wind was the culprit in Lidle crash

[Seattle1]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/03/cory.lidle.ap/index.html

Feds: Strong wind blew Lidle plane off course

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A stiff wind was blamed Friday for blowing the small airplane carrying Yankees pitcher Cory Lidle off course and into a New York City high-rise on October 11.

The National Transportation Safety Board ruled that the wind, coupled with the pilot's attempt at turning too sharply over New York's East River, forced the aircraft over Manhattan and into the side of a high-rise building.

[Sashag]

i think that its bs that a gov't agency is blaming wind for the crash. there has got to be a real explanation of what really caused the accident. to me, blaming wind as the reason for the accident seems like a total copout.

[Elvis]

i think that its bs that a gov't agency is blaming wind for the crash. there has got to be a real explanation of what really caused the accident. to me, blaming wind as the reason for the accident seems like a total copout.

"The NTSB's update outlined factual information about the crash, but did not conclude what the probable cause of the crash was."
:rolleyes:

[Mattingly]

There was also an inability to make a sharp turn. I'm not sure what Lidle's flight instructor's experience is, but I understand it's extensive. I've also heard that he didn't have much experience in NYC. Turning a very sharp turn over the East River (separating Queens from NYC's East Side), then flying over the East River may not exactly be to everyone's comfort level.

It still hasn't been determined whether Lidle or the flight instructor were at the wheel, so I can't really consider anything to be absolutely precise. A few more stones need to be overturned first.

[Seattle1]

Hey CNN changed the wording of that story since I posted it. It went from a "stiff wind" and a "strong wind" to a "light wind." I didn't do that since all I did was copy and paste. That's peculiar.

[Padday]

The sharp turn in an aircraft as light as that could have been knocked off course by a gust of wind. It wouldn't even have had to have been a particularly strong wind because those types of aircraft are very light and the manouvre being attempted would have made it even more dangerous.

[Ytown Tribe fan]

Flying too low over NYC is the cause. That airspace is full of traffic helicopters and tall buildings that create all sorts of LL turbulence and "wind canyons", and eddying.

No bugsmasher pilot in his right mind would do that, and certainly no student pilot would think to do it.

Causing even greater problems is the fact that the buildings block a lot of the ARTCC radar coverage, making contact intermittent at best.

The cause was pure foolhardiness and arrogance.

[ESPNFan]

Flying too low over NYC is the cause. That airspace is full of traffic helicopters and tall buildings that create all sorts of LL turbulence and "wind canyons", and eddying.

No bugsmasher pilot in his right mind would do that, and certainly no student pilot would think to do it.

Causing even greater problems is the fact that the buildings block a lot of the ARTCC radar coverage, making contact intermittent at best.

The cause was pure foolhardiness and arrogance.

I heard people commenting after the accident that also talked about turbulent winds occurring in that particular portion of NYC. Its a sad story and I really don't think trying to point fingers and apply blame aside from figuring out what caused the accident is necessary now.

[Padday]

He was very close to La Guardia airport at the time so turbulence might have been a factor.

[malt-tones]

Wulp, since the shock of the Lidle incident is starting to fade, I thought that I would post an intriguing theory that I "heard" right after this tragedy.

I do not purport this to be the truth, because as Jack Nicholson stated, ''You can't handle the truth." However, it was interesting, and I heard this from different sources that do not even know each other.

Gambling debts and the Mafia.

It was well report that Lidle was a gambling man, and "supposedly" owed the "Mafia", whoever that maybe, some big-time coin. These God-Fathers orchestrated the whole incident.

Again, this is just heresay which is usually just stupid speculation, but the gambling angle lends some credibility to this outrageous notion. I wanted to post this earlier, but thought it was inappropriate at the time.

Again, please do not shoot the messenger, I feel it is crazy talk; however, the Mob has gotten to bigger people than Lidle before. I say that if he owed that much coin, then why should they kill him and lose the profits.

I dunno......seems crazy..............

[Padday]

Wulp, since the shock of the Lidle incident is starting to fade, I thought that I would post an intriguing theory that I "heard" right after this tragedy.

I do not purport this to be the truth, because as Jack Nicholson stated, ''You can't handle the truth." However, it was interesting, and I heard this from different sources that do not even know each other.

Gambling debts and the Mafia.

It was well report that Lidle was a gambling man, and "supposedly" owed the "Mafia", whoever that maybe, some big-time coin. These God-Fathers orchestrated the whole incident.

Again, this is just heresay which is usually just stupid speculation, but the gambling angle lends some credibility to this outrageous notion. I wanted to post this earlier, but thought it was inappropriate at the time.

Again, please do not shoot the messenger, I feel it is crazy talk; however, the Mob has gotten to bigger people than Lidle before. I say that if he owed that much coin, then why should they kill him and lose the profits.

I dunno......seems crazy..............
It's interesting but a bit fafetched. Maybe it would be a good movie idea.

[bluezebra]

Wulp, since the shock of the Lidle incident is starting to fade, I thought that I would post an intriguing theory that I "heard" right after this tragedy.

I do not purport this to be the truth, because as Jack Nicholson stated, ''You can't handle the truth." However, it was interesting, and I heard this from different sources that do not even know each other.

Gambling debts and the Mafia.

It was well report that Lidle was a gambling man, and "supposedly" owed the "Mafia", whoever that maybe, some big-time coin. These God-Fathers orchestrated the whole incident.

Again, this is just heresay which is usually just stupid speculation, but the gambling angle lends some credibility to this outrageous notion. I wanted to post this earlier, but thought it was inappropriate at the time.

Again, please do not shoot the messenger, I feel it is crazy talk; however, the Mob has gotten to bigger people than Lidle before. I say that if he owed that much coin, then why should they kill him and lose the profits.

I dunno......seems crazy..............

Right!!! The Mafia had the pilot (whoever it was) fly through the tall buildings, and caused a gust of wind to blow the plane into a building. That is about the most stupid conjecture ever to appear on this, or any board.

Bob

[punker268]

It's sad what happened though
he was an awesome pitcher.
Arthur Rhodes was kind of mean to him too though

[Wade8813]

A man who was supposed to be on that plane died in another plane crash.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15759622/?GT1=8717

A 68-year-old man who almost accompanied Cory Lidle on his fatal flight in New York City last month died in a plane crash in California on Tuesday.

That's so bizarre...

[W_Marone]

It's sad what happened though
he was an awesome pitcher.
Arthur Rhodes was kind of mean to him too though

Listen, what Rhodes said may have hurt feelings but o well, when Lidle's eating icecream in the clubhouse between his innings and all that stuff...and then rips the team after he's dealt. Yeah, that's a real classy move :rolleyes:. Rhodes shouldnt take it back becuase Lidle passed on, thats like saying...."oh well....I said that Pepsi was better than Coke, but now that Coke has gone bankrupt I feel bad for what I said. Its not on as big of scale by anymeans but almost the same exact concept. If youre going to be guy who rips managment then have the balls to do it while youre with the team, not only Lidle, but guys like Billy Wagner, and others....Rip the team while youre there, be a man about it, dont spout off to the media like a coward. Now, not saying anyone is disagreeing with me, just posing a point about Rhodes' comments about Lidle. My thoughts were with the Lidle family after he passed, no one wants to see a young guy like that pass so early in his life.

[W_Marone]

Right!!! The Mafia had the pilot (whoever it was) fly through the tall buildings, and caused a gust of wind to blow the plane into a building. That is about the most stupid conjecture ever to appear on this, or any board.

Bob


It may have been infering that was the possible consipracy theory before the wind subject matter was brought to attention...but I still cant falthom any possible way how the MOB could crash Lidle's plane into a building..... that's right up there with the Yeti and Lockness monster....and the Norwegian goat boy. Take it easy gentleman, and have a good one...