TwinsCards
12-28-2006, 05:39 AM
Hello all,
I run the TwinsCards.com (http://www.twinscards.com)website and am trying to find some information on some cards that I just got. The information I have found so far seems to be limited at best and often contradicting.
The information I'm looking for is regarding THESE CARDS (http://twinscards.com/viewcardscategorydetail.php?catnum=1968%20Sertoma) .
The 2006 SCBC lists this set as 1977 Sertoma Stars. My research is indicating that this set is possibly from 1968. There was a separate 1977 Sertoma Stars set that included a Bernie Allen and Harmon Killebrew card. We have an example of the the Bernie Allen (http://twinscards.com/viewtwinkiescategorydetail.php?catnum=1977%20Serto ma%20Stars)card (courtesy of jakre) in our autograph section. As you can see, these are two very different sets.
The reason I suspect these cards are not from 1977 is the player checklist provided by SCBC. Unlike the 1977 "Stars" set, all the players are from the same era and many of the players were no longer playing in 1977. The cards contained local advertising on the back and I suspect that local advertisers would want current ballplayers on the cards and not guys who had been retired for several years. For instance, Bob Allison retired in 1970, Killebrew (1975), Oliva (1976) and Roseboro (1971). Just a hunch here, but thinking the 1977 reference in SCBC is incorrect. I have found a few references on the web referring to 1968 or sometimes 1960's Sertoma.
The other reason I suspect that this set is not from 1977 is this that I received from another resource,
There is an article about the 1977 set in the 5/25/77 issue of SCD. Here is what they say, "The Southside Indianapolis Sertoma Club sponsored a 25 card set for the Indianapolis Sports Collectors Convention in late February. Cards were printed on yellow stock with the player photos in a 2-1/2" diameter circle in black and white as all printing except the name of the player and words "Sertoma Stars". SCD then lists the cards in the set. Most of the players selected had an "Indiana" tie. Allen was from Purdue, and Killebrew played for the Indianapolis Indians. Don Buford and Dom Dallessandro are pictured in their Indianapolis Indians uniforms.
Why would they mention just one set if there were two? I don't know, but it just doesn't add up for me. To make things even more confusing, Beckett lists the "other" 1977 set in their 2006 Almanac and on their website, but not the set in question. I have a contact at Beckett who says they have nothing in their database except the set already listed.
Searches on eBay show these cards listed as 1977, 1968 and 1960's. Does anyone have any further information on these cards? Thanks
Blake
I run the TwinsCards.com (http://www.twinscards.com)website and am trying to find some information on some cards that I just got. The information I have found so far seems to be limited at best and often contradicting.
The information I'm looking for is regarding THESE CARDS (http://twinscards.com/viewcardscategorydetail.php?catnum=1968%20Sertoma) .
The 2006 SCBC lists this set as 1977 Sertoma Stars. My research is indicating that this set is possibly from 1968. There was a separate 1977 Sertoma Stars set that included a Bernie Allen and Harmon Killebrew card. We have an example of the the Bernie Allen (http://twinscards.com/viewtwinkiescategorydetail.php?catnum=1977%20Serto ma%20Stars)card (courtesy of jakre) in our autograph section. As you can see, these are two very different sets.
The reason I suspect these cards are not from 1977 is the player checklist provided by SCBC. Unlike the 1977 "Stars" set, all the players are from the same era and many of the players were no longer playing in 1977. The cards contained local advertising on the back and I suspect that local advertisers would want current ballplayers on the cards and not guys who had been retired for several years. For instance, Bob Allison retired in 1970, Killebrew (1975), Oliva (1976) and Roseboro (1971). Just a hunch here, but thinking the 1977 reference in SCBC is incorrect. I have found a few references on the web referring to 1968 or sometimes 1960's Sertoma.
The other reason I suspect that this set is not from 1977 is this that I received from another resource,
There is an article about the 1977 set in the 5/25/77 issue of SCD. Here is what they say, "The Southside Indianapolis Sertoma Club sponsored a 25 card set for the Indianapolis Sports Collectors Convention in late February. Cards were printed on yellow stock with the player photos in a 2-1/2" diameter circle in black and white as all printing except the name of the player and words "Sertoma Stars". SCD then lists the cards in the set. Most of the players selected had an "Indiana" tie. Allen was from Purdue, and Killebrew played for the Indianapolis Indians. Don Buford and Dom Dallessandro are pictured in their Indianapolis Indians uniforms.
Why would they mention just one set if there were two? I don't know, but it just doesn't add up for me. To make things even more confusing, Beckett lists the "other" 1977 set in their 2006 Almanac and on their website, but not the set in question. I have a contact at Beckett who says they have nothing in their database except the set already listed.
Searches on eBay show these cards listed as 1977, 1968 and 1960's. Does anyone have any further information on these cards? Thanks
Blake