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Honus Wagner Rules
01-26-2007, 07:43 PM
Get well Nolan!
Nolan Ryan hospitalized, team says he's in good condition
January 26, 2007
ROUND ROCK, Texas (AP) -- Hall of Fame pitcher Nolan Ryan was hospitalized Friday and in good condition with an undisclosed ailment, his son said.
The 59-year-old strikeout king checked into Round Rock Medical Center for treatment of recurring symptoms from a pre-existing medical condition, Reid Ryan said.
Reid Ryan declined to specify the condition, but said it was discovered when his father had double-bypass heart surgery in 2000.
"This is something I've lived with for the last seven years," Nolan Ryan said in a statement.
His son said it was not an emergency.
"He takes medication for it," Reid Ryan said. "From time to time, he has episodes that require him to get checked out when he has pain or something. He's feeling good. This is more about taking precautions."
Ryan was to be transferred to a Houston hospital for further evaluation, said a spokesman for the Round Rock Express, one of the minor league teams the former pitcher owns.
Ryan struck out 5,714 and pitched seven no-hitters -- both major league records -- in 27 years with the New York Mets, the California Angels, the Houston Astros and the Texas Rangers.
He retired in 1993 and was elected to the Hall of Fame in 1999.
Ryan is a majority owner of Triple-A Round Rock and the Double-A Corpus Christi Hooks, both affiliates of the Astros.
His son said it was not an emergency.
"He takes medication for it," Reid Ryan said. "From time to time, he has episodes that require him to get checked out when he has pain or something. He's feeling good. This is more about taking precautions."
Well that's certainly good to hear.
LouGehrig
01-28-2007, 12:28 PM
Ryan, Clemens, and Bonds. Is there a common thread?
sds416
01-28-2007, 12:58 PM
Ryan, Clemens, and Bonds. Is there a common thread?
You sir, disgust me with that comment. There is no proof of anything with regards to Nolan Ryan and steroids. Nor is there any proof regarding Roger Clemens and illegal substances. Its about damn time that those who run this forum stop letting people smear those who are innocent (remember the whole innocent until proven guilty concept).
LouGehrig
01-28-2007, 02:34 PM
You sir, disgust me with that comment. There is no proof of anything with regards to Nolan Ryan and steroids. Nor is there any proof regarding Roger Clemens and illegal substances. Its about damn time that those who run this forum stop letting people smear those who are innocent (remember the whole innocent until proven guilty concept).
Perhaps you should examine your own inferences. My statement merely asks if a common thread exists. Me thinks the man protests too much.
milladrive
01-28-2007, 03:12 PM
Perhaps you should examine your own inferences. My statement merely asks if a common thread exists.
Good point, Lou.
Anyway, glad to hear he's in good condition.
I recall Ryan appearing in some TV ads for an arthritis medication. Without speculating too deeply, is arthritis something that can become bad enough to warrant a hospital emergency? Just curious.
sds416
01-28-2007, 03:20 PM
Perhaps you should examine your own inferences. My statement merely asks if a common thread exists. Me thinks the man protests too much.
Remarkable reply.
What exactly were you inferring or attempting to infer then?
Be honest, don't come back with some choir boy act. You know damn well what you meant, why not just be a man about it, stand up and say it, instead of hiding behind some act? What kind of coward just sits behind the keyboard like a typical internet queen?
I think it probably is because you know all to well that you have nothing on Mr. Ryan. Not one thing. The same for Mr. Clemens. Show me a failed drug test, show me grand jury testimony, show me sworn statements given to authorities that will stand up in court. You know you can't, so instead of dealing in the truth and fact, you sit there taking pot shots through thinly hidden accusations, in some pathetic attempt to smear someone.
Nothing more than cowardice.
sds416
01-28-2007, 03:31 PM
Good point, Lou.
Anyway, glad to hear he's in good condition.
I recall Ryan appearing in some TV ads for an arthritis medication. Without speculating too deeply, is arthritis something that can become bad enough to warrant a hospital emergency? Just curious.
Nolan did ads for Advil. Some use it for mild arthritis pain, those with more severe pain often are given other, stronger, meds to help deal with its symptoms.
Arthritis can attack many things, including the lungs, which could create a situation where emergency hospitalization would be required.
http://arthritis.about.com/od/rheumatoidarthritis/a/rheumatoidlung.htm
This link describes the relationship between rheumatoid arthritis and rheumatoid lung disease. Unlike Rheumatoind Arthritis that impacts a persons joints (which is not cureable but its impact can be managed to a certain degree), rheumatoid lung disease has NO effective treatment at all. It is a gruesome illness, which I hope Mr. Ryan is not suffering from.
milladrive
01-28-2007, 03:39 PM
Nolan did ads for Advil. Some use it for mild arthritis pain, those with more severe pain often are given other, stronger, meds to help deal with its symptoms.
Arthritis can attack many things, including the lungs, which could create a situation where emergency hospitalization would be required.
http://arthritis.about.com/od/rheumatoidarthritis/a/rheumatoidlung.htm
This link describes the relationship between rheumatoid arthritis and rheumatoid lung disease. Unlike Rheumatoind Arthritis that impacts a persons joints (which is not cureable but its impact can be managed to a certain degree), rheumatoid lung disease has NO effective treatment at all. It is a gruesome illness, which I hope Mr. Ryan is not suffering from.
Thank you much for that info. I do hope Nolan's condition hasn't reached such a serious point.
I hope we soon hear about the true nature of his problem, whatever it may be, and that he regains his full health.
hiddengem
01-28-2007, 03:46 PM
When I played for the Express(The team he is part owner of, and the team is son is the president of) in 2000 he was walking around the concourse with his wife at the stadium and started to feel the oncomings of a heart attack. He was rushed to the hospital where a double bypass was performed. So, now he gets regular checkups and if he feels something out of the ordinary he doesn't hesitate to have tests ran to make sure everything is fine. This was the case here.
hiddengem
01-28-2007, 03:47 PM
Ryan, Clemens, and Bonds. Is there a common thread?
Common thread about what?
milladrive
01-28-2007, 04:41 PM
When I played for the Express(The team he is part owner of, and the team is son is the president of) in 2000 he was walking around the concourse with his wife at the stadium and started to feel the oncomings of a heart attack. He was rushed to the hospital where a double bypass was performed. So, now he gets regular checkups and if he feels something out of the ordinary he doesn't hesitate to have tests ran to make sure everything is fine. This was the case here.
Wow, perhaps I hadn't kept up on those current events at the time, but I never knew he had a heart condition. I'm sure all of our fingers are crossed for his long and healthy life.
Old Sweater
01-28-2007, 04:48 PM
Ryan, Clemens, and Bonds. Is there a common thread?
I think you watch to many soaps during the day Lou.
Trying to slap Ryan like that. Shame on you!
LouGehrig
01-28-2007, 05:42 PM
Remarkable reply.
What exactly were you inferring or attempting to infer then?
Be honest, don't come back with some choir boy act. You know damn well what you meant, why not just be a man about it, stand up and say it, instead of hiding behind some act? What kind of coward just sits behind the keyboard like a typical internet queen?
I think it probably is because you know all to well that you have nothing on Mr. Ryan. Not one thing. The same for Mr. Clemens. Show me a failed drug test, show me grand jury testimony, show me sworn statements given to authorities that will stand up in court. You know you can't, so instead of dealing in the truth and fact, you sit there taking pot shots through thinly hidden accusations, in some pathetic attempt to smear someone.
Nothing more than cowardice.
1. Some self examination on your part is necessary. Why did you NOT include Bonds in the above?
2. Since you seem to think you know what I am thinking, you should be able to discover the common thread to which I refer.
VTSoxFan
01-28-2007, 05:46 PM
Here's an idea: How about confining the discussion in this thread to Nolan Ryan's health?
brewcrew82
01-28-2007, 05:47 PM
2. Since you seem to think you know what I am thinking, you should be able to discover the common thread to which I refer.
All played/are playing well into their 40's? I don't see what this has to do with Nolan's health but still.
cubsfan1073
01-28-2007, 05:54 PM
Here's an idea: How about confining the discussion in this thread to Nolan Ryan's health?
What a terrible idea, I mean look at the title of the thread: Nolan Ryan hospitalized! That clearly states we must argue with one another about steroids and Nolan Ryan.
sds416
01-28-2007, 06:03 PM
1. Some self examination on your part is necessary. Why did you NOT include Bonds in the above?
2. Since you seem to think you know what I am thinking, you should be able to discover the common thread to which I refer.
Mr. Bonds failed a test for a performance enhancing substance this past season, albeit, not steroids. That is a FACT. Therefore I excluded him, not on the basis of steroids but other performance enhancing and barred substances.
Get over yourself already, you took a shot at someone without having any merit to do it on, and got bitch slapped for it.
milladrive
01-28-2007, 06:15 PM
What a terrible idea, I mean look at the title of the thread: Nolan Ryan hospitalized! That clearly states we must argue with one another about steroids and Nolan Ryan.
lol
In Lou's defense, I must admit that nowhere does he imply anything other than a potential common thread between the three players. It has been in the replies to his comment where people may have oversensitively misinterpreted what he meant.
Of course, though, as brewcrew has pointed out, unless Lou's implication has something to do with a commonality of whatever health issue Nolan's enduring, then I fail to see how it belongs in this thread.
Lou, as far as I'm concerned, any clues to what you actually meant would be appreciated, but I agree with VTSF in that if it doesn't have anything to do with Nolan Ryan being hospitalized or what he may be enduring, it would probably be more appropriate if you began another thread with that different theme in mind.
As it stands, I continue to hope for Nolan's clean bill of health. For as long as I've been an admirer, I've seen him as a good sportsman and a true gentleman. We're pullin' for ya, Nolan.
LouGehrig
01-28-2007, 06:25 PM
Thank you Milladrive.
The first response my reply received included the principle that one is innocent until it can be proven, beyond a reasonable doubt, otherwise.
Many common threads exist between and among Ryan, Clemens, and Bonds.
The most valid thread is that they all did as well, if not better, after the age of 35. All have been stars into their forties, and the relevance to Ryan's health is that it is ironic that he could be so strong and healthy most of his career and then have more health problems in his fifites than most average individuals the same age.
How interesting to note the emotions Barry Bonds elicits.
If anyone wants to conclude that being involved in cheating is a common thread among Ryan, Clemens, and Bonds, one has the right to that conclusion, and one has the right to recognize that he or she may be wrong--or right.
LouGehrig
01-28-2007, 06:27 PM
Mr. Bonds failed a test for a performance enhancing substance this past season, albeit, not steroids. That is a FACT. Therefore I excluded him, not on the basis of steroids but other performance enhancing and barred substances.
Get over yourself already, you took a shot at someone without having any merit to do it on, and got bitch slapped for it.
Too bad you can't be perceptive when it matters.
milladrive
01-28-2007, 07:53 PM
From what I could ascertain, Nolan was expected to be released from the hospital yesterday (Saturday). Can anyone confirm if he indeed was?
Elvis
01-28-2007, 09:14 PM
From what I could ascertain, Nolan was expected to be released from the hospital yesterday (Saturday). Can anyone confirm if he indeed was?
Yes. :lookitup
http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/5391131.html
Mattingly
01-29-2007, 06:56 AM
To forumers sds416 and LouGehrig:
Please return this thread to discussion about Nolan Ryan's health. If there's anymore lockerroom type of put-downs, a few folks here may not be too happy. In fact, a few days to cool off may be warranted. Not to be taken lightly, if you don't mind.
LouGehrig
01-29-2007, 10:03 AM
Dear Mattingly,
Please indicate what I have posted that has led to your statement in the above post.
I have asked if a connection exists between Ryan, Clemens, and Bonds.
I have NOT posted anything that is pejorative.
I have, after some assumptions were made, indicated that there is a connection between the three. All have had great seasons late in their careers and are among the few who have had, well into their forties (Barry after age 35), better seasons than when they were young.
You know, better late than never. In the cases of Ryan, Clemens, and Bonds, it is better old than young.
I also connected the posts to the irony that Ryan, one of the sturdiest of all pitchers in baseball history, has had the misfortune of suffering serious health problems after he has retired.
So, dear Mattingly, please point out what in MY posts, is troubling.
Thank you.
Mattingly
01-29-2007, 10:19 AM
LouGehrig:
It was primarily sds416's posts that I found fault with. However, whenever I point out only one person's post, the accused automatically says, "Well, what about the other guy?" In this case, you happen to be the other guy.
I doesn't matter to me who was involved. I believe in asking all to cease and desist, regardless of whether it was their posts that were considered hostile. In your case, I do not consider your posts in this thread to have hostile.
While I'm not too crazy about linking Ryan, Clemens and Bonds, I can see your being "called" on that matter. However, I believe that this could've been done in a more formidable manner than the lockerroom fashion in which sds416 went about things.
Hopefully, things will return to the Nolan Ryan discussion. If anyone has much more to say that's related more to their posts than Nolan Ryan himself, please send me a PM and be patient for a reply.
Thx.
LouGehrig
01-29-2007, 10:33 AM
Dear Mattingly,
You are classy as always.
Mattingly
01-29-2007, 10:36 AM
Dear Mattingly,
You are classy as always.
Thank you. I do my best, but obviously can't satisfy everyone. Either case, please carry on about Nolan Ryan.
Hall of Fame pitcher Ryan 'feeling great' (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2745273)