CKL 1964 Free Agent Auction

[leecemark]

--Welcome to the final phase of player acquisition for the 1964 CKL season. The free agent auction will commence at 8PM EST tomorrow, Friday Novemebr 17. The six forced free agents will be auctioned off in the live portion, one at a time, in the following order;

1) Ernie Broglio to Gold Sox @ 1.5M/1?
2) George Altman to Diablos @ 500k/1?
3) Bill Monbouquette to Legends @ 2.5M/2
4) Juan Pizzaro to Hard Cider @ 9.75m/3?
5) Brooks Robinson to Gold Sox @ 18M/5
6) Eddie Mathews to Stingers @ 8.5M/4

--All remaining players active in 1964 and not currently on a roster will be on the block immediately following the live auction. Bidding will be open and unstructured until 9PM EST on Monday, November 20. At that time a list of the leading bids wiil be posted and for the last hour of the auction teams will be limited to one bid (a single player) per post to the wrapup at 10PM.
--As a reminder, player signed for 4.75M or less may be signed to a minium 1 year/maximum 3 year deal. Players signed for 5-7.75M may be signed to 2-4 year deals. Players signed for 8M or more get 3-5 year deals.
--Attached are current team rosters and free agent batting and pitching lists.

[leecemark]

--Everyone please make sure your payroll is up to date and post it here, along with the number of players under contract. For example, The Knights are at 78.75M for 35 players. Setting aside minimum wage for 4 spots I could (although I won't) bid up to 20.25M on a player.

[ElHalo]

I either have 28 players at $80 mill, or 29 at $80.25, depending on whether you counted my last draft pick I made last night. I WILL be here at 8:00 east.

[mac195]

I have 28 players at $74.50M and may pick one or two more if I get the chance before the auction. I won't be here for the auction itself, but will leave some bids with Mark.

[Erik Bedard]

I'm at 36 players for 45.25M :eek:.

Though the number of players will get considerably lower by next season...

[538280]

I'm at 72.75M for 30 players.

[catcher24]

Legends are at 63M for 25 players.

[leecemark]

--Players drafted since the free agent list was posted: Chico Ruiz, Masanori Murakami and John Purdin. Cross them off your wish list if they were on it.
--Knights are now at 79M for 36 players.

[leecemark]

--BBF time is, as usual, running about 20 minutes late. The auction will commence at 5 after the hour by my time, which should at least be the top of the hour by whatever time you might be looking at:D . That will be 24 minutes from this post. Hope that is alright with everyone.

[Erik Bedard]

I'm here, so Mark, you can disregard my proxy.

[ElHalo]

Present. Looking forward to it.

[Erik Bedard]

8:06 by my time...

[catcher24]

Jim - Check your PMs.

[leecemark]

--I'm here and have proxies for the Hard Cider and Shoeless Joes.

[ElHalo]

Here, and trade to be announced shortly.

[catcher24]

Legends are present and accounted for!:waving

[ElHalo]

Legends and Diablos have a trade to be shortly confirmed.

Diablos send a '65 second round draft pick and a '66 first round draft pick to the Legends. Legends return the favor with third baseman Jim Ray Hart.

Confirm?

I'll post this on the offseason thread too, but as it takes me out of the bidding for the 3Bmen, it might be relavent to some people's strategies here.

[leecemark]

--Okay first on the block is Ernie Broglio. Ernie doesn't have alot left in the tank, but he can help out in the back of someones rotation. Let the bidding begin!

[leecemark]

--The Shoeless Joes bid 500K

[Erik Bedard]

Ok, 750k....

[catcher24]

Legends confirm Jim Ray Hart goes to the Diablos for their 1965 second round pick and their 1966 first round pick.

[Wasp]

The Stingers are at 51.25 million for 37 players.

[ElHalo]

$1 m on Broglio.

[catcher24]

This now puts me at 62M for 24 players.

[leecemark]

--The Knights, Joes and Hard Cider all withdraw from the bidding on Broglio.

[ElHalo]

And me at $81.25 mill for 30 players.

[leecemark]

1M going once on Broglio

[Erik Bedard]

Gold Sox bid 1.25M.

[leecemark]

1.25 going once

[Wasp]

The Stingers withdraw from bidding on Broglio.

[ElHalo]

Pass on Broglio.

[leecemark]

1.25M going twice

[catcher24]

Legends pass on Broglio also.

[leecemark]

--Ernie Broglio signs with the Gold Sox for 1.25M.

[Erik Bedard]

He'll get a one-year deal. Works for me, I really needed pitching help.

[leecemark]

--Next up is George Altman. George has been a good player, but he is just looking for a spot on somebodies bench at this point.

[leecemark]

So, how long do I have him for?

--Players signed for less than 5M can be signed for 1-3 years at the owners option. 5-7.75M is 2-4 and 8M or more is a 3-5 year deal.

[Erik Bedard]

Gold Sox pass on Altman.

[ElHalo]

$.5 on Altman.

[leecemark]

--The Joes, Hard Cider and Knights all pass on Altman. Anyone have an interest?

[catcher24]

And as far as the Legends are concerned, he'll be looking elsewhere.;)

[leecemark]

--I think minimum would have done it, but 500K going once.

[Wasp]

The Stingers pass on Altman.

[leecemark]

500K going twice

[ElHalo]

--I think minimum would have done it, but 500K going once.
I usually start out with .5 under the assumption that somebody's already posted a .25 bid while I was typing. No great loss.

[leecemark]

--Altman goes to the Diablos for 500k.

[catcher24]

Gavel this one down, Mark. I think the Diablos have him!

[ElHalo]

Ready for the next one?

[leecemark]

--Next on our menu is Bill Monboquette. Bill's best years are behind him as well, but he still has some appeal as an innings eater.

[Erik Bedard]

.25 on Monbo.

[Wasp]

.75 on Monboquette.

[ElHalo]

$1.5 mill on Monbouquette.

[catcher24]

2 million on Monbo.

[Erik Bedard]

Gold Sox withdraw.

[Wasp]

2.25 million on Monboquette.

[leecemark]

--Knights, Cider and Joes pass

[catcher24]

2.5 million on Monbo.

[ElHalo]

Pass.......

[leecemark]

--Now its getting a little livier.

[Wasp]

The Stingers pass on Monboquette.

[catcher24]

Wait for the last two!! Thank God I have Santo and won't have to partake in the festivities!:clapping

[leecemark]

2.5M going once

[leecemark]

2.5M going twice

[leecemark]

--Monboquette signs with the Legends for 2.5M.

[leecemark]

--Next up Juan Pizzaro. Pizzaro is a stud this season, but many observers think he could be a health risk over the life of his contract.

[ElHalo]

$4.75 M on Pizzaro.......

[Erik Bedard]

Gold Sox bid 5.25M.

[leecemark]

--The Hard Cider open at 9.75M

[catcher24]

The Legends will sign Bill Monbouquette to a two year contract.

Legends management states: "Bill has been a workhouse for the past few years and we feel he can continue to be an innings eater for our staff. We look forward to having him on our team."

[leecemark]

--Well I guess they didn't open, but they may have ended

[ElHalo]

--The Hard Cider open at 9.75M

I was positive nobody would go past one year. Three?

[Erik Bedard]

Gold Sox could probably go higher, but withdraw.

[ElHalo]

The Legends will sign Bill Monbouquette to a two year contract.

Legends management states: "Bill has been a workhouse for the past few years and we feel he can continue to be an innings eater for our staff. We look forward to having him on our team."

If I knew Pizzaro would be getting a three year deal, I think I might have gone a LOT higher on Monbouquette.

[Wasp]

I guess the Stingers will withdraw.

[leecemark]

--Pizzaro was a tough one to figure and I'm glad I didn't come into this desparate for pitching. He is worth 10M or more this season, but bidding that means you are paying that for a long reliever/spot starter for 2 more. I might have gone as high as 7.75 and bought out the 2nd year, but Mac went the extra mile.

[ElHalo]

Diablos are done on Pizzaro, and because of the Hart trade, are done for the evening.

[leecemark]

9.75 going once

[leecemark]

9.75 going twice....anybody flush with cash and desparate for a front line starter?

[catcher24]

Posted by Jim:
I was positive nobody would go past one year. Three?

I think I smell a three year contract, with a buyout coming next season. No way I envision Mac actually shelling out 9.75M for guy who throws 97 innings with a 1.37 WHIP. Still an awful lot to pay for one season!

[leecemark]

--Okay then, Pizzaro goes to the Hard Cider at 9.75M.

[leecemark]

--Okay, now we move to the biggest star on the block tonight. Gentlemen breakout your checkbooks and make an offer to Brooks Robinson.

[catcher24]

9.75M!! Can't believe it! Anybody got a couple of first rounders they want to swap for Marichal?:D He's only at 10.75M!;)

[leecemark]

--The Shoeless Joes offer 10.25M.

[Erik Bedard]

Gold Sox open at 10.25M.

[Erik Bedard]

OK, then, 10.5.

[catcher24]

As I said previously, thank God for Ron Santo!!:clapping :clapping

[Wasp]

The Stingers will open up at 13M.

[leecemark]

--The Joes and Hard Cider pass. The Knights bid 12.25M.

[catcher24]

Boy, this could get ugly.

[Erik Bedard]

I have a grand total of zero third basemen, so I'm going all out on Robinson. And I happen to have the most available cash, so I suggest you all give up right now.

[leecemark]

--Okay, the Knights pass too.

[Erik Bedard]

17M on Robinson.

[Wasp]

17.5 million for Robinson.

[Erik Bedard]

18M on Brooksie.

[leecemark]

--Max, you still in this one?

[leecemark]

--Guess so:D

[Wasp]

The Stingers will pass on Robinson.

[leecemark]

18M going once

[catcher24]

Boy, Hart probably looks pretty good now for some draft picks - at 1 million in 64, and only 3.5M by the end of the contract!

[leecemark]

18M going twice

[Erik Bedard]

Still, this huge contract, along with Broglio, will barely get me over the 60M mark. :D

[catcher24]

I feel a pretty hefty bid coming up on old Eddie Mathews now! Still got some real decent seasons left in the old body.

[leecemark]

Boy, Hart probably looks pretty good now for some draft picks - at 1 million in 64, and only 3.5M by the end of the contract!


--Even with iron glove vs gold one, I'd rather have Hart and the difference in salary. That said, I had budgeted up to 17M on Robinson before making the Boyer deal.

[ElHalo]

Boy, Hart probably looks pretty good now for some draft picks - at 1 million in 64, and only 3.5M by the end of the contract!

You're not kidding. I think I feel as good about Hart as you must have felt about Monbouquette after the Pizzaro signing.

[leecemark]

--Brooks Robinson signs with the Gold Sox at 18M per season.

[Erik Bedard]

OK, Gold Sox withdraw from the Mathews bidding.

[catcher24]

Actually, Hart is an average fielder range wise, although his error rating was a tad high. But after Brooksies 64 MVP season, Hart is better offensively every year and a LOT cheaper! The Boyer trade was an excellent one for you, Mark.

[leecemark]

--Last up in the live auction is Eddie Mathews. Eddie is slowing down a little, but still brings alot of pop to the 3B spot on a 3 year deal.

[catcher24]

Yeah, I couldn't believe I got Monbo for 2.5M. I was ready to go quite a bit higher.

[Wasp]

I'll start at 5 million.

[leecemark]

Actually, Hart is an average fielder range wise, although his error rating was a tad high. But after Brooksies 64 MVP season, Hart is better offensively every year and a LOT cheaper! The Boyer trade was an excellent one for you, Mark.

--It was great for 64, but he is strictly a rental. I won't be paying him 9M for his 91 OPS+ next year. Still a 4M platoon of Gilliam and Wert doesn't look too bad for 65 all things considered.

[ElHalo]

Yeah, I couldn't believe I got Monbo for 2.5M. I was ready to go quite a bit higher.

I was thinking of giving him a run, but felt sure that nobody would be willing to give Pizzaro a multi-year deal. Oh well; just have to pick up some really cruddy innings eater for the back of the rotation.

[leecemark]

--The Shoeless Joes bid 6.5M

[leecemark]

--The Knights go 6.75. The Joes and Cider pass.

[Wasp]

The Stingers bid 6.75 million.

[ElHalo]

--It was great for 64, but he is strictly a rental. I won't be paying him 9M for his 91 OPS+ next year. Still a 4M platoon of Gilliam and Wert doesn't look too bad for 65 all things considered.

Mark;

Where can I find the rules on contract buyouts? Is it in the rules thread?

[catcher24]

Still a 4M platoon of Gilliam and Wert doesn't look too bad for 65 all things considered


That should work out OK for you.

[Wasp]

Okay, 7.5 million.

[catcher24]

Jim - It should be in the rules thread, but here's a copy of that section (Section 4, Sub. F):

F. Players on multi-year contracts may have the remainder of their deal bought out for one half of the total remaining value of the contract during the non-tender perod. For example, a player on a 3 year/10M per year deal could have the 2nd and 3rd years bought out for a 10M cap hit in year 2 or a 5M cap hit in year 3.

If you're wondering, it would cost Mac 9.75M (assuming a three year deal) to buy out the last two years, or 5M (rounding up to stay with 250K increments) to buy out just the third year, by my calculations.

[leecemark]

7.75m...........

[Erik Bedard]

Gold Sox announce that Brooks Robinson will receive an unprecedented 5 year, 90 million dollar contract.

[ElHalo]

Jim - It should be in the rules thread, but here's a copy of that section (Section 4, Sub. F):

F. Players on multi-year contracts may have the remainder of their deal bought out for one half of the total remaining value of the contract during the non-tender perod. For example, a player on a 3 year/10M per year deal could have the 2nd and 3rd years bought out for a 10M cap hit in year 2 or a 5M cap hit in year 3.

If you're wondering, it would cost Mac 9.75M (assuming a three year deal) to buy out the last two years, or 5M (rounding up to stay with 250K increments) to buy out just the third year, by my calculations.


That's what I thought. Heck of a price to pay for one year of a guy.

[Wasp]

8 million for him.

[catcher24]

And the Legends announce that Ron Santo is having a conniption fit because of Robinson's contract.:grouchy

[leecemark]

Jim - It should be in the rules thread, but here's a copy of that section (Section 4, Sub. F):

F. Players on multi-year contracts may have the remainder of their deal bought out for one half of the total remaining value of the contract during the non-tender perod. For example, a player on a 3 year/10M per year deal could have the 2nd and 3rd years bought out for a 10M cap hit in year 2 or a 5M cap hit in year 3.

If you're wondering, it would cost Mac 9.75M (assuming a three year deal) to buy out the last two years, or 5M (rounding up to stay with 250K increments) to buy out just the third year, by my calculations.

--Basically Mac would be paying Pizzaro 19.5M for one season, but paying it out over 2 years. Pizzaro is very good in 64, but not THAT good IMO. He does shield Norm Cash, but Cash isn't worth 19.5M either.

[leecemark]

--The Knight bid 8.25

[Erik Bedard]

Is it too late to give Callison the franchise tag?

[leecemark]

--He is not eligible. Only your first pick in the 64 or 65 rookie draft is eligible for the tag.

[leecemark]

8.25M going once

[catcher24]

Posted by Jim:
That's what I thought. Heck of a price to pay for one year of a guy.

Agreed. Mac and I were within an eyelash of him getting Juan Marichal from me. His top three rotation members would've been Koufax, Marichal and Bunning. Over the next three years the WORST season any of them has is Jim Bunning in 1964 - 132 ERA+, 1.03 WHIP, 284 IP.

[Wasp]

The Stingers bid 8.5M.

[Erik Bedard]

Ah, OK. So I'll just have to bid 10M on some bad player, or not finish third to keep him.

[leecemark]

--8.5M going once

[catcher24]

Posted by Mark:
Basically Mac would be paying Pizzaro 19.5M for one season, but paying it out over 2 years. Pizzaro is very good in 64, but not THAT good IMO.

Maybe it's just me, but I think you'd need an absolutely incredible season to be worth 19.5M, and Pizarro isn't even close in 1964. If he was the final piece for a title, maybe, but Mac has enough guns left to go all the way without him.

[leecemark]

Ah, OK. So I'll just have to bid 10M on some bad player, or not finish third to keep him.


--I think Callison is your 2nd highest paid eligible player. Davis contract expires after 1964 so he wouldn't be included in the slotting. Either way, I don't think a finish that high in your first season is a problem to dwell on.

[leecemark]

8.5M going twice

[Erik Bedard]

And there's no way I'll have to give up Robinson, not with the Skipjacks around.

[leecemark]

--Any last minute bidders on a future Hall of Fame thirdbaseman?

[catcher24]

Posted by Dan:
And there's no way I'll have to give up Robinson, not with the Skipjacks around.

And I wouldn't be forgetting about the Hard Cider, Knights, Cannons and Redbirds. I thought I had a really good team last year, but they ALL finished ahead of me.

[leecemark]

--Eddie Mathews signs with the Stingers at 8.5M.

[catcher24]

Congrats, Max! Don't know if Mathews' next three or four years are worth quite that much, but they are good seasons.

[Wasp]

The Stingers sign Eddie Mathews for 4 years at 8.5M.

[Erik Bedard]

--Any last minute bidders on a future Hall of Fame thirdbaseman?

I've got my own, thank you. :D

[leecemark]

And I wouldn't be forgetting about the Hard Cider, Knights, Cannons and Redbirds. I thought I had a really good team last year, but they ALL finished ahead of me.


--I think the Redbirds are in for a rough season. Its rebuilding time for them. I'd be surprised if any of last years playoff teams slip before the expansion squads though. The Diablos and Gamblers both look like they are ready to step up this season too. All three new teams will be much better than the doormats and one of them might challenge for the wild card, but none is likely to lose oneof their highest paid players.

[Wasp]

Congrats, Max! Don't know if Mathews' next three or four years are worth quite that much, but they are good seasons.

I figured I should win at least one player.

[leecemark]

Congrats, Max! Don't know if Mathews' next three or four years are worth quite that much, but they are good seasons.

--If I had known he'd go so cheap (although I don't know how high Max might have gone) I wouldn't have made the Boyer deal. At less than half the price of Robinson I'd say Eddie was a bargain. I was almost ready to go to 12.25 even with Boyer to shield Billy Williams for 1965, but decided against it mid-auction.

[catcher24]

Posted by Mark:
but none is likely to lose oneof their highest paid players.

Agreed 100%. And with the Skipjacks, Knights and Hard Cider (and the Cannons in the wings), no way they'll lose their highest paid player.

[leecemark]

--Feel free to make bids on any unsigned player now. The secondary auction will run through 10PM next Monday. I'm very interested to see just how overpaid some of these leftovers are going to be.

[catcher24]

OK, can I post my secondary free agent bids now?

[Erik Bedard]

Gold Sox go 5M on Ray Sadecki.

[leecemark]

The Knights opening bids;
Del Crandell 1M
Jimmy Piersall 1M
Tom Butters 1M
Bo Belinsky 1M

[catcher24]

Well, Mark answered before I got it posted.

The Legends make the following free agent offers:

Billy Bryan - 250K

Frank Thomas - 250K

Jimmy Stewart - 250K

Phil Linz - 250K

Clete Boyer - 250K

Andre Rodgers - 250K

Jimmy Piersall - 1.25M

Jackie Brandt - 250K

Ty Cline - 250K

Doug Clemens - 250K

Bo Belinsky - 1.25M

Rollie Sheldon - 250K

Howie Reed - 250K

Billy Hoeft - 250K

Joe Moeller - 250K

[Erik Bedard]

Gold Sox go 2M on Belinsky.
250K on Tracy Stallard.
250K on Bob Hendley.

[catcher24]

Legends bid 2.25M for Belinsky.

[Erik Bedard]

2.5M on Belinsky.

[leecemark]

4.75 on Belinsky
1.50 on Piersall

[catcher24]

1.75M on Piersall

[catcher24]

CURRENT BIDS:

Bo Belinsky 4.75M Knights

Clete Boyer 250K Legends

Jackie Brandt 250K Legends

Billy Bryan 250K Legends

Tom Butters 1M Knights

Doug Clemens 250K Legends

Ty Cline 250K Legends

Del Crandell 1M Knights

Billy Hoeft 250K Legends

Phil Linz 250K Legends

Joe Moeller 250K Legends

Jimmy Piersall 1.75M Legends

Howie Reed 250K Legends

Andre Rodgers 250K Legends

Ray Sadecki 5M Gold Sox

Rollie Sheldon 250K Legends

Tracy Stallard 250K Gold Sox

Jimmy Stewart 250K Legends

Frank Thomas 250K Legends

[catcher24]

I've got to go soon, Mark, but I'll try to get that list updated in the morning and keep it relatively current.

[Erik Bedard]

Gold Sox go 5M on Ray Sadecki.

Missed one, Lew.

[catcher24]

Yup, I had gone back to double check. I found it and came on to edit my post when I saw yours! Thanks for keeping me accurate!:atthepc

[catcher24]

Bob Heffner 250K

[leecemark]

--Piersall 4.75M

[catcher24]

Galen Cisco 250K

[catcher24]

OK, that was fun. This is the best part - drafting and FA auction. See you all tomorrow!

[538280]

Sadecki 5.25
Hoeft .5
Cisco .5

[ElHalo]

Hank Fischer $0.25
Jack Fisher $0.25
Bob Heffner $0.25
Bob Hendley $0.25
Tracy Stallard $0.5

[leecemark]

Heffner and Hendley already have minimum bids/

[mac195]

--Basically Mac would be paying Pizzaro 19.5M for one season, but paying it out over 2 years. Pizzaro is very good in 64, but not THAT good IMO. He does shield Norm Cash, but Cash isn't worth 19.5M either.
I'm very pleased to get Pizarro for $9.75M. I needed another SP for '64, and he was by far the best availible. Not only does he shield Cash but Bunning as well. And since the Hard Cider are basically set for '65, I can easily afford the buyout.

[ElHalo]

Heffner and Hendley already have minimum bids/

You're right; I didn't notice. My mistake.

Heffner, $0.5
Hendley, $0.5
Bill Bruton, $0.5
Joe Cunningham, $0.25
Jesse Gonder, $0.25

[leecemark]

--Pizzaro was definately the best pitcher on the market. I thought I had the 2nd best team before tonight, but you adding Pizzaro dropped me down to a likley third. I just hope that operating on a 90M cap next year handicaps you enough to switch that around.

[mac195]

Maybe it's just me, but I think you'd need an absolutely incredible season to be worth 19.5M, and Pizarro isn't even close in 1964. If he was the final piece for a title, maybe, but Mac has enough guns left to go all the way without him.
Even with Pizarro I'm still with everybody else this year - in the Skipjacks wake. They should be an absolute juggernaut. My chances at the title improve from very slim to slim. Without Pizarro, I would certainly have been behind Mark as well in regular season victories - in 3rd place at best. And a 3rd place finish would have cost me Bunning. Adding Pizarro at 9.75 should at least keep the core of the team together one more year, and who knows, I could get lucky in the playoffs.

[jkc32]

The Joe's are at 34 players for $75.75M.

[mac195]

Tom Butters - 4.75M

[jkc32]

The Shoeless Joe's bid $250K on Jerry Grote.

[baseballPAP]

Having been the lucky benefit of the wake of call-offs for the anticipated overtime involved with missing the OSU?"that team up north" game, I managed to get screwed out of a second phase of this thing. Yippeeeeee.

However, I doubt I'd have made much of a run at any of the 6 guys anyway, and with my bottom feeding budget, I'll be staying out of much of the bidding here as well.

For now though, I'll bump Cline, Clete Boyer and Bo Belinsky all a cool quarter mill. up.

[leecemark]

--Robinson was the only guy in this market that could have really helped a rebuilding effort. Couple of others could have made the rebuilding year a little less painfull though.
--With Belinsky and Butters now in multi-year contract territory, the Knights move on to secondary targets;
Ryne Durne 500K
Gary Bell 500K

[catcher24]

Well, Mac, if your intention was to cover Bunning and Cash as well as use Pizarro for the 64 season, I can agree with that. I overpaid Schwall last year to protect Freehan, so I can appreciate that move.

And Scott, I got your 250K bid increases on the players (the master list will be up very shortly, soon as I update my bids). But in order to avoid any questions later on, or perhaps someone skimming the thread quickly to see a current bid on a player, could you please list the amount of your bid for each player, rather than the increase over a previous bid? That makes it easier for everyone, I think. Thanks, and I appreciate it!;)

[catcher24]

Now I'll post new bids on some players, then the master list will go up with my increases included.

Clete Boyer 1.75M

Ty Cline 750K

Billy Hoeft 750K

Bob Heffner 750K

Galen Cisco 1.75M

[catcher24]

CURRENT BIDS:

I believe these are accurate as of this posting. If you find any errors or omissions, please post same. Thanks!

Bo Belinsky 5M Redbirds

Gary Bell 500K Knights

Clete Boyer 1.75M Legends

Jackie Brandt 250K Legends

Bill Bruton 500K Diablos

Billy Bryan 250K Legends

Tom Butters 4.75M Hard Cider

Galen Cisco 1.75M Legends

Doug Clemens 250K Legends

Ty Cline 750K Legends

Del Crandell 1M Knights

Joe Cunningham 250K Diablos

Ryne Durne 500K Knights

Hank Fischer 250K Diablos

Jack Fisher 250K Diablos

Jesse Gonder 250K Diablos

Jerry Grote 250K Shoeless Joes

Bob Heffner 750K Legends

Bob Hendley 500K Diablos

Billy Hoeft 750K Legends

Phil Linz 250K Legends

Joe Moeller 250K Legends

Jimmy Piersall 4.75M Knights

Howie Reed 250K Legends

Andre Rodgers 250K Legends

Ray Sadecki 5.25M Cannons

Rollie Sheldon 250K Legends

Tracy Stallard 500K Diablos

Jimmy Stewart 250K Legends

Frank Thomas 250K Legends

[Erik Bedard]

6M on Sadecki
.75 on Stallard
.75 on Duren
.75 on Bell

[leecemark]

Duren 4.75M

[538280]

Sadecki 6.25
Cisco 2
Sheldon .5
Bell 1
Cline 1

[leecemark]

Gary Bell 1.5

[Erik Bedard]

Cisco 2.5
Sadecki 7
Bell 2.25

[leecemark]

--Didn't see the bidding war developing on Sadecki. He did win 20 games in 64, but he looks pretty average to me - and horrible next year. He is going to make the 9.75 on Pizzaro seem like a bargain:eek: .

[Erik Bedard]

He can eat some innings for four years, unlike Pizzaro. He's also pretty decent three of those four years, and decent again a couple years later. Though I wouldn't pay him more than 10M.

[538280]

Gary Bell 3M

[538280]

--Didn't see the bidding war developing on Sadecki. He did win 20 games in 64, but he looks pretty average to me - and horrible next year. He is going to make the 9.75 on Pizzaro seem like a bargain:eek: .

Pitching is very scarce for my team this year. A guy who can pitch 220 innings at even a decent level is worth quite a bit to me.

[Erik Bedard]

Same here.

3.25 on Bell.

[catcher24]

Ty Cline 1.25M

Rollie Sheldon 750K

Galen Cisco 2.75M

[catcher24]

CURRENT BIDS:

I believe these are accurate as of this posting. If you find any errors or omissions, please post same. Thanks!

Bo Belinsky 5M Redbirds

Gary Bell 3.25M Gold Sox

Clete Boyer 1.75M Legends

Jackie Brandt 250K Legends

Bill Bruton 500K Diablos

Billy Bryan 250K Legends

Tom Butters 4.75M Hard Cider

Galen Cisco 2.75M Legends

Doug Clemens 250K Legends

Ty Cline 1.25M Legends

Del Crandell 1M Knights

Joe Cunningham 250K Diablos

Ryne Duren 4.75M Knights

Hank Fischer 250K Diablos

Jack Fisher 250K Diablos

Jesse Gonder 250K Diablos

Jerry Grote 250K Shoeless Joes

Bob Heffner 750K Legends

Bob Hendley 500K Diablos

Billy Hoeft 750K Legends

Phil Linz 250K Legends

Joe Moeller 250K Legends

Jimmy Piersall 4.75M Knights

Howie Reed 250K Legends

Andre Rodgers 250K Legends

Ray Sadecki 7M Gold Sox

Rollie Sheldon 750K Legends

Tracy Stallard 750K Gold Sox

Jimmy Stewart 250K Legends

Frank Thomas 250K Legends

[leecemark]

Gary Bell 3.5

[538280]

Sadecki 7.25
Cline 1.5
Sheldon 1.5
Hoeft 1

[Edgartohof]

Del Crandall - 1.5

[Erik Bedard]

Sadecki 7.5
Hendley .75
Bell 3.75

[leecemark]

Crandell 2M
Bell 5M

[catcher24]

CURRENT BIDS:

I believe these are accurate as of this posting. If you find any errors or omissions, please post same. Thanks!

Bo Belinsky 5M Redbirds

Gary Bell 5M Knights

Clete Boyer 1.75M Legends

Jackie Brandt 250K Legends

Bill Bruton 500K Diablos

Billy Bryan 250K Legends

Tom Butters 4.75M Hard Cider

Galen Cisco 2.75M Legends

Doug Clemens 250K Legends

Ty Cline 1.5M Cannons

Del Crandell 2M Knights

Joe Cunningham 250K Diablos

Ryne Duren 4.75M Knights

Hank Fischer 250K Diablos

Jack Fisher 250K Diablos

Jesse Gonder 250K Diablos

Jerry Grote 250K Shoeless Joes

Bob Heffner 750K Legends

Bob Hendley 750K Gold Sox

Billy Hoeft 1M Cannons

Phil Linz 250K Legends

Joe Moeller 250K Legends

Jimmy Piersall 4.75M Knights

Howie Reed 250K Legends

Andre Rodgers 250K Legends

Ray Sadecki 7.5M Gold Sox

Rollie Sheldon 1.5M Cannons

Tracy Stallard 750K Gold Sox

Jimmy Stewart 250K Legends

Frank Thomas 250K Legends

[baseballPAP]

Wow...looks like the Redbirds are going to be BAD this year, with nearly every player worth anything is being severely overbid by the new kids on the block....

The Redbirds up the bids on the following.....
Bell-3.75M
Brandt-500K
C.Boyer-2M
B.Bryan-750K
Fisher-1.25M
Joe Gibbon 250K
Stallard 1.5M

I'll also announce the intention of making nearly every player on the team available. The new players need only be youngish and cheapish....draft picks also exceptable, but I don't have any interest in taking 2 or 3 later round picks for a good player...

[leecemark]

--Bell already has a 5M bid by one of the old kinds on the block.

[538280]

Sadecki 8M

[Erik Bedard]

Sadecki 8.25M
Bell 5.25M

[leecemark]

Howie Reed 500K

[Edgartohof]

Frank Thomas 500K
Howie Reed 1M
Del Crandell 2.25M

[mac195]

Teams that did not land Brooks Robinson or Eddie Mathews can still get a decent 3Bman for 1964. PM me with an offer for Rich Rollins. I'm not looking for much.

[538280]

Sadecki 9M

[Erik Bedard]

Oh, man, that might be too much for me. I'll just have to concentrate on Bell.

[catcher24]

CURRENT BIDS:

I believe these are accurate as of this posting. If you find any errors or omissions, please post same. Thanks!

Bo Belinsky 5M Redbirds

Gary Bell 5.25M Gold Sox

Clete Boyer 2M Redbirds

Jackie Brandt 500K Redbirds

Bill Bruton 500K Diablos

Billy Bryan 750K Redbirds

Tom Butters 4.75M Hard Cider

Galen Cisco 2.75M Legends

Doug Clemens 250K Legends

Ty Cline 1.5M Cannons

Del Crandell 2.25M Pirates

Joe Cunningham 250K Diablos

Ryne Duren 4.75M Knights

Hank Fischer 250K Diablos

Jack Fisher 1.25M Redbirds

Joe Gibbon 250K Redbirds

Jesse Gonder 250K Diablos

Jerry Grote 250K Shoeless Joes

Bob Heffner 750K Legends

Bob Hendley 750K Gold Sox

Billy Hoeft 1M Cannons

Phil Linz 250K Legends

Joe Moeller 250K Legends

Jimmy Piersall 4.75M Knights

Howie Reed 1M Pirates

Andre Rodgers 250K Legends

Ray Sadecki 9M Cannons

Rollie Sheldon 1.5M Cannons

Tracy Stallard 1.5M Redbirds

Jimmy Stewart 250K Legends

Frank Thomas 500K Pirates

[jkc32]

Shoeless bids...

Clete Boyer $2.25M
Gary Bell $5.5M
Howie Reed $1.25M
Hank Fischer $500K
Joe Gibbon $500K

[mac195]

Ray Sadecki 9M Cannons

Wow.

Ty Cline 1.75
Billy Hoeft 1.25
Andre Rodgers .50

[Edgartohof]

Gary Bell 6M
Jesse Gonder 500K
Andre Rogers 500K

[leecemark]

Del Crandell 4.75M
Howie Reed 2M

[mac195]

Gary Bell 6M
Jesse Gonder 500K
Andre Rogers 500K

I already bid 500K for Rodgers.

[Edgartohof]

I already bid 500K for Rodgers.

Sorry, missed that

Rogers 750 K

[baseballPAP]

Joe Gibbon 750K

[jkc32]

Gary Bell $6.25M
Howie Reed $2.25M
Joe Gibbon $1M

[catcher24]

CURRENT BIDS:

I believe these are accurate as of this posting. If you find any errors or omissions, please post same. I will try to get one more posted about 8:45PM this evening.

Bo Belinsky 5M Redbirds

Gary Bell 6.25M Shoeless Joes

Clete Boyer 2.25M Shoeless Joes

Jackie Brandt 500K Redbirds

Bill Bruton 500K Diablos

Billy Bryan 750K Redbirds

Tom Butters 4.75M Hard Cider

Galen Cisco 2.75M Legends

Doug Clemens 250K Legends

Ty Cline 1.75M Hard Cider

Del Crandell 4.75M Knights

Joe Cunningham 250K Diablos

Ryne Duren 4.75M Knights

Hank Fischer 500K Shoeless Joes

Jack Fisher 1.25M Redbirds

Joe Gibbon 1M Shoeless Joes

Jesse Gonder 500K Pirates

Jerry Grote 250K Shoeless Joes

Bob Heffner 750K Legends

Bob Hendley 750K Gold Sox

Billy Hoeft 1.25M Hard Cider

Phil Linz 250K Legends

Joe Moeller 250K Legends

Jimmy Piersall 4.75M Knights

Howie Reed 2.25M Shoeless Joes

Andre Rodgers 750K Pirates

Ray Sadecki 9M Cannons

Rollie Sheldon 1.5M Cannons

Tracy Stallard 1.5M Redbirds

Jimmy Stewart 250K Legends

Frank Thomas 500K Pirates

[leecemark]

Ty Cline 2M

[The Dude]

Bob Lillis-.25m
Roy McMillan-.25m
Bill Cowan-.25m
Ed Kranepool-.25m
Mike Hershberger-.25m
Duke Snider-.25m
Nelson Mathews-.25m

Current roster is 82 million for 28 players.

[leecemark]

--Ruiz went in the rookie draft and Piersall has a bid of 4.75M.

[catcher24]

Mark - Are we using BBF time for the auction tonight? Based on the one hour time limit, I think we almost have to, so that everyone has the same time and we know when the 9PM single player bid starts and when 10PM hits so the auction is over.

[leecemark]

--The closing time we will need to use BBF time so there is no confusion or controversy about the last acceptable bid on a player. The single bid per post will start as soon as we get the next update posted.

[leecemark]

--According to my tracking, these are the current top bids. From this point forward bids are limited to a single player per post.


Gary Bell 6.25M Shoeless Joes
Clete Boyer 2.25M Shoeless Joes
Hank Fischer 500K Shoeless Joes
Joe Gibbon 1M Shoeless Joes
Jerry Grote 250K Shoeless Joes
Howie Reed 2.25M Shoeless Joes

Jackie Brandt 500K Redbirds
Bo Belinsky 5M Redbirds
Billy Bryan 750K Redbirds
Jack Fisher 1.25M Redbirds
Tracy Stallard 1.5M Redbirds

Bill Bruton 500K Diablos
Joe Cunningham 250K Diablos

Tom Butters 4.75M Hard Cider
Billy Hoeft 1.25M Hard Cider

Galen Cisco 2.75M Legends
Doug Clemens 250K Legends
Bob Heffner 750K Legends
Phil Linz 250K Legends
Joe Moeller 250K Legends
Jimmy Stewart 250K Legends

Ty Cline 2M Knights
Del Crandell 4.75M Knights
Ryne Duren 4.75M Knights
Jimmy Piersall 4.75M Knights

Jesse Gonder 500K Pirates
Andre Rodgers 750K Pirates
Frank Thomas 500K Pirates

Bob Hendley 750K Gold Sox

Ray Sadecki 9M Cannons
Rollie Sheldon 1.5M Cannons

Bob Lillis-.25m Gamblers
Roy McMillan-.25m Gamblers
Bill Cowan-.25m Gamblers
Ed Kranepool-.25m Gamblers
Mike Hershberger-.25m Gamblers
Duke Snider-.25m Gamblers
Nelson Mathews-.25m Gamblers

[Wasp]

Rollie Sheldon 1.75M

[jkc32]

Is this the calm before the storm?!?!

[catcher24]

Yup, this is it. Wait until about 9:50PM. It goes crazy!:crazy

[mac195]

I expect so.

[catcher24]

This is my updated list. Players are listed alphabetically.

Bo Belinsky 5M Redbirds

Gary Bell 6.25M Shoeless Joes

Clete Boyer 2.25M Shoeless Joes

Jackie Brandt 500K Redbirds

Bill Bruton 500K Diablos

Billy Bryan 750K Redbirds

Tom Butters 4.75M Hard Cider

Galen Cisco 2.75M Legends

Doug Clemens 250K Legends

Ty Cline 2M Knights

Bill Cowan 250K Gamblers

Del Crandell 4.75M Knights

Joe Cunningham 250K Diablos

Ryne Duren 4.75M Knights

Hank Fischer 500K Shoeless Joes

Jack Fisher 1.25M Redbirds

Joe Gibbon 1M Shoeless Joes

Jesse Gonder 500K Pirates

Jerry Grote 250K Shoeless Joes

Bob Heffner 750K Legends

Bob Hendley 750K Gold Sox

Mike Hershberger 250K Gamblers

Billy Hoeft 1.25M Hard Cider

Ed Kranepool 250K Gamblers

Bob Lillis 250K Gamblers

Phil Linz 250K Legends

Nelson Mathews 250K Gamblers

Roy McMillan 250K Gamblers

Joe Moeller 250K Legends

Jimmy Piersall 4.75M Knights

Howie Reed 2.25M Shoeless Joes

Andre Rodgers 750K Pirates

Ray Sadecki 9M Cannons

Rollie Sheldon 1.75M Stingers

Duke Snider 250K Gamblers

Tracy Stallard 1.5M Redbirds

Jimmy Stewart 250K Legends

Frank Thomas 500K Pirates
__________________

[catcher24]

Well, lets liven it up a bit now.

Legends bid 750K for Jackie Brandt.

[catcher24]

Legends bid 1.25M for Billy Bryan.

[catcher24]

Legends bid 1M for Frank Thomas.

[leecemark]

--That ought to raise the excitement level:laugh . I actually got my times off. I was thinking this ended in a few minutes, but we've actually got an hour (plus the BBF time lag) to go.

[mac195]

time check

[catcher24]

OK, let's see....raise the excitement level some....:confused:
Legends offer Gary Bell 6.5M.:D

[jkc32]

Rollie Sheldon $2M

[leecemark]

--I was hoping to sign Bell up for 3 years cheap or 4 at 5M. He isn't much this year, but he is a durable reliever in 65 and a workhorse starter of abpove average quality in 66-7. His salary level in this auction is more than I would pay for his best year though.

[Wasp]

Joe Gibbon 1.5M

[jkc32]

Hal Brown, 250K

[538280]

Gibbon 1.75

[Wasp]

Gibbon 2.25M

[538280]

Cline 2.25

[mac195]

Chi Chi Olivo .25M

[538280]

Gibbon 2.5M

[mac195]

Lou Clinton .25M

[leecemark]

Ty Cline 4.75M

[ElHalo]

Jack Fisher $1.5

[ElHalo]

Bob Heffner $1

[ElHalo]

Hank Fischer $0.75

[mac195]

Andre Rodgers 1M

[ElHalo]

Bob Hendley $1