So, does this mean the NL doesn't stink?

[Elvis]

Congrat's Cards - NL Champs become WORLD Champs! :clapping After hearing for the last 6 months how bad the National League is compared to the American League, does this change anything? Are we winning any hearts and minds of those who think the NL is the inferior league lately? Or does this not really change anything [yet]?

[hubkittel]

not really...but i'm dancing anyway. :dance :dance :dance :dance three cheers for the senior circuit, the nl central, and your world series champion st. louis cardinals. :clapping :clapping :clapping

[STLCards2]

The gap between the two leagues may have been overstated a bit, but the AL is still clearly better than the NL. But...who cares? It has already been said that the 2006 Cardinals are the worst WS winner ever. This may be true, but there are 29 team who wish they had the title of worst WS winner ever!:gt :dance :laugh

By the way, I wonder what Todd Jones thinks of Jeff Weaver now?

[tigers527]

Given a "short" series....the only thing the Tigers really did wrong was lose "home field" in game one....If only it was back in the days before the WS when the Frontier league and the Olde NL played a 15ish game playoff (mainly for the extra gates, where one team would win 12 games to 3, maybe the "gitters" would of cleared up around game 9?)

The NL seems to me to have the strength of bunting to the pitcher....which overpowered the Tigers....Oh yeah, and the Tiger bats couldn't hit worth a tinkle (except Guillen, Inge and Casey).

[hubkittel]

The NL seems to me to have the strength of bunting to the pitcher....which overpowered the Tigers....

did you hear mccarver tonight actually suggest that the cards should bunt the ball to the pitcher? idiot. there he is on national tv giving away the nl's secrets.

[STLCards2]

did you hear mccarver tonight actually suggest that the cards should bunt the ball to the pitcher? idiot. there he is on national tv giving away the nl's secrets.

That "Hit It To The Pitcher' sign was classic! The only good sign among lots of cliche garbage.

[Ubiquitous]

This whole NL is a minor league view this year was way overblown. But the Cards winning isn't proof in the other direction either. One bad two week spell in the middle of the season and suddenly the NL is a minor league. Yeah okay sure.

[hudsonharden]

The NL stunk last season (that one that lasts 162 games). This postseason they did alright.

[otis89]

I think Jeff Suppan and Jeff Weaver turning into Cy Young helped the Cardinals, too.

[AutographCollector]

I wonder what Todd Jones thinks of Jeff Weaver now?
What did Jones say about Weaver? :confused:

[Old Sweater]

I got a big kick outta Jeff Weaver's little brother chanting, 1 more, 1 more right along with the fans after the 8th inning.

[MantleFan911]

Well, not to take anything away from the cards but, the tigers lost this series, the cards didnt win it (look at the errors and the A-Rod like clutch hitting)

[Ubiquitous]

The Cards won the series. You don't win 4-1 and not be the reason. You one game and maybe you weren't the reason but not 4. All those batters who didn't get hit in the clutch, well somebody had to pitch to them. This wasn't batting practice. Those errors, somebody had to put them in play for it to be a error. Somebody had to be on base to make those errors costly. Some pitcher had to prevent the tiger hitters from scoring to make those errors mean something.

[DBH]

The All-Star Game has been sort of misleading. The AL elects DH's to the All-Star team as First basemen (Ex. Big Papi) So they have the advantage right off the bat.

Inter-league is where you see who is really better year to year. And yes the AL was better.

But let us not forget in the past six seasons, since 2001 the NL has won 3 World Series. D-Backs, Marlins and now the Cardinals have won against the seemingly superior AL.

One could argue that this league has more talent or that league is better. What really matters and what is remembered is who won the the World Series. Can you name me the all-time All-Star game record? Or the All-Time Inter-league play records?

Congrats to the Cards!!!

[DBH]

Well, not to take anything away from the cards but, the tigers lost this series, the cards didnt win it (look at the errors and the A-Rod like clutch hitting)


This mentality is what I find humorous. The reason the A's haven't won is because of run prevention (pitching and defense) more than lack of offense. Sure, the Tigers made errors, but Pitching and Defense IS what wins in the post-season. Look at every team that wins year to year. Baseball Prospectus did a great article on this very topic.

I think we can all agree that the Cards got pitching performances that were unexpectedly great! That's IS why they won.

Let us praise Jeff Weaver, Suppan, Wainwright and Reyes for stepping up in the clutch and give credit where it is due.

They won with little to no production from Pujols. So, it's not like the Tigers gave up and let the cards bombard them. The Cards MADE the plays and Tigers didn't. You don't make plays you don't deserve to win. The Cards still put the ball in play and forced errors and bad decisions by young players.

The Tigers will be back. They have a bright future. I would be a afraid to be in the AL. The way they dismantled the mighty Yanks and A's shows what they are capable of.

To simply say that the Tigers lost it, means the Cards didn't win it! Don't look now but I think have the trophy!

[Ytown Tribe fan]

This only means that Pujols is a great player who got his team to the post-season. Period.

Once a team gets there, anything can happen. We have seen this time and time again since 1969, and even more so since 1995.

[ChrisLDuncan]

Well the Tigers DID blow it when you're pitching staff is committing more than an error a game, that's loosing it. It's not like the Cardnals walked off in anygames or anything or made key plays, it was more the Tigers lack of play (errors errors errors), so I mean do the Cards deserve it for sure...but only because no other team does deserve it due to poor play.

[bigtime39]

I'm going to sound like a Yankee$ apologist here (shudder!), but:
The hardest thing to do in baseball is to make the playoffs. It's sad that, outside their respective cities, World Series losers are quickly forgotten. I don't mean this to take nothing away from what the Cardinals accomplished in the Series, because, obviously, they had to get there, too--but I still believe that getting to the Series is harder than winning it.
(And also that the AL is better overall than the NL right now--just not immensely better.)

[Elvis]

Well, not to take anything away from the cards but, the tigers lost this series, the cards didnt win it (look at the errors and the A-Rod like clutch hitting)

I guess the Mets didn't win the 1986 World Series then.

The team that wins is the team that makes the clutch hits, doesen't make costly errors, and simply plays better than the other team when it counts the most. That team would be the Redbirds.

[ChrisLDuncan]

I guess the Mets didn't win the 1986 World Series then.

The team that wins is the team that makes the clutch hits, doesen't make costly errors, and simply plays better than the other team when it counts the most. That team would be the Redbirds.

That error was in game six, they had a game seven but Boston didn't do anything, and yes The Red Sox LOST that WS.

[Ubiquitous]

Well the Tigers DID blow it when you're pitching staff is committing more than an error a game, that's loosing it. It's not like the Cardnals walked off in anygames or anything or made key plays, it was more the Tigers lack of play (errors errors errors), so I mean do the Cards deserve it for sure...but only because no other team does deserve it due to poor play.


Cardinals won a game 5-0. They won the first game 7-2 and the erors didn't give them that win.

The error in the third game turned a tie into a win. The final game same thing. So right off the bat we have the Cards up 2-1. With two games a coin toss if it wasn't for errors.

The errors sealed the deal but it was the Cards pitchers and hitters who put then in the position to win this series, and lets not talk about the only win the Tigers did get while PineTar boy was on the mound.

[ChrisLDuncan]

Cardinals won a game 5-0. They won the first game 7-2 and the erors didn't give them that win.

The error in the third game turned a tie into a win. The final game same thing. So right off the bat we have the Cards up 2-1. With two games a coin toss if it wasn't for errors.

The errors sealed the deal but it was the Cards pitchers and hitters who put then in the position to win this series, and lets not talk about the only win the Tigers did get while PineTar boy was on the mound.

Well first I disagree with that PineTar boy thing, way too big of a deal, and second I said that the Cards did deserve to win, but mostly because the Tigers played so poorly. I guess that's a border line Yogism.

[cardsfanatic]

How are the Cards the worst WS champions ever? Are people totally ignorant to the circumstances that LED to their 83 win season? On August 1st the Cards were 4 wins behind the Mets for best record in the entire NL. Between then and the end of the season they lost half their starting lineup, their closer and Mulder was pronounced DOA. We basically had Suppan, Carp, Duncan and Pujols. That was more or less our team the final two months of the season and that's no exaggeration. We went from being on a pace of 91-92 wins to winning 83 games.

Yes, we played horrible down the stretch. Yes, they ended with a horrific 83 win season. But the team that played the final two months was _NOT_ representative to how good this team really was. With a healthy Edmonds, Rolen, Eckstein and so forth we were a very good team all season long and we were a good team in the playoffs. Certainly deserving of more credit than we get from people that say "the Cardinals didn't earn their WS." Did they not pitch, hit and field their way to a DS, CS and WS win like every champion before them?

Some really poor sports around this board. Had the tables been reverse and the Cards played like the Tigers and the Tigers played like the Cards I guarantee you the Cardinal fans wouldn't be on here pouting and saying how bad the Tigers sucked, how they didn't deserve it and blah, blah, blah.

Anyway, that's my final rant on the subject. Just had to say it after reading three threads littered with garbage like that. This is a happy time and the Cardinals _FINALLY_ won one! I was beginning to think it'd never happen. Those 22 years as a fan paid off last night... BIG TIME.

[Jayme]

Great post cardsfanatic.

[Nomtoc]

The Junior League is a gross manipulation of Baseball. Until they stop using that horrible DH rule they will forever be merely playing exhibition games; which is all the WS has been for the last 33 years. As much as I detest the Cardinals they proved they were the best team in Baseball when they beat the Mets to win the NLCS. The best team in Baseball every year is the winner of the NLCS.

[Ytown Tribe fan]

to quote John McEnroe, "You have GOT to be KIDDING me!"

The Cards won the weakest division in baseball and have the worst W-L record of any World Series winner in baseball history. Look it up.

Put it this way, in 1995 the regular season was shortened by 18 games due to the strike, and still both NLCS teams had more wins than the 2006 Cards.

[mojorisin71]

How are the Cards the worst WS champions ever? Are people totally ignorant to the circumstances that LED to their 83 win season? On August 1st the Cards were 4 wins behind the Mets for best record in the entire NL. Between then and the end of the season they lost half their starting lineup, their closer and Mulder was pronounced DOA. We basically had Suppan, Carp, Duncan and Pujols. That was more or less our team the final two months of the season and that's no exaggeration. We went from being on a pace of 91-92 wins to winning 83 games.

Yes, we played horrible down the stretch. Yes, they ended with a horrific 83 win season. But the team that played the final two months was _NOT_ representative to how good this team really was. With a healthy Edmonds, Rolen, Eckstein and so forth we were a very good team all season long and we were a good team in the playoffs. Certainly deserving of more credit than we get from people that say "the Cardinals didn't earn their WS." Did they not pitch, hit and field their way to a DS, CS and WS win like every champion before them?

Some really poor sports around this board. Had the tables been reverse and the Cards played like the Tigers and the Tigers played like the Cards I guarantee you the Cardinal fans wouldn't be on here pouting and saying how bad the Tigers sucked, how they didn't deserve it and blah, blah, blah.

Anyway, that's my final rant on the subject. Just had to say it after reading three threads littered with garbage like that. This is a happy time and the Cardinals _FINALLY_ won one! I was beginning to think it'd never happen. Those 22 years as a fan paid off last night... BIG TIME.
22? I thought it had been 24 years since Sutter struck out Gorman Thomas in Game 7?

[Yankeebiscuitfan]

Congrat's Cards - NL Champs become WORLD Champs! :clapping After hearing for the last 6 months how bad the National League is compared to the American League, does this change anything? Are we winning any hearts and minds of those who think the NL is the inferior league lately? Or does this not really change anything [yet]?

How do you mean? What about 2001 and 2003? The NL didn't stink then.

[mojorisin71]

to quote John McEnroe, "You have GOT to be KIDDING me!"

The Cards won the weakest division in baseball and have the worst W-L record of any World Series winner in baseball history. Look it up.
But in the end, they still won. The Tigers played in the toughest division and didn't win.

[cardsfanatic]

22? I thought it had been 24 years since Sutter struck out Gorman Thomas in Game 7?

Perhaps you should re-read what I wrote. I was 2 years old when the Cardinals won their last WS. I was 5 during the 1985 WS which is the first time I rooted for and watched the Cardinals. I started pulling for the Cardinals at the beginning of the 1985 season, which was April 1985. It's October (almost NOV) 2006, so 21-22 years that I've PERSONALLY been waiting for a WS. Not since they won one. The 1982 WS and all 8 that came before it are nice and all, but they're not mine. This one is my WS as a fan.

[hubkittel]

1985 was your first series as a cards fan(atic)? you must have suffered terrible childhood trauma over that. :laugh i was a senior in high school at the time and i'm still scarred by the events of game 6 and 7.

[BigStellyPADRES4LIFE]

Absolutely not, the AL is much more offesnively geared and that will allow you to beat up on teams that are lesser, but.... the NL has to me more pitching oriented, and by doing that they are more likely to beat the better teams.

[Brownie31]

Congrat's Cards - NL Champs become WORLD Champs! :clapping After hearing for the last 6 months how bad the National League is compared to the American League, does this change anything? Are we winning any hearts and minds of those who think the NL is the inferior league lately? Or does this not really change anything [yet]?

It changes it for this year!

Brownie31

[hubkittel]

i can't say that i've taken this thread too seriously. the whole al/nl thing is, imo, cyclical. in the next few years, it'll probably swing back in favor of the nl or at the very least balance out some. but if i understand correctly, doesn't most of the arguement for al dominance rest on three things: an 8-0 record by al teams in the 04 and 05 series, the al record in recent all star games, and the al record in this years interleague play? if that's the arguement than the cards just knocked one of the legs off the tripod.

[Neilios]

How are the Cards the worst WS champions ever? Are people totally ignorant to the circumstances that LED to their 83 win season? On August 1st the Cards were 4 wins behind the Mets for best record in the entire NL. Between then and the end of the season they lost half their starting lineup, their closer and Mulder was pronounced DOA. We basically had Suppan, Carp, Duncan and Pujols. That was more or less our team the final two months of the season and that's no exaggeration. We went from being on a pace of 91-92 wins to winning 83 games.

Yes, we played horrible down the stretch. Yes, they ended with a horrific 83 win season. But the team that played the final two months was _NOT_ representative to how good this team really was. With a healthy Edmonds, Rolen, Eckstein and so forth we were a very good team all season long and we were a good team in the playoffs. Certainly deserving of more credit than we get from people that say "the Cardinals didn't earn their WS." Did they not pitch, hit and field their way to a DS, CS and WS win like every champion before them?

Some really poor sports around this board. Had the tables been reverse and the Cards played like the Tigers and the Tigers played like the Cards I guarantee you the Cardinal fans wouldn't be on here pouting and saying how bad the Tigers sucked, how they didn't deserve it and blah, blah, blah.

Anyway, that's my final rant on the subject. Just had to say it after reading three threads littered with garbage like that. This is a happy time and the Cardinals _FINALLY_ won one! I was beginning to think it'd never happen. Those 22 years as a fan paid off last night... BIG TIME.

I've probably said this a hundred different ways on multiple posts since yesterday, but the Cardinals EARNED their championship. There are perfectly reasonable arguments for how different the series would be without dumb mistakes. Literally, in unearned runs, we're only down 3 games to 2. HOWEVER, championship teams don't make mistakes (often), and the Cards didn't make mistakes (if their name wasn't Duncan). Even if we were perfect on the field, we did not have the offensive pop that it takes to win any game, much less a World Series.

Even though it was more their pitching that won it for them (nothing wrong with that; see 2001 D-Backs or 1988 Dodgers), it says a lot about a team when their star player does not perform even close to his standards, but they still won games because the rest of the lineup carried them through (Molina, Rolen, Eckstein, Edmonds -- most of which had some kind of injury!!).

I'm repeating myself ad nauseum, but people need to know that not all Detroiters are sore losers and play the blame game. In fact, most I've talked to feel the way I do (it's just that I use a phone and geographical locations more than cyberspace). To those who do want to blame whatever it is you want to blame, STOP. Be proud of your team (or the team if you're neutral) for an incredible and unprecedented run, and give this Cards team some credit. They're no fluke, otherwise they wouldn't have been in 4 of the last 5 NLCS's and 2 of the last 3 WS's. They're a good team who absolutely took off when they all became healthy again. Am I seriously agreeing with cardsfanatic?!?!? :eek: :D

[DownUnderDodger]

Well, not to take anything away from the cards but, the tigers lost this series, the cards didnt win it
Very easy to say given the horrible errors, but each team is only as good as its opposition allows it to be and the Cards were able to take full advantage of the errors by turning them into important runs, while at the same stopping the Tigers from getting any of those runs back. I believe it was as much, if not more, the Cards defence than the Tigers errors which won them the WS.

[AstrosFan]

The gap between the two leagues may have been overstated a bit, but the AL is still clearly better than the NL. But...who cares? It has already been said that the 2006 Cardinals are the worst WS winner ever. This may be true, but there are 29 team who wish they had the title of worst WS winner ever!:gt :dance :laugh

By the way, I wonder what Todd Jones thinks of Jeff Weaver now?

Damn you, Cardinals fans. Why not us?

[Mattingly]

I can't consider a WS win a referendum on either league. If anything, it alleviated any thoughts that the Cards couldn't win the WS again. It also proves that the Tigers have a longer way to go if they're going to win again.

The Tigers had a long break. They'd been on an emotional high from beating the Yanks, then swept the A's. Then came the long time off. Meanwhile, the Cards played 7 games against the Mets. A Game 7 which ended with the bases loaded, 2 outs, and I think it was a full count. To me, that's prepped them for battle. That they didn't have a non-playing lull means their focus was very fresh.

The Tigers had focus, they had momentum, but once you take a long break, that's like a rubber band that's not taut anymore. If you've got muscles, you flex them. The Cards' muscle was recently flexed, and powerfully done.

After the rain delay, I have no idea why Leyland, other than to avoid a media circus, didn't pitch Kenny Rogers in Game 5. Was he saving him for Game 6? If so, that makes as much sense to me as having your best hitter (pinch hitting) on deck with the game on the line, yet you allow your other guy to hit. To me, you put Kenny Rogers in Game 5, since if you lose that one, there's no Game 6.

The Tigers need to reorganize, figure out what went wrong. They should also try avoiding any more overpriced $cott Bora$ clients.

[tigers527]

Some really poor sports around this board. Had the tables been reverse and the Cards played like the Tigers and the Tigers played like the Cards I guarantee you the Cardinal fans wouldn't be on here pouting and saying how bad the Tigers sucked, how they didn't deserve it and blah, blah, blah.


I have been called one of those spoiled sports by at least one (that Evian Applesause guy)...But I was merely commenting on the individual games, and specific incidents that effected the Tigers adversly (in particular the errors and misplays the Tigers did to give more chances to a potent team, at least in taking advantage of those extra chances).

Overall, though it all breaks down to the Cards starting pitchers and that pretty dang good bullpen shutting down a pretty potent offense (Tigers 3rd in MLB in HR, and in the range of 8-12 in the MLB, in most of the other major offensive stats......except walks (28th, I think).

Without the errors people mention, including myself as a possbility of costing the Tigers a solid chance at this series. It still leaves a team (the Tigers) not being able to score more then 4 runs in any one game of the WS. When a team can shut down an offense so well.....well, that's why they won. A big Detroit tip of the cap to the pitchers of those St Louis Cards. Those guys dealt, and the Tigers hitters could not DEAL.

[EvanAparra]

Overall, though it all breaks down to the Cards starting pitchers and that pretty dang good bullpen shutting down a pretty potent offense (Tigers 3rd in MLB in HR, and in the range of 8-12 in the MLB, in most of the other major offensive stats......except walks (28th, I think).

Without the errors people mention, including myself as a possbility of costing the Tigers a solid chance at this series. It still leaves a team (the Tigers) not being able to score more then 4 runs in any one game of the WS. When a team can shut down an offense so well.....well, that's why they won. A big Detroit tip of the cap to the pitchers of those St Louis Cards. Those guys dealt, and the Tigers hitters could not DEAL.

Compare this to what you were saying before, its a big difference. You arent acting like a sore loser anymore, but you sure were after the game, just look at your previous posts.

(that Evian Applesause guy)... :laugh

[tigers527]

Compare this to what you were saying before, its a big difference. You arent acting like a sore loser anymore, but you sure were after the game, just look at your previous posts.

First off, I would like to say thanks for having a sense of humor in regards to my "toying" with your screen name.

And second, what I was saying was also true, the Tigers did shot themselves in the foot. This could of had the makings for one of the greatest defense/pitching preformances in WS history. It is a shame the Tigers left there D in Oakland. Granted the Tigers were not known as the greatest defenders of all time (they did finish the season in the top third of MLB though), but even a little consistancy on the easier plays, and who knows?

Third, overall, I do not know how many, if any WS champs could not score more then 4 runs in any one game. So, that is the ultimate shortfall of those motor city kitties. Or as I just said...props to those St Loius pitchers.

[EvanAparra]

First off, I would like to say thanks for having a sense of humor in regards to my "toying" with your screen name.

And second, what I was saying was also true, the Tigers did shot themselves in the foot. This could of had the makings for one of the greatest defense/pitching preformances in WS history. It is a shame the Tigers left there D in Oakland. Granted the Tigers were not known as the greatest defenders of all time (they did finish the season in the top third of MLB though), but even a little consistancy on the easier plays, and who knows?

Third, overall, I do not know how many, if any WS champs could not score more then 4 runs in any one game. So, that is the ultimate shortfall of those motor city kitties. Or as I just said...props to those St Loius pitchers.

Well I actually did laugh a little when I saw it, good one. :D

The Tigers most definately shot themselves in the foot. I mean those pitching errors were just incredible... especially at what point in the game they came during.

The offense stalled, the pitchers couldn't play D, the cardinals didnt have many mistakes, and pitched pretty good. I just didn't like when you were discounting the Cards right after the series, but had I been in the same situation, I may have been fuming as well, cursing my own team before giving props to the other. Oh well, not the way I would have liked to have seen this series played out, but two teams that I generally like were in the WS, so who am I to complain.

[Wade8813]

This doesn't prove much of anything. Bad teams go on winning streaks, and good teams go on losing streaks. Happens all the time.

The Junior League is a gross manipulation of Baseball. Until they stop using that horrible DH rule they will forever be merely playing exhibition games; which is all the WS has been for the last 33 years. As much as I detest the Cardinals they proved they were the best team in Baseball when they beat the Mets to win the NLCS. The best team in Baseball every year is the winner of the NLCS.

The Senior League is a pathetic display of Baseball. Until they start using that DH rule they will forever be merely playing exhibition games; which is all the WS has been for the last 33 years. The best team in Baseball every year is the winner of the ALCS.

* * *

You can rant and rave all you want, but it isn't meaningful unless you give a little more reasoning then that.

[Disgruntaledmarinerfan]

The Junior League is a gross manipulation of Baseball. Until they stop using that horrible DH rule they will forever be merely playing exhibition games; which is all the WS has been for the last 33 years. As much as I detest the Cardinals they proved they were the best team in Baseball when they beat the Mets to win the NLCS. The best team in Baseball every year is the winner of the NLCS.

I have a few questions about your statement. How is the DH a "manipulation", How is it horrible rule, how does the dh position make the world series an exhibition, and finally where is your proof that the best team in baseball is the winner of the NLCS?

[PopTop]

The best team won. The best team always wins.

[hellborn]

Congrats to the Cards and taking nothing away from them, but it's just a short series. It's THE short series, but so many weird things can happen in just a few games.
NL is clearly much weaker than the AL now. Maybe the Mets throwing money around will help force the other NL teams to do the same to attract/keep talent, but it'll take years for the balance to shift.

[W_Marone]

It's intersting to see the contrasting veiws between fans of an AL teams and fans of NL teams.

[EvanAparra]

The best team won. The best team always wins.
Yup.

I dont think this makes the NL any better than the AL, as the bigger sample size proved the AL superior, but i'm somewhat glad this happened, because some AL fans started to take it too far. ("the indians are just as good as the mets, its just that they are in the AL")

[Ubiquitous]

NO the bigger sample size proved that team X beat team Y in a particular set of series at a particular time.

[EvanAparra]

NO the bigger sample size proved that team X beat team Y in a particular set of series at a particular time.
:rolleyes:

[bluezebra]

Congrat's Cards - NL Champs become WORLD Champs! :clapping After hearing for the last 6 months how bad the National League is compared to the American League, does this change anything? Are we winning any hearts and minds of those who think the NL is the inferior league lately? Or does this not really change anything [yet]?

All this World Series proved is that the Saint Louis Cardinals defeated the Detroit Tigers in five (5) games. Nothing more, nothing less. A World Series doesn't define which league is superior to the other.

Bob

[Redbird]

What defines dominance? Interleague? All-Star Game? WS? All of them? Some of them? None of them?

The AL is still the top league right now despite the WS trophy being in the NL. When I was growing up, the NL had the dominance and the pendulum has swung the other way. Eventually it will swing back toward the NL.

[hellborn]

What defines dominance? Interleague? All-Star Game? WS? All of them? Some of them? None of them?

The AL is still the top league right now despite the WS trophy being in the NL. When I was growing up, the NL had the dominance and the pendulum has swung the other way. Eventually it will swing back toward the NL.

I think the NL got a big boost from being more aggressive about picking up minority players, and it took that pendulum a long time to swing back. AL now has more teams willing to carry huge payrolls, inspired by the Yanks...I predict that the pendulum will start to swing back after Steinbrenner either dies or sells the team.

[Nomtoc]

What defines dominance? Interleague? All-Star Game? WS? All of them? Some of them? None of them?

The AL is still the top league right now despite the WS trophy being in the NL. When I was growing up, the NL had the dominance and the pendulum has swung the other way. Eventually it will swing back toward the NL.

Yeah, as soon as they make the Junior League play by the rules.

[EvanAparra]

Yeah, as soon as they make the Junior League play by the rules.

Yeah, because the AL plays with a DH in interleague and the NL doesn't.