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E.Banks#14
01-10-2007, 05:49 PM
I was going through Baseball Reference today and came across the 1984 Expos roster. That team had 10 future major league managers or coaches: Terry Francona (manager - BOS), Tim Raines (1st Base Coach - CHW), Pete Rose (manager - CIN), Chris Speier (most recently 3rd Base Coach - CHC), Randy St. Claire (Pitching Coach - WSH), Tim Wallach (Hitting Coach - LAD), Razor Shines (3rd Base Coach in 2007 - CHW), Bobby Ramos (Bullpen Coach - TB), Wallace Johnson (3rd Base Coach - CHW), and Sal Butera (Bullpen Coach - TOR).

Along with 9 others who went on to work for major and minor league teams.

- Andre Dawson now works in the Marlins front office as a Special Assistant to the President.
- Gary Carter was a TV broadcaster for the Marlins. He also managed the Mets' A affiliate St. Lucie Mets last year, but declined a promotion this offseason and is likely out of a job.
- Max Venable is the hitting coach for the Padres' minor league affiliate Fort Wayne Dragons.
- Mike Ramsey managed in the minor leagues since 1991 (may have stopped after 2003, I can't find any data after that).
- Tom Lawless managed in the minor leagues, most recently with the Orioles' High-A minor league affiliate Frederick Keys in 2004, and is now the Orioles minor league infield/baserunning instructor.
- Ron Johnson is the manager of Boston Red Sox' AAA affiliate Pawtucket Red Sox.
- Bryn Smith was the pitching coach for Angels' minor league affiliate Salt Lake Stingers in 2005.
- Joe Hesketh is the pitching coach at the University of Buffalo, his alma mater.
- Gary Lucas has been a minor league pitching coach, most recently with Twins' AA affiliate New Britain Rock Cats last year.
- Fred Breining is a private pitching coach. :rolleyes:

Does anyone know of any other teams full of future coaches?

s.f.
01-10-2007, 11:39 PM
I was going through Baseball Reference today and came across the 1984 Expos roster. That team had 10 future major league managers or coaches: Terry Francona (manager - BOS), Tim Raines (1st Base Coach - CHW), Pete Rose (manager - CIN), Chris Speier (most recently 3rd Base Coach - CHC), Randy St. Claire (Pitching Coach - WSH), Tim Wallach (Hitting Coach - LAD), Razor Shines (3rd Base Coach in 2007 - CHW), Bobby Ramos (Bullpen Coach - TB), Wallace Johnson (3rd Base Coach - CHW), and Sal Butera (Bullpen Coach - TOR).

Along with 9 others who went on to work for major and minor league teams.

- Andre Dawson now works in the Marlins front office as a Special Assistant to the President.
- Gary Carter was a TV broadcaster for the Marlins. He also managed the Mets' A affiliate St. Lucie Mets last year, but declined a promotion this offseason and is likely out of a job.
- Max Venable is the hitting coach for the Padres' minor league affiliate Fort Wayne Dragons.
- Mike Ramsey managed in the minor leagues since 1991 (may have stopped after 2003, I can't find any data after that).
- Tom Lawless managed in the minor leagues, most recently with the Orioles' High-A minor league affiliate Frederick Keys in 2004, and is now the Orioles minor league infield/baserunning instructor.
- Ron Johnson is the manager of Boston Red Sox' AAA affiliate Pawtucket Red Sox.
- Bryn Smith was the pitching coach for Angels' minor league affiliate Salt Lake Stingers in 2005.
- Joe Hesketh is the pitching coach at the University of Buffalo, his alma mater.
- Gary Lucas has been a minor league pitching coach, most recently with Twins' AA affiliate New Britain Rock Cats last year.
- Fred Breining is a private pitching coach. :rolleyes:

Does anyone know of any other teams full of future coaches?

The world champion '64 Cardinals:

Managers -- Bob Skinner, Ken Boyer, Roger Craig, (the other) Joe Morgan
General managers -- Dal Maxvill
League presidents -- Bill White, Curt Flood (commissioner of the fall over-35 league that played for a season or two in the '80s).
Coaches -- Include Bob Gibson, Johnny Lewis. Others including Lou Brock did instructional work.
National network broadcasters -- Tim McCarver, Bob Uecker
Other broadcasters -- Mike Shannon (over 35 years as a voice of the Cardinals), Gibson, Flood, Dick Groat (in basketball)
Team physicians -- Ron Taylor

Brian McKenna
01-11-2007, 07:47 AM
Not too many such jobs to be had in baseball for the guys who played even well into the 20th century.