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CarlCaranskiShift
01-28-2007, 12:22 PM
This is part a question, part a rant.

I have only been to a few other ML ballparks besides Coors Field. Dodger Stadium, Candlestick, Pet Co, Angels, and Wrigley. In my opinion, Coors is as nice as any. On a trip to Wrigley last year I was reminded of the biggest difference, the fans.

Colorado fans just aren't as savvy and knowledgeable about baseball as they are elsewhere. The Cubs were 20 games back in the cellar with two weeks to go in the season, and the fans were in on every pitch. I'm not talking just rabid stupidity like you see out of New York, but really into it. I notice in other parks a huge difference in the type of people that go to the games. I know I'm generalizing here, but bear with me.

In Colorado, going to the Rockies games has always been a place to be seen, not watch a ball game. We've all had to endure being seated around a group of 20 somethings, trying to impress their friends, blathering away on cell phones, talking during the entire game about anything but baseball. I also see people taking their very young kids and wives who really have no interest in being there. I've done it myself. After 10+ trips up and down the isle for dip and dots, cotton candy, potty breaks, and to the playground, it's impossible for me, or anyone around me, to watch the game. I've also noticed the worse your seats, the more likely the crowd around you is to be more hard-core baseball fans. Down low is often date night. I just haven't seen this type of Baseball culture to the same degree elsewhere.

The Rockies don't help much either. At Wrigley for example, they aren't incessantly blasting pop dance music through the PA. They don't do the "Da da da da Ta da...Charge!" thing in the 1st inning, they wait until it really matters. There aren't all the silly little graphics and contests on the big screen. It's all about the game. There aren't the distractions, and it forces you to watch the game more closely, and be a better fan. At Dodger stadium, it's part of the culture to bring a radio, not headphones. You can always count on hearing the sultry tones of Vin Scully bouncing around the park. It draws you in, helps you watch and learn. I've tried it at Coors, and I could tell it bugs the others around me. There is just to much PA noise for it to really work.

Maybe it's because we lack the history. Probably part of it. But I think Colorado just doesn?t have a baseball culture. Due in part to the weather, it's just not as big here for kids as it is elsewhere. I would contend that unless you've played the game at some level, it's hard to really appreciate it's complexities.

One thing I would like to see is a grumpy old mans section. They have a "no beer, families only section". How about a place with no dates, wives and kids where you could light up a stogie, drink a beer, swear a little at the umpire, and actually watch a ball game?

Old Sweater
01-28-2007, 05:14 PM
One thing I would like to see is a grumpy old mans section. They have a "no beer, families only section". How about a place with no dates, wives and kids where you could light up a stogie, drink a beer, swear a little at the umpire, and actually watch a ball game?


LOL, Man i hear ya. They open up a grumpy old man section and were bound to meet each other.

I go the true Sweater way most of the time and get Rockpile Seats and twice they have stuck me in the middle of some kids group. Candy Cotton in the ear and a spilled drink in the lap, the whole sheebang.

And I hear you on the fan part. No place can be as bad as Colorado for fans that root for the State they move from. Go to a Cubbies or Dodger game when they are in Denver and you would swear you was seating in Chicago or LA. Wish they were as loyal to their home state as they were to their home team and stay there.

Colorado born and Colorado bred and when I die I'll be Colorado dead.

CarlCaranskiShift
01-28-2007, 06:08 PM
I'm not saying I'm against kids at the ballpark really. It's just $45 seats for a couple of 2 year olds and the wife who really don't want to be there, while said same dad is on the cell phone through most of the game, which by the way probably came late to and left early. Thats $190 just to get in the gates, $20 to park, $100 in food of which half that is dip n dots...just to be seen. I'll waiger the same guy throws about like his wife does. Meanwhile, schmuks like Old Sweater and CaralCaranskishift are sitting in the Rockpile. I for one don't hesitate or feel in the least bit guilty to move down in the nicer sections after a few innings.

Maybe that's the answer. Let's start a movement where the grumpy old men try and congregate in one section, and stake a hold.

I have a little ritual that makes the point. I usually go to the last home game by myself. It's great. I can soak it all in at my own lesure and revel in the glory of baseball. That's when I bring the radio and listen to the game on KOA, grab a couple of dogs and a beer, and just watch, really watch the game. Since most of those end of season games are in pretty low attendance, you can spot the other guys of like mind. 40, 50, 60 year olds that just love the game. They leave the family behind but bring an ancient glove and cap, put on radio head phones, keep score, and still hope to get a flyball. We all notice each other but are embarrased to admit it. I bet in our perspective days you could have fielded a heck of a little league team out of these wrinkled, flabby kids.

See you guys in sec 139, I'll be the one sneaking down after the second inning.

Old Sweater
01-29-2007, 05:26 PM
I usually watch most the game from the main concourse and just sit in the Rockpile once my legs get tired then go back down to the main concourse.

Then of course I wall by the back of the Batters Eye and polish my name on the workers wall...lol.... Only reason I helped built Coors Field. I should get free admission, if it wasn't for me and a apprentice the players would have to jump out of the dugout if I didn't form those 86 ft. long steps.

jwkfs
01-29-2007, 06:04 PM
I for one don't hesitate or feel in the least bit guilty to move down in the nicer sections after a few innings.


We'll usually do the opposite. Buy rockpile tickets, show up during batting practice, and the ushers will let you down into the nice seats. Pick out some good ones. You may have to move once or twice, but by around the 3rd inning everyone should have shown up.
Around the 5th or 6th we'll head out, grab a couple beers and move up to the rockpile.

We pulled this stunt 3 or 4 times last season; I had some of the best seats I've ever had at a game. Once we sat six rows behind the Rockies dugout -- right behind the front row area you have to show your tickets to get into.

My feeling is this -- if the seats are going to be empty, someone who's going to enjoy the game might as well sit there. Still, Rockies tickets -- good tickets -- are a lot less expensive than what you'll pay at some other parks, and I've paid full price before.