Future of the NYY, from BaseballAmerica.com

[ChrisLDuncan]

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[Alvin6688]

I found this info on www.baseballamerica.com and I thought it was really interesting, if a bit too into the future.

NYY TOP-10 PROSPECTS:
1. Philip Hughes, RHP
2. Jose Tabata, OF
3. Dellin Betances, RHP
4. Joba Chamberlain, RHP
5. Ian Kennedy, RHP
6. Chris Garcia, RHP
7. Tyler Clippard, RHP
8. J. Brent Cox, RHP
9. Mark Melancon, RHP
10. Brett Gardner, OF

Not including the 3 guys from Detroit:
Humberto Sanchez RHP
Kevin Whelan RHP
Anthony Claggett RHP

BEST TOOLS:
Best Hitter for Average ---------------- Jose Tabata
Best Power Hitter --------------------- Shelly Duncan
Best Strike-Zone Discipline ------------ Brett Gardner
Fastest Baserunner ------------------- Brett Gardner
Best Athlete ------------------------- Tim Battle
Best Fastball ------------------------- Joba Chamberlain
Best Curveball ------------------------ Philip Hughes
Best Slider --------------------------- J. Brent Cox
Best Changeup ----------------------- Tyler Clippard
Best Control -------------------------- Philip Hughes
Best Defensive Catcher --------------- Francisco Cervelli
Best Defensive Infielder --------------- Ramiro Pena
Best Infield Arm ---------------------- Marcos Vechionacci
Best Defensive Outfielder ------------- Tim Battle
Best Outfield Arm --------------------- Seth Fortenberry

PROJECTED 2010 LINE-UP (No Trades/Signings):
Catcher------------------------------ Francisco Cervelli
First Base---------------------------- Eric Duncan
Second Base------------------------- Robinson Cano
Third Base--------------------------- Alex Rodriguez
Shortstop---------------------------- Derek Jeter
Left Field----------------------------- Melky Cabrera
Center Field-------------------------- Johnny Damon
Right Field---------------------------- Jose Tabata
Designated Hitter--------------------- Bobby Abreu

No. 1 Starter------------------------- Philip Hughes
No. 2 Starter------------------------- Chien-Ming Wang
No. 3 Starter------------------------- Dellin Betances
No. 4 Starter------------------------- Joba Chamberlain
No. 5 Starter------------------------- Ian Kennedy
Closer-------------------------------- Mark Melancon

Nice line-up and sick rotation if things go decently. I know 2010 is a long way off, but it was the only projection I could find on the baseballamerica.com website.

They didn't include the three guys just brought in from Detroit. Sanchez would probably be #3 on the Top-10 list. Whelan is competition for the closer spot after Mariano retires, and Claggett could be a solid set-up guy.

Hopefully, we can add a Zambrano (30) or a Santana (30) to that rotation. Surely one ace will make it to free-agency between now and 2010 - and we'd better sign him. By 2010, Wang will be making good money off us if he holds up, and Hughes may be paid in the millioins as well (I'd lock him up before the turn of the decade). Still, it's a very inexpensive rotation of young people, so we'd be able to afford paying large amounts to an experienced ace.

ROTATION BY 2009:
(with Trades/Signings)
1. Zambrano/Santana/Ace
2. Philip Hughes
3. Chien-Ming Wang
4. Joba Chamberlain
5. Dellin Betances

BULLPEN:
(could include)
Humberto Sanchez (Closer?)
Mark Melacon
Kevin Whelan
Ian Kennedy
Chris Garcia
J.Brent Cox
Jeff Karstens
Darrell Rasner
Brian Bruney
Chris Britton
Scott Proctor
Mariano Rivera (if still with us)

Also, I thought I'd just stick this in, for those of you who like pretending to plan ahead:

2008 FREE AGENTS:
1. John Smoltz (41)
2. Michael Young (31)
3. Carlos Zambrano (27)
4. Joe Nathan (33)
5. Mariano Rivera (38)
6. Chris Carpenter (33)
7. Jorge Posada (36)
8. Curt Schilling (41)
9. Bobby Abreu (34)
10. Ichiro Suzuki (34)
11. Andruw Jones (31)
12. Carlos Guillen (32)
13. Jeff Kent (40)
14. Mike Lowell (34)
15. Vernon Wells (29)
16. Jason Jennings (29)
17. Jake Westbrook (30)
18. Ivan Rodriguez (36)
19. Trevor Hoffman (40)
20. Freddy Garcia (32)
21. Kenny Rogers (43)
22. Torii Hunter (32)
23. Jason Isringhausen (35)
24. Omar Vizquel (41)
25. Marcus Giles (30)
26. Eric Byrnes (32)
27. Paul Lo Duca (36)
28. Bob Wickman (39)
29. Corey Patterson (28)
30. Adam Dunn (28)
31. Randy Johnson (44)
32. Scott Linebrink (31)
33. Doug Davis (32)
34. Michael Barrett (31)
35. Milton Bradley (30)
36. Jon Lieber (38)
37. David Eckstein (33)
38. Aaron Rowand (30)
39. Juan Uribe (29)
40. Bartolo Colon (35)

Wow. Compared to this lousy year, the '08 list is stacked. Hopefully, the good pitchers aren't ALL locked-up by the time we can bribe them over to New York.

[Murderer's Row]

Randy Johnson is a free agent then! We won't have to worry about him no more!:clapping

[farmsystem]

In terms of FA pitchers from the list, I wouldn't say it's stacked. I definitely would go with the good young players not because I prefer a good mix of young players and veterans but also to free up money to sign a real ace starter or two. I'm not the biggest fan of Zambrano but I think the Cubs might lock him up. If Santana continues to dominate then he would be worth the long term contract if he is even available when he becomes a FA.

[cmaff05]

That lineup and rotation is a big pipedream.

[Mattingly]

It seems like we definitely need more top LHPs on our farm roster. While it's great that we've got a good amount of righties, a few southpaws could always turn those switch hitters around and force teams to juggle their lineup. This could also help out the pen if we decide to bring in a reliever who pitches from either arm.

[YankeePhan123]

The roster is hypothetical. For anyone knows, half of these guys could be traded, released, or retire. The roster does sound good, but i think the we are relying too much on young players. I know that everyone thinks that after the Marlins did what they did that young guys can do anything. But most of the time young prospects that are called up struggle for the better part of a year. Look at Lastings Milledge, when Floyd was injured everyone thought that he would get a lot of p-time and he would do great, he did hit for some power and got a decent amount of RBIs but he only batted .220.

[CoachMJ]

That lineup and rotation is a big pipedream.

captain obvious.

[cmaff05]

captain obvious.


Hey, Hey. :laugh

Alot of these prospects won't pan out. That's just the nature of the beast, unfortunately. I wish all our prospects could pan out, but it's likely that pretty much 75%+ of these prospects are not going to pan out. Probably even more.

[Mariano_Rivera]

Hey, it may not be realistic but it's fun stuff to look at. more funt han it used to be. Hughes has a good Curve so he`ll have to rely on K's and not walking people. Looks like he has fantastic control and definitely gets the K's.

[Charger567]

How did Wang move from ace to #3 just as he hits his prime?

[Mariano_Rivera]

How did Wang move from ace to #3 just as he hits his prime?
First of all a players prime is usually 26-28. He moves to two because BA thinks Hughes is the next Roger Clemens or something like that

[DoubleX]

First of all a players prime is usually 26-28. He moves to two because BA thinks Hughes is the next Roger Clemens or something like that

I went into the Red Sox forum last offseason and cautioned them about annoiting Jonathan Papelbon the next Roger Clemens, so I'm going to have to say the same here about Philip Hughes. The fact that the Yankees have been ultra cautious with Hughes really concerns me - I wonder if he'll have the stamina and durability to go deep into games and into the season. I fear that he'll have troubles staying on the field like Rich Harden or Mark Prior. If I were the Yankees, I'd work on Hughes' stamina instead of holding him back with strict pitching counts and IP totals - they need to see if he can handle a bigger workload, and if he has troubles now, that's not going to project well for the Majors.

[Evangelion]

Most teams have "babied", as I like to see, with their pitchers in the minor league. Boston did the exact same thing with Lester. They probably did it with Papelbon as well, though not sure. Most teams are very careful, especially with high level prospect they think could fit in their rotation in the future. If Hughes had injury history, then you should worry. I would let the pitcher say in a game for 5 or 6 innings, depending on pitch count, in the minors, because cautious doesn't help them develop further. Don't over work them, but don't be too cautious with them that it seem they're not pitching that much.

[Mariano_Rivera]

I went into the Red Sox forum last offseason and cautioned them about annoiting Jonathan Papelbon the next Roger Clemens, so I'm going to have to say the same here about Philip Hughes. The fact that the Yankees have been ultra cautious with Hughes really concerns me - I wonder if he'll have the stamina and durability to go deep into games and into the season. I fear that he'll have troubles staying on the field like Rich Harden or Mark Prior. If I were the Yankees, I'd work on Hughes' stamina instead of holding him back with strict pitching counts and IP totals - they need to see if he can handle a bigger workload, and if he has troubles now, that's not going to project well for the Majors.

I said that was what BA thought not me ;)

BTW Can we combine this thread witht he "Down on the Farm" thread?

[ChrisLDuncan]

It seems like we definitely need more top LHPs on our farm roster. While it's great that we've got a good amount of righties, a few southpaws could always turn those switch hitters around and force teams to juggle their lineup. This could also help out the pen if we decide to bring in a reliever who pitches from either arm.

That's why I say we either trade for the D-Train or pick up Zito.

We also need to start grooming a replacement for Posada.