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jimmyjimjimz
11-20-2008, 12:35 PM
Looks nice in that photo but it is very very tiny... not sure how Randy Johnson walked around the ceiling is very low.

I don't think the ceiling is THAT low.

Jpiarull
11-20-2008, 01:13 PM
I can't wait to take a tour of New Yankee Stadium after it is totally completed and to see a ballgame next April there. The designers really got it right with the frieze and neon blue light.
Nice Job!:cap:

GordonGecko
11-20-2008, 01:14 PM
That was almost a Manhattan quote

Wall-E
11-20-2008, 01:30 PM
That was almost a Manhattan quote

His last sentence was un-Manhattan like. I wish Manhattan would change his name to like "Atlanta" or something.. (if I offended anyone from Atlanta please be aware that I meant that in the sense of "any other city" not just Atlanta. Well, maybe Atlanta a little. Sorry. Hugs?)

Rob R
11-20-2008, 03:53 PM
The first two things I look for when I visit this forum are photos of NYS and quotes from Manhattan, not necessarily in that order. Or should I say: I will visit the Baseball Fever Forum to see the photos of the New Yankee Stadium and i will also visit the Baseball Fever Forum to see the quotes from Manhattan.

Rob R
11-20-2008, 04:05 PM
The new lockers look like a dresser or TV cabinet in a cheap motel. No big deal to me because the rest of the stadium looks outstanding.

80SHOCK
11-20-2008, 04:29 PM
The new lockers look like a dresser or TV cabinet in a cheap motel. No big deal to me because the rest of the stadium looks outstanding.

:sigh::yawn::disbelief::faint:

Kentucky Bomber
11-20-2008, 04:40 PM
His last sentence was un-Manhattan like. I wish Manhattan would change his name to like "Atlanta" or something.. (if I offended anyone from Atlanta please be aware that I meant that in the sense of "any other city" not just Atlanta. Well, maybe Atlanta a little. Sorry. Hugs?)

How about Wasilla?

mrakbaseball
11-20-2008, 04:49 PM
New Yankee Stadium thread.

yankees82
11-20-2008, 05:21 PM
check out this marriage proposal at NYS found on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FYx3w64Dn0

jimmyjimjimz
11-20-2008, 07:47 PM
check out this marriage proposal at NYS found on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FYx3w64Dn0

BOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wish she said no. That woulda been funny. Once, someone said no at a basketball game. I gotta find the video. I'll post it when I find it.

edit:
I don't think this is the one I was thinking of, but the girl says no in this one too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JraEYwvW-s&feature=related

h-man
11-20-2008, 07:48 PM
taking joy in others misery... real nice.

Cool Papa B.
11-20-2008, 08:21 PM
The new lockers look like a dresser or TV cabinet in a cheap motel. No big deal to me because the rest of the stadium looks outstanding.

Actually, if you compare the lockers at NYS to other lockers in other stadiums, these lockers are bigger and have more storage space. The lockers at CYS are basically dividers with hooks in them. And no one else in baseball has internet access at each locker! With the way the NYS clubhouse is set up the players could practically live there
Also I've been on tours of CTS and I was surprised at how small the clubhouse is.

Wall-E
11-20-2008, 08:23 PM
Anyway, to get back on-topic, does anybody know which players are getting hung in the Great Hall? Figure Joey D, Mickey, Lou, and the Babe are locks but who else?

applenut
11-20-2008, 08:47 PM
Anyway, to get back on-topic, does anybody know which players are getting hung in the Great Hall? Figure Joey D, Mickey, Lou, and the Babe are locks but who else?

apparently Don Mattingly

yankies4life
11-20-2008, 08:59 PM
apparently Don Mattingly

awkward

id imagine jeter, arod, mo and posada

jimmyjimjimz
11-20-2008, 09:18 PM
Anyway, to get back on-topic, does anybody know which players are getting hung in the Great Hall? Figure Joey D, Mickey, Lou, and the Babe are locks but who else?

I'd say probably the guys with their numbers retired.

NYaDiO
11-20-2008, 09:44 PM
I think Jeter will be the most likely modern player up there, since he is considered to get that no. 2 retired when he retires.

Cool Papa B.
11-20-2008, 09:52 PM
awkward

id imagine jeter, arod, mo and posada

One of the renderings showed Casey Stengel also

h-man
11-20-2008, 10:16 PM
on the otherside of mattingly is maris

SparkyL
11-21-2008, 05:13 AM
They will probably rotate thru the players as the banners are not permanent.

My question is what else will be in the Great Hall. As someone mentioned about 40 pages ago, it will be a bit disappointing if the GH turns out to be a big empty void.

DM23MVP
11-21-2008, 06:33 AM
awkward

id imagine jeter, arod, mo and posada

How is Mattingly "awkward"? Just curious.

He is a great Yankee and deserves a place in the Great Hall.

NYBase
11-21-2008, 06:37 AM
From the renderings and construction pictures u can see a pattern....

staring from the outfield side of the great hall the pictures are in black and white and are of older legends

starting from the main gate side of the great hall the pictures are in color and feature newer fan favorites like mattingly

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Fsh7GWfK4f0/SSL9chomvdI/AAAAAAAAD4w/EepaHDtBcGk/s1600-h/IMG_6107.jpg

New York Kid
11-21-2008, 06:54 AM
How about Wasilla?

You Betcha.

New York Kid
11-21-2008, 06:59 AM
I will visit the Baseball Fever Forum to see the photos of the New Yankee Stadium and i will also visit the Baseball Fever Forum to see the quotes from Manhattan.



Manhattan will be in the Bronx next summer.

yankies4life
11-21-2008, 09:34 AM
How is Mattingly "awkward"? Just curious.

He is a great Yankee and deserves a place in the Great Hall.


Its awkward because he was so vocal against the Yankees in not mentioning Joe Torre in the Final Game video, along with the fact that he was denied the managerial role for the club. It seems like hes kinda on the out with the organization, which is a real shame.

GordonGecko
11-21-2008, 10:26 AM
Manhattan will be in the Bronx next summer.

Did you know that there's actually a physical part of Manhattan in the Bronx? It's called Spuyten Duyvil and was severed from the island of Manhattan by a canal a long time ago. It's still officially part of the borough of Manhattan even though it's across the Harlem river :)

SparkyL
11-21-2008, 10:39 AM
From the renderings and construction pictures u can see a pattern....

staring from the outfield side of the great hall the pictures are in black and white and are of older legends

starting from the main gate side of the great hall the pictures are in color and feature newer fan favorites like mattingly

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Fsh7GWfK4f0/SSL9chomvdI/AAAAAAAAD4w/EepaHDtBcGk/s1600-h/IMG_6107.jpg

How long before that interlocking NY below the banner is replaced with BoA?

GordonGecko
11-21-2008, 10:50 AM
How long before that interlocking NY below the banner is replaced with BoA?

Not any time soon, BoA stock just hit a 52week low and is barely trading above 10 bucks a share. You can bet all the execs will have "spending freeze" tatooed all over their foreheads for some time

YanksRule
11-21-2008, 11:12 AM
Not any time soon, BoA stock just hit a 52week low and is barely trading above 10 bucks a share. You can bet all the execs will have "spending freeze" tatooed all over their foreheads for some time

Yeah, but remember the runner up on that premier ad thing was Chase, and that may be a bigger blow to BoA than spending the money for advertising, especially considering BoA always advertises it's the official bank of MLB and all that stuff, and then for Yankee Stadium to be covered with Chase logo's.. that nullifies a lot of the advertising BoA has been doing, which may be worse for them.

Granted, Chase is down a lot also, actually a larger percentage than BoA, so who knows if they still want it, and BoA could have already signed a contract.

kobathecat
11-21-2008, 12:00 PM
It may be hard for companies to justify spending all that money on naming rights in this economy. True, you need to advertise, especially in bad times, but companies seeking federal bailouts will be under scrutiny. If the mergers, aquisitions and bankruptcies continue it may not matter anyway, since there will only be one left. We can just call it 'Bank'.

jimmyjimjimz
11-21-2008, 12:08 PM
Yeah, but remember the runner up on that premier ad thing was Chase, and that may be a bigger blow to BoA than spending the money for advertising, especially considering BoA always advertises it's the official bank of MLB and all that stuff, and then for Yankee Stadium to be covered with Chase logo's.. that nullifies a lot of the advertising BoA has been doing, which may be worse for them.

Granted, Chase is down a lot also, actually a larger percentage than BoA, so who knows if they still want it, and BoA could have already signed a contract.

Doesn't Chase own a baseball team? I know there's a stadium called Chase Field. That's why I'm thinking that they own the team.

But if that was the case, Safeco Field would be called Nintendo Field or Mario Stadium or Link Ballpark or maybe even The Zelda Grounds. They'd also have a Donkey Kong Alley somewhere in the stadium, and they'd probably have Pokemon seats somewhere. Maybe they'd even call it Bowser Stadium or Ganondorf Field.

Anyway, all jokes aside, I found this on Yankees.com

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081121&content_id=3687673&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy


A chilly wind whipped across 161st Street in the Bronx this week, blowing out the old and bringing in the new as early winter weather began to set in.
By the time March rolls around toward another baseball season, the new Yankee Stadium north of 161st will be ready to open, while the old ballpark just to the south may be coming down girder by girder. The Yankees turn over the old Yankee Stadium to the city of New York on March 1, and by the end of that month, demolition could begin.

Meanwhile, the Yanks are supposed to have access to the new ballpark by Feb. 17. Even though the main work at the new facility appears to be done, there's a lot of hustle and bustle ahead with the handoff little more than 12 weeks away.

"That's the way it always is in these big projects," said Harry Olsen, the project manager for the site from the beginning. "You scramble right up to the end, but it gets done."

The Yankees have already scheduled dry-run exhibition games against the Chicago Cubs on April 3 and 4, with Opening Day slated against the Cleveland Indians on April 16.

The sod is now in waiting, completely planted in October. This week, a bulldozer turned over the infield dirt and a landscaper trimmed the infield grass with an old-fashioned power mower.

Across the way, the plaques and monuments have been removed from the old stadium and are stored in a truck. In the new stadium, Monument Park will be in dead center, behind and above the fence. Visitors will have access through a glass-enclosed box directly above it and within the batter's eye.

For safety and security reasons, the monuments and plaques now stored in the old stadium will be among the last objects moved across the street.

The new stadium is opulent in its immensity. It is a throwback to the times when ballparks were called stadiums, and rightfully so.

Overall, construction is about 90 percent complete, down now to the trim and the finishes. Almost all of the dark blue seats have been installed, save for the lower-deck club seats and the Legend boxes located down the foul lines.

The construction appears right on target and the privately funded $1.3 billion stadium -- which was the brainchild of Yankees chairman George Steinbrenner -- should be nothing short of spectacular.

The new stadium pays homage to the original edifice erected across the Harlem River from the Polo Grounds. The Yankees shared that old horseshoe-shaped park in Manhattan with the Giants from 1913-22. They inhabited the old stadium for the last 85 years, save for two seasons -- 1974-75 -- when the Yanks played at Shea Stadium while the ballpark was undergoing a $160 million renovation paid for by New York City.

The original stadium was built by Yankee ownership at the cost of $2.5 million. Since the renovation, it has been operated by the New York Park and Recreation Department, which will make the decision when to tear it down.

The Yanks are currently negotiating with that entity to sell the seats and other objects from the old stadium.

In the case of Shea Stadium, which is already under demolition, Park and Recreation is salvaging toilets and other fixtures to be used in parks throughout the city, while the Mets have been selling the seats and almost everything else.

Save for the monuments -- and home plate, which was moved to the new stadium earlier this month -- the old Yankee Stadium stands pretty much intact, its 55,000 faded blue seats waiting to endure another winter.

At the new park, Yankees officials dug up those initial Yankee Stadium architectural plans and from it relocated the famous curved and striped "frieze" that hovered high above the bleachers in the renovated ballpark back to where it once was: running around the stadium below the lights on the fringe of the upper deck overhang from left field all the way around to right.

The new stadium is airy and open, with complete views of the field from every concourse, rest room and concession stand, no matter what level. The congestion in the concourses and the problems of ingress and egress in the old stadium are now left in the past.

Like the original stadium, the auxiliary scoreboards are located on the fences in left-center and right-center fields. Those scoreboards are hand-operated, and the one in left-center was installed this week.

The new yard will seat 53,000, but every one of those seats has an unencumbered view of home plate, even though the new stadium reaches about the same height as the old one.

Most of the seats are much closer to the field than the old stadium, where the catcher squatted about 70 feet from the backstop. In the new park, that distance is about 50 feet.

The field dimensions are identical to the old stadium: 318 feet down the left-field line, 314 feet down the right-field line, 408 feet in dead center, 399 feet in left-center and 385 in right-center.

Around the concourses, the concession stands are in and the cleanup is under way. In five months, it will be alive with crowds and there will be baseball to be played.

jnakamura
11-21-2008, 12:13 PM
The new stadium is airy and open, with complete views of the field from every concourse, rest room and concession stand, no matter what level.

This means you can see the entire field when you're walking on all the concourses, standing on line for a beer or taking a leak. Great! :applaud:

GordonGecko
11-21-2008, 12:18 PM
This means you can see the entire field when you're walking on all the concourses, standing on line for a beer or taking a leak. Great! :applaud:

I seriously doubt you can see the entire field. And seeing any part of the field is also probably a stretch for most parts. If you're standing on the walkway then yeah, that's a different story

YankeeFanBx
11-21-2008, 12:48 PM
90% complete, sounds good to me! They must be doing lots of work inside and I can hardly wait till April and the first game at New Yankee Stadium.:nod::clapping:crazy:applaud::applaud:

DM23MVP
11-21-2008, 12:56 PM
Its awkward because he was so vocal against the Yankees in not mentioning Joe Torre in the Final Game video, along with the fact that he was denied the managerial role for the club. It seems like hes kinda on the out with the organization, which is a real shame.

I wouldn't say that he was on the out with the organization, especially not over the managerial situation, he was very understanding about that and stepped away from the club so that he wouldn't be a distraction to Girardi.

As far as the Torre thing, he made some comments, but I don't think that they were that bad, he felt that Torre should've been mentioned, but so did a lot of other people, including myself. I don't think that either Donnie or the Yankee organization have any ill will towards each other, and had he not been with the Dodgers organization at the time, he would've been at the Stadium finale, as well as Old Timer's Day.

Rob R
11-21-2008, 01:00 PM
This means you can see the entire field when you're walking on all the concourses, standing on line for a beer or taking a leak. Great! :applaud:
The ability to pee on David Ortiz's head while standing at the urinal. How great is that?

curb my enthusiasm
11-21-2008, 01:49 PM
Hopefully they have TV's in the restrooms so that you don't have to miss any of the game while taking care of "business".

Yankeefan3783
11-21-2008, 01:52 PM
Hopefully they have TV's in the restrooms so that you don't have to miss any of the game while taking care of "business".

I think they do. Also, it will be nice to go get some food without missing an entire inning.

SparkyL
11-21-2008, 01:59 PM
In the new stadium, Monument Park will be in dead center, behind and above the fence. Visitors will have access through a glass-enclosed box directly above it and within the batter's eye.

Interesting . . . isn't the "glass enclosed box" (the CF resturaunt) the batter's eye??

SparkyL
11-21-2008, 02:18 PM
The new stadium is airy and open, with complete views of the field from every concourse, rest room and concession stand, no matter what level.

This means you can see the entire field when you're walking on all the concourses, standing on line for a beer or taking a leak. Great! :applaud:


I seriously doubt you can see the entire field. And seeing any part of the field is also probably a stretch for most parts. If you're standing on the walkway then yeah, that's a different story

This is one of this biggest misnomers of split decks and open-to-the-field concourses. The only concourse that you will be able to have a complete view of the field is the field level. The higher you go the closer to the edge you will need to be to see the field. On the Terrace level you will need to be right at the edge (unless you have x-ray vision to see thru the concrete). From the Terrace concession stands you will have a full view of the CF scoreboard and the Bronx skyline.

And from the restrooms . . . there will be TV monitors (unless they provide peek holes).

seeknay22
11-21-2008, 05:17 PM
"Like the original stadium, the auxiliary scoreboards are located on the fences in left-center and right-center fields. Those scoreboards are hand-operated, and the one in left-center was installed this week. "

Does anyone have a picture of this?

Bobby_Ayala
11-21-2008, 06:08 PM
Also, it will be nice to go get some food without missing an entire inning.

Very nice, welcome to the 21st century New York. :waving:

Wall-E
11-21-2008, 06:17 PM
Very nice, welcome to the 21st century New York. :waving:

Wait a minute. Aren't you the woman obsessed character?

80SHOCK
11-21-2008, 06:18 PM
More then anything the Auxiliary Scoreboards will be more for show then being relied on for actually game updates. But still it's a very nice touch by the Yankees.

Bobby_Ayala
11-21-2008, 06:27 PM
Wait a minute. Aren't you the woman obsessed character?

Women are my pastime, if you will. Carry on about New Yankee Stadium construction updates. Enjoying the progress.:nod: I will see New Yankee Stadium with my own eyes. Yes, :think: also thru the eyes of a beautiful young women. :cool: No more fights. embrace the present and the future. It is here. Also, Mattingly is enjoying the ambience of SoCal. Mr. Hal and Mr. Hank now have autonomy. Thank you Mr. George S. for your years of service. :applaud:

Rob R
11-21-2008, 07:34 PM
I run my fingers through her dark, silky, luxurious hair as I plant a kiss on her full, pillow-soft, waiting lips. I stare deeply into her soulful eyes. I see New Yankee Stadium.

SparkyL
11-21-2008, 07:52 PM
What ever happened to that guy in the blimp? We need new high-res aerial shots, and fast!

SparkyL
11-21-2008, 08:00 PM
This was posted on the CitiField thread - Coors Field. Boy that large upper desk would have looked sweet in NYS :( Plus by shrinking the second level a bit, the upper deck would have been moved in closer.

Plus, for the upper concourse at NYS, I wish they would have put the concessions under the seating deck and really opened up the concourse (and allowed views to Manhattan - the place not the person).

Wall-E
11-21-2008, 08:06 PM
This was posted on the CitiField thread - Coors Field. Boy that large upper desk would have looked sweet in NYS :( Plus by shrinking the second level a bit, the upper deck would have been moved in closer.

Plus, for the upper concourse at NYS, I wish they would have put the concessions under the seating deck and really opened up the concourse (and allowed views to Manhattan - the place not the person).

Sparky, Coors Field has an upperdeck that is really far away. What people keep forgetting about NYS' upperdeck is that it's pretty much average as far as how far away it is. It's like this because NYS' field level is only 15 rows deep, while Citi Field's and Coors are a good 25-30. That's a 30 foot difference. Plus, there is a good 10-20 foot cantilever over the main level, and while that's nothing like the 100 ft one at OYS, it's still pretty good for a modern ballpark.

Open split-upperdeck concourses are great. Busch Stadium has a great set up, and it allows for some concessions/stands to sell treats right on the edge of the concourse (so you can check out the game).

However you're right about the whole Manhattan skyline thing....there needs to be a "sight deck" or "viewing deck" with a few binoculars so you can check out that view. The view from Yankee Stadium of Manhattan is hard to beat.

Yankees12
11-21-2008, 08:12 PM
Sparky, Coors Field has an upperdeck that is really far away. What people keep forgetting about NYS' upperdeck is that it's pretty much average as far as how far away it is. It's like this because NYS' field level is only 15 rows deep, while Citi Field's and Coors are a good 25-30. That's a 30 foot difference. Plus, there is a good 10-20 foot cantilever over the main level, and while that's nothing like the 100 ft one at OYS, it's still pretty good for a modern ballpark.

The upper deck cantilever at NYS is pretty good for a modern park - way above average, most likely. It doesn't top Citi Field's cantilever, but it isn't that bad. Still, I would've liked to seen it cantilevered more.

The field level, when including the Legends Suites, is 30 rows, I believe. So it's not really that different from other stadiums, I don't think.

Wall-E
11-21-2008, 08:21 PM
The upper deck cantilever at NYS is pretty good for a modern park - way above average, most likely. It doesn't top Citi Field's cantilever, but it isn't that bad. Still, I would've liked to seen it cantilevered more.

The field level, when including the Legends Suites, is 30 rows, I believe. So it's not really that different from other stadiums, I don't think.

I counted around 18-19 in the field level including the legends. It's less than average. Course more cantilever is always good, but I think NYS is going to have on great upper deck. It won't be as steep and it will have much better sightlines. A great mix of sight and closeness. I'm not worried about it as much as I once was.

80SHOCK
11-21-2008, 08:26 PM
Sparky, Coors Field has an upperdeck that is really far away. What people keep forgetting about NYS' upperdeck is that it's pretty much average as far as how far away it is. It's like this because NYS' field level is only 15 rows deep, while Citi Field's and Coors are a good 25-30. That's a 30 foot difference. Plus, there is a good 10-20 foot cantilever over the main level, and while that's nothing like the 100 ft one at OYS, it's still pretty good for a modern ballpark.

Open split-upperdeck concourses are great. Busch Stadium has a great set up, and it allows for some concessions/stands to sell treats right on the edge of the concourse (so you can check out the game).

However you're right about the whole Manhattan skyline thing....there needs to be a "sight deck" or "viewing deck" with a few binoculars so you can check out that view. The view from Yankee Stadium of Manhattan is hard to beat.

I don't care about viewing a skyline if I have to use binoculars. Perhaps if the Yankees where aiming for a skyline backdrop they should have (I don't even know if they could have) positioned the stadium another way. Like have the bleachers, CF jumbotron, outfield etc facing the Manhattan skyline?

The 4 Train
11-21-2008, 08:40 PM
I think the problem is that if the stadium faces south west the sun gets in the players eyes, or something like that. Anyway, if they did want to flip the stadium around, half the people here would have called sacrilege.

florida_yankee_fan
11-21-2008, 09:12 PM
On MLB.com: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081121&content_id=3687673&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

mrakbaseball
11-21-2008, 11:42 PM
This was posted on the CitiField thread - Coors Field. Boy that large upper desk would have looked sweet in NYS :( Plus by shrinking the second level a bit, the upper deck would have been moved in closer.
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25 rows is "large"?


Sparky, Coors Field has an upperdeck that is really far away. What people keep forgetting about NYS' upperdeck is that it's pretty much average as far as how far away it is. It's like this because NYS' field level is only 15 rows deep, while Citi Field's and Coors are a good 25-30. That's a 30 foot difference. Plus, there is a good 10-20 foot cantilever over the main level, and while that's nothing like the 100 ft one at OYS, it's still pretty good for a modern ballpark.
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How far away is Coors' upper deck compared to NYS? Do you have a graph with facts and figures? Field level? Coors' "field" level has to have at least 40 rows. Much more than 25 or 30.
The 100 ft cantilever is a huge exaggeration. OYS was less than 60, maybe around 55' ish.
Find out the actual viewing distances of the various ballparks to compare. The distance from the last row of the 1st deck to home plate. The distance from the 1st row of the upper deck to the plate. The distance of the last row of the upper deck to home plate. When you have that info, it would really help determine how good the view is.

SparkyL
11-22-2008, 04:35 AM
Sparky, Coors Field has an upperdeck that is really far away. What people keep forgetting about NYS' upperdeck is that it's pretty much average as far as how far away it is. It's like this because NYS' field level is only 15 rows deep, while Citi Field's and Coors are a good 25-30. That's a 30 foot difference. Plus, there is a good 10-20 foot cantilever over the main level, and while that's nothing like the 100 ft one at OYS, it's still pretty good for a modern ballpark.

Open split-upperdeck concourses are great. Busch Stadium has a great set up, and it allows for some concessions/stands to sell treats right on the edge of the concourse (so you can check out the game).

However you're right about the whole Manhattan skyline thing....there needs to be a "sight deck" or "viewing deck" with a few binoculars so you can check out that view. The view from Yankee Stadium of Manhattan is hard to beat.

Maybe if they added 3-4 rows to the back of NYS's uppper deck it would look a bit more "impressive" - plus there would be some more seats for the "rest" of us.

BTW, for those who think that the back of the RYS's LF bleachers were far away, the Rockpile at Coors is far, and high.

secret77
11-22-2008, 05:48 AM
Hello, Steve here, native New Yorker and lifelong Yankee fan.

So I’ve been lurking around here and have been completely captivated since the very first posts of this thread, but this is my first time posting, so forgive me if I repeat something that’s been said here before, etc.

I’ve always enjoyed following the design and construction of new parks (and architecture in general), and couldn’t understand why the Yankees wouldn’t put some type of web cam or something to follow the progress of the new stadium (even the Mets did), but found this site/thread and it has been bliss and a comfort ever since.

I’m definitely a traditionalist, and since the announcement that they would be moving across the street and not at least rebuilding upon the historic footprint of the old field, I have been skeptical and vocal to anyone interested in listening in my disappointment in the franchise and the reasoning behind their decision-making.

In the past I would usually make it to about 5-10 games a year - no packages or season seats, just grab them as I could, however I could, but unfortunately a busy work travel schedule this Summer kept me from any games (as did the ticket prices towards the end). And to be honest, the feeling of let down that I mentioned in the last paragraph, of moving away from the historic footprint kind of made me not care about it at all this year.

A week or so back someone posted something about tours still happening at the old stadium, and never having done one, I thought it might be the perfect way to see the old place one more time and get closure on the whole thing, therapeutic if you will.

Granted to say I made my first trip down to the site on Thursday for a tour of the old place and to get my first in-person looks at the new.

I can wax poetic and ramble on forever about it, but basically; I was in awe. If ever there was a cathedral or something to rival the Roman Coliseum the new Yankee Stadium is it.

The majesty, how it sits atop a higher perch in the neighborhood, unobstructed by parking garages or large bats; the enormous and magnificent frieze, which I can tell you from being in back of the old and up close to the new, there is no comparison; the workmanship, the quality, stone and marble.. The photos that have been listed, as great as they are, do it no justice. I could go on and on.

At the end of the old stadium tour, I walked out of the dugout and through the seating area towards the exits saying one last time how I was going to miss this place, and as the tour ended, was the first out, dashing to marvel at the beauty rising across the street.

Here are some pics from my day, and thanks everyone for this incredible thread.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/32619882@N02/sets/72157609611270717/

Yankeefan3783
11-22-2008, 08:33 AM
I agree secret77.

Great pictures btw.

YankeeFanBx
11-22-2008, 01:33 PM
Secret77 I like the shots and agree with what you're saying. The NYS was needed and is an improvement of the old Yankee Stadium.
Welcome to Baseball-Fever.:waving

Cool Papa B.
11-22-2008, 01:56 PM
Well said Secrett 77. I've been on a few tours of CYS-last one being September 2008-and I've seen the NYS up close, pictures, models and all. This new stadium is a gem. I can't wait to see a game there and take a tour.

The Yankees always do things right. OYS was ahead of its time when it first opened; CYS was ahead of its time when it first opened; and now NYS. Now let's go out and win some World Championships!!!

GordonGecko
11-22-2008, 02:01 PM
Here are some pics from my day, and thanks everyone for this incredible thread.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/32619882@N02/sets/72157609611270717/

nice lamps

New York Kid
11-22-2008, 02:03 PM
Did you know that there's actually a physical part of Manhattan in the Bronx? It's called Spuyten Duyvil and was severed from the island of Manhattan by a canal a long time ago. It's still officially part of the borough of Manhattan even though it's across the Harlem river :)

Very cool info, Gordon! Still, even despite Spuyten Duyvil, Marble Hill [and all of us]: Manhattan will be in the Bronx next summer. :waving

bronxbombers2
11-22-2008, 08:51 PM
a little comparison of the NEw Yankee Stadium progress...



November 2006


November 2007


November 2008


Well guys, i think were still on schedule to be done by Opening Day.

jimmyjimjimz
11-22-2008, 09:10 PM
a little comparison of the NEw Yankee Stadium progress...



November 2006


November 2007


November 2008


Well guys, i think were still on schedule to be done by Opening Day.

I don't see any pictures

Wall-E
11-22-2008, 09:37 PM
I don't see any pictures

They're using the same invisibility coat as the rugs.

yankees82
11-22-2008, 10:34 PM
more youtube vids from NYS:

look closely in this one and you can see the auxillary scoreboard in LCF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdOHlBvns1Q

from the field. again, you can see the auxillary scoreboard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJTYbPsgpZo

quick view of the clubhouse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDC8R8w3yfk

Yankees12
11-22-2008, 10:44 PM
more youtube vids from NYS:

look closely in this one and you can see the auxillary scoreboard in LCF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdOHlBvns1Q

from the field. again, you can see the auxillary scoreboard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJTYbPsgpZo

quick view of the clubhouse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDC8R8w3yfk

Nice finds! I'm liking the auxiliary scoreboard!

And I love the clubhouse with the frieze but without the tacky neon lights. Looks nice and classy, unlike a YS-themed 70s nightclub.

florida_yankee_fan
11-22-2008, 11:16 PM
Good work finding these videos!:applaud:I agree with Yankees12;The lockeroom's frieze definitely looks much better in the video without the blue neon lighting IMO.

jimmyjimjimz
11-22-2008, 11:26 PM
They're using the same invisibility coat as the rugs.

I'm serious, dude. I don't see ANY pictures there. I don't care how much you hate me, but I really don't think anyone can see any pictures there.

YankeeFanBx
11-23-2008, 04:46 AM
Good work finding these videos!:applaud:I agree with Yankees12;The lockeroom's frieze definitely looks much better in the video without the blue neon lighting IMO.
I think the blue neon lighting gives the locker room a nice soothing warmth and it's there if we like it or not!:debate:

NYFan1stYankFan2nd
11-23-2008, 04:57 AM
I'm serious, dude. I don't see ANY pictures there. I don't care how much you hate me, but I really don't think anyone can see any pictures there.

Me neither. Just three postage stamp sized boxes with red Xs in them.

seeknay22
11-23-2008, 05:50 AM
Shouldn't the blue lighting on top of the frieze be covered with something? the BLUE is okay.. to be seen through the frieze.. but I dont get why it was left open on top of it.

SultanOfWhat
11-23-2008, 08:18 AM
Some pics I didn't notice on this thread (except the Mattingly banner pic), from Sliding into Home:

http://slidingintohome.blogspot.com/search/label/New%20Yankee%20Stadium

Go to the 11-18 post. There are about 25 pics. The place is really coming together, and looks better than the renderings.

Ralf
11-23-2008, 09:24 AM
So the Yankees are going to have a restaurant in LF too?

Wall-E
11-23-2008, 09:37 AM
So the Yankees are going to have a restaurant in LF too?



Yeah, it's a membership club restaurant. I'm thinking all suite people will have access to it, and us regulars will have to buy something prior to the game's start to get in.

Hey Ralf, what's your opinion with the LF Citi Restuarant? Those bars are going to be pretty obstructive for those inside right?

jimmyjimjimz
11-23-2008, 12:38 PM
So the Yankees are going to have a restaurant in LF too?



I don't see a picture there either. Just a red X, just like before.



Yeah, it's a membership club restaurant. I'm thinking all suite people will have access to it, and us regulars will have to buy something prior to the game's start to get in.

Hey Ralf, what's your opinion with the LF Citi Restuarant? Those bars are going to be pretty obstructive for those inside right?


Oh yeah, I almost forgot. My dad's company might be buying a suite, so if they do, I'll have access to that.

Rob R
11-23-2008, 12:45 PM
LF restaurant? What LF restaurant? There's an auxiliary scoreboard on the LF wall (like OYS) that you can see in a couple of the videos that some have commented on, but LF restaurant?

GordonGecko
11-23-2008, 12:48 PM
LF restaurant? What LF restaurant? There's an auxiliary scoreboard on the LF wall (like OYS) that you can see in a couple of the videos that some have commented on, but LF restaurant?

this one...

jimmyjimjimz
11-23-2008, 12:49 PM
LF restaurant? What LF restaurant? There's an auxiliary scoreboard on the LF wall (like OYS) that you can see in a couple of the videos that some have commented on, but LF restaurant?

there's a resturant on the suite level, that you can only go in if you're a member or if you own a suite. It's for people who own suites and their guests I guess.

Rob R
11-23-2008, 12:55 PM
this one...

Thanks. I've been following the stadium closely and I didn't even know that.

Rob R
11-23-2008, 12:55 PM
there's a resturant on the suite level, that you can only go in if you're a member or if you own a suite. It's for people who own suites and their guests I guess.
Thanks jimmy

DM23MVP
11-23-2008, 01:49 PM
I think the blue neon lighting gives the locker room a nice soothing warmth and it's there if we like it or not!:debate:

I agree, I think the blue lighting is nice. It doesn't matter anyway, the locker room is made for the players, not the fans, it doesn't matter what we think.

florida_yankee_fan
11-23-2008, 02:17 PM
Oh No....

Not another debate about another frieze!:D Everytime the Yankees build a new one,we go back and forth on the subject!:laugh

Note to Yankees:

Stop building anymore friezes.There are enough of them in the new stadium to keep us going clear into April!

jimmyjimjimz
11-23-2008, 03:00 PM
I agree, I think the blue lighting is nice. It doesn't matter anyway, the locker room is made for the players, not the fans, it doesn't matter what we think.

I like the blue lights too. It looks more modern with the blue lights.

Wall-E
11-23-2008, 04:26 PM
Oh No....

Not another debate about another frieze!:D Everytime the Yankees build a new one,we go back and forth on the subject!:laugh

Note to Yankees:

Stop building anymore friezes.There are enough of them in the new stadium to keep us going clear into April!

Meh. Another frieze or two would be fine.

Wall-E
11-23-2008, 04:28 PM
Guys, does it really matter? Is it as if we're going to go to the stadium next year and say:

"Jesus, the baseball experience here is dreadful. I can't focus on the game since all I'm thinking about is how ugly that frieze two levels below me is!"

It doesn't matter. I think it looks fine, and the locker room will be a pleasant sight to see during postgame interviews next year.

florida_yankee_fan
11-23-2008, 04:39 PM
Hopefully those post game interviews will extend into the post season--and that clubhouse frieze will be drenched with champagne;)

Wall-E
11-23-2008, 05:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSMw0zJLleg

One more video from the food court. I recommend watching in high quality: this stadium is a gem.

donut726
11-23-2008, 07:21 PM
courtesy Ron Greco on flickr

Aurelius15
11-23-2008, 07:30 PM
I guess I'm the only one who thinks the Locker room looks awesome. I think the neon lights behind the frieze is a nice touch. And its not like they're putting those lights everywhere. I thinks it's looking great, I love the lockers and the idea of internet access at every locker. And I definitely like that the shape of the room is oval. I can't wait to see the finished product.

I think that having the blue neon light behind the frieze makes it look dull and gray. I think if they were to use maybe white light behind it, then it would look much better.

Jalper79
11-23-2008, 08:00 PM
Maybe this has been discussed before, maybe not.....
But anyone know (or can figure out) where the camera positions are going to be (besides CF)?

SparkyL
11-23-2008, 08:28 PM
courtesy Ron Greco on flickr

Here's the link to the nice hi-res shots. There's also a 3rd pic on top of the CF video board. Nice stop on the tour, eh?

http://flickr.com/photos/rongreco/3055056056/in/photostream/

SparkyL
11-23-2008, 08:31 PM
Maybe this has been discussed before, maybe not.....
But anyone know (or can figure out) where the camera positions are going to be (besides CF)?

They were shown on the blueprints, many pages back . . . down the line and power ally cameras; in addition to the 1st and 3rd base ones on the 2nd level.

SparkyL
11-23-2008, 08:33 PM
I think that having the blue neon light behind the frieze makes it look dull and gray. I think if they were to use maybe white light behind it, then it would look much better.

Actually, I think that they were going with a light/dark contrast. While light behind a white frieze would have provided little contrast.

As was previously mentioned, if they could keep the light from leaking onto the ceiling it might look better.

Rob R
11-23-2008, 09:05 PM
Nice hi-res shot. The more I see the lush, green field the more I don't want the checkerboard pattern. It looks spectacular as is and any design will distract from it.

SparkyL
11-24-2008, 04:23 AM
Here's the link to the nice hi-res shots. There's also a 3rd pic on top of the CF video board. Nice stop on the tour, eh?

http://flickr.com/photos/rongreco/3055056056/in/photostream/

Too bad the upper deck pic was zoomed in . . . or we could have combined them for a top-to-bottom pic. But I do think that with these "head-on" shots, we can see how the vertical white bars at the back of the UD compete with the frieze.

SparkyL
11-24-2008, 04:50 AM
Our first look at the interior signage. (from Sliding into Home)

To me this looks rather bland, like it could be anywhere, especially a nondescript hotel or office building.

I was hoping for something uniquely NYS - such as a Yankee blue background, with a font that matches the "YANKEE STADIUM" letters, and a frieze running along the top (like the single bar on top of all NYC subway signs).

They could have done MUCH better than this.


{Notice the "Delta Sky 360 Suite." Could this be the Membership Resturaunt? Or the Club Suite?}

peterrod16
11-24-2008, 05:12 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/sports/sports-us-delta-yankees.html?_r=1

November 24, 2008
Delta to Sponsor New York Yankees: Report
By REUTERS
Filed at 4:27 a.m. ET

(Reuters) - Delta Air Lines is set to announce later on Monday that it will become the official airline of the New York Yankees, the New York Post said.

As part of a marketing deal, Delta will have a luxury suite behind home plate at the new Yankee Stadium, slated to open in the spring, according to the paper.

Delta is also the official airline of the city's other baseball team, the Mets.

A Delta spokeswoman declined to comment on the report.

The New York Yankees could not immediately be reached for comment by Reuters.

YanksRule
11-24-2008, 08:07 AM
{Notice the "Delta Sky 360 Suite." Could this be the Membership Resturaunt? Or the Club Suite?}

The Sky 360 Suite my guess is the food court for the Sky Suites

Pinstripes
11-24-2008, 08:08 AM
Too bad the upper deck pic was zoomed in . . . or we could have combined them for a top-to-bottom pic. But I do think that with these "head-on" shots, we can see how the vertical white bars at the back of the UD compete with the frieze.That picture was taken from the top of the big screen in CF. While, yes, from that angle, there's a bit of a "competition" for the frieze, let's remember two things: 1) That was a cloudy, overcast day. Even on the rare game that are both day games and are overcast like that one, the lights will be on, and from what we've seen, the lights actually make the frieze stand out even more. 2) Most of angles that we see of the stadium, especially on TV, will be from a much lower angle, and will therefore not have the bars visually directly behind the frieze.


Our first look at the interior signage. (from Sliding into Home)

To me this looks rather bland, like it could be anywhere, especially a nondescript hotel or office building.

I was hoping for something uniquely NYS - such as a Yankee blue background, with a font that matches the "YANKEE STADIUM" letters, and a frieze running along the top (like the single bar on top of all NYC subway signs).

They could have done MUCH better than this.People are complaining that there's already too much beating you over the head telling you it's Yankee Stadium. You don't want to overdo the frieze. The signage is fine. It's the same as the old stadium, for the most part. There will be plenty of stuff all over (especially those banners in the great hall) letting you know it's Yankee stadium. I don't think anyone will forget where they are. Plus, you want directional signs to stand out from "everything else" so that people can easily identify them out of all the other posters, advertising, banners, etc.

SparkyL
11-24-2008, 10:07 AM
People are complaining that there's already too much beating you over the head telling you it's Yankee Stadium. You don't want to overdo the frieze. The signage is fine. It's the same as the old stadium, for the most part. There will be plenty of stuff all over (especially those banners in the great hall) letting you know it's Yankee stadium. I don't think anyone will forget where they are. Plus, you want directional signs to stand out from "everything else" so that people can easily identify them out of all the other posters, advertising, banners, etc.

I wasn't looking for anything that will overdo "you're at Yankee Stadium" - just something a bit more interesting than white letters on black. I was hoping for an art deco font to tie back to the 1920's . . . . but using the times roman font used for the YS signs would have at least given consistancy. And no reason to not use Yankee blue as the background color.

Johan Wright
11-24-2008, 11:49 AM
just a point petco park looks really nice there...i can only hope nys and citi will look as good

Ralf
11-24-2008, 11:50 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/sports/sports-us-delta-yankees.html?_r=1

November 24, 2008
Delta to Sponsor New York Yankees: Report
By REUTERS
Filed at 4:27 a.m. ET

(Reuters) - Delta Air Lines is set to announce later on Monday that it will become the official airline of the New York Yankees, the New York Post said.

As part of a marketing deal, Delta will have a luxury suite behind home plate at the new Yankee Stadium, slated to open in the spring, according to the paper.

Delta is also the official airline of the city's other baseball team, the Mets.

A Delta spokeswoman declined to comment on the report.

The New York Yankees could not immediately be reached for comment by Reuters.

Yankees biting off of the Mets Delta relationship.

In other new, will NYS lose its BOA sponsorship?

http://www.247wallst.com/2008/11/does-bank-of-am.html

NYBase
11-24-2008, 12:17 PM
Delta is an awful awful airline :sorry:

Ralf
11-24-2008, 12:33 PM
Delta is an awful awful airline :sorry:

As someone who travels a lot, I say its actually the best major domestic airline.

jeremy51
11-24-2008, 12:34 PM
This picture had me wondering, why are they not finishing these sections above the lower facade with limestone?

Ralf
11-24-2008, 12:36 PM
This picture had me wondering, why are they not finishing these sections above the lower facade with limestone?

Because they've already spent 1.7 BILLION dollars on the stadium?

SparkyL
11-24-2008, 12:40 PM
This picture had me wondering, why are they not finishing these sections above the lower facade with limestone?

Part of the old transitioning to the new. Same reason they have the more modernistic upper deck.

I agree - it would have looked nicer with limestone.

soup
11-24-2008, 01:08 PM
I think the bare block would look better than that stuff they're putting up over it

80SHOCK
11-24-2008, 01:56 PM
Part of the old transitioning to the new. Same reason they have the more modernistic upper deck.

I agree - it would have looked nicer with limestone.


I don't think they was in the original plans though. If you look at earlier renderings/photos limestone was suppose to be there. The cost of the stadium (original price was $800 million) exceeded. And as a way to cover up what needs to be covered they went cheap.
I do admit, I don't like the way that looks in the front for all to see. It's one thing to have that silver boarding in the back of the new stadium (where the the train tracks are) where no one sees it.
I'm already pissed that there is no second deck facade like the original YS had now they got silver cheap crap on it. They could have just put that light tannish/beige looking brick that they are putting various places through out the stadium instead of that silver board. Even that would have looked better.

Gary Dunaier
11-24-2008, 02:06 PM
It's one thing to have that silver boarding in the back of the new stadium (where the the train tracks are) where no one sees it.

What about the people who ride the #4 train north of 161st Street? They see it.

What about the people who live in 70 East 162nd Street, whose windows directly face the back of the right field stands? They see it all the time, through windows that used to have a view of Macombs Dam Park.

:mad:

80SHOCK
11-24-2008, 02:21 PM
What about the people who ride the #4 train north of 161st Street? They see it.

What about the people who live in 70 East 162nd Street, whose windows directly face the back of the right field stands? They see it all the time, through windows that used to have a view of Macombs Dam Park.

:mad:

Come on you know what I mean. With those kinds of views is it that much more important looking at limestone instead?

YanksRule
11-24-2008, 02:55 PM
I wasn't looking for anything that will overdo "you're at Yankee Stadium" - just something a bit more interesting than white letters on black. I was hoping for an art deco font to tie back to the 1920's . . . . but using the times roman font used for the YS signs would have at least given consistancy. And no reason to not use Yankee blue as the background color.

Before you judge too soon, remember you don't know where that sign is going.. perhaps that is going into the suite lounge where simple and classy is all they need. Or also that could only be a part of a sign, like they got in bulk a border decoration and then the signs slip in them, that way the borders are cheaper to make and the actual sign can be replaced out once Delta loses it's sponsorship or something...

Rob R
11-24-2008, 03:19 PM
just a point petco park looks really nice there...i can only hope nys and citi will look as good

Just my opinion, but I think that NYS and Citi already look better. To me, Petco looks too busy and pretentious, including a silly "fake' warehouse incorporated into the stands to force a certain look. Also the interior looks too-atrium like to me.

DM23MVP
11-24-2008, 03:23 PM
This picture had me wondering, why are they not finishing these sections above the lower facade with limestone?

When it's done, you won't even notice it. It will look good, just like it does in the renderings.

Rob R
11-24-2008, 03:32 PM
I don't think they was in the original plans though. If you look at earlier renderings/photos limestone was suppose to be there. The cost of the stadium (original price was $800 million) exceeded. And as a way to cover up what needs to be covered they went cheap.


In most of the original renderings I've seen, the band is either gray or brown-ish and the surface looks different than the limestone.

I might be wrong, but after all the money spent, I doubt that in the middle of a project they decided not to cover a visible section like that with limestone because they couldn't afford it. They'd have cut cost elsewhere, where it's less visible. I too think it would look better in limestone, but I believe that this was their intent from the beginning.

donut726
11-24-2008, 03:58 PM
this is one of the blueprints from fairly early on, so it was already decided a while back that those walls were going to be covered up by "metal panels".

80SHOCK
11-24-2008, 04:02 PM
this is one of the blueprints from fairly early on, so it was already decided a while back that those walls were going to be covered up by "metal panels".

Awful decision then. :dismay:

SparkyL
11-24-2008, 04:29 PM
In most of the original renderings I've seen, the band is either gray or brown-ish and the surface looks different than the limestone.

I might be wrong, but after all the money spent, I doubt that in the middle of a project they decided not to cover a visible section like that with limestone because they couldn't afford it. They'd have cut cost elsewhere, where it's less visible. I too think it would look better in limestone, but I believe that this was their intent from the beginning.

The original artist renderings (pre-formal blueprints, from which the computer renderings were produced) showed limestone behind the concession areas.

SparkyL
11-24-2008, 04:34 PM
While we are in comparison mode, check out the original rendering of Monument Park (notice the 2 levels of the resturaunt) and the computer rendering of what they are actually building.

It is amazing how much license the artists take when they draw this stuff up . . . .

Wall-E
11-24-2008, 04:38 PM
Alright guys: big news.

You know the guy who just recently posted those four videos of NYS? Well I actually contacted him via Youtube and he has agreed to upload a good 100 pictures as well as sit down in an "interview" of sorts with me to discuss everything he saw and heard. So, what are some questions you would like asked by me? I think a good 15-20 would be great and I'll post all of the answers within the next few days.

NYFan1stYankFan2nd
11-24-2008, 04:40 PM
While we are in comparison mode, check out the original rendering of Monument Park (notice the 2 levels of the resturaunt) and the computer rendering of what they are actually building.

It is amazing how much license the artists take when they draw this stuff up . . . .

Sparky DO NOT let this one drift too far down! Do you dig what I'm hinting at? A TRIPLE play comparison of the two you've already got + a photo of the completed Monument park from the same angle/distance with the restaurant overhead and the LF stands in the distance. :)

NYFan1stYankFan2nd
11-24-2008, 04:44 PM
The original artist renderings (pre-formal blueprints, from which the computer renderings were produced) showed limestone behind the concession areas.

If only, if only, IF ONLY the concept artists hadn't put those suitcase BLUE LETTERS up in some of those renderings - they might never have existed today! At least someone like me has enough intellect and taste to know they don't belong.

80SHOCK
11-24-2008, 04:52 PM
Alright guys: big news.

You know the guy who just recently posted those four videos of NYS? Well I actually contacted him via Youtube and he has agreed to upload a good 100 pictures as well as sit down in an "interview" of sorts with me to discuss everything he saw and heard. So, what are some questions you would like asked by me? I think a good 15-20 would be great and I'll post all of the answers within the next few days.


Okay, ask him will there be benches in front of the dugout (inside). Because I noticed in the updated pictures that the platform that was once there (that was likely going to serve the purpose to have front of the dugout benches) is gone.

SparkyL
11-24-2008, 05:00 PM
Alright guys: big news.

You know the guy who just recently posted those four videos of NYS? Well I actually contacted him via Youtube and he has agreed to upload a good 100 pictures as well as sit down in an "interview" of sorts with me to discuss everything he saw and heard. So, what are some questions you would like asked by me? I think a good 15-20 would be great and I'll post all of the answers within the next few days.

1) Will the bleachers still be seperate from the rest of the stadium, as they were in RYS? Can all fans access the CF food court or just bleacher ticketholders?

2) How will "regular" fans access Monument Park?

3) What will happen when it rains and the Great Hall gets soaked?

4) What happened to the platform in the front of the dugouts?

5) What is it like in Monument Park? Does it feel all closed in with the CF wall and part of it under the CF resturaunt?

6) Where is the CF camera going to be located? My guess is the gap in the 2 rows of seats in from of the CF food court:

mrakbaseball
11-24-2008, 05:37 PM
Just my opinion, but I think that NYS and Citi already look better. To me, Petco looks too busy and pretentious, including a silly "fake' warehouse incorporated into the stands to force a certain look. Also the interior looks too-atrium like to me.

The Western Metal Supply Co. building isn't a fake warehouse. I like Petco except for the towers on the 1st and the 3rd base side and the RF wacky asymmetry. The Petco upper deck is closer to the field than either NYS' or Citi's.

SteveJRogers
11-24-2008, 06:36 PM
The Western Metal Supply Co. building isn't a fake warehouse. I like Petco except for the towers on the 1st and the 3rd base side and the RF wacky asymmetry. The Petco upper deck is closer to the field than either NYS' or Citi's.

Not only that, technically Petco Park is an addition onto the Western Metal Supply Co. building!

florida_yankee_fan
11-24-2008, 07:03 PM
Here's some aerial pics off WFAN's website,and the Link: http://www.wfan.com/pages/3377663.php?imageGalleryXRefId=834558#imgXR

Wall-E
11-24-2008, 07:04 PM
Need some questions guys....

bronxbombers2
11-24-2008, 07:15 PM
Need some questions guys....

i like the ones that guy did on the previous page, answered most of mine. but i will keep thinking

jimmyjimjimz
11-24-2008, 07:19 PM
Need some questions guys....

Here's one........................

..........................since theyre saying you can see the field from the bathroom, can Derek Jeter watch me pee from the field? Cause if he can, isn't that an invasion of privacy?

peterrod16
11-24-2008, 07:31 PM
Need some questions guys....

here is my questions?
What is the current wind pattern in NYS?
It seems the field Level seats beyond the infield are not angled towards home plate
Will fans have to turn their neck in order to see the action?
Are there any plans of fixing the obstruction from the Center field bar?
Will there be speakers in the concourse to hear john sterling?
how tall is the net behind home plate?

Those are my questions Wall-E

jimmyjimjimz
11-24-2008, 07:34 PM
another question:

are the people in the first fiew rows on the field level gonna have to sit on the floor, or are there gonna be seats there by April 16th? Or the games vs the cubs? (I forgot the dates)

80SHOCK
11-24-2008, 07:36 PM
Here's some aerial pics off WFAN's website,and the Link: http://www.wfan.com/pages/3377663.php?imageGalleryXRefId=834558#imgXR


There's a square cut out of the wall on MP, looks like there will be a window on the wall of MP. So you can kind of view MP from field level.

jimmyjimjimz
11-24-2008, 07:39 PM
There's a square cut out of the wall on MP, looks like there will be a window on the wall of MP. So you can kind of view MP from field level.

There's also a door to one of the bullpens.

80SHOCK
11-24-2008, 07:46 PM
There's also a door to one of the bullpens.

Yeah the door suppose to be there so one can enter MP. How do you explain a square cut out in the wall of MP, unless a plexiglass window is going there?
I don't know maybe it's for construction so stuff can get into MP. but then again they have 2 MP doors on both sides for that. :shrug:

locke40
11-24-2008, 07:48 PM
Here's some aerial pics off WFAN's website,and the Link: http://www.wfan.com/pages/3377663.php?imageGalleryXRefId=834558#imgXR

Whomever took those photos needs a lesson in photography. There is absolutely no perspective whatsoever in these shots.

yankies4life
11-24-2008, 07:56 PM
Well in the bottem right hand corner we get our first look at the auxiliary scoreboard

Transic
11-24-2008, 08:36 PM
Alright guys: big news.

You know the guy who just recently posted those four videos of NYS? Well I actually contacted him via Youtube and he has agreed to upload a good 100 pictures as well as sit down in an "interview" of sorts with me to discuss everything he saw and heard. So, what are some questions you would like asked by me? I think a good 15-20 would be great and I'll post all of the answers within the next few days.

What will the first non-baseball sporting event at the Stadium?

Did they seriously consider New Jersey before moving across the street?

What is the current situation between them and the Mets? Is the new Steinbrenner in good terms with the Met organization?

Will they commemorate the first home run hit by a Red Sock in the Stadium? ;)

Is it me or is the new Monument Park a very small area?

Will people be allowed to move down in certain areas of the Stadium eventually?

Why have they not contributed to the new Metro-North station?

Will fans get a break on the concessions?

How many obstructed-view seats in total?

And finally...

Will they allow people to post electronic messages like "Box Seats Suck!" on the video board? :D

Pinstripes
11-24-2008, 09:39 PM
While we are in comparison mode, check out the original rendering of Monument Park (notice the 2 levels of the resturaunt) and the computer rendering of what they are actually building.

It is amazing how much license the artists take when they draw this stuff up . . . .It's not artistic license - the picture on the right is a concept sketch/painting. It's done before there are blueprints, before there are any decisions made as to what the final design will be. That watercolor looks like it's about half-way through the design process. Notice the "slanted" frieze, the different shape of the scoreboard, and the slightly different seating levels.

Rarely do the final blueprints reflect what was seen in a piece of concept art. Only after the blueprints have been finalized, and elevation renderings and computer models have been built do you get a true sense of a finished look. At that point, they'll create more photo-realistic pieces of art as well as computer renderings.

The problem is that when concept art is released, people always seem to assume that it's exactly what they're going to build, when it's nothing more than a piece of concept art.

YankeeDean
11-24-2008, 09:49 PM
I've wanted clarification for a while: Not $1.7 for the stadium, but $1.3 billion? The $1.7 figure includes $400 million for infrastructure improvements (new parking garages, metro north station, improved highway access), and the city gets all the money from the parking lots, right?

Pinstripes
11-24-2008, 09:58 PM
just a point petco park looks really nice there...i can only hope nys and citi will look as goodPetco is a nice park (I saw a game there last summer), but that particular picture makes it look like an office building.

Also, with regard to those different parks and their signage - most of those pictures are of section numbers or related signs. We haven't yet seen the new stadium's section number signs, so we can't really say much about them yet. Additionally, old Yankee Stadium's section number markers (see below) were hardly noteworthy, but I didn't hear many complaints. I think we're so bored with the offseason that we're nitpicking on every detail. It seems like no matter what design choices are made, there's going to be someone who doesn't like that choice.

If they had put a frieze on top of that sign posted earlier, I'm sure there would be people who complained that the frieze was everywhere and it was overkill. There's still a lot of detail work to be done. I think we should at least hold off judgment on the interior corridors as not being "Yankee Stadium" enough until it's all said and done. They may have planned a ton of other Yankee-related stuff in the great hall that they didn't want that sign to blend in with everything else. In the great hall, there's going to be an LED-banner board, a large LED screen, the Hard Rock Cafe entrance, the Martini Bar (on the second level), etc, so there may be just too much visual "noise" overload that they wanted to keep the signs simple. I think there does come a point where you can overdo it with detailing, and maybe their feeling was they wanted to keep certain things simple and understated.

My only point being is that until everything is done, it's hard to judge a detail design such as that as it has no context. Right now, it's a sign in the middle of pretty much nothing. Once it's all finished, and it's in a context, maybe then we can draw conclusions about how bad the decision was.


from flickr user Ben+Sam: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wlscience/2076336111/in/photostream/

Pinstripes
11-24-2008, 10:12 PM
I've wanted clarification for a while: Not $1.7 for the stadium, but $1.3 billion? The $1.7 figure includes $400 million for infrastructure improvements (new parking garages, metro north station, improved highway access), and the city gets all the money from the parking lots, right?I believe that's right, however I know the initial budget was closer to $1.1B, but then there were budget overruns and more money put into a few things they wanted to add along the way. The $1.3B figure was from quite a while ago, so there may have been even further budget overruns since then. That could possibly be the $1.7B figure that's been thrown around, although I find it hard to believe that the total could have increased by $400M since we last heard.

SparkyL
11-25-2008, 04:25 AM
Need some questions guys....

I still think the #1 question is will the bleachers be isolated from the rest of the stadium (like RYS) or not. Because some of us may get relocated there from thr grandstand and it would be nice to know . .

YanksRule
11-25-2008, 07:16 AM
Need some questions guys....

In the back rows of the 200 level, is there a tunnel-vision effect?

How do you access MP from the bleachers?

Is any part of that food court in the grandstand for regular ticket holders?

What are some of the food options going to be?

Can all fans access any part of the field level for batting practice?

Where is standing room going to be? How much will those tickets be?

Where is the CF camera going to go?

spiderico
11-25-2008, 07:37 AM
Need some questions guys....

How high is the plexiglass in the front rows of each level. Especially in terrace and grandstand. If you sit in row A, will you be looking through the glass?

DM23MVP
11-25-2008, 07:47 AM
The original artist renderings (pre-formal blueprints, from which the computer renderings were produced) showed limestone behind the concession areas.


Those renderings are completely different from the final stadium design, they still have the open concourse behind homeplate. It's hard to draw a comparison between the 2 designs when they're not the same stadium.

DM23MVP
11-25-2008, 07:51 AM
How high is the plexiglass in the front rows of each level. Especially in terrace and grandstand. If you sit in row A, will you be looking through the glass?

In the old stadium, you were looking through a metal railing, so I think the plexiglass, regardless of the height, will be an improvement.

SparkyL
11-25-2008, 09:11 AM
Those renderings are completely different from the final stadium design, they still have the open concourse behind homeplate. It's hard to draw a comparison between the 2 designs when they're not the same stadium.

Right - - but in response to another poster - at some point the decision was made to use some type of metal skin on the back of the concessions instead of limestone. That comparision can be made.

YanksRule
11-25-2008, 10:15 AM
Right - - but in response to another poster - at some point the decision was made to use some type of metal skin on the back of the concessions instead of limestone. That comparision can be made.

The one thing I'm curious about... lets say 5 years from now, the Yanks realize that the stadium will look better with limestone replacing the metal. There are already those little windows and then the little design above the giant ones, and that part cannot be changed without a huge, huge renovation. Will limestone look good above that pattern? What do you think should be on it, or does it need a much larger renovation to change the top of the limestone there now so whatever is above it doesn't look like it was just slapped on after?

Basically, is there a realistic possibility of limestone being added later without it looking chintzy and slapped on or requiring something major to be done?

Yankeefan3783
11-25-2008, 10:21 AM
Alright guys: big news.

You know the guy who just recently posted those four videos of NYS? Well I actually contacted him via Youtube and he has agreed to upload a good 100 pictures as well as sit down in an "interview" of sorts with me to discuss everything he saw and heard. So, what are some questions you would like asked by me? I think a good 15-20 would be great and I'll post all of the answers within the next few days.

What color are the outfield wall distance markings going to be? What kind of font will be used?

I'm hoping it's the same kind of font used at Yankee Stadium pre-renovation.

YanksRule
11-25-2008, 10:22 AM
What color are the outfield wall distance markings going to be? What kind of font will be used?

I'm hoping it's the same kind of font used at Yankee Stadium pre-renovation.


And how many ads are planned to be on the wall? Is it going to be as bad as the old 3D renderings show it?

Cool Papa B.
11-25-2008, 01:02 PM
Hey Guys. New Pictures are on the Yankees website!!!

80SHOCK
11-25-2008, 01:36 PM
Hey Guys. New Pictures are on the Yankees website!!!

Ugh! Looks like more advertisement with that white board above both pens.

NYBase
11-25-2008, 01:47 PM
Here are some of those of those Yankees.com

80SHOCK
11-25-2008, 01:51 PM
^^^ Those speakers are certainly well covered. BTW I thought plexiglass was going in front of most rows of the seating. Instead they have those grey/silver fences.

SparkyL
11-25-2008, 01:56 PM
^^^ Those speakers are certainly well covered. BTW I thought plexiglass was going in front of most rows of the seating. Instead they have those grey/silver fences.

The plexiglass will be installed on top of the fences and will go to a height of roughly where the 2/4 railing is.

SparkyL
11-25-2008, 02:01 PM
I am not sure, but I will guess that the yellow enclosure on the right of the scoreboard wall is going to house the subwoofers.

SparkyL
11-25-2008, 02:04 PM
Ugh! Looks like more advertisement with that white board above both pens.

Ugh indeed. And no going green for the New York Yankees. Not only are there billboards everywhere, but they are all illuminated.

80SHOCK
11-25-2008, 02:09 PM
It is kind of difficult to complain. Baseball parks have all ways been seemingly drowned in advertisements. So it's really nothing new.

jimmyjimjimz
11-25-2008, 02:12 PM
more questions:

will the food in the food court taste good?

will the hard rock be open all year round?

will you be able to hang out at the bar in the hard rock before games if you have tickets?

will non-ticket holders have access to any of the resturants during games?

will tickets for this season be sold at the new stadium or the old stadium?

where will the ticket windows be at the new stadium?

will the martini bar be only selling martinis, or can I get a jack and coke there?

will you be able to bring drinks from the martini bar into the stadium?

I heard there's supposed to be unisex bathrooms in the stadium. what's a unisex bathroom?

will it still take 3 hrs to exit the stadium from the last row of the upper deck?

will all the old parking lots still be open?

what is gonna be in the yankee museum?

will the yankee museum be open all year round?

That's all I can think of right now.

SparkyL
11-25-2008, 02:37 PM
more questions:


1. will the hard rock be open all year round?

2. will tickets for this season be sold at the new stadium or the old stadium?

3. where will the ticket windows be at the new stadium?

4. I heard there's supposed to be unisex bathrooms in the stadium. what's a unisex bathroom?

5. will the yankee museum be open all year round?

I can help you with some:

1. Yes - that was announced at the Hard Rock press conference at the new stadium several months ago. The stadium is designed to be a year-round attraction.

2 and 3. There is an indoor ticket lobby to the right of gate 4. Look at the blueprints posted earlier.

4. The new stadium will have "family restrooms" which are basically a single restroom where you can take a small child/baby. These are also shown on the blueprints.

5. See #1

SparkyL
11-25-2008, 06:24 PM
Interesting article:

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/11132422

"If this is the future of the stadium experience, I humbly request to be teleported to next April. You can have your quaint ivy walls and forbidding monsters of green; me, I'll take the laser beam turbo rocket ship."

Also includes an approach to get a tour of the new place . . . .

RICHIECOQUI
11-25-2008, 06:59 PM
Ugh! Looks like more advertisement with that white board above both pens. ads, ads,ads, so what the old yankees stadium in fact all the old ball parks had ads too!! look at the outfield!!!

PHA
11-25-2008, 07:05 PM
how do you go about getting the image location from the Yankees.com photo gallery?

kingcohn
11-25-2008, 07:09 PM
how do you go about getting the image location from the Yankees.com photo gallery?

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/nyy/ballpark/new_stadium.jsp
select november photo album

PHA
11-25-2008, 07:16 PM
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/nyy/ballpark/new_stadium.jsp
select november photo album

Yea, I know where it is, my question is how would I go about posting them here for example? Like the few from November posted above... When I right click on the picture on the November gallery I can't find an image location...

Sorry if I wasn't being specific

peterrod16
11-25-2008, 07:24 PM
Here are some of those of those Yankees.com

why does some of the seats look black?
Did the yanks change the seat colors to black behind home plate or am i colored blinded? LOL

SparkyL
11-25-2008, 07:24 PM
ads, ads,ads, so what the old yankees stadium in fact all the old ball parks had ads too!! look at the outfield!!!

True indeed.

I feel that the big intrusion is ads on the outfield wall. A little too close to the playing field (slippery slope theory). Makes it look like a minor league park.

DHYF162
11-25-2008, 07:48 PM
where are the november pics? when i visit http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/nyy/ballpark/new_stadium_community.jsp it only goes to october 3 gallery.

qbannik
11-25-2008, 07:53 PM
Yea, I know where it is, my question is how would I go about posting them here for example? Like the few from November posted above... When I right click on the picture on the November gallery I can't find an image location...

Sorry if I wasn't being specific

Hi,

You can use the PRINT SCREEN key to copy the entire web page, then paste into your photoshop program, crop the image and save to your hard drive. Then just upload it here.

YanksRule
11-25-2008, 08:05 PM
So, on Sunday I was taking my exterior photos at NYS like I do every month, and one of the union guys recognized me since I come so often and took my camera to the field and grabbed some photos... you can see the manual scoreboard in two of them and where the bleachers meet the field level. It doesn't look like any field seats will be blocked by the bleachers....

He said if I come back this weekend, he'll take more photos for me.. and I got the email address of one of the security guards, I'll see what I can do with that...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/20503670@N05/sets/72157610134585120/


Here is the original sized image of one with the scoreboard, as you can only see the details of it when it's blown up (let me know if I should post the other ones full sized):

florida_yankee_fan
11-25-2008, 08:26 PM
I love this picture. Dont sell yourself short!

The Stadium just looks huge.The frieze is gleaming white looming over a sea of dark blue seats...

The auxiliary score board looks great also.

YanksRule
11-25-2008, 08:30 PM
I love this picture. Dont sell yourself short!

The Stadium just looks huge.The frieze is gleaming white looming over a sea of dark blue seats...

The auxiliary score board looks great also.

None of the credit goes to me, I didn't take them; it was the worker's generosity

florida_yankee_fan
11-25-2008, 08:36 PM
Oh, I see...Sorry about that,but thank you for posting it anyway.

Gary Dunaier
11-25-2008, 09:02 PM
None of the credit goes to me, I didn't take them; it was the worker's generosity

Speaking of other people's photos, here's an unusual angle I found on Flickr...


(Uploaded to Flickr.com by user NYCmiri on 11/25/08; described as having been taken November 24, 2008. Link to original Flickr.com upload: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nycmiri/3058771570/?addedcomment=1#comment72157610059309541). Link to high-resolution 3605 x 2400 image: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nycmiri/3058771570/sizes/o/).)

You're looking towards the back of the left field stands from what I believe is the roof of one of the buildings on McClellan Avenue, the first street between Jerome and River Avenues that has buildings.

baseballman1243
11-25-2008, 09:06 PM
I think the manual scoreboard looks so classic and nice.

jimmyjimjimz
11-25-2008, 10:42 PM
I think the manual scoreboard looks so classic and nice.

since the auxiliary scoreboards permaninately (I know I most likely spelled it wrong, and just to let you know, this isnt a spelling bee) say "Yankees", what are they gonna do if a college team comes in and wants to play against another college team in an exhibition game or something? Like if they wanna do Fordham vs Queens College one weekend, one game at Yankee Stadium and the next game at Citi Field?

And are those scoreboards REALLY manual? Cause if they are, and if there's air conditioning inside the scoreboard (which there must be, it's a brand new stadium unlike Fenway and Wriggley), I'm gonna apply for the job. I need a job so bad, and I really want to get in for free with no ticket. And working in the mailroom would be way too much at Yankee Stadium. With all the fan mail the player's get and all that. It would just be way too much for me.

That's another good question, robot dude.

Are the auxiliary scoreboards gonna be manual? and are they air conditioned? and how do you apply for the job?

Also, I came uo with some more good questions, mostly about food and beer:

Will they have ketchup at the new stadium, or catsup?

Will they have pepsi or coke?

what kind of beer will be served? Bud? Miller? Coors?

Will Bob Sheppard's office be bigger than it was in the old stadium? Cause in the old stadium, it's like he's in a shoebox.

Will George Costana's office be in the Yankee Museum? Cause it should be. And we should be able to hide under the desk Steinbrenner hid under with his grandkids.

SparkyL
11-26-2008, 05:51 AM
So, on Sunday I was taking my exterior photos at NYS like I do every month, and one of the union guys recognized me since I come so often and took my camera to the field and grabbed some photos... you can see the manual scoreboard in two of them and where the bleachers meet the field level. It doesn't look like any field seats will be blocked by the bleachers....

He said if I come back this weekend, he'll take more photos for me.. and I got the email address of one of the security guards, I'll see what I can do with that...


Here is the original sized image of one with the scoreboard, as you can only see the details of it when it's blown up (let me know if I should post the other ones full sized)


Yes - please post the full size ones (you can post the full size to Flickr and the lower res here . . . )

If you get back and the worker is willing to take some more pics, can you see if he can take some of the field and main concourses. Mostly what we have of the interior are the Great Hall some upper deck concourse and the clubhouse . . .

. . . and see if he knows if the bleachers will have access to the rest of the stadium. This shot is tantalizing close as he is on the Main level concourse and the bleachers are just to his right . . . if he could only turn and take a pic of where the two concourses meet (the bleachers' will be higher).



and THANKS!!!

[btw, are those two functioning TV screens and are they actually showing a shot from RYS?]

jeremy51
11-26-2008, 06:12 AM
Anyone still honestly think this place won't be as ominous and intimidating to opposing players as the old building? Especially when it's filled with 53,000+ Yankee fans...

Ralf
11-26-2008, 06:18 AM
Anyone still honestly think this place won't be as ominous and intimidating to opposing players as the old building? Especially when it's filled with 53,000+ Yankee fans...

No more than any other new stadium.

donut726
11-26-2008, 06:42 AM
if the old yankee stadium was still ominous and intimidating, the Yankees would be winning more games.

David Atkatz
11-26-2008, 06:46 AM
if the old yankee stadium was still ominous and intimidating, the Yankees would be winning more games.

Do you guys really think that Major League teams lose ballgames because they're intimidated by their opponents stadium?

locke40
11-26-2008, 06:48 AM
Do you guys really think that Major League teams lose ballgames because they're intimidated by their opponents stadium?

Yes, yes I do.

jeremy51
11-26-2008, 06:52 AM
Do you guys really think that Major League teams lose ballgames because they're intimidated by their opponents stadium?


Probably not. But all of this is part of the romance of baseball, and what separates it from every other sport. If you don't get that, I feel sorry for you.

YanksRule
11-26-2008, 07:19 AM
Yes - please post the full size ones (you can post the full size to Flickr and the lower res here . . . )

. . . and see if he knows if the bleachers will have access to the rest of the stadium. This shot is tantalizing close as he is on the Main level concourse and the bleacher are just to his right . . . if he could only turn and take a pic of where the two concourses meet (the bleachers' will be higher).



and THANKS!!!

[btw, are those two functioning TV screens and are they actually showing a shot from RYS?]

It looks like he is actually on the field concourse there, with the main level being that above his head... if the bleachers are connected to the main bowl, it would be on the field level - the thing that worries me is the fact that the bleachers on the right are so much higher than the field level... yet in the photo below they meet... I'm definately confused by that.. but it also looks like the bleachers are connected to that giant staircase as well... just a matter of if there is an exit/entrance for them.

If I see the guy again, I'll ask him, though... And I'll try to post the full-sized ones by the weekend (things are busy with Thanksgiving...)

YankeeFanBx
11-26-2008, 07:50 AM
Interesting article:

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/11132422

"If this is the future of the stadium experience, I humbly request to be teleported to next April. You can have your quaint ivy walls and forbidding monsters of green; me, I'll take the laser beam turbo rocket ship."

Also includes an approach to get a tour of the new place . . . .
I'm seriously hooked!!! The man wrote a story that has me like a fiend needing a fix, please April, don't be late!!
...or too rainy.

YanksRule
11-26-2008, 08:25 AM
There is now a Relocation Status Chart... I don't know how they are going to get through everything including the partial plans by end of December... I would think there are way more partial plan holders than full season plan holders, yet in a month they still haven't gotten through the full season pool yet or started the 41 game relocation

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/nyy/ticketing/sth_relocation_status.jsp

SparkyL
11-26-2008, 09:25 AM
There is now a Relocation Status Chart... I don't know how they are going to get through everything including the partial plans by end of December... I would think there are way more partial plan holders than full season plan holders, yet in a month they still haven't gotten through the full season pool yet or started the 41 game relocation

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/nyy/ticketing/sth_relocation_status.jsp

You got to wonder how often they update this information . .

SparkyL
11-26-2008, 09:39 AM
It looks like he is actually on the field concourse there, with the main level being that above his head... if the bleachers are connected to the main bowl, it would be on the field level - the thing that worries me is the fact that the bleachers on the right are so much higher than the field level... yet in the photo below they meet... I'm definately confused by that.. but it also looks like the bleachers are connected to that giant staircase as well... just a matter of if there is an exit/entrance for them.

If I see the guy again, I'll ask him, though... And I'll try to post the full-sized ones by the weekend (things are busy with Thanksgiving...)

You are correct, he's on the Field concourse.

The bleachers may not have an exit into that staircase . . they may only have access to the stairs behind the scoreboard. And we can't tell if there are any other stairs from the bleacher concourse up or down to the adjacent concourses.

locke40
11-26-2008, 09:59 AM
I am afraid the auxiliary scoreboards are going to be lost amongst the sea of wall advertisements. The reason the auxiliary scoreboards worked so well in the Old Stadium is because they were the same size as the outfield wall.

80SHOCK
11-26-2008, 10:08 AM
I am afraid the auxiliary scoreboards are going to be lost amongst the sea of wall advertisements. The reason the auxiliary scoreboards worked so well in the Old Stadium is because they were the same size as the outfield wall.


As I said a few pages ago, the Auxiliary Scoreboards are not to be relied on for scores. Although it will be a person behind them updating them.
They're there for cosmetic reasons. They serve as a reminder of what the original YS had. If it was suppose to be used for relying on the game updates then they would have been much bigger.
The advertisments on the wall will not be a lot. It wasn't at the current YS. Modells, Adidas, WB Mason, Cannon was on the walls. The outfield wall is huge. It won't get lost.

NYBase
11-26-2008, 11:29 AM
Yea, I know where it is, my question is how would I go about posting them here for example? Like the few from November posted above... When I right click on the picture on the November gallery I can't find an image location...

Sorry if I wasn't being specific

I'm on a mac so I select SHIFT + APPLE + 4 and I get to lasso what I want to capture.

Kentucky Bomber
11-26-2008, 01:15 PM
I don't know if this has been posted before, but the most interesting new piece of info for me in the sportsline.com story was that the premo, teak armrested and cushioned seats will have their own tarp. They will be covered just like the field in case of inclement weather. I would imagine that would be for non-playing days, but wouldn't it be something if that happened during rain delays, too? A squadron of special ushers roaring into the premo seats to tarp them over lest the teak should feel even a drop of rain! :crazy

NYFan1stYankFan2nd
11-26-2008, 02:20 PM
ads, ads,ads, so what the old yankees stadium in fact all the old ball parks had ads too!! look at the outfield!!!

Yes, but in that vintage photo the ads didn't practically DOMINATE the area between the ends of the grandstands. That spread of posters actually looks classy.

DM23MVP
11-26-2008, 02:36 PM
Yes, but in that vintage photo the ads didn't practically DOMINATE the area between the ends of the grandstands. That spread of posters actually looks classy.

Advertising is a huge part of sports, every stadium, every arena, every sport, that's just the way it is. You can't expect that Yankee Stadium would be any different than every other professional sports venue.

TinoM24
11-26-2008, 03:02 PM
I don't know if this has been posted before, but the most interesting new piece of info for me in the sportsline.com story was that the premo, teak armrested and cushioned seats will have their own tarp. They will be covered just like the field in case of inclement weather. I would imagine that would be for non-playing days, but wouldn't it be something if that happened during rain delays, too? A squadron of special ushers roaring into the premo seats to tarp them over lest the teak should feel even a drop of rain! :crazy

if you were paying $2500 for a seat, would you want it to be soaking wet?

Gary Dunaier
11-26-2008, 03:12 PM
I don't know if this has been posted before, but the most interesting new piece of info for me in the sportsline.com story was that the premo, teak armrested and cushioned seats will have their own tarp. They will be covered just like the field in case of inclement weather. I would imagine that would be for non-playing days, but wouldn't it be something if that happened during rain delays, too? A squadron of special ushers roaring into the premo seats to tarp them over lest the teak should feel even a drop of rain! :crazy

At Shea Stadium they covered up the Home Plate Club seats on non-game days.

SparkyL
11-26-2008, 03:17 PM
Yes, but in that vintage photo the ads didn't practically DOMINATE the area between the ends of the grandstands. That spread of posters actually looks classy.


Advertising is a huge part of sports, every stadium, every arena, every sport, that's just the way it is. You can't expect that Yankee Stadium would be any different than every other professional sports venue.

I agree - isn't not just the amount of ads - it's their placement. In OYS the manual scoreboards were all alone on a black outfield wall that had no ads.

SparkyL
11-26-2008, 04:31 PM
For those who have not noticed . . . the circled suite is the Steinbrenner suite. No longer on the Press level.

SparkyL
11-26-2008, 04:44 PM
Thinking about no longer seeing the Courthouse looming over right field . . . . . one of the neat things of Camden Yards when it first opened was its downtown view (as opposed to new Comisky that was oriented away from downtown). And part of what made the skyline special was the tall clock tower.

With the construction of that building, the clock tower is mostly hidden. The skyline looks pretty average now.

80SHOCK
11-26-2008, 05:22 PM
Thinking about no longer seeing the Courthouse looming over right field . . . . . one of the neat things of Camden Yards when it first opened was its downtown view (as opposed to new Comisky that was oriented away from downtown). And part of what made the skyline special was the tall clock tower.

With the construction of that building, the clock tower is mostly hidden. The skyline looks pretty average now.

The clock tower is hidden but what happened to the other buildings?

Bobby_Ayala
11-26-2008, 05:44 PM
if you were paying $2500 for a seat, would you want it to be soaking wet?

I wouldn't, but there are plenty of other potential patrons I wouldn't mind seeing wet.:cool: That is what I like. I strongly advocate it.;) A good combination of my interests always make me happy. Wet babes never detract from a ballpark's ambience. Remember that. Cater to the young female demographic, and you in turn cater to all demographics. It's a win/win. :highfive:

Yankeefan3783
11-26-2008, 05:48 PM
The clock tower is hidden but what happened to the other buildings?

It has to be the angle of the picture. Those buildings must still be there.

Goober
11-26-2008, 05:59 PM
It has to be the angle of the picture. Those buildings must still be there.

Clearly the first pic is from the upper deck, and the second is from right behind home plate.

However, I agree that the skyline in that second pic is average at best. I toured Oriole Park several years ago (my game was rained out, but I'm planning to go back next summer), and was enamored with the clock tower. I'm dissapointed it won't be as prominent as it was before.

Moose

ruthianpower328
11-26-2008, 07:39 PM
Do you guys really think that Major League teams lose ballgames because they're intimidated by their opponents stadium?

I saw some interviews somewhere a long time ago about how players were scared to come to Yankee Stadium in the glory days and the dynasty years. In 1998, there certainly was a mistique that you just could not describe. I can tell you that players who had to face Pettitte, Wells, Cone, El Duque, and later Clemens, with Stanton and nelson at the end with Rivera topping it off, its awfly intimidating.

How about back then, when opposing hitters had to face Larsen and Whitey Ford or pitchers with Mantle and Joe D and Ruth and Gerigh.

Joe Torre said himself he was always intimidated as an opposing player, because the fans were so loud and it felt like "they were on top of you"

You have to admit whether you like it or not, to Yankees fans and players it was the cathedral of baseball. But in the glory days, teams dreaded coming here.

Goober
11-26-2008, 07:48 PM
I saw some interviews somewhere a long time ago about how players were scared to come to Yankee Stadium in the glory days and the dynasty years. In 1998, there certainly was a mistique that you just could not describe. I can tell you that players who had to face Pettitte, Wells, Cone, El Duque, and later Clemens, with Stanton and nelson at the end with Rivera topping it off, its awfly intimidating.

How about back then, when opposing hitters had to face Larsen and Whitey Ford or pitchers with Mantle and Joe D and Ruth and Gerigh.

Joe Torre said himself he was always intimidated as an opposing player, because the fans were so loud and it felt like "they were on top of you"

You have to admit whether you like it or not, to Yankees fans and players it was the cathedral of baseball. But in the glory days, teams dreaded coming here.

And you're telling me that facing Murder's Row was easy anywhere? Or Larsen, and Ford? If you put those guys in any stadium with 50,000+ screaming fans, I'll bet the opposition would be pretty intimidated... In fact, you said it yourself. The Yankee Stadium "mystique" is nothing more than good teams and good fans. Take either away, and it's just another ballpark. (Again, your words, not mine...)

Moose

StadiumPage
11-26-2008, 08:16 PM
It has to be the angle of the picture. Those buildings must still be there.

The buildings are still there, but you can't see them from behind home plate anymore. They're building a big (BIGGGG) hotel between Camden and where the Bromo Seltzer Arts tower is. You can still see it in this angle (taken the day before the picture above on the right):



My newer pictures of Camden are from 07, so the hotel is probably done by now.

cgcoyne2
11-27-2008, 01:09 AM
Do you guys really think that Major League teams lose ballgames because they're intimidated by their opponents stadium?

It's not intimidation. It's supposed to be the GM's responsibility to tailor a team around his park to get that extra advantage. The psycho fans don't hurt the home team either.

seeknay22
11-27-2008, 10:13 AM
Does anyne have any pictures of the VISITING CLUBHOUSE? I really hope its not as nice as the Yankees clubhouse... I hope its cold, dark and ugly.

Cool Papa B.
11-27-2008, 02:04 PM
Does anyne have any pictures of the VISITING CLUBHOUSE? I really hope its not as nice as the Yankees clubhouse... I hope its cold, dark and ugly.

I asked the same question months ago and I never got a response from anyone. Whoever takes a tour of NYS please remeber to take pictures of the visitors clubhouse.

applenut
11-27-2008, 03:23 PM
I asked the same question months ago and I never got a response from anyone. Whoever takes a tour of NYS please remeber to take pictures of the visitors clubhouse.

Gotcha... I'll try my best.

Kentucky Bomber
11-27-2008, 04:44 PM
Here you go, first photo of visitors clubhouse in NYS...

ruthianpower328
11-27-2008, 05:31 PM
And you're telling me that facing Murder's Row was easy anywhere? Or Larsen, and Ford? If you put those guys in any stadium with 50,000+ screaming fans, I'll bet the opposition would be pretty intimidated... In fact, you said it yourself. The Yankee Stadium "mystique" is nothing more than good teams and good fans. Take either away, and it's just another ballpark. (Again, your words, not mine...)

Moose

Yeah, I understand you're saying. The teams have a lot to do with it. But its that psychological effect of being in their home park, with the crazy loud fans and the pressure to win, no matter how you put it, it was intimidating. And i never said it was just like any other ballpark, there was a feeling you got in Yankee Stadium. Even today with our teams that suck, when you walk into Yankee Stadium, you got that feeling that you don't get in any other park. I'm sorry, I'm not trying to start anything, its just that there is something mystical about the Yankees history and the stadium that I feel. And with pics of the new stadium, I get that feeling even more.

DHYF162
11-27-2008, 07:03 PM
i can see this going on and on

jerseyyankeefan
11-27-2008, 08:36 PM
Yeah, I understand you're saying. The teams have a lot to do with it. But its that psychological effect of being in their home park, with the crazy loud fans and the pressure to win, no matter how you put it, it was intimidating. And i never said it was just like any other ballpark, there was a feeling you got in Yankee Stadium. Even today with our teams that suck, when you walk into Yankee Stadium, you got that feeling that you don't get in any other park. I'm sorry, I'm not trying to start anything, its just that there is something mystical about the Yankees history and the stadium that I feel. And with pics of the new stadium, I get that feeling even more.

It's weird to think they are playing someplace else. I wish the new place was a bit higher. I'm not certain the 53,000 seats numbers is actually represenatative of the people actually in the stands or will include the number of people in the indoor suites.

I think the new place is close enough to the old place to give off that feeling...the frieze against the blue seats will do that, and of course the fans. Ultimately though its the players that do or don't get it done. Tampa didn't have a packed house every night and when the Yankees played there it apeared to be a Yankee crowd, and we know how Tampa did.

locke40
11-27-2008, 10:13 PM
The shadows created in this Stadium are strange and amazing.

stockycatcher
11-27-2008, 10:41 PM
The shadows created in this Stadium are strange and amazing.


You can say that again. Look at this http://www.flickr.com/photos/9286123@N04/3055427586/

cgcoyne2
11-27-2008, 11:39 PM
About the visitor's clubhouse. On the Current Yankee Stadium tours that just ended you didn't tour the visitor's clubhouse. I don't think that will change in the New Stadium. Just a thought.

Cool Papa B.
11-28-2008, 12:19 AM
About the visitor's clubhouse. On the Current Yankee Stadium tours that just ended you didn't tour the visitor's clubhouse. I don't think that will change in the New Stadium. Just a thought.

Yeah, I know. They never showed you the vistors clubhouse on CYS tours. Maybe they didn't want you to see the poor conditions-LOL!!. I would just like to see what it looks like at NYS.

Gary Dunaier
11-28-2008, 12:54 AM
They never showed you the vistors clubhouse on CYS tours.

On the 10/30 noon tour of YS we entered the field through the visitors' dugout, which we accessed through the tunnel the players take from their clubhouse. The clubhouse itself wasn't opened, of course, and we didn't stay in the visitors' dugout (not that anyone cared about being in that dugout, of course! ;) ).

donniebaseball23
11-28-2008, 05:27 AM
The shadows created in this Stadium are strange and amazing.





My god that scoreboard is huge! Hope everyone had a nice Thanksgiving :waving

Chuck The Mets Fan!
11-28-2008, 08:01 AM
Forgive me if this has been asked elsewhere on this post, but do you think they will ever have a "football" game played at TNYS?

Dodgersfan323
11-28-2008, 08:15 AM
Hmm everything seems great except those blue lights in the locker room, seems like all the tacky gaming PCs now days that have blue lights or all the kids who would put blue lights under their car because they thought they were 2 fast and 2 furious :crazy I agree with the guy who said the logo in the outfield would have been better in cursive.

DGDGBD
11-28-2008, 09:12 AM
The shadows created in this Stadium are strange and amazing.
The sun is lower in the sky this time of year. You won't see those shadows during baseball season.

Aviator_Frank
11-28-2008, 09:43 AM
The sun is lower in the sky this time of year. You won't see those shadows during baseball season.

Yeah you will, just later in the day/evening, and at a different angle.

applenut
11-28-2008, 10:20 AM
Forgive me if this has been asked elsewhere on this post, but do you think they will ever have a "football" game played at TNYS?

Field won't fit in a practical way.

But I could see it happening... I do believe they are going to be much more open to concerts and such. The stadium has been designed with equipment move in/move out a lot better.

I'll post my photos later.... very impressive stadium. And I should be able to answer a lot of questions if you have any.


to start off..... visitor dugout/locker/bathroom is similar to the Yankees but smaller and squarer and the finish materials are cheaper and drabber (intentionally). They do have a very nice hitting and pitching tunnel... but no spas.

The bleachers are a separate entry and concourse and have no access to the stadium. Gates are being installed at any potential access points.... the Yankees could in the future decided to open these gates to allow the bleachers access to the stadium but the stadium was not designed in the manner most new ballparks are designed in, in which the main concourse wraps around the ballpark allowing fans to walk all the way around. That is not possible at NYS. Instead the main stadium concourse goes under the bleachers

Wall-E
11-28-2008, 10:22 AM
Field won't fit in a practical way.

But I could see it happening... I do believe they are going to be much more open to concerts and such. The stadium has been designed with equipment move in/move out a lot better.

I'll post my photos later.... very impressive stadium. And I should be able to answer a lot of questions if you have any.


to start off..... visitor dugout/locker/bathroom is similar to the Yankees but smaller and squarer and the finish materials are cheaper and drabber (intentionally). They do have a very nice hitting and pitching tunnel... but no spas.

The bleachers are a separate entry and concourse and have no access to the stadium. Gates are being installed at any potential access points.... the Yankees could in the future decided to open these gates to allow the bleachers access to the stadium but the stadium was not designed in the manner most new ballparks are designed in, in which the main concourse wraps around the ballpark allowing fans to walk all the way around. That is not possible at NYS. Instead the main stadium concourse goes under the bleachers

Now that, is very, very, disappointing.

applenut
11-28-2008, 10:29 AM
Now that, is very, very, disappointing.

Yea.... it was a bummer. That food court on top of the centerfield restaurant is for bleacher concessions.

For what its worth, supposedly beer lines have been run to the bleacher food court but the Yankees will ultimately decided whether or not alcohol is served there.

80SHOCK
11-28-2008, 11:16 AM
Field won't fit in a practical way.

But I could see it happening... I do believe they are going to be much more open to concerts and such. The stadium has been designed with equipment move in/move out a lot better.

I'll post my photos later.... very impressive stadium. And I should be able to answer a lot of questions if you have any.


to start off..... visitor dugout/locker/bathroom is similar to the Yankees but smaller and squarer and the finish materials are cheaper and drabber (intentionally). They do have a very nice hitting and pitching tunnel... but no spas.

The bleachers are a separate entry and concourse and have no access to the stadium. Gates are being installed at any potential access points.... the Yankees could in the future decided to open these gates to allow the bleachers access to the stadium but the stadium was not designed in the manner most new ballparks are designed in, in which the main concourse wraps around the ballpark allowing fans to walk all the way around. That is not possible at NYS. Instead the main stadium concourse goes under the bleachers

This is usually the case when a new arena or stadium is built. Have you seen CitiField's visitors clubhouse? Yuck!

applenut
11-28-2008, 11:35 AM
This is usually the case when a new arena or stadium is built. Have you seen CitiField's visitors clubhouse? Yuck!

It was explained to me that MLB regulations make it so that similar facilities must be provided to the opposing team so they have pretty much all the same stuff but just smaller cheaper versions... apparently the Yanks get away with not providing a spa.

80SHOCK
11-28-2008, 12:16 PM
Field won't fit in a practical way.

But I could see it happening... I do believe they are going to be much more open to concerts and such. The stadium has been designed with equipment move in/move out a lot better.

I'll post my photos later.... very impressive stadium. And I should be able to answer a lot of questions if you have any.


to start off..... visitor dugout/locker/bathroom is similar to the Yankees but smaller and squarer and the finish materials are cheaper and drabber (intentionally). They do have a very nice hitting and pitching tunnel... but no spas.

The bleachers are a separate entry and concourse and have no access to the stadium. Gates are being installed at any potential access points.... the Yankees could in the future decided to open these gates to allow the bleachers access to the stadium but the stadium was not designed in the manner most new ballparks are designed in, in which the main concourse wraps around the ballpark allowing fans to walk all the way around. That is not possible at NYS. Instead the main stadium concourse goes under the bleachers

I heard some talk of possibly (since it was suppose to happen January 09 in CYS) having the NHL Outdoor Classic game in NYS in January 2010.
I guess we'll hear more about next summer as that's time when they decide where that game is going to be played.

jimmyjimjimz
11-28-2008, 02:50 PM
I heard some talk of possibly (since it was suppose to happen January 09 in CYS) having the NHL Outdoor Classic game in NYS in January 2010.
I guess we'll hear more about next summer as that's time when they decide where that game is going to be played.

I don't understand how they do those hockey games on football/baseball field games. How do they get the ice onto the field? Won't it melt, cause there's no refrigeration?

SparkyL
11-28-2008, 03:33 PM
The shadows created in this Stadium are strange and amazing.

Any chance there is a link to high-res pics?

Nevermind - this is from yankees.com - no high-res there.

baseballman1243
11-28-2008, 03:42 PM
I don't understand how they do those hockey games on football/baseball field games. How do they get the ice onto the field? Won't it melt, cause there's no refrigeration?
I think they might build a refrigeration system level underneath the ice.

locke40
11-28-2008, 03:46 PM
Any chance there is a link to high-res pics?

Those two photos came from yankees.com, so those are as high-quality as possible.

Anubis2051
11-28-2008, 03:49 PM
I don't understand how they do those hockey games on football/baseball field games. How do they get the ice onto the field? Won't it melt, cause there's no refrigeration?

They have to run it.

See those two yellow lines running to center ice? Thats the refrigeration.

qbannik
11-28-2008, 04:06 PM
I don't understand how they do those hockey games on football/baseball field games. How do they get the ice onto the field? Won't it melt, cause there's no refrigeration?

Duh, it's held in the middle of winter.

Anubis2051
11-28-2008, 04:39 PM
You know, while were on the subject, whats with the overuse of the term "classic" lately? fall classic, winter classic, mid summer classic, I mean for the WS and ASG I can see it, they're both American traditions going back generations, but can you really tag the term to something that started last year like the winter classic? don't get me wrong, I'm a huge hockey fan, but using the term just seams inappropriate.

jimmyjimjimz
11-28-2008, 05:00 PM
They have to run it.

See those two yellow lines running to center ice? Thats the refrigeration.

oh so theyre gonna put the refrigeration on top of the grass?

won't that kill the grass though?

ChineseDemocracy
11-28-2008, 05:39 PM
The grass is already dead in the winter.

Will someone point me to the "ignore" function I hear about all the time?

Thank you.

SparkyL
11-28-2008, 05:59 PM
They have to run it.

See those two yellow lines running to center ice? Thats the refrigeration.

Why wouldn't they do this in Giants Stadium as the rectangular shape of the rink is better suited for a football stadium?

SparkyL
11-28-2008, 06:00 PM
On the 10/30 noon tour of YS we entered the field through the visitors' dugout, which we accessed through the tunnel the players take from their clubhouse. The clubhouse itself wasn't opened, of course, and we didn't stay in the visitors' dugout (not that anyone cared about being in that dugout, of course! ;) ).

Don't forget - the the Babe's day, that was the home dugout . ..

Anubis2051
11-28-2008, 06:16 PM
Don't forget - the the Babe's day, that was the home dugout . ..

No, the babes dugout was around where the portals to the first level of seating are today. the ones that exist now were built in 1975.

seeknay22
11-28-2008, 06:18 PM

Anubis2051
11-28-2008, 06:25 PM
A few weeks ago we were talking about the signs going up around the stadium and someone commented on how bland looking they were. Someone else raised the point that the signs may not be finished yet. I'm thinking that if this is the case than we will probably wind up with something like this (I Apologize for the crudity of the photoshop):


and as far as the Winter Classic at the stadium, who else thinks that this is a feasible layout for the rink?

This isn't to scale by any means, however I figured that since the majority of the seats are angled towards second base, then they would want center ice to be at the optimal viewing point. any thoughts?

EDIT: for comparison, this is how the ice is laid out at Wrigley:

jimmyjimjimz
11-28-2008, 06:33 PM
A few weeks ago we were talking about the signs going up around the stadium and someone commented on how bland looking they were. Someone else raised the point that the signs may not be finished yet. I'm thinking that if this is the case than we will probably wind up with something like this (I Apologize for the crudity of the photoshop):


and as far as the Winter Classic at the stadium, who else thinks that this is a feasible layout for the rink?

This isn't to scale by any means, however I figured that since the majority of the seats are angled towards second base, then they would want center ice to be at the optimal viewing point. any thoughts?

EDIT: for comparison, this is how the ice is laid out at Wrigley:



That's what I'd imagine the layout to be. Does anyone think theyre gonna put seats on the field?

SparkyL
11-28-2008, 06:39 PM
No, the babes dugout was around where the portals to the first level of seating are today. the ones that exist now were built in 1975.

True enough.

Here's a nice shot from Jeff on 10/11 - the low angle hides the construction barriers.

http://picasaweb.google.com/jeffreyejarrett/OldAndNewYankeeStadiumNYCOct112008#525832514629836 9090

Anubis2051
11-28-2008, 06:44 PM
That's what I'd imagine the layout to be. Does anyone think theyre gonna put seats on the field?

They're not in chicago. They used to do it in OYS for football so I don't see why not, unless they were worried about the grass, or that the view from most of the seats would be really bad, and even worse for anyone in the lower boxes especially if they use bleachers.