HoFers who served in the U.S. Marines

[Honus Wagner Rules]

According to wikipedia the following HoFers served in the U.S. Marines:

Tom Seaver
Ted Williams
Rod Carew
Roberto Clemente
Eddie Collins
Bill Veeck

[LouGehrig]

Ralph Houk and Henry Albert Bauer.

[Captain Cold Nose]

Ralph Houk and Henry Albert Bauer.
Marines, yes. HOFers, no, thus the title of the thread and its forum location.
Though Houk gets plenty of arguments for inclusion.

[MyDogSparty]

According to wikipedia the following HoFers served in the U.S. Marines:

Tom Seaver
Ted Williams
Rod Carew
Roberto Clemente
Eddie Collins
Bill Veeck

Seaver, Carew and Clemente shocked me. I see that Seaver did 6 months of active duty in the marine corp reserves before going to school. I'm not sure about Carew and Clemente. It doesn't really offer any insight on their service.

[Honus Wagner Rules]

Seaver, Carew and Clemente shocked me. I see that Seaver did 6 months of active duty in the marine corp reserves before going to school. I'm not sure about Carew and Clemente. It doesn't really offer any insight on their service.
Clemente really surprised me. He must have not been in the Marines too long since he debuted with the Pirates at age 20.

[Dalkowski110]

Ty Cobb's brother Paul was in the Marines during WWI and saw combat. Paul Cobb, like Ty, played pro baseball but never made the Majors.

[bluezebra]

Tom Seaver..Reserve duty, never saw active service.
Ted Williams..Served as flight instructor in WWII. Called back during the Korean War as a fighter pilot, brought in his burning plane.
Rod Carew..When did he serve in the Corps. He started in pro ball at 19, with no break until retiring.
Roberto Clemente..Started his career at age 20, with no break until his untimely death. When did he serve?
Eddie Collins..Served in WWI, for a short time.
Bill Veeck..Veeck lost a leg due to wounds received in the Pacific Theater in WWII.


Ralph Houk..NOT a Marine. Served with the Army Rangers, and saw combat in WWII.
Henry Albert Bauer.."While in the South Pacific, Bauer contracted malaria, but recovered enough to earn 11 campaign ribbons, two Bronze Stars and a pair of Purple Hearts in 32 months of combat."

Bob

[Richmond Hill Phoenix]

Called back during the Korean War as a fighter pilot, brought in his burning plane.


What does this mean... He flew a plane back to base while it was on fire?

[Honus Wagner Rules]

Tom Seaver..Reserve duty, never saw active service.
Ted Williams..Served as flight instructor in WWII. Called back during the Korean War as a fighter pilot, brought in his burning plane.
Rod Carew..When did he serve in the Corps. He started in pro ball at 19, with no break until retiring.
Roberto Clemente..Started his career at age 20, with no break until his untimely death. When did he serve?
Eddie Collins..Served in WWI, for a short time.
Bill Veeck..Veeck lost a leg due to wounds received in the Pacific Theater in WWII.


Ralph Houk..NOT a Marine. Served with the Army Rangers, and saw combat in WWII.
Henry Albert Bauer.."While in the South Pacific, Bauer contracted malaria, but recovered enough to earn 11 campaign ribbons, two Bronze Stars and a pair of Purple Hearts in 32 months of combat."

Bob
I dug deeper and found about 10 other websites that list Carew as Marnie. But I don't think it possible. Carew turned 18 on 10/1/1963. According to the Baseball Cube website he signed as an undrafted FA in 1964 and played pro ball in 1964 as an 18 year old.

Clemente turned 18 on 8/18/1952. He didn't play pro ball until the 1954 season. So if he did serve in the Marines it had to have been between August 1952 and the spring of 1954. I highly doubt he was in the Marines for less than two years. I did find this on wikipedia:


In 2003, Clemente was inducted into the National Museum of the United States Marine Corps Hall of Fame

Maybe whoever wrote the wikipedia page on Clemente got confused and though Clemente was a former Marine.

[bluezebra]

What does this mean... He flew a plane back to base while it was on fire?

His fighter plane was hit by enemy ground fire, and caught fire. Williams thought about ejecting, but because of his height (6'3"), he realized that his knees would be severely damaged, and his baseball career would be over, he chose to take the chance of brining his plane in. Luckily for himself and baseball, he was successful.

[bluezebra]

I dug deeper and found about 10 other websites that list Carew as Marnie. But I don't think it possible. Carew turned 18 on 10/1/1963. According to the Baseball Cube website he signed as an undrafted FA in 1964 and played pro ball in 1964 as an 18 year old.

Clemente turned 18 on 8/18/1952. He didn't play pro ball until the 1954 season. So if he did serve in the Marines it had to have been between August 1952 and the spring of 1954. I highly doubt he was in the Marines for less than two years. I did find this on wikipedia:



Maybe whoever wrote the wikipedia page on Clemente got confused and though Clemente was a former Marine.

1..It's possible that Clemente was a Reservist who was called to Active Duty during the Korean War.

2..There are no "former" Marines, just those of us no longer on Active Duty.

3..Rodney Kline Carew was inducted into the United States Marine Corps Sports Hall of Fame in 2002. Clemente was inducted in 2003, as was Tom Seaver. Ted Williams was inducted in 2001.

Semper Fi!

Bob

[Honus Wagner Rules]

1..It's possible that Clemente was a Reservist who was called to Active Duty during the Korean War.I haven't found any details of Clemente's supposed Marine service.


2..There are no "former" Marines, just those of us no longer on Active Duty.
I thought there are no "ex-Marines", just retired Marines. ;)


3..Rodney Kline Carew was inducted into the United States Marine Corps Sports Hall of Fame in 2002. Clemente was inducted in 2003, as was Tom Seaver. Ted Williams was inducted in 2001.

Semper Fi!

Bob
Was Carew a Marnie reservist? I don't see how he could have been a full time Marine given that he debuted in pro ball at age 18 in 1964.

[runningshoes]

http://www.ajclay.com/PTC/pictures/728.jpg

[runningshoes]

Carew was a reservist...second column near the bottom.

http://www.ajclay.com/PTC/pictures/729.jpg

[Captain Cold Nose]

Spectacular, Troy. :clapping

[bluezebra]

I haven't found any details of Clemente's supposed Marine service.


I thought there are no "ex-Marines", just retired Marines. ;)


Was Carew a Marnie reservist? I don't see how he could have been a full time Marine given that he debuted in pro ball at age 18 in 1964.

We have ex-wives. No real Marine is ever an "ex".

Reservists are often called to active duty during war time. And, eeven if not called up, a Marine is a Marine, PERIOD!!!

Bob

[runningshoes]

Spectacular, Troy. :clapping

Thanks.

Might as well put it to use while we still have it.

I sincerely hope SABR comes up with something to replace proquest. I'll be lost without it.

[runningshoes]

http://www.ajclay.com/PTC/pictures/730.jpg

[runningshoes]

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[ESPNFan]

His fighter plane was hit by enemy ground fire, and caught fire. Williams thought about ejecting, but because of his height (6'3"), he realized that his knees would be severely damaged, and his baseball career would be over, he chose to take the chance of brining his plane in. Luckily for himself and baseball, he was successful.

Here is a great website that tells the (abbriviated) story of my favorite Red Sox/Marine/Philanthopist.

Semper Fi!

http://www.boston.com/sports/redsox/williams/stories/gone2.shtml

[Honus Wagner Rules]

We have ex-wives. No real Marine is ever an "ex".

Reservists are often called to active duty during war time. And, eeven if not called up, a Marine is a Marine, PERIOD!!!

Bob
Of course! I have deep respect for the men and women that serve their county. A Marine is a Marine!

[Honus Wagner Rules]

Great job in finding those articles, runningshoes. :clapping