 5 hours left when the dead period ended (8 AM PST).

Now, in that same circumstance, those 5 hours will run out during the dead period, meaning you'll have no time left once the dead period ends. But since selection windows can't expire during the dead period, it won't be the next person's turn until the dead period ends.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Wade8813
02-20-2007, 10:15 AM
Well how long do you want us to wait? If we wait for everyone to acknowledge this rule, it will defeat the purpose of it... I might only be implemented for the last 5 rounds or so.. It wasn't even clearly posted as a rule change until late yesterday, when someone asked if DMF had until 10 am under the new rules. Any mention of the changes before that seemed like a suggestion asking for feedback. I read everything posted about the suggested changes, and if ronnie5 hadn't asked, I wouldn't have even known the change was official. At least now we have an official announcement.

Minstrel
02-20-2007, 10:31 AM
It wasn't even clearly posted as a rule change until late yesterday, when someone asked if DMF had until 10 am under the new rules. Any mention of the changes before that seemed like a suggestion asking for feedback. I read everything posted about the suggested changes, and if ronnie5 hadn't asked, I wouldn't have even known the change was official. At least now we have an official announcement.

I did say the the Draft Details and Discussion thread that I'd be implementing it.

http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=825552&postcount=386

So there was an official announcement.

Wade8813
02-20-2007, 10:47 AM
The way you wrote it seemed unclear to me - you said that's the way it would be from now on, which is certainly a rules change, but then you asked if everyone was ok with it, which implies that it's still up for discussion. Maybe the problem's with me.

ronnie5
02-20-2007, 02:16 PM
Isn't AlecBoy's clock about to run out?

Wade8813
02-20-2007, 02:26 PM
I dunno... is the clock 8 hours, 10 hours, or 12 hours? I seem to vaguely remember all of those being mentioned. I think it's 10 hours, so people that work an 8 hour day can still make it home, then pick. If so, he's got a little while longer.

tearforamariner
02-20-2007, 02:29 PM
I dunno... is the clock 8 hours, 10 hours, or 12 hours? I seem to vaguely remember all of those being mentioned. I think it's 10 hours, so people that work an 8 hour day can still make it home, then pick. If so, he's got a little while longer.

It's 8 hours.

ronnie5
02-20-2007, 02:33 PM
It's 8 hours.

Yup, it's eight hours. So, WeeWillie is up.

Wade8813
02-20-2007, 02:34 PM
Sheesh. Good thing I don't have an 8 hour job. I could miss out on a pick just because I got stuck in rush-hour traffic on my way home from work. Especially with this Seattle traffic. :( :ughh

Minstrel
02-20-2007, 02:50 PM
I dunno... is the clock 8 hours, 10 hours, or 12 hours? I seem to vaguely remember all of those being mentioned. I think it's 10 hours, so people that work an 8 hour day can still make it home, then pick. If so, he's got a little while longer.

All those times were mentioned, but people most favoured an 8 hour window. It's been that way since the start of the game...length of window hasn't changed at any point.

AlecBoy006
02-20-2007, 03:12 PM
Derek Lowe- 2002.

*Assigns to closer*

-Kyle-
02-20-2007, 03:14 PM
Derek Lowe- 2002.

*Assigns to closer*
Sinkerball pitcher for a good defense.

AlecBoy006
02-20-2007, 03:42 PM
Yup.

I'm a defensive guy.

Someone said with him I'll pitch SHO after SHO.

tearforamariner
02-20-2007, 03:51 PM
Derek Lowe- 2002.

*Assigns to closer*

You can't use 2002.

Westlake
02-20-2007, 03:56 PM
You can't use 2002.

Classic TFAM... raining on everyone's parade. :hp

Wade8813
02-20-2007, 03:58 PM
Hey, up here in the Pacific NW, rain is par for the course.

AlecBoy006
02-20-2007, 04:06 PM
Then, I'll take 03, or 06.

Disgruntaledmarinerfan
02-20-2007, 04:07 PM
Yup.

I'm a defensive guy.

Someone said with him I'll pitch SHO after SHO.

Shut out after shut out? I really really doubt that. I don't care how good a pitcher is, no one is going to pitch shut outs with any degree of regularity. especially not derek lowe.

Wade8813
02-20-2007, 04:09 PM
Gotta agree with DMF here - when a team's #9 hitter has a line like .362/.428/.617 with 22 HR, there won't be many shutouts, if any.

-Kyle-
02-20-2007, 04:17 PM
Gotta agree with DMF here - when a team's #9 hitter has a line like .362/.428/.617 with 22 HR, there won't be many shutouts, if any.
All coming from '20s, '30s, '90s, and '00s. :cool:

Wade8813
02-20-2007, 04:27 PM
Don't forget 1900's.

But yeah, when you list almost half the decades, it's little surprise that you can cover a team's entire lineup in there. :rolleyes:

Minstrel
02-20-2007, 04:28 PM
Then, I'll take 03, or 06.

Pick one and have no regrets, my son.

Westlake
02-20-2007, 04:43 PM
Arg... Wee Willie got on and off with picking..

Wade8813
02-20-2007, 04:52 PM
We had talked about implementing a rule where anyone who was on and didn't pick when it was there turn could be skipped. Did we ever make it a rule?

Westlake
02-20-2007, 04:52 PM
Im not sure, although I think we did.

AlecBoy006
02-20-2007, 04:58 PM
Derek Lowe- 2006.

I'll find a closer later.

So here is my staff so far:

Bobby Shantz 57
Jim Kaat 74
Blyleven 89
Lowe 06

-Kyle-
02-20-2007, 05:16 PM
Oh sorry wade, I thought you said your entire team. :o

Westlake
02-20-2007, 05:40 PM
So is Wee Willie being skipped for now?

Wee Willie
02-20-2007, 05:50 PM
Stan Coveleski - 1917

Next pick forthcoming. Sorry for the delay, guys.

Westlake
02-20-2007, 05:52 PM
Stan Coveleski - 1917

Next pick forthcoming. Sorry for the delay, guys.

Nice pick. Hes been on my board for a long time now.

Wee Willie
02-20-2007, 05:55 PM
Gonna go ahead and nail down my pitching.

Billy Wagner - 2005

Erik Bedard
02-20-2007, 05:57 PM
Coveleski hurts. He was #2 on my list, after a guy who might be considered a sleeper, though he's probably on somebody else's list.

AlecBoy006
02-20-2007, 05:57 PM
To wrap up my rotation

Catfish Hunter- 1972

Erik Bedard
02-20-2007, 06:23 PM
Don Drysdale, 1962

Minstrel
02-20-2007, 06:23 PM
Don Drysdale, 1962



Okay, scratch one of my fifth starter options...

Westlake
02-20-2007, 06:24 PM
Thanks for breaking up my Dodger pair. :(

Erik Bedard
02-20-2007, 06:26 PM
No problem. :laugh

ChrisLDuncan
02-20-2007, 06:59 PM
DAMN YOU ALEC BOY!!!!!!!!!! I had Catfish as one fo my sleepers. I was hoping to get him in three rounds.

:grouchy :grouchy

-Kyle-
02-20-2007, 07:02 PM
Gonna go ahead and nail down my pitching.

Billy Wagner - 2005
:ughh :ughh :ughh :ughh I wanted that 300 ERA+

Disgruntaledmarinerfan
02-20-2007, 07:21 PM
i select Tevor Hoffman. I will use his statistics from his 1999 season.

AlecBoy006
02-20-2007, 07:23 PM
HAHA!!!

Deal with it- CLD.

ChrisLDuncan
02-20-2007, 07:25 PM
i select Tevor Hoffman. I will use his statistics from his 1999 season.


You suck :grouchy :grouchy :grouchy :grouchy :grouchy

ChrisLDuncan
02-20-2007, 07:35 PM
Minstrel is Fin up again, he's late to the draft again...DMF picked all of about 20 minutes ago and he's no where to be seen
Sheesh

Minstrel
02-20-2007, 07:49 PM
I select:



Bruce Sutter : 1984

yanks0714
02-20-2007, 07:52 PM
I select Goose Goslin > 1931

My DH for now.

ChrisLDuncan
02-20-2007, 07:52 PM
UGHHHHHHHHHH :grouchy :grouchy :grouchy :grouchy :grouchy

Wee Willie
02-20-2007, 07:55 PM
I select Goose Goslin > 1931

My DH for now.
Nice pick. I was strongly considering him tonite, but went with pitching instead.

ChrisLDuncan
02-20-2007, 07:56 PM
Roy Oswalt 2006

ronnie5
02-20-2007, 07:57 PM
Roy Oswalt 2006

Wowwwwwwwww I hate you...:evil :evil :evil :evil :evil

-Kyle-
02-20-2007, 07:59 PM
Wowwwwwwwww I hate you...:evil :evil :evil :evil :evil
I can see how you would, Oswalt was born and raised in Texas and is the Astros best pitcther today.

ChrisLDuncan
02-20-2007, 07:59 PM
Wowwwwwwwww I hate you...:evil :evil :evil :evil :evil


I knew you'd pick him next

yanks0714
02-20-2007, 07:59 PM
Originally Posted by yanks0714
I select Goose Goslin > 1931

My DH for now.



Nice pick. I was strongly considering him tonite, but went with pitching instead.

Thank you. I've had my eye on him for a few rounds, holding my breath. I had wanted Reggie for DH but when he was picked, Goose was my man.

ronnie5
02-20-2007, 08:00 PM
I can see how you would, Oswalt was born and raised in Texas and is the Astros best pitcther today.

Actually, he's born and raised in Mississippi, but who's counting...

-Kyle-
02-20-2007, 08:04 PM
Actually, he's born and raised in Mississippi, but who's counting...
I read an article in ESPN magazine...I thought it was Texas. His family are farmers/plowers though.

Come on Evan :waving I really want to pick tonight.

ChrisLDuncan
02-20-2007, 08:12 PM
Wowwwwwwwww I hate you...:evil :evil :evil :evil :evil


Then again if you really want Oswalt we could work out a Oswalt for Johnson trade if you're game

ronnie5
02-20-2007, 08:16 PM
I read an article in ESPN magazine...I thought it was Texas. His family are farmers/plowers though.

Come on Evan :waving I really want to pick tonight.

I'm sure he'll make his pick soon... how late you staying up?

ronnie5
02-20-2007, 08:17 PM
Then again if you really want Oswalt we could work out a Oswalt for Johnson trade if you're game

Hahaha... yeah, ok, sure thing...:rolleyes:

Disgruntaledmarinerfan
02-20-2007, 08:37 PM
You suck :grouchy :grouchy :grouchy :grouchy :grouchy
Thanks for the complement.... that means i'm picking well.

Westlake
02-20-2007, 08:50 PM
Frankie Rodriguez -- 2004

ChrisLDuncan
02-20-2007, 09:10 PM
Frankie Rodriguez -- 2004




UGHHHHHHHH damnit

-Kyle-
02-21-2007, 05:30 AM
Dick Radatz 1962

Finally a Red Sox!:dance

BoSox Rule
02-21-2007, 08:25 AM
Bert Blyleven 1971

Erik Bedard
02-21-2007, 08:28 AM
Already picked by AlecBoy. Minstrel spelled his name wrong, though, and Alec didn't put his last name, so a search of "Blyleven" wouldn't come up with any hits.

BoSox Rule
02-21-2007, 08:30 AM
That explains it.

BoSox Rule
02-21-2007, 08:37 AM
I guess I'll go with Roy Halladay 2006

Wee Willie
02-21-2007, 09:31 AM
Dick Radatz 1962

Finally a Red Sox!:dance
Good pick. He was a monster when he first came up.

-Kyle-
02-21-2007, 10:28 AM
Good pick. He was a monster when he first came up.
I thought he was one of the best left...and he was a Red Sox.

Wade8813
02-21-2007, 11:22 AM
Luis Tiant - 1972

Minstrel
02-21-2007, 11:27 AM
It's like you people don't want me to get my fifth starter...!

-Kyle-
02-21-2007, 11:28 AM
It's like you people don't want me to get my fifth starter...!
I can see 3-4 people who I would still take at this point to be my 5th starter.

Erik Bedard
02-21-2007, 11:36 AM
I can see around ten.

Minstrel
02-21-2007, 11:56 AM
I can see 3-4 people who I would still take at this point to be my 5th starter.

Yes, clearly I was joking. I do plan to take a fifth starter. ;) Just that a couple people I was planning to take next disappeared quickly.

-Kyle-
02-21-2007, 01:44 PM
I can see around ten.
10 who you would be pleased with? I can see 3-4 with 10+ WARP and 130 ERA +

Erik Bedard
02-21-2007, 01:51 PM
Yep. I'm not going to name drop, though.

538280
02-21-2007, 03:01 PM
Manny Ramirez: 2006

ChrisLDuncan
02-21-2007, 03:02 PM
There goes my DH

-Kyle-
02-21-2007, 04:06 PM
There goes my DH
He was my next pick as well.

-Kyle-
02-21-2007, 04:07 PM
Yep. I'm not going to name drop, though.
I'm not looking for any. :cool:

Huntington Avenue
02-21-2007, 05:04 PM
John Montgomery Ward, 1880.

Is this legal? He was a pitcher only from '78-'83, '80 was his 3rd best overall though.

ronnie5
02-21-2007, 05:06 PM
John Montgomery Ward, 1880.

Is this legal? He was a pitcher only from '78-'83, '80 was his 3rd best overall though.

No, you cant use anything before 1884

Huntington Avenue
02-21-2007, 05:16 PM
Ah, {horrific string of expletives}, ok. Forgot about that. Update shortly.

Huntington Avenue
02-21-2007, 05:37 PM
Tommy John, 1968.

ChrisLDuncan
02-21-2007, 05:38 PM
Now there's a sleeper

ronnie5
02-21-2007, 06:20 PM
I'll take...



Brandon Webb, 2003



and Troy Percival, 1995

Huntington Avenue
02-21-2007, 06:29 PM
Another pick already, let's hope I get to go with plan A this time...


Keith Foulke, 1999.

Wee Willie
02-21-2007, 06:53 PM
Another pick already, let's hope I get to go with plan A this time...

Keith Foulke, 1999.
Very good pick. I was strongly considering him.

-Kyle-
02-21-2007, 06:53 PM
Very good pick. I was strongly considering him.
Ack, as was I.

Huntington Avenue
02-21-2007, 06:59 PM
I didn't realize it was that good! :) I was just kind of fooling around on BP when I stumbled across him...

Very, very, underrated guy, probably because he threw like a 80-year-old woman. Couldn't resist another photo:

-Kyle-
02-21-2007, 07:11 PM
Over 200 ERA + = Good pick :D

Minstrel
02-21-2007, 08:08 PM
Very, very, underrated guy, probably because he threw like a 80-year-old woman.

He always reminded me of someone playing darts. The way his hand flies forward, is like someone guiding a dart.

Wade8813
02-21-2007, 08:13 PM
So, now you're saying people who play darts throw like 80 year old women?

ronnie5
02-21-2007, 08:15 PM
Over 200 ERA + = Good pick :D

Hey, why didn't I get props for Percival?? He had over a 200+ ERA... I'm getting an inferiority complex too...

-Kyle-
02-21-2007, 08:24 PM
Hey, why didn't I get props for Percival?? He had over a 200+ ERA... I'm getting an inferiority complex too...
Did I say who I was directing it to?:p

Westlake
02-21-2007, 08:25 PM
Did I say who I was directing it to?:p

Dont give him the benefit of the doubt, Kyle. :rolleyes: ;)

538280
02-22-2007, 07:57 AM
Lefty Gomez 1931

Wade8813
02-22-2007, 08:42 AM
Bob Caruthers - 1888

Westlake
02-22-2007, 11:16 AM
Lefty Gomez 1931



I was struggling with my next pick, but you made it very easy for me. Thanks. :evil

BoSox Rule
02-22-2007, 11:54 AM
Jim Bunning 1967

-Kyle-
02-22-2007, 12:11 PM
Oh Yeah! :dance

Dave Stieb 1985

265 Innings 170 ERA+ ...yet it isn't his highest warp...I am sooo happy...:dance

Westlake
02-22-2007, 12:24 PM
Rollie Fingers, 1973

ChrisLDuncan
02-22-2007, 01:13 PM
Sparky Lyle 1974

yanks0714
02-22-2007, 03:33 PM
Dan Quisenberry > 1982

You guys are forcing my hand with this run on closers. I was looking at someone else and decided I'd better get a good Closer before they disappear.

Minstrel
02-22-2007, 03:45 PM
Dan Quisenberry > 1982

You guys are forcing my hand with this run on closers. I was looking at someone else and decided I'd better get a good Closer before they disappear.

Oh, no, no, no. You took my pick RIGHT before me. There has to be a law against that.

I select:



Eric Gagne : 2004

Westlake
02-22-2007, 03:56 PM
So... um... does someone want to not take a reliever? I think a run should be made on backup outfielders... what do you guys say??

Also, whats the point in getting backup position players if there are no injuries in the sim whatsoever. I'd like it for their to at least be a chance of injury, so that its somewhat realistic and I dont feel like im wasting my time getting a backup outfielder.

Wade8813
02-22-2007, 04:00 PM
I was wondering when someone would get around to picking Gagne.

And I'd rather not have injuries. Knowing my luck, the one guy I don't have a backup for gets injured, or my numer 1 pick gets hurt, while no one else gets any injuries.

Also, apparently, you do have to worry about players getting tired, so backups can matter...

Westlake
02-22-2007, 04:02 PM
I was wondering when someone would get around to picking Gagne.

And I'd rather not have injuries. Knowing my luck, the one guy I don't have a backup for gets injured, or my numer 1 pick gets hurt, while no one else gets any injuries.

Also, apparently, you do have to worry about players getting tired, so backups can matter...

I can imagine a back up catcher... but how tired is my left fielder going to get? Injuries are a part of the game, I dont see whats wrong with at least turning injuries on, even if its at a low level.

Wee Willie
02-22-2007, 04:26 PM
I can imagine a back up catcher... but how tired is my left fielder going to get? Injuries are a part of the game, I dont see whats wrong with at least turning injuries on, even if its at a low level.
I think backup catcher is indeed important, even though I still might wait a couple more rounds.

yanks0714
02-22-2007, 04:28 PM
I was wondering about bench players also. Only 4 slots for bench players. 1 has to be a catcher I would think. Thas leaves 3 players to backup the other 7 positions. I guess it can be done but you would have to have very good versatility among your starting line-up.
In that case I wouldn't want injuries turned on. More than 1 injury could wreck a team.

Westlake
02-22-2007, 05:04 PM
So, is Disgruntled mariner fan on the clock?

ChrisLDuncan
02-22-2007, 05:11 PM
I suppose so

Westlake
02-22-2007, 05:20 PM
Ok, its to Erik Bedard now.

Westlake
02-22-2007, 05:34 PM
This looks somewhat dead.

Erik Bedard
02-22-2007, 05:35 PM
Sorry... something came up. Just need to double-check a few things, and you'll have my pick in a sec.

Erik Bedard
02-22-2007, 05:42 PM
All you awesome people just allowed me to snag the first Canadian of the draft: Fergie Jenkins, 1970

ChrisLDuncan
02-22-2007, 05:48 PM
All you awesome people just allowed me to snag the first Canadian of the draft: Fergie Jenkins, 1970

UGHHHH Damnit, that was one of my "sleepers"

Erik Bedard
02-22-2007, 05:50 PM
Hey, I have nationality rights. :laugh :laugh

ronnie5
02-22-2007, 05:50 PM
All you awesome people just allowed me to snag the first Canadian of the draft: Fergie Jenkins, 1970

It's definitely not the first- Gagne is Canadian. I don't know about everyone else before him though...

Disgruntaledmarinerfan
02-22-2007, 05:50 PM
I guess I got skipped... oh well. I'll take Jose Mesa 2001.

yanks0714
02-22-2007, 05:53 PM
All you awesome people just allowed me to snag the first Canadian of the draft: Fergie Jenkins, 1970

Good pick, Eric.

Westlake
02-22-2007, 05:55 PM
Well AlecBoys time is up as well. I think its Wee Willie's turn if we are skipping him, which i think we should.

-Kyle-
02-22-2007, 05:58 PM
All you awesome people just allowed me to snag the first Canadian of the draft: Fergie Jenkins, 1970
He was another I was considering.

-Kyle-
02-22-2007, 06:00 PM
Well AlecBoys time is up as well. I think its Wee Willie's turn if we are skipping him, which i think we should.
Why don't we just pick a scrap player for him?

Erik Bedard
02-22-2007, 06:00 PM
It's definitely not the first- Gagne is Canadian. I don't know about everyone else before him though...

Any REAL Canadian knows that the Quebecois are not true Canadians, after they tried to secede.... Jenkins is the first REAL Canadian taken.

ChrisLDuncan
02-22-2007, 06:01 PM
Hey guys I'm going to get some dinner quickly, should the draft get to me by the time I get back I give Evan permission to pick in the next round for me.

Westlake
02-22-2007, 06:02 PM
Why don't we just pick a scrap player for him?

Because we never said we would do that. Lets just skip him... he never knows when its his pick, i'm always the one to tell him, and he never picks anyone that is on most of our lists.

Erik Bedard
02-22-2007, 06:03 PM
Except for Bench and Kiner.

Westlake
02-22-2007, 06:05 PM
Except for Bench and Kiner.

Were you thinking about taking Bench in the first round? Doubtful..

-Kyle-
02-22-2007, 06:05 PM
Because we never said we would do that. Lets just skip him... he never knows when its his pick, i'm always the one to tell him, and he never picks anyone that is on most of our lists.
That wasn't meant to be serious...I should've included a smiley.

ronnie5
02-22-2007, 06:06 PM
Any REAL Canadian knows that the Quebecois are not true Canadians, after they tried to secede.... Jenkins is the first REAL Canadian taken.

Well, I'm not a REAL Canadian, I'm just a Texan :cool:

Westlake
02-22-2007, 06:06 PM
That wasn't meant to be serious...I should've included a smiley.


Yeah, I didnt get the reference. I guess my studies are getting to me. :ughh

Minstrel
02-22-2007, 06:07 PM
Okay, if AlecBoy doesn't generally keep track of the draft, no point letting him hold things up.

Westlake
02-22-2007, 06:09 PM
Okay, if AlecBoy doesn't generally keep track of the draft, no point letting him hold things up.

Ok, then Wee Willie is on the clock from the minute of Minstel's post, is that ok?

Erik Bedard
02-22-2007, 06:11 PM
Cool with me.

Erik Bedard
02-22-2007, 06:11 PM
Well, I'm not a REAL Canadian, I'm just a Texan :cool:

Hey, I know a little about Texan history, you should know something about Canadian history!

Wade8813
02-22-2007, 06:15 PM
Hey, I know a little about Texan history, you should know something about Canadian history! Except everyone knows that US > Canada, so you learning a little about Texas makes sense, whereas we have no reason to learn anything about Canada ;)

Erik Bedard
02-22-2007, 06:18 PM
Actually.... most of the world disagrees with you. But I'll shut up now.

BTW, I'm a Canadian from Boston living in Baltimore. Why should I care about Texas? (the answer: so I can understand why Kevin Durant went there instead of UMD)

Erik Bedard
02-22-2007, 06:20 PM
time check.

EDIT: Wee Willie has two minutes.

Westlake
02-22-2007, 06:21 PM
Actually.... most of the world disagrees with you. But I'll shut up now.

BTW, I'm a Canadian from Boston living in Baltimore. Why should I care about Texas? (the answer: so I can understand why Kevin Durant went there instead of UMD)


With my next pick, I'll take the best player in the nation, and soon to be #1 (possibly 2) pick in the NBA draft:

Kevin Durant, 2006-07

Wee Willie
02-22-2007, 06:22 PM
Joe Sewell, 1923

Next pick forthcoming.

Minstrel
02-22-2007, 06:28 PM
With my next pick, I'll take the best player in the nation, and soon to be #1 (possibly 2) pick in the NBA draft:

Kevin Durant, 2006-07

Durant looks like a beast, but I doubt whoever ends up at #1 will dare pass on Greg Oden. Most scouts are comparing him to David Robinson, and you can't pass on that. Robinson is just a slight cut below the greatest centers ever, like Hakeem, Shaq and Wilt.

Erik Bedard
02-22-2007, 06:28 PM
With my next pick, I'll take the best player in the nation, and soon to be #1 (possibly 2) pick in the NBA draft:

Kevin Durant, 2006-07

You take him, I'll take this fella:

JARED DUDLEY

Look at last year's BC team, then look at this year's BC team. Then look at the ACC standings. Dudley is the best player in the best conference in the nation.

Erik Bedard
02-22-2007, 06:29 PM
Durant looks like a beast, but I doubt whoever ends up at #1 will dare pass on Greg Oden. Most scouts are comparing him to David Robinson, and you can't pass on that. Robinson is just a slight cut below the greatest centers ever, like Hakeem, Shaq and Wilt.

I would actually take Durant over Oden right now. And that's saying a lot.

Wee Willie
02-22-2007, 06:30 PM
Second pick: Jimmy Wynn - 1969

Erik Bedard
02-22-2007, 06:33 PM
Thank you all for letting me have what I consider to be the steal of the draft right here: ALBERT BELLE, 1996

And.... I'm out.

Minstrel
02-22-2007, 06:34 PM
Thank you all for letting me have what I consider to be the steal of the draft right here: ALBERT BELLE, 1996

I actually looked at him, thinking he'd be a steal, but ended up putting him behind a few other hitters.