Will anyone hit more homeruns than Bonds?

[cashwrapper]

Sorry, double posted by accident.

[cosmo34]

josh gibson is already ahead of him, so I don't care how many bonds hits, he's never gonna be the career leader anyway

[cashwrapper]

Between Pujols and Rodriguez, I think Pujols has the better chance of hitting more home runs than Bonds will by the end of his career. Rodriguez has slowed down considerably, and has admitted himself that he'd be content with retiring without the record. But Pujols is young, and it's probably to soon to tell. Anybody think he has a shot?

[TBT]

Both of them, barring a serious injury, have a good chance of catching Bonds, but the one with 200 more HR has a better chance.

[STLCards2]

Rodriguez started younger (not by much) and has a body more conducive for longevity than Pujols. Pujols has dodged the injury bug for most of his career, but has a billion nagging injuries and health problems. I think Rodriguez is a much more reliable candidate.

[ChrisLDuncan]

Alex Rodriguez possibly...maybe Albert Pujols.

[geezer]

It's between A-Rod and Pujols, and the MIT, no steroid cloud will be around them.

[Yankee Legend]

It's between A-Rod and Pujols, and the MIT, no steroid cloud will be around them.

The same thing was said about Mark Mcgwire 10 years ago. Not to accuse Alex or Pujols but you never know what we'll find out 5-10 years or so from now.

[Paul McCartney]

The most likely outcome in my opinion is that they both end up with more Home Runs than Bonds but it's unlikely that either man plays better than Bonds did in his prime (2001-2004) Out of all the unbelivable stats he produced in those years the one that stands out to me the most is his .600 On-Base Percentage in 2004. Way too much emphasis is put on Bonds' power hitting, thus leading to the steroid talk even though anybody with a brain should be able to see that Bonds is merely a fraction of the countless players that have used performance-enhancing drugs, or broken the rules of the game in anyway. His power isn't even his greatest assest anyway. What makes him great in my eyes is his plate discipline, which ranks as the greatest of all time and is where a huge chunk of his value comes from. For the things stated above I have Barry Lamar Bonds ranked as the number one player in Major Leauge Baseball history, I know I'm in a minority here but all you advanced stat-heads know it is true, but have been brainwashed by the casual steroid perception. Pity.

[ChrisLDuncan]

It's between A-Rod and Pujols, and the MIT, no steroid cloud will be around them.


MIT?????????

[ChrisLDuncan]

The most likely outcome in my opinion is that they both end up with more Home Runs than Bonds but it's unlikely that either man plays better than Bonds did in his prime (2001-2004) Out of all the unbelivable stats he produced in those years the one that stands out to me the most is his .600 On-Base Percentage in 2004. Way too much emphasis is put on Bonds' power hitting, thus leading to the steroid talk even though anybody with a brain should be able to see that Bonds is merely a fraction of the countless players that have used performance-enhancing drugs, or broken the rules of the game in anyway. His power isn't even his greatest assest anyway. What makes him great in my eyes is his plate discipline, which ranks as the greatest of all time and is where a huge chunk of his value comes from. For the things stated above I have Barry Lamar Bonds ranked as the number one player in Major Leauge Baseball history, I know I'm in a minority here but all you advanced stat-heads know it is true, but have been brainwashed by the casual steroid perception. Pity.


Umm...I don't have him one but I have him 4th, due to the fact you can't combine the post 2000 Bonds with the pre-2000 bonds. He was a completely different player at each point in his career. If you could I'd probably have him one.

[Paul McCartney]

you can't combine the post 2000 Bonds with the pre-2000 bonds. If you could I'd probably have him one.
Yes, many others share your opinion Chris. I for one take him at face value and rank him as the greatest because I'm a between the white lines of the leauge guy when it comes to player greatness because everything else is just too damn subjective.

[ChrisLDuncan]

Yes, many others share your opinion Chris. I for one take him at face value and rank him as the greatest because I'm a between the white lines of the leauge guy when it comes to player greatness because everything else is just too damn subjective.


I would argue that greatness is subjective though aswell, however many here share your sentiments.

[Sultan_1895-1948]

The most likely outcome in my opinion is that they both end up with more Home Runs than Bonds but it's unlikely that either man plays better than Bonds did in his prime (2001-2004) Out of all the unbelivable stats he produced in those years the one that stands out to me the most is his .600 On-Base Percentage in 2004. Way too much emphasis is put on Bonds' power hitting, thus leading to the steroid talk even though anybody with a brain should be able to see that Bonds is merely a fraction of the countless players that have used performance-enhancing drugs, or broken the rules of the game in anyway. His power isn't even his greatest assest anyway. What makes him great in my eyes is his plate discipline, which ranks as the greatest of all time and is where a huge chunk of his value comes from. For the things stated above I have Barry Lamar Bonds ranked as the number one player in Major Leauge Baseball history, I know I'm in a minority here but all you advanced stat-heads know it is true, but have been brainwashed by the casual steroid perception. Pity.

Being stronger and quicker with a choked-up-on bat allows you to see each pitch for a split second longer before making a decision to swing or not. Bonds always had a good eye but he was helped in this regard as it relates to steroids. On top of that, he had more than a dozen years of playing experience. Then you have his smaller than normal zone to go with many inexperienced pitchers who lack command. Not a difficult equation to solve.

[GotMelk?]

I think A-Rod has a better chance to break the record and Polus will be very close.

I think Babe Ruth is the greatest player ever. No steriods and he was a dominate pitcher.

[Bench 5]

Paul - Once he went down the long and winding road and became a bona fide Balco bomber, his life became Helter Skelter and he lost a lot of respect, and most people discount his later accomplishments because of it. Even without discounting him due to steroids he is number two in my book behind the Bambino.

I don't think A-Rod or Pujols will break his all-time HR record once he breaks Aaron's record. A-Rod has a decent shot but once he gets older and has some injuries he will slow down.

[Richmond Hill Phoenix]

Rodriguez has slowed down considerably, and has admitted himself that he'd be content with retiring without the record.I read the interview where he said this, and I really don't buy it. Bonds said the same thing last year remember? He said that he was done after last season. Apparently not...

[geezer]

MIT?????????

Most Important Thing

[ChrisLDuncan]

Yes, many others share your opinion Chris. I for one take him at face value and rank him as the greatest because I'm a between the white lines of the leauge guy when it comes to player greatness because everything else is just too damn subjective.


Also my point was that the pre-2000 Bonds was a great lead off hitter the best power/speed combo ever, and an awesome on base presence...not to mention the best defensive LF ever. The post 2000 Bonds wasn't the speedster, still a great walker, not a great defender, but twice the hitter. The pre-2000 Bonds was like a better Rickey Henderson...whereas the post 2000 Bonds was like a better Ted Williams. If you could combine the post 2000 Bonds offense with the pre-2000 Bonds defense, baserunning, than he would probably be the best player ever in my book...I'm not talking about roids at all.

[Paul McCartney]

Most people try to undervalue Bonds because of all the reasons mentioned but I think correctly doing so is rather impossible therefore give him the player evaluation treatment you give all other players even though Bonds is the one and only player in MLB history that has broken the rules to get an advantage:dance, or just don't evaluate him at all. People just appease to become an adherent of the sentimental philosphy.

[DTF955]

Put Barry on the mound every 4th (or 5th, in this case) day, let him twirl a few shutouts and become an excellent lefthanded pitcher, then we'll talk #1of all time. I think that's the point of most of these people, some of whom are even willing to admit he's #2 even with the steroids controversy.

I voted ARod only because he's still playing a harder position, and if the Yankees ever move him to first, which could happen, his numbers might improve some. Plus, as noted, he has a few hundred more home runs. However, it wouldn't surprise me to see both men hit more than Hank Aaron, Barry bonds, and/or both.

[bluezebra]

<b>Will anyone hit more homeruns than Bonds?<b/>

With or without performance-enhancing drugs?

Bob

[Edgartohof]

Will anyone hit more homeruns than Bonds?

I'm pretty sure some one has, someone named Henry Aaron

[bluezebra]

josh gibson is already ahead of him, so I don't care how many bonds hits, he's never gonna be the career leader anyway

(1)..And when did Gibson play Major League Baseball? (2)..And how accurately were the stats kept in the Negroe leagues?

(1)..Never (2)..Not very

Bob

[bluezebra]

...not to mention the best defensive LF ever.

Are you his agent? This is so asinine a statement, it hardly needs to be disputed. How long have you been watching baseball? And how many left fielders have you seen play?

Bob

[Edgartohof]

...not to mention the best defensive LF ever.

Are you his agent? This is so asinine a statement, it hardly needs to be disputed. How long have you been watching baseball? And how many left fielders have you seen play?

Bob


"best defensive LF ever"

means - average CF at best

[Colorado Express]

I don't think either will do it, but I would give the edge to Pujols. The downside for Pujols is playing in better pitching parks in the NL.

[digglahhh]

Bonds was fine LF in his youth. One thing that really helped him, in one respect, was playing on the turf. He didn't have a rocket of an arm, but he had an above average one that was very accurate. He made use of the turf and used to make throws that took quick, but long and accurate hops.

Whoever threw Gibson out there, that's just ridiculous.

Why not throw Oh out there while you're at it.

And then, why not nominate me? Why I remember that between multiple leagues and pick-up game, I might have had single weekends where I hit ten or so...

[EvanAparra]

"best defensive LF ever"

means - average CF at best

No it doesnt. I think Carl Crawford is the best LF in the majors right now, doesnt mean he would be average at best in CF.

[Jermz]

I think eventually Pujols will pass Bonds, but I don't think A-Rod will. He is a great player, one of the greatest around today (as much as I hate to admit it), but I would predict he will retire when he hits about 37 or 38 years old, and I don't see him averaging much more than 35 a year for the rest of his career.

Pujols has a great chance to do it, but in my opinion, so does Andruw Jones. I think by the time they stop playing, the all-time HR leader will be either Pujols or Andruw.

[Charger567]

I would definately say, if anyone, Pujols.

Jermz, A Rod is a year older and has 100 more home runs.

[Monarch]

First, I would like to state Josh Gibson and Sadarah Oh.

I recently saw in the local newspaper the projected number of home runs for some of baseballs top stars today. Albert Pujols led the parade with 874 career home runs. I wish I could remember A-Rod's numbers, but I think it was in the 600's. Of course it is all relative and just kind of fun to look at, but maybe the all-time home run king is currently playing t-ball or Little League somewhere, yet to be drafted.

[ChrisLDuncan]

"best defensive LF ever"

means - average CF at best


Well not exactly in CF you can get a clear read on the ball, whereas in left it's harder to get the jump on the ball. It usually requires less athletisim, and not the arm that right does...but you need to have better OF eyes to play it on the same level as CF

[John Shoemaker]

I think A-Rod has a better chance to break the record and Polus will be very close.

I think Babe Ruth is the greatest player ever. No steriods and he was a dominate pitcher.

I agree Babe Ruth was the greatest player ever. No one again will ever hit over 700 home runs while batting over .340 and also win over 90 games pitching with an era of 2.28. We can argue all day about who is the second best player ever but Ruth is far and away the best.

[concept2complex]

Albert Pujols

[four tool]

Josh's 900 HRs include everything he ever hit, negro leagues, latin american play, barnstorming against ML, etc. So to be fair, we'd have to add Ruth's spring training and barnstorming HRS to get a "real comparison".

I said ARod because I also wonder about Albert's health over the long haul.