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PHA
11-08-2008, 10:47 AM
It also mentioned that construction workers were taking home plate and the mound itself - I wonder if they will indeed be installed at NYS. I really hope so.

Its symbolism, I hope you don't really think its of importance because those things literally get changed every game... so the home plate they take to the new stadium isn't some historical piece....

Kentucky Bomber
11-08-2008, 11:57 AM
Yes, and looks like I'm on top of this mountain :D

But is it really an honor to be the top poster about a stadium that isn't presentable?

Yankees12
11-08-2008, 12:23 PM
Its symbolism, I hope you don't really think its of importance because those things literally get changed every game... so the home plate they take to the new stadium isn't some historical piece....

The bases get changed every game, but not home plate or the mound.

That said, upon reading the article again, they might be referring to the rubber on home plate and the mound - not sure how often that gets replaced though. The article worded that passage a bit weirdly.

locke40
11-08-2008, 01:01 PM
I think it is a phenomenally stupid idea to create obstructed views solely to support a decorative device that the majority of attendees won't care about and that the obstructed fans won't even see. Here we are endlessly talking about the 200 people who will lose a view of the field because of the restaurant and you want to block out hundreds more.

Someone on this site (I forget who and can't find the post) once said that you can see 95% of the field behind a support column, while swaying back and forth slightly will allow you to see the other 5%. Support columns are good for stadiums and arenas.

Wall-E
11-08-2008, 01:13 PM
Someone on this site (I forget who and can't find the post) once said that you can see 95% of the field behind a support column, while swaying back and forth slightly will allow you to see the other 5%. Support columns are good for stadiums and arenas.

So that's it? If we put in support columns will New Yankee Stadium then at least be presentable?

SparkyL
11-08-2008, 01:44 PM
Yes, and looks like I'm on top of this mountain :D

I can't believe that I have over 400 posts! i would have guessed 100! haha:rofl:

florida_yankee_fan
11-08-2008, 01:48 PM
Speaking of presentability, (sic?) this thumbnail is so small I don't know if I should even bother posting it.But if you get out your magnifying glasses,it shows the Yankees are indeed taking the old home plate with them to the new park. From the AP:"A worker carries home plate into place inside the new Yankee Stadium during a ceremony moving home plate from the original stadium to the new one Saturday, Nov. 8, 2008 in the Bronx borough of New York." THE ASSOCIATED PRESS/Jason DeCrow

The Football Ref
11-08-2008, 01:51 PM
You know, anyone who visits this site for the first time will just assume that we're a bunch of retards....

Ther thought never crossed my mind.

:shrug:

florida_yankee_fan
11-08-2008, 02:17 PM
Here's a a better image:

florida_yankee_fan
11-08-2008, 02:26 PM
Sorry to beat this to death...last post on this,Here's a video also:http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/88599/yankees-transfer-dirt-between-stadiums/Default.aspx

locke40
11-08-2008, 02:31 PM
Does it bother anyone else that the centerfield restaurant is not centered perfectly? I've noticed it in other photos, but the below illustrates it perfectly. It almost seems like the whole outfield scoreboard is off-centered as well.

mrakbaseball
11-08-2008, 02:38 PM
Does it bother anyone else that the centerfield restaurant is not centered perfectly? I've noticed it in other photos, but the below illustrates it perfectly. It almost seems like the whole outfield scoreboard is off-centered as well.



The stadium is slightly asymmetrical. That is why it's "off-centered".

crosetti32
11-08-2008, 02:40 PM
I highly doubt that they'd be doing a significant remodel on a $1.3 billion stadium within 5 years based on aesthetics. The whole reason for not extending the limestone up is for an open air feel in the upper concourse as opposed to the cramped slaughter house feel in the old stadium, this is a major design feature that they're not just going to do away with because some people don't think it looks enough like the old stadium.

I think if they had extended the limestone exterior to wrap around the upper deck, you could have had the open arched windows, like the great hall. So you would have the classic exterior look, while maintaining an open-air feel to the place.

seeknay22
11-08-2008, 03:29 PM
what are they doing to the side of the building?
why is it a different color?:eek:

Yankees12
11-08-2008, 03:32 PM
what are they doing to the side of the building?
why is it a different color?:eek:

It's been that way for months now. They put an covering over the gray bricks, and it looks a lot better. That covering is the same exact thing that's on the Stadium exterior in RF and LF. It looks a lot better than the bland bricks.

florida_yankee_fan
11-08-2008, 03:35 PM
Link: http://www.mlb.com/nyy/photogallery/year_2008/month_11/day_08/cf3671782.html

curb my enthusiasm
11-08-2008, 04:31 PM
Someone on this site (I forget who and can't find the post) once said that you can see 95% of the field behind a support column, while swaying back and forth slightly will allow you to see the other 5%. Support columns are good for stadiums and arenas.

That seems like ridiculous reasoning. If I'm paying good money to go to a ballgame, then I don't feel like swaying back and forth to see the whole field.

jimmyjimjimz
11-08-2008, 04:36 PM
what are they doing to the side of the building?
why is it a different color?:eek:

I think those are TV's. I'm not sure.


Yes, and looks like I'm on top of this mountain :D

Wow, I have 389 posts on this thing. That's crazy. I thought I had way less than that.



Here's a a better image:

Why are Grayeme Lloyd and Paul O'Neill and Scott Brosius (I think) and David Cone there? They havent played for years. They shoulda got Jeter and Jorge and Rivera and someone new like Brett Gardner or Joba or Phil Hughes

curb my enthusiasm
11-08-2008, 04:55 PM
Why are Grayeme Lloyd and Paul O'Neill and Scott Brosius (I think) and David Cone there? They havent played for years. They shoulda got Jeter and Jorge and Rivera and someone new like Brett Gardner or Joba or Phil Hughes

Where are Danny Tartabull, Steve Balboni, Mel Hall, and Kevin Maas? And it would have been nice if Mike Pagliarulo was there.

florida_yankee_fan
11-08-2008, 04:58 PM
From MLB.COM: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081108&content_id=3671715&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

jimmyjimjimz
11-08-2008, 05:18 PM
From MLB.COM: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081108&content_id=3671715&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

oh, so it WAS Scott Brosius. I thought so. And I thought that really tall guy was Grayeme Lloyd. It was really Jeff Nelson. My bad.


Where are Danny Tartabull, Steve Balboni, Mel Hall, and Kevin Maas? And it would have been nice if Mike Pagliarulo was there.

What ever happened to all them? I remember Danny Tartabull better than the rest of them. The rest of them were around when I was really young, so I vageuley remember them.

curb my enthusiasm
11-08-2008, 05:31 PM
What ever happened to all them? I remember Danny Tartabull better than the rest of them. The rest of them were around when I was really young, so I vageuley remember them.

Hopefully you realize that I was being sarcastic with my comment.:)

jnakamura
11-08-2008, 05:40 PM
oh, so it WAS Scott Brosius. I thought so. And I thought that really tall guy was Grayeme Lloyd. It was really Jeff Nelson. My bad.



What ever happened to all them? I remember Danny Tartabull better than the rest of them. The rest of them were around when I was really young, so I vageuley remember them.

Tartabull is a bum.

jimmyjimjimz
11-08-2008, 06:27 PM
Hopefully you realize that I was being sarcastic with my comment.:)

yeah, I know you were being sarcastic.

DM23MVP
11-08-2008, 06:59 PM
Why are Grayeme Lloyd and Paul O'Neill and Scott Brosius (I think) and David Cone there? They havent played for years. They shoulda got Jeter and Jorge and Rivera and someone new like Brett Gardner or Joba or Phil Hughes

Graeme Lloyd is not in the picture, that's Jeff Nelson, and those guys were key members of the last 4 championship teams. Why shouldn't they be part of a ceremony that passes the torch, so to speak, from the old park to the new one?

NYFan1stYankFan2nd
11-08-2008, 07:03 PM
Graeme Lloyd is not in the picture, that's Jeff Nelson, and those guys were key members of the last 4 championship teams. Why shouldn't they be part of a ceremony that passes the torch, so to speak, from the old park to the new one?

If you listened to the video, you would hear that they had members of the 1998 Championship team on hand for the changing of the dirt.

DM23MVP
11-08-2008, 07:07 PM
If you listened to the video, you would hear that they had members of the 1998 Championship team on hand for the changing of the dirt.

Noooooo, really???:eek:

Wall-E
11-08-2008, 07:16 PM
Noooooo, really???:eek:

Now see here children: that is what we call a "dick move".

jimmyjimjimz
11-08-2008, 08:38 PM
Graeme Lloyd is not in the picture, that's Jeff Nelson, and those guys were key members of the last 4 championship teams. Why shouldn't they be part of a ceremony that passes the torch, so to speak, from the old park to the new one?


oh, so it WAS Scott Brosius. I thought so. And I thought that really tall guy was Grayeme Lloyd. It was really Jeff Nelson. My bad.

I corrected myself, dude.


If you listened to the video, you would hear that they had members of the 1998 Championship team on hand for the changing of the dirt.

Once again, I corrected myself

florida_yankee_fan
11-08-2008, 09:48 PM
I like the fact that the latest pictures posted on the Yankees website happen to show both Stadiums in a way where you can compare the two more easily.Here of course you see the left field side of the new stadium and the right field side of the current.I know this isn't a split screen with both halves lined up exactly,(I wish we can get such a picture) but how close(or how far short) has HOK and the Yankees come in making the new park resemble the old? How stark are the differences? I'm just interested in honest opinions if anyone would like to share...

Astros
11-08-2008, 09:58 PM
I like the fact that the latest pictures posted on the Yankees website happen to show both Stadiums in a way where you can compare the two more easily.Here of course you see the left field side of the new stadium and the right field side of the current.I know this isn't a split screen with both halves lined up exactly,(I wish we can get such a picture) but how close(or how far short) has HOK and the Yankees come in making the new park resemble the old? How stark are the differences? I'm just interested in honest opinions if anyone would like to share...

The only thing exactly replicating the old in the new stadium is the baseball diamond and the 90 ft. between the bases. Otherwise, besides a vague comparison that both stadiums have three main decks (not including the suiote level), they really do not strongly resemble each other on the interior from a ballpark design. The new stadium is a modernistic version of a "Yankee Stadium concept". It takes some of the old and builds upon it, making it different and in many cases, better. The Yankees have done a good job at creating a stadium that honors their pride and tradition, but clearly reminds you that you are living in the 2000's, not the 1920's. One day that feeling might be a very nostalgic reference, just as we currently have for the only Yankee Stadium we have ever known sitting across the street from the new one.

jimmyjimjimz
11-08-2008, 10:03 PM
The only thing exactly replicating the old in the new stadium is the baseball diamond and the 90 ft. between the bases. Otherwise, besides a vague comparison that both stadiums have three main decks (not including the suiote level), they really do not strongly resemble each other on the interior from a ballpark design. The new stadium is a modernistic version of a "Yankee Stadium concept". It takes some of the old and builds upon it, making it different and in many cases, better. The Yankees have done a good job at creating a stadium that honors their pride and tradition, but clearly reminds you that you are living in the 2000's, not the 1920's. One day that feeling might be a very nostalgic reference, just as we currently have for the only Yankee Stadium we have ever known sitting across the street from the new one.

so what youre saying is you wanted a stadium that looks like it was built in the 1920's? I'd say that's 99.9% impossible. I really don't think they'd ever be able to do anything like that.

Astros
11-08-2008, 10:21 PM
so what youre saying is you wanted a stadium that looks like it was built in the 1920's? I'd say that's 99.9% impossible. I really don't think they'd ever be able to do anything like that.

No that is not what I was saying. He was asking what our honest opinion was on how well things were replicated in the new stadium. I'm saying that beyond some signatures that honor and symbolize the Yankees (the frieze, seat color, etc.) this is a stadium designed to make you realize you are not entering a stadium designed to make you feel you have walked back in time into the 1920's, 30s, 40s and so on. It is a new interpretation of what the original Yankee Stadium symbolized throughout the years (pre and post renovation). This is a good thing. There is no way you could ever replicate the original stadium without a feeling of pretense.

JYanks26
11-09-2008, 12:00 AM
what are they doing to the side of the building?
why is it a different color?:eek:

Is the darker aluminum color the final color or is it the white on the right side? In the new Oct gallery a worker is painting what seems to be the darker shade.

I think it looks terrible with the dark color as it takes away from the limestone and now adds 3 colors to the outside of the building. I would have preferred if they stuck with the renderings and used the white there to blend it with the upper portion of the structure.

Perseus71
11-09-2008, 04:48 AM
Two things I noticed:
1) on the above picture of the side of NYS - it looks like a ribbon board is going to go up there.

2) It looks like there will not be room for the big NY behind homeplate at NYS.

80SHOCK
11-09-2008, 06:25 AM
Two things I noticed:
1) on the above picture of the side of NYS - it looks like a ribbon board is going to go up there.

2) It looks like there will not be room for the big NY behind homeplate at NYS.

Good observation about a ribbon board. It does look like there are hooks (or what ever you call the thing that supports ribbon boards) there for another board to go there.

I think there will be room but it's just not going to be as big as the current YS NY.

DM23MVP
11-09-2008, 06:38 AM
Is the darker aluminum color the final color or is it the white on the right side? In the new Oct gallery a worker is painting what seems to be the darker shade.

I think it looks terrible with the dark color as it takes away from the limestone and now adds 3 colors to the outside of the building. I would have preferred if they stuck with the renderings and used the white there to blend it with the upper portion of the structure.

Would you please let them finish the stadium before you make comments like this? The area you are referring to is STILL under construction.

monkeypants
11-09-2008, 06:55 AM
Good observation about a ribbon board. It does look like there are hooks (or what ever you call the thing that supports ribbon boards) there for another board to go there.

I think there will be room but it's just not going to be as big as the current YS NY.

I personally could live without the big NY behind home plate. I remember the Stadium before they stared painting it, and I still find it a little much. Also, there are already plenty of reminders in the new stadium as what stadium you are watching.

Mind you, the big NY is not terrible...I don't really mind it. I just don't care if they do end up leaving it out.

But you are right, I think, that there is enough room for them to paint it if that is the plan.

dabigyankeeman
11-09-2008, 07:07 AM
The big NY is there now because of the way-too-big foul area behind home plate. That area will be small in NYS thankfully, but I would like to see a smaller NY painted there, its a nice touch.

monkeypants
11-09-2008, 07:25 AM
The big NY is there now because of the way-too-big foul area behind home plate. That area will be small in NYS thankfully, but I would like to see a smaller NY painted there, its a nice touch.

The big NY is a relatively recent addition (it certainly wasn't there in the 1980s; I think it was added in 1996), and the area behind home now is considerably less than it was even 15 years ago. So, I don't think the reason they added the NY was to cover up the already shrinking area behind home plate.

TinoM24
11-09-2008, 07:47 AM
I think they should put in the script Yankees logo behind the plate, instead of a smaller NY.

donut726
11-09-2008, 07:57 AM
pretty sure the different shades of gray is just the effect of light reflecting off the metal panels. It's not because it's painted. there's no reason for the metal to be painted either.

Don't really understand why a ribbon board would be installed there though. if you're standing next to the stadium, you are not going to see the ribbon board since the Great Hall is blocking the view. The only way you can see that portion of the stadium is if you're standing very far away, and that sorta defeats the purpose of the LED ribbon.

YankeeFanBx
11-09-2008, 08:01 AM
I think they should put in the script Yankees logo behind the plate, instead of a smaller NY.

This would have looked good out in left field atop the scoreboard, and I agree it would look good behind the plate.
...and even better on the uniforms!!

parlo
11-09-2008, 08:24 AM
A lot of things bother me about the new stadium.
The upper decks are far, far removed from the playing field. Its ironic that a lot of new stadiums have brought the seats closer to the field, while NYS is placing the seats farther away. Olympic Stadium had better seats than NYS will have.
Unfortunately, I think the excitement of NYS will wear off after a few years and we will be left with just another dreary, uncharacteristic stadium.
I hope I am wrong, but so far I am not impressed.
The stadium seems to be geared towards shopping, not watching a game.

YankeeFanBx
11-09-2008, 08:27 AM
A lot of things bother me about the new stadium.
The upper decks are far, far removed from the playing field. Its ironic that a lot of new stadiums have brought the seats closer to the field, while NYS is placing the seats farther away. Olympic Stadium had better seats than NYS will have.
Unfortunately, I think the excitement of NYS will wear off after a few years and we will be left with just another dreary, uncharacteristic stadium.
I hope I am wrong, but so far I am not impressed.
The stadium seems to be geared towards shopping, not watching a game.
I believe you're dead wrong.

parlo
11-09-2008, 08:31 AM
I believe you're dead wrong.You think the seats are closer?????:confused:

Bruce Boisclair
11-09-2008, 08:37 AM
This would have looked good out in left field atop the scoreboard, and I agree it would look good behind the plate.
...and even better on the uniforms!!


You know, I always wondered what is up with that "new' script. I thought the Yanks were all about tradition. If you are going to have any script in the stadium, it should be this:

JAD7
11-09-2008, 11:14 AM
I personally could live without the big NY behind home plate. I remember the Stadium before they stared painting it, and I still find it a little much. Also, there are already plenty of reminders in the new stadium as what stadium you are watching.

Mind you, the big NY is not terrible...I don't really mind it. I just don't care if they do end up leaving it out.

But you are right, I think, that there is enough room for them to paint it if that is the plan.

I like the NY behind homeplate. The Yankees were the first to start painting their logo behind the plate & many years later you see just about every team doing it.

jnakamura
11-09-2008, 11:25 AM
The Yankees were the first to start painting their logo behind the plate & many years later you see just about every team doing it.

Baloney.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUkQof9m6z8

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boxpress/2705562874/

IPO
11-09-2008, 11:27 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/08/nyregion/08about.html?em

For Sports Teams, Mayors Play Ball at the City’s Expense

By JIM DWYER
Published: November 7, 2008

By complete accident, the latest in a series of totally innocent mistakes that goes back three full decades, the Yankees baseball company — a very for-profit business — has once again managed to underpay the rent it owes to the City of New York. This time, the amount came to $11.3 million, as calculated in an audit by the city comptroller, William C. Thompson Jr.

Every year or so, an auditor digs through the team’s books and finds some new eye-catching way that the city has been cheated. Usually, it’s an outrageous expense that the team claims as a credit against its rent — like the time it said it paid an engineer, one human being, to work 168 hours a week for six consecutive weeks. This year, it was $50,000 on a political action committee.

The Yankees have agreed to pay back the $11.3 million that the audit found they shorted the city.

But these are appetizers before the true banquet: The subsidies for the construction of new stadiums and garages that come in hard cash, in the loss of public parkland and in forgone taxes. Earlier this week, The New York Times reported that the state and the city would cover at least $659 million in costs related to new stadiums for the Yankees and the Mets. The teams will receive an additional $480 million in tax breaks of one kind or another.

The first incarnations of these deals came in the final hours of the administration of Rudolph W. Giuliani, and thus had the faint whiff of idolatry about them. (Mr. Giuliani was such a Yankees fan that he managed to buy four World Series rings from the team “at cost,” which apparently meant thousands of dollars less than their actual value. Somehow, the city’s chief executive can get discount jewelry from a sports company that was being subsidized with public funds, while the Conflict of Interest Board fined a school librarian $500 for displaying a book written by his daughter.)

The Giuliani stadium deals were immediately canceled in 2002 when a new mayor took office — the hard-headed, clear-thinking businessman Michael R. Bloomberg. With the city facing a recession and the loss of income from the Sept. 11 attacks, Mr. Bloomberg said New York simply could not afford them. Maybe later, he said.

Over the next few years, Mr. Bloomberg proceeded to slather new layers of icing atop the Giuliani cakes. The stadium plans were reborn, richer than ever. As a result, on Saturday, there will be one of these hokey quasi-religious ceremonies moving home plate from the old stadium across the street to the new one.

This happens the same week that Mr. Bloomberg says he has to close health clinics, shut libraries one day a week, not hire a new class of cops and raise property taxes.

The premise of these sports stadium investments, public officials say, is that economic development benefits will roll into the city over the decades — $40 million over 40 years in the Bronx, for instance.

Perhaps this will happen.

Or maybe it is a hallucination that is even flimsier than the assumptions that drove Wall Street to sink trillions into financial instruments that no one actually understood but all the right people agreed were worth tons of money.

Will families really be able to spend hundreds of dollars for tickets, hot dogs and parking spots? Will businesses still lay out tens of thousands of dollars for season tickets and luxury boxes and $16 glasses of sauvignon blanc in stadium clubs? There are signs that the air is going out of the sports industry bubble, as The Wall Street Journal reported recently.

No one is ready to say that the Yankees will turn into Lehman Brothers. But will the city really be able to collect all the rent it is owed from the garage that it is building for the team at a cost of $80,000 per parking spot? The garage operator gets to deduct some of the rent it owes the city if revenues don’t make certain projections, says Bettina Damiani, project director at Good Jobs New York, a think tank that has done studies critical of the stadium subsidies.

The new Yankee Stadium, with all its architectural dazzle, will open in the spring; less certain is when the public parkland that Mr. Bloomberg gave to the team will be replaced.

The full reckoning on Mr. Bloomberg’s judgment about these major investments of public funds will most likely not come for a few years, long after he has run for a third term as mayor by arguing that he has been the wisest and steadiest of stewards — just the man for the city during hard financial times.

Wall-E
11-09-2008, 11:48 AM
Baloney.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUkQof9m6z8

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boxpress/2705562874/

Somebody never won any Spelling Awards in elementary school....or has just never heard an Oscar Meyer song...

(EDIT: Sorry Jnakamura. Apparently you can spell it like that according to Gooogle. Don't know why...but you can. And when has google ever steered one wrong? Nonetheless, you need to cool it with you're Yankee hating obsession. You clearly could have said to JAD7 "Sorry, but the Yankees aren't the first to put their logo behind the backstop." No need to be rude just because you can't stand the Yanks. Be a bit more respectful, please.)

mrakbaseball
11-09-2008, 12:32 PM
Somebody never won any Spelling Awards in elementary school....or has just never heard an Oscar Meyer song...

(EDIT: Sorry Jnakamura. Apparently you can spell it like that according to Gooogle. Don't know why...but you can. And when has google ever steered one wrong? Nonetheless, you need to cool it with you're Yankee hating obsession. You clearly could have said to JAD7 "Sorry, but the Yankees aren't the first to put their logo behind the backstop." No need to be rude just because you can't stand the Yanks. Be a bit more respectful, please.)

A guy who is correcting an error is disrespectful? A guy who is stating factual information has a "Yankee hating obsession". Please.

Wall-E
11-09-2008, 12:35 PM
A guy who is correcting an error is disrespectful? A guy who is stating factual information has a "Yankee hating obsession". Please.

Haven't been watching his posts lately, have you?

80SHOCK
11-09-2008, 12:39 PM
This would have looked good out in left field atop the scoreboard, and I agree it would look good behind the plate.
...and even better on the uniforms!!


But you know the Yankees are NEVER going to change their uniforms.
I always thought they should add a third jersey. Have the top solid navy blue with Yankees in script white, across the chest. Keep the pinstripe pants.
The solid navy blue top would just be worn at home for a few games.

Yankees73
11-09-2008, 12:44 PM
This would have looked good out in left field atop the scoreboard, and I agree it would look good behind the plate.
...and even better on the uniforms!!
Please do not be offended but throughout this topic we have behaved as if nothing makes us happy. I include myself in this....Can't we just enjoy the new park without critiquing every rivet that was installed??? By the way why didn't they replicate the original Frieze?

mrakbaseball
11-09-2008, 12:54 PM
Haven't been watching his posts lately, have you?

Okay, he called Tartabull a bum, mentioned NYS's frieze was made in Canada and said that NYS's field has a generic hok shape like Turner Field's.
Are any of those statements false?
Anyone who has had or will have constructive criticism of NYS doesn't mean they hate the Yankees or have a "Yankee hating obsession". Anyone who points out NYS's numerous flaws, or has a less than enthusiastic opinion of it, isn't a "hater". NYS is going to be a nice ballpark when all is said and done, but don't say it will be the standard upon which all other ballparks past, present and future will be judged. That's just not the case and will not be the case.

jnakamura
11-09-2008, 01:01 PM
Somebody never won any Spelling Awards in elementary school....or has just never heard an Oscar Meyer song...

(EDIT: Sorry Jnakamura. Apparently you can spell it like that according to Gooogle. Don't know why...but you can. And when has google ever steered one wrong? Nonetheless, you need to cool it with you're Yankee hating obsession. You clearly could have said to JAD7 "Sorry, but the Yankees aren't the first to put their logo behind the backstop." No need to be rude just because you can't stand the Yanks. Be a bit more respectful, please.)

Someone doesn't know how to spell and it isn't me.

Bologna=sausage

Baloney=slang for nonsense

That isn't Google's definition, it's called the New Webster's Dictionary.
As for being disrespectful, get real, Dude. I was correcting someone giving out false "facts".

Now can we get back on topic, Mr. grammar cop (who doesn't know his grammar)?

Wall-E
11-09-2008, 01:03 PM
Someone doesn't know how to spell and it isn't me.

Bologna=sausage

Baloney=slang for nonsense

That isn't Google's definition, it's called the New Webster's Dictionary.
As for being disrespectful, get real, Dude. I was correcting someone giving out false "facts".

Now can we get back on topic, Mr. grammar cop (who doesn't know his grammar)?

You point that out, but did I not edit my own post and say I was wrong? It's called humility, I can show some.

jnakamura
11-09-2008, 01:11 PM
You point that out, but did I not edit my own post and say I was wrong? It's called humility, I can show some.

You edited your post to say that Baloney is Google's definition and that you didn't know why Google spelled it that way. I pointed out that if you bothered to pick up a dictionary you'd see why.

You should have said, "Gosh Mr. Nakamura, you're right--thanks for clarifying that for me. Perhaps I should study up on the proper spelling and definition of words before I attempt to correct someone with false information and then get defensive when I get caught."

:D

Now can we get back to ballpark discussions?

jimmyjimjimz
11-09-2008, 01:26 PM
For the 10 billionth time, when did this become English class? JEEZ you people gotta stop making such a huge deal about people spelling things wrong. Even if youre all english teachers, which, I bet some of you might be. I wouldnt bet gainst that. Anyway, let's just get back to talking about the stadium. Are there gonna be rugs in the great hall? I've been wondering that for like a long time. Honestly, I don't think so, but it would be pretty nice if there were.

dabigyankeeman
11-09-2008, 01:32 PM
A lot of things bother me about the new stadium.
The upper decks are far, far removed from the playing field. Its ironic that a lot of new stadiums have brought the seats closer to the field, while NYS is placing the seats farther away. Olympic Stadium had better seats than NYS will have.
Unfortunately, I think the excitement of NYS will wear off after a few years and we will be left with just another dreary, uncharacteristic stadium.
I hope I am wrong, but so far I am not impressed.
The stadium seems to be geared towards shopping, not watching a game.

Unfortunetely, I believe you are dead RIGHT.

Perseus71
11-09-2008, 01:39 PM
I have to say, I am really impressed with the amount of effort the Yankees have gone through designing the New Yankee Stadium. At the end of the day, this stadium looks more majestic than anything else in baseball, and we're lucky to have that. There may be aspects I'm not thrilled about, but I think they've done their best not to upset the fan base too much.

NYFan1stYankFan2nd
11-09-2008, 01:50 PM
For the 10 billionth time, when did this become English class? JEEZ you people gotta stop making such a huge deal about people spelling things wrong. Even if youre all english teachers, which, I bet some of you might be. I wouldnt bet gainst that. Anyway, let's just get back to talking about the stadium. Are there gonna be rugs in the great hall? I've been wondering that for like a long time. Honestly, I don't think so, but it would be pretty nice if there were.

Well said, jjj, bravo! After eight years of a LEADER who couldn't speak proper English, what's the big deal for a few misspellings or shaky grammar on here? Speaking of grammar - I sure miss mine! Had a kind word for everwho she met. And a smile as wide as the Danube - she was from Hungary, y'know?

Dekabreak
11-09-2008, 05:09 PM
For the 10 billionth time, when did this become English class? JEEZ you people gotta stop making such a huge deal about people spelling things wrong. Even if youre all english teachers, which, I bet some of you might be. I wouldnt bet gainst that. Anyway, let's just get back to talking about the stadium. Are there gonna be rugs in the great hall? I've been wondering that for like a long time. Honestly, I don't think so, but it would be pretty nice if there were.
Welcome to the Internet.

soup
11-09-2008, 05:47 PM
Welcome to the Internet.

:laugh true

Gary Dunaier
11-09-2008, 06:57 PM
For the 10 billionth time, when did this become English class?

Welcome to English 101. Your teacher is Prof. Unger.



:thumbsup:

jimmyjimjimz
11-09-2008, 06:58 PM
The only rugs in the Great Hall will be on someone's head.

why would peple have rugs on their head? That makes no sense.

Mary Ellen
11-09-2008, 07:28 PM
My cousin just toured NYS and sent me these photos. Looks very nice indeed.

locke40
11-09-2008, 08:03 PM
I would have liked to see the dugouts built a little smaller.

Anubis2051
11-09-2008, 08:20 PM
is there any chance that they paint the bleachers blue like in RYS? it just seams like, if they keep them silver, they blend in to well and makes the area look unfinished.

SparkyL
11-09-2008, 08:21 PM
is there any chance that they paint the bleachers blue like in RYS? it just seams like, if they keep them silver, they blend in to well and makes the area look unfinished.

Sure there's a chance - but not for the 2009 season.

SparkyL
11-09-2008, 08:27 PM
My cousin just toured NYS and sent me these photos. Looks very nice indeed.

It looks like the backstop netting will go over both the Main level as well as the press box. There will still be fishing nets in the suites.

DM23MVP
11-09-2008, 10:02 PM
is there any chance that they paint the bleachers blue like in RYS? it just seams like, if they keep them silver, they blend in to well and makes the area look unfinished.

It doesn't really matter what color the bleachers are painted, you can't tell the color when they're full of people.

DM23MVP
11-09-2008, 10:09 PM
You think the seats are closer?????:confused:

They're definitely not further away, many of the old upper deck seats are now moved to the field level.

DJ Starion
11-09-2008, 10:21 PM
I would have liked to see the dugouts built a little smaller.

They're preparing to trade for Prince Fielder.

Manhattan
11-09-2008, 10:23 PM
They're preparing to trade for Prince Fielder.
I hope that Yankees will get Prince Fielder. I will take a tour of New Yankee Stadium during late July 2009.

cgcoyne2
11-09-2008, 10:42 PM
A lot of things bother me about the new stadium.
The upper decks are far, far removed from the playing field. Its ironic that a lot of new stadiums have brought the seats closer to the field, while NYS is placing the seats farther away. Olympic Stadium had better seats than NYS will have.
Unfortunately, I think the excitement of NYS will wear off after a few years and we will be left with just another dreary, uncharacteristic stadium.
I hope I am wrong, but so far I am not impressed.
The stadium seems to be geared towards shopping, not watching a game.

Shopping? Spending every dollar you have on you? HOW DARE YOU!!!!

Questioning the Great George Steingrabber!!!!

It's all for his fans. His beloved fans. Not money, not greed.

Now be quiet and start saving up. You'll need it. New Yankee Stadium will open soon.

Maybe, you'll want to start walking a little more. A month's savings on gas might get you that extra beer at the game.:noidea

cgcoyne2
11-09-2008, 10:59 PM
Is the darker aluminum color the final color or is it the white on the right side? In the new Oct gallery a worker is painting what seems to be the darker shade.

I think it looks terrible with the dark color as it takes away from the limestone and now adds 3 colors to the outside of the building. I would have preferred if they stuck with the renderings and used the white there to blend it with the upper portion of the structure.

Am I missing something?

Isn't the difference in color caused by a shadow?

thefeckcampaign
11-10-2008, 04:22 AM
Please do not be offended but throughout this topic we have behaved as if nothing makes us happy. I include myself in this....Can't we just enjoy the new park without critiquing every rivet that was installed??? By the way why didn't they replicate the original Frieze?I agree. I was at Yankee Stadium for the All-Star game this past summer it seems to me this new stadium is taking all the good things about the old stadium and dumping the bad parts.

parlo
11-10-2008, 05:37 AM
They're definitely not further away, many of the old upper deck seats are now moved to the field level.Thats not true!
All they have done is changed the definition of "upper deck" and "field level". IMO, every seat below the club seating IS NOT "field level", no matter how many times that euphemism gets repeated. These seats sit farther back from the field a significant distance. I guess I am in the minority here, but I do not consider that a good thing. I thought we learned that lesson from the cookie cutter stadiums of the 1960s.

parlo
11-10-2008, 06:00 AM
Shopping? Spending every dollar you have on you? HOW DARE YOU!!!!

Questioning the Great George Steingrabber!!!!

It's all for his fans. His beloved fans. Not money, not greed.

Now be quiet and start saving up. You'll need it. New Yankee Stadium will open soon.

Maybe, you'll want to start walking a little more. A month's savings on gas might get you that extra beer at the game.:noideaI am sure it will be exciting to go there the first few times. But once we have fawned over the new TGI Fridays or Frankie & Johnnies Steakhouse (or whatever), we are there to watch a game. The NYS seems to emphasize the concourse, while treating the seating as an afterthought. The bowl-like layout puts most of the fans farther back from the field. And dont get me started on how unaffordable any decent seat will be.
In the end, I think all of these MALLPARK features are really just externalities.
I remember Skydome and Arizonas stadium being a big deal when they opened. In both cases the novelty was short lived, and within 10 years neither stadium was considered anything special.
I hope I am wrong, but NYS seems to be emphasizing all the wrong things.
Its the action on the field that matters most, not the choice of chain restaurants and clothing stores.

DM23MVP
11-10-2008, 06:18 AM
Thats not true!
All they have done is changed the definition of "upper deck" and "field level". IMO, every seat below the club seating IS NOT "field level", no matter how many times that euphemism gets repeated. These seats sit farther back from the field a significant distance. I guess I am in the minority here, but I do not consider that a good thing. I thought we learned that lesson from the cookie cutter stadiums of the 1960s.

First off, this stadium is FAR from "cookie cutter", and even if it is, the HOK stadiums are a thousand times better than any of the multi use stadiums of the '60s. HOK stadiums are built for baseball and if they have common features, it's because they work and are ideal for viewing baseball games.

Second, the tier seats may be set back a few feet further, but behind home plate, the field is approx. 20 ft closer and down the lines, the entire field is now visible instead of having huge blind spots down the lines. Like it or not, that's a huge upgrade, especially in Yankee Stadium.

I'll take the tradeoff of sitting back a few feet, which will hardly be noticeable when you're sitting up there, to be able to see plays in the corners.

The old Yankee Stadium was far from perfect, but a lot of people seem to think that it was. You can't blame the Yankees ownership for wanting to eliminate most of those imperfections when building a new $1.3 billion stadium.

I've sat in the upper deck in other stadiums like Camden Yards and Citizens Bank Ballpark and found the experience to be much better than sitting in the upper deck at the Stadium, even though they were set back in the so called "Cookie Cutter" configuration.

monkeypants
11-10-2008, 06:48 AM
First off, this stadium is FAR from "cookie cutter", and even if it is, the HOK stadiums are a thousand times better than any of the multi use stadiums of the '60s. HOK stadiums are built for baseball and if they have common features, it's because they work and are ideal for viewing baseball games.

Second, the tier seats may be set back a few feet further, but behind home plate, the field is approx. 20 ft closer and down the lines, the entire field is now visible instead of having huge blind spots down the lines. Like it or not, that's a huge upgrade, especially in Yankee Stadium.

I'll take the tradeoff of sitting back a few feet, which will hardly be noticeable when you're sitting up there, to be able to see plays in the corners.

The old Yankee Stadium was far from perfect, but a lot of people seem to think that it was. You can't blame the Yankees ownership for wanting to eliminate most of those imperfections when building a new $1.3 billion stadium.

I've sat in the upper deck in other stadiums like Camden Yards and Citizens Bank Ballpark and found the experience to be much better than sitting in the upper deck at the Stadium, even though they were set back in the so called "Cookie Cutter" configuration.

I have to agree here. I have sat in the upper deck at Jacobs and Comerica (or whatever they are called), and it is very nice to be able to see the whole field. The upper deck at Yankee Stadium is great if you are right behind home, or if you are in the lower sections (though then you tend to lose the corners). Otherwise, not so good.

As for field level, who cares? Those seats have been sold out for years. I haven't sat there in almost two decades.

parlo
11-10-2008, 06:51 AM
First off, this stadium is FAR from "cookie cutter", and even if it is, the HOK stadiums are a thousand times better than any of the multi use stadiums of the '60s. HOK stadiums are built for baseball and if they have common features, it's because they work and are ideal for viewing baseball games.

Second, the tier seats may be set back a few feet further, but behind home plate, the field is approx. 20 ft closer and down the lines, the entire field is now visible instead of having huge blind spots down the lines. Like it or not, that's a huge upgrade, especially in Yankee Stadium.

I'll take the tradeoff of sitting back a few feet, which will hardly be noticeable when you're sitting up there, to be able to see plays in the corners.

The old Yankee Stadium was far from perfect, but a lot of people seem to think that it was. You can't blame the Yankees ownership for wanting to eliminate most of those imperfections when building a new $1.3 billion stadium.

I've sat in the upper deck in other stadiums like Camden Yards and Citizens Bank Ballpark and found the experience to be much better than sitting in the upper deck at the Stadium, even though they were set back in the so called "Cookie Cutter" configuration.

"First off, this stadium is FAR from cookie cutter, and even if it is......." HUH??????
I am not calling NYS a cookie cutter stadium. But the bowl layout is a cookie cutter feature that many new stadiums have moved away from, in favor of a more "stacked" design. NYS has chosen to go in the opposite direction. Personally, I view that as a poor decision.

"I'll take the trade off of sitting back a few feet"
I dont consider 20-25 feet as a "FEW FEET".
I guess we just disagree, but I consider that to be significant, especially since field level box seats will no longer be an option.

CHiller
11-10-2008, 07:08 AM
Sorry if this has been asked and answered already, but I don't check this thread too often. Are those tall posts all along the front row intended for a net? Boy, would I be annoyed if I was sitting behind one of those posts and staring through a net that far down the line.

DM23MVP
11-10-2008, 07:16 AM
Sorry if this has been asked and answered already, but I don't check this thread too often. Are those tall posts all along the front row intended for a net? Boy, would I be annoyed if I was sitting behind one of those posts and staring through a net that far down the line.

They are the posts that support the batting practice netting, they get taken down during the games.

cgcoyne2
11-10-2008, 07:16 AM
I am sure it will be exciting to go there the first few times. But once we have fawned over the new TGI Fridays or Frankie & Johnnies Steakhouse (or whatever), we are there to watch a game. The NYS seems to emphasize the concourse, while treating the seating as an afterthought. The bowl-like layout puts most of the fans farther back from the field. And dont get me started on how unaffordable any decent seat will be.
In the end, I think all of these MALLPARK features are really just externalities.
I remember Skydome and Arizonas stadium being a big deal when they opened. In both cases the novelty was short lived, and within 10 years neither stadium was considered anything special.
I hope I am wrong, but NYS seems to be emphasizing all the wrong things.
Its the action on the field that matters most, not the choice of chain restaurants and clothing stores.

Parlo, you're a genius. Seriously. MALLPARK is the perfect name for these new parks. I'll be using it in the future.

parlo
11-10-2008, 07:47 AM
Parlo, you're a genius. Seriously. MALLPARK is the perfect name for these new parks. I'll be using it in the future.I cant remember where I got that.
What really rubbed me the wrong way was Yankees Chief Operating Officer, Lonn Trott referring to NYS as a "five star hotel that happens to have a ballfield in the middle of it".
I realize that the markets have changed, and a simple hot dog vendor and souvenir stand is no longer sufficient. But I think it has gone too far. The priorities seems backwards to me. I dont like it when the game and the field are secondary!
Here is Mr Trotts quote:

http://www..com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/14/AR2008061401722.html

parlo
11-10-2008, 07:51 AM
The link didnt work.
Here it is one more time. Mr Trosts comment appears in the first paragraph of this story.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/14/AR2008061401722.html

YanksRule
11-10-2008, 08:28 AM
I cant remember where I got that.
What really rubbed me the wrong way was Yankees Chief Operating Officer, Lonn Trott referring to NYS as a "five star hotel that happens to have a ballfield in the middle of it".
I realize that the markets have changed, and a simple hot dog vendor and souvenir stand is no longer sufficient. But I think it has gone too far. The priorities seems backwards to me. I dont like it when the game and the field are secondary!
Here is Mr Trotts quote:

http://www..com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/14/AR2008061401722.html

The problem is his priorities are not backwards, it has always been about the money, even outside of NY.. I mean, why else have the Royals and Pirates stunk besides bad scouting, and the Twins had to trade Torii Hunter? It's all about the money. And with these mallparks, you make a ton more money, which at least in the Yanks sake, unlike some other teams, will go back into the team (well, at least a decent portion of it, I'm not THAT naive..). So their priorities being wrong almost leads to the biggest priority being correct, more money to sign better players which leads to a more successful team, which is more important than anything in the stadium... I'd watch the Yanks on little league field bleachers if they win.

Now this may not mean as much in NY where the team would get a ton of money either way (I mean they have their own TV network! But then, so do the Royals and Orioles), BUT in NY, like it or not, corporations are a big part of the revenue, more than any other city, and you do need to cater to them. And also there are the people that make a ton of money and are completely spoiled (I know someone who refuses to take a subway cause she's too good for them), and "needs" that martini bar.

The one issue with this is this is turning off the most passionate fans and catering to the fair weather fans and.. the type I don't even consider a fan at all, the ones that start those stupid waves and are just there to get drunk with friends, not watch the game, come in the 3rd inning and leave in the 7th. But in an indirect way, catering to them leads to a better product on a field, which is more important, at least to me and I think most passionate fans, than anything a stadium atmosphere can offer.

Jim Vaz
11-10-2008, 08:30 AM
They are the posts that support the batting practice netting, they get taken down during the games.

Wonder why they would put up netting when players during BP are already in the enclosed cages and foul balls are not an issue?

CHiller
11-10-2008, 08:34 AM
They are the posts that support the batting practice netting, they get taken down during the games.

Ok, thanks. Do the Yanks not use a batting cage during practice? A cage keeps the would-be foul balls from going in the stands.

YanksRule
11-10-2008, 08:34 AM
Wonder why they would put up netting when players during BP are already in the enclosed cages and foul balls are not an issue?

The cages aren't large enough to protect for the liners down the line curving foul into the stands, and that's the most dangerous area because that's where fans always stand for autographs and not watching bp. I've seen many balls hit those nets.

YankeeFanBx
11-10-2008, 08:34 AM
You know, I always wondered what is up with that "new' script. I thought the Yanks were all about tradition. If you are going to have any script in the stadium, it should be this:


I remember seeing a photo of Ruth and Gehrig wearing uniforms with ' Yankees ' on the front, looked really good to me and bringing them back for next year is not a bad idea.

locke40
11-10-2008, 08:36 AM
Wonder why they would put up netting when players during BP are already in the enclosed cages and foul balls are not an issue?

And why the heck would those poles be up now??

Ralf
11-10-2008, 08:41 AM
And why the heck would those poles be up now??

They're permanent.

NunuMet
11-10-2008, 08:52 AM
They're permanent.

Nahh .. no way.

locke40
11-10-2008, 08:53 AM
They're permanent.

Are you sure, or are you guessing?

yankees82
11-10-2008, 08:53 AM
I went on the YS tour yesterday. I overheard the tour guide saying that the monuments/plaques would be removed at 7am this morning. I could be wrong or could have misheard him. Does anyone know if there's any truth to this?

YanksRule
11-10-2008, 09:01 AM
I went on the YS tour yesterday. I overheard the tour guide saying that the monuments/plaques would be removed at 7am this morning. I could be wrong or could have misheard him. Does anyone know if there's any truth to this?

If that's true, there should be media coverage of it and photos somewhere, if not now, then soon. I mean that's a big deal. Bigger than putting up the neon letters and even moving home plate, at least to me.

Actually, there are stadium tours until Wednesday, I would think they would wait until after that since monument park is a stop on it.

Gary Dunaier
11-10-2008, 09:20 AM
Actually, there are stadium tours until Wednesday, I would think they would wait until after that since monument park is a stop on it.

I've posted this information elsewhere here at the Baseball Fever, but it's worth repeating. From the Yankees' website:


November 9th will be the last date to visit Monument Park. Starting on Monday, November 10th, the tour will include stops to the Press Box, Dugout, limited field accessibility, the Clubhouse (when available) and will last 45-55 minutes.

The Monument
11-10-2008, 09:34 AM
I emailed Tony Morante on friday regarding the Monument Park move. No reply as of today.

SparkyL
11-10-2008, 09:42 AM
I went on the YS tour yesterday. I overheard the tour guide saying that the monuments/plaques would be removed at 7am this morning. I could be wrong or could have misheard him. Does anyone know if there's any truth to this?


If that's true, there should be media coverage of it and photos somewhere, if not now, then soon. I mean that's a big deal. Bigger than putting up the neon letters and even moving home plate, at least to me.

Actually, there are stadium tours until Wednesday, I would think they would wait until after that since monument park is a stop on it.

Unlike moving HP and the rubber, moving the monuments is going to be a multi-day event.

First they have to remove the plaques from the wall and the monuments from the ground. That alone will take several days. They will certainly need equipment to move the monuments, maybe the plaques as well.

Second, MP in NYS needs to be ready. The last pics we saw showed that a lot of finish work needed to be done before anything could be installed.

So they may move the monuments and plaques into storage in either RYS or NYS until new MP is ready. I bet that the installation gets a lot of coverage.

DM23MVP
11-10-2008, 09:57 AM
And why the heck would those poles be up now??

The poles aren't permanent but the hardware to mount them is, I'm sure it's more beneficial to install them during the construction phase rather than wait until the stadium is finished.

YanksRule
11-10-2008, 10:26 AM
Unlike moving HP and the rubber, moving the monuments is going to be a multi-day event.

First they have to remove the plaques from the wall and the monuments from the ground. That alone will take several days. They will certainly need equipment to move the monuments, maybe the plaques as well.

Second, MP in NYS needs to be ready. The last pics we saw showed that a lot of finish work needed to be done before anything could be installed.

So they may move the monuments and plaques into storage in either RYS or NYS until new MP is ready. I bet that the installation gets a lot of coverage.

True, but I think even taking down the plaques and undigging the monuments is huge and should at least be a prominent photo in the local newspapers and yankees website. An empty monument park will look so surreal, don't ya think?

NYFan1stYankFan2nd
11-10-2008, 12:48 PM
They're definitely not further away, many of the old upper deck seats are now moved to the field level.

nyuk nyuk nyuk!! :D

SparkyL
11-10-2008, 01:13 PM
True, but I think even taking down the plaques and undigging the monuments is huge and should at least be a prominent photo in the local newspapers and yankees website. An empty monument park will look so surreal, don't ya think?

Yes indeed. I guess it depends on what the Yankees want to highlight. Taking the monuments and plaques from the House that Ruth Built may not be something that the Yankees want to focus on.

SparkyL
11-10-2008, 01:19 PM
I cant remember where I got that.
What really rubbed me the wrong way was Yankees Chief Operating Officer, Lonn Trott referring to NYS as a "five star hotel that happens to have a ballfield in the middle of it".
I realize that the markets have changed, and a simple hot dog vendor and souvenir stand is no longer sufficient. But I think it has gone too far. The priorities seems backwards to me. I dont like it when the game and the field are secondary!Here is Mr Trotts quote:

http://www..com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/14/AR2008061401722.html

That is the problem that I have as well. It's almost getting to the point where it doesn't even matter if they play the game. Just have the players suit up and then mingle with the "fans" in the Legends Suite Lounge.

It's like going to a car dealer for the ammenities of the building with no desire to look at or buy a car. I don't mind if we went from selling Chevys to selling Mercedes - as long as the customers come to check out the cars.

yankees82
11-10-2008, 04:42 PM
i guess this link is more suited for the Yankee Stadium Demolition thread, but here's an article from yankees.com about the disassembly of monument park, which began today.

I'm glad I went on the tour yesterday and got to see the retired numbers at current YS one last time.

Babe Ruth's monument will be moved on Wednesday.

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081110&content_id=3673433&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy

mookgiants
11-10-2008, 05:50 PM
I'm sure the people who have tour tickets for tomorrow and wednesday are thrilled that they have already started moving stuff over

florida_yankee_fan
11-10-2008, 06:42 PM
Hmmm,I wonder if anybody will say anything if I take just one of these,you know...as a souvenir...

locke40
11-10-2008, 07:22 PM
I remember seeing a photo of Ruth and Gehrig wearing uniforms with ' Yankees ' on the front, looked really good to me and bringing them back for next year is not a bad idea.

The below was posted in the Old Comiskey Park thread, showing Ruth with "Yankees" on the front. I don't have anymore showing the old uniforms of the beloved Yankees.

Gary Dunaier
11-10-2008, 07:41 PM
I'm sure the people who have tour tickets for tomorrow and wednesday are thrilled that they have already started moving stuff over

I wouldn't say that. If the tour still visits the Press Box as it has in the past, I'd think some would relish the chance to take photos of the Monument Park area in its early stages of being dismantled - shots that very few people will have the opportunity to get.

Of course, I'm speaking from the perspective of someone who knows what's happening... others most likely will be disappointed, both at not being able to visit MP and having to see it like this.

Looking back on this thread, I see that it was just five days ago (post #221 in the "Yankee Stadium Demolition" thread, November 5th) that I reported MP would no longer be a part of the final tours. Tickets for post-October 31 tours went on sale October 29, so it's probable that some tickets for the 12th were sold before the announcement was made.

florida_yankee_fan
11-10-2008, 07:53 PM
What I'm so surprised about was how much play the homeplate transfer ceremony(or what have you) received and there isn't even a ceremony for this.I know the Stadium closing-out event got canceled,but wasn't there suppose to be some other sort of commemoration before they started to take the plaques down?

Yankeefan3783
11-10-2008, 09:01 PM
This is my first time posting here. I want to thank everyone for posting pictures of new Yankee Stadium. It's looking great and I can't wait to visit it. I took some pictures this year of NYS from Yankee games I went to, but obviously they are all from the outside and nothing like the ones posted here.

cgcoyne2
11-10-2008, 09:12 PM
I remember seeing a photo of Ruth and Gehrig wearing uniforms with ' Yankees ' on the front, looked really good to me and bringing them back for next year is not a bad idea.

They were the road jerseys, in case you're wondering. I always liked them better then the ones with NEW YORK on them. They wore this from 1927-1930. The interlocking NY wasn't worn til 1936. Babe Ruth NEVER wore it in a game.

cgcoyne2
11-10-2008, 09:19 PM
The below was posted in the Old Comiskey Park thread, showing Ruth with "Yankees" on the front. I don't have anymore showing the old uniforms of the beloved Yankees...

Use this webpage from the Baseball Hall of Fame to see all the old uniforms from the past.

http://exhibits.baseballhalloffame.org/dressed_to_the_nines/database.htm

jimmyjimjimz
11-10-2008, 09:55 PM
They were the road jerseys, in case you're wondering. I always liked them better then the ones with NEW YORK on them. They wore this from 1927-1930. The interlocking NY wasn't worn til 1936. Babe Ruth NEVER wore it in a game.

Then what's up with that hat that David Wells wore that one time that Joe Torre made him change? Does anyone remember that? David Wells somehow got a hold of an old Babe Ruth Yankee hat, which had the interlocking NY, and he wore it during a game. Joe Torre got pissed for some reason (I guess he was just having a bad day or something) and he made him change it, and put a Yankee hat from these days on.



The below was posted in the Old Comiskey Park thread, showing Ruth with "Yankees" on the front. I don't have anymore showing the old uniforms of the beloved Yankees.



ok, I'm not trying to make a joke or anything, but was he filming a sausage commercial there? What exactly is that thing he's holding? I'm guessing it could also be a balloon. I don't know, though.

jnakamura
11-10-2008, 10:32 PM
Then what's up with that hat that David Wells wore that one time that Joe Torre made him change?

He was talking about a Yankees jersey, Skippy.

jnakamura
11-10-2008, 10:33 PM
ok, I'm not trying to make a joke or anything, but was he filming a sausage commercial there? .

They didn't have commercials in 1929, Skippy.

The Football Ref
11-11-2008, 12:32 AM
Turning his hat that way brought him halfway to look like 50 cent.

Now if he could just figure out how to attach ...................

cgcoyne2
11-11-2008, 01:36 AM
He was talking about a Yankees jersey, Skippy.

I guess I really should have said that. Sorry!

Ralf
11-11-2008, 03:22 AM
WCBS

baseballman1243
11-11-2008, 07:21 AM
Wow that is probably the most annoying job transferring all the monuments.

YanksRule
11-11-2008, 08:05 AM
Ya know, I think this kinda proves that the new Yankee Stadium is on schedule and that they aren't too worried about not getting it done.. if they were, wouldn't moving Monument Park be one of the last things they did? I mean, to move monuments and plant bushes and trees can't take too long, and considering how important Monument Park is to Yankee Stadium, if they really did think the new stadium wouldn't be finished, they would have delayed this.

Plus I think the reason the current stadium looks so good still is because they are still having other functions there, I really don't think the sing along on the scoreboard is for the movers.

parlo
11-11-2008, 08:17 AM
Wow that is probably the most annoying job transferring all the monuments.I would rather transfer monuments than salvage all the toilets and urinals.:eek:

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2008/09/toilets_to_be_salvaged_from_me.html

bronxbombers2
11-11-2008, 08:36 AM
The monuments are laying on what appears 2 halves of the N and one Y for the interlocking symbol. Is that going to new yankee stadium, or was that in the ground in front of the 3 famous monuments?

Rob R
11-11-2008, 08:41 AM
Those poles aren't permanent. More than likely they are testing the hardware where the poles are fitted.

Rob R
11-11-2008, 08:54 AM
They didn't have commercials in 1929, Skippy.
They did have commercials in 1929, Dippy. They didn't have TV, but have you ever heard of this invention called radio, where they would broadcast commercials holding the advertiser's product, often being photographed for print ads, Dippy?

SparkyL
11-11-2008, 09:24 AM
The monuments are laying on what appears 2 halves of the N and one Y for the interlocking symbol. Is that going to new yankee stadium, or was that in the ground in front of the 3 famous monuments?

Maybe and yes.

jnakamura
11-11-2008, 09:58 AM
They did have commercials in 1929, Dippy. They didn't have TV, but have you ever heard of this invention called radio, where they would broadcast commercials holding the advertiser's product, often being photographed for print ads, Dippy?

He said filming a commercial. That means for TV, Lumpy. You trying to tell me they were filming TV commercials in 1929, Lumpy?

PHA
11-11-2008, 10:25 AM
http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/11/11/hal-were-ready-for-free-agency/

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/marketwire/0451171.htm


The new Stadium: The team will start to move into their offices in mid January, the 16th or 23rd. Lonn Trost said that the Stadium is 12.5 days ahead of schedule and is now now built beyond the point of bad weather being a factor. In other words, everything now is being done inside. The last part of the field to get done is the mound, which will be built this weekend. … The Metro North Station is expected to be done by the third homestand. … The Yankees have seven suites they haven’t sold yet, which is a result of the slumping economy.

The new technology: The Cisco people are very sharp and gave a great presentation. The 1,100 flat screen, HD monitor around the Stadium can be individually programmed with real-time stats, traffic information, weather, etc. The entire Stadium will have high-speed wireless. The long-range plan is that once we’re all toting around smart phones, you can use that to access concessions stands, merchandise, get highlights, stats, chat, etc.

From my standpoint, it’s a great thing. I can envision this blog community incorporating a lot of that technology and the social networking aspects pulling in people at the Stadium. I’ll bet in a few years the Yankees will have an in-house blog to foster their own network.

The Cisco people stressed that the Yankees are way ahead of the curve with this stuff. No stadium in North America will be more advanced in terms of delivering video to fans. It’ll start in the suites and spread to the seats in time. There is $17 million worth of wiring and other hardware in the Stadium.

The other interesting feature they showed us was telepresence, a highly advanced video conference system. Not to do a commercial for Cisco here, but it was like you’re actually in the room with people across the country. The Yankees will use this to communicate between the Bronx and Tampa. They also plan to install it in Bronx libraries, schools and hospitals so players and team officials can talk directly to kids.

I’ll have some more later on, including some audio from Steinbrenner and Trost.

Aviator_Frank
11-11-2008, 10:41 AM
Call me old-fashioned, but whatever the hell happened with just going to a ballgame for three hours, sitting in a seat with a hot dog in 1 hand, a beer in the other and just enjoying the atmosphere.

Now you'll be able to create a game-day thread right here on BF, upload photos as fast as the professional photogs down in the wells do and surf the net for in-game scores around the league.

jnakamura
11-11-2008, 10:48 AM
Call me old-fashioned, but whatever the hell happened with just going to a ballgame for three hours, sitting in a seat with a hot dog in 1 hand, a beer in the other and just enjoying the atmosphere.

Now you'll be able to create a game-day thread right here on BF, upload photos as fast as the professional photogs down in the wells do and surf the net for in-game scores around the league.

Just sitting and watching the ballgame with a hot dog and a beer? That's so 20th century.

monkeypants
11-11-2008, 10:57 AM
The monuments are laying on what appears 2 halves of the N and one Y for the interlocking symbol. Is that going to new yankee stadium, or was that in the ground in front of the 3 famous monuments?

I think that it is a *bit* silly the care they are taking with the painted disks with retired numbers--which are made of what, aluminum or plywood? These could easily be reproduced, and probably for less than the cost of paying construction workers to carry them over to the new stadium. And it's not like they are old--the retired numbers have only been on display in this form for about 15 years, or less.

I can understand taking great care with the monuments and the plaques, some of which are originals more than 50 years old.

Philtration
11-11-2008, 11:09 AM
They were the road jerseys, in case you're wondering. I always liked them better then the ones with NEW YORK on them. They wore this from 1927-1930. The interlocking NY wasn't worn til 1936. Babe Ruth NEVER wore it in a game.

Actually, the interlocking NY was worn as early as 1912 but they abandoned it for a while.

http://exhibits.baseballhalloffame.org/dressed_to_the_nines/uniforms.asp?lowYear=120&highYear=1970&city=New%20York&league=AL&sort=year&increment=9&pos=10

jnakamura
11-11-2008, 11:14 AM
I think that it is a *bit* silly the care they are taking with the painted disks with retired numbers--which are made of what, aluminum or plywood? These could easily be reproduced, and probably for less than the cost of paying construction workers to carry them over to the new stadium. And it's not like they are old--the retired numbers have only been on display in this form for about 15 years, or less.

I can understand taking great care with the monuments and the plaques, some of which are originals more than 50 years old.

True. Those have little-to-no historical value, yet they could be auctioned for a mint. I think they're missing a trick. Imagine what Ruth, DiMaggio and Mantle's disks with blue plaques would go for.

Saltzy23
11-11-2008, 11:20 AM
Call me old-fashioned, but whatever the hell happened with just going to a ballgame for three hours, sitting in a seat with a hot dog in 1 hand, a beer in the other and just enjoying the atmosphere.

Now you'll be able to create a game-day thread right here on BF, upload photos as fast as the professional photogs down in the wells do and surf the net for in-game scores around the league.
I agree...but the thing youre discounting is that business is done from everywhere, and at all times nowadays....

All I need to do my job is my laptop and an internet connection, and Im not exactly a rare breed these days, especially in NYC....we all know that the new stadiums are catered towards business people....so there ya go...2+2...its just another feature to help foster(or at least be able to cater to) that clientiele....

I cant wait to be able to work from Citi Field....with my laptop in one hand....and a beer and hot dog in the other...same thing you speak of, just the new improved version of it(at least from me end)...

SparkyL
11-11-2008, 11:25 AM
I think that it is a *bit* silly the care they are taking with the painted disks with retired numbers--which are made of what, aluminum or plywood? These could easily be reproduced, and probably for less than the cost of paying construction workers to carry them over to the new stadium. And it's not like they are old--the retired numbers have only been on display in this form for about 15 years, or less.

I can understand taking great care with the monuments and the plaques, some of which are originals more than 50 years old.

As I mentioned before, these are not the original disks (which were removed and auctioned on ebay in early 2001). They were installed prior to the 2001 season.

Rob R
11-11-2008, 11:28 AM
He said filming a commercial. That means for TV, Lumpy. You trying to tell me they were filming TV commercials in 1929, Lumpy?

Well, then you should have said they didn't "film" in 1929 not "They didn't have any commercials in 1929, Daffy.

Then again, you'd be wrong, because filming existed even in the late 1800's so it's not inconceivable that a commercial could have been filmed in 1929 and shown in theaters, Daffy. That said, I don't think that Ruth was "filming" a commercial in that photo.

The Huckleberry
11-11-2008, 11:28 AM
Actually, the interlocking NY was worn as early as 1912 but they abandoned it for a while.

http://exhibits.baseballhalloffame.org/dressed_to_the_nines/uniforms.asp?lowYear=120&highYear=1970&city=New%20York&league=AL&sort=year&increment=9&pos=10

I would love to see the Yankees go back to road unforms with the block-lettered "New York" on the front and matching style number on the back. It's time to get rid of the shadow-style lettering. It's so 1970's.

Aviator_Frank
11-11-2008, 11:34 AM
Hey Saltz - sometimes we need to escape from watching the Giants on Sunday Ticket on DirecTV, the Mets on SNY on a second set, the Yankees on MLB.tv on the notebook, getting updated NFL scores on the Blackberry, all while listening to the ipod . . . and head to the park for some relief from technology. :atthepc

Saltzy23
11-11-2008, 11:38 AM
Hey Saltz - sometimes we need to escape from watching the Giants on Sunday Ticket on DirecTV, the Mets on SNY on a second set, the Yankees on MLB.tv on the notebook, getting updated NFL scores on the Blackberry, all while listening to the ipod . . . and head to the park for some relief from technology. :atthepc
Totally...totally....TOTALLY understand, and I promise you that every night game or weekend game my computer will be no where near me...

But here are my options for midweek matinee games....1. Sit at home and work in an empty apartment. 2. Sit and work at my office in the city. 3. Sit in my seats at Citi Field watching the game with one eye, and answering emails with the other....with a beer in between my legs...

Look me in the eyes and tell me youre not talking option #3....

Yankeefan3783
11-11-2008, 12:20 PM
Although I'm really liking the stadium, a couple of changes I would have made is have the foul (or fair) poles be red instead of yellow. I've seen pictures of pre-renovated YS with red foul poles, and it looks good.

Also, I would have made the dimensions of the field slightly different:

LF - 312'
LCF - 405'
CF - 417'
RCF - 385'
RF - 310'

I believe it's somewhat similar to the dimensions of Yankee Stadium when it reopened in 1976.

Just a thought. :)

monkeypants
11-11-2008, 12:24 PM
As I mentioned before, these are not the original disks (which were removed and auctioned on ebay in early 2001). They were installed prior to the 2001 season.

Even better!

monkeypants
11-11-2008, 12:26 PM
Although I'm really liking the stadium, a couple of changes I would have made is have the foul (or fair) poles be red instead of yellow. I've seen pictures of pre-renovated YS with red foul poles, and it looks good.

Also, I would have made the dimensions of the field slightly different:

LF - 312'
LCF - 405'
CF - 417'
RCF - 385'
RF - 310'

I believe it's somewhat similar to the dimensions of Yankee Stadium when it reopened in 1976.

Just a thought. :)

I agree. I would have made LCF 401' or 405'--not significantly more than the current 399', but symbolically recapturing old Death Valley. Oh well, this has been discussed a million times before on this thread and nothing is going to change.

Yankeefan3783
11-11-2008, 12:32 PM
I agree. I would have made LCF 401' or 405'--not significantly more than the current 399', but symbolically recapturing old Death Valley. Oh well, this has been discussed a million times before on this thread and nothing is going to change.

Yea I agree. Not a big deal or anything, but it would have been cool to see a 400'+ marker in LCF.

NYBase
11-11-2008, 01:13 PM
Was this posted here yet?

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081111&content_id=3674433&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy

curb my enthusiasm
11-11-2008, 02:04 PM
Yea I agree. Not a big deal or anything, but it would have been cool to see a 400'+ marker in LCF.

I disagree. I like watching home runs. If it were up to me, I'd make LCF '385 or '390. This isn't supposed to be a recreation of old Yankee Stadium. It's supposed to be a new stadium for the modern age. And most fans like home runs, not pitching duels.

mrakbaseball
11-11-2008, 02:35 PM
I agree. I would have made LCF 401' or 405'--not significantly more than the current 399', but symbolically recapturing old Death Valley. Oh well, this has been discussed a million times before on this thread and nothing is going to change.
It was only around 385 to left center at the 1988-2008 Yankee Stadium. The 399 sign was situated toward straight away center, rather than the true power alley.


I disagree. I like watching home runs. If it were up to me, I'd make LCF '385 or '390. This isn't supposed to be a recreation of old Yankee Stadium. It's supposed to be a new stadium for the modern age. And most fans like home runs, not pitching duels.
Fans aren't thrilled with routine fly balls becoming cheap homers that land in the 15th row either. Oh, I forgot Alexander has to become the all-time HR leader in pinstripes.

SparkyL
11-11-2008, 02:50 PM
Was this posted here yet?

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081111&content_id=3674433&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy

Fans in luxury boxes will enjoy the use of touch-screen Internet protocol phones, which will allow them to order concessions and merchandise directly to their suites, and even potentially interact with players. Players, similarly, will have their lockers equipped with touch-screen computers.

Can we tell A-Rod to lay off the high, hard one?

Perhaps the most curious advance is the telepresence, which will allow team executives to communicate far more efficiently with anyone from colleagues in Tampa, Fla., to partners in China. In the system demonstrated on Tuesday at the Cisco offices in Manhattan, three high-definition televisions and three corresponding cameras helped capture the images and voices of Steinbrenner, Trost and others, beaming them into a separate room. The system linked voices and sounds, making it seem as if the people on each end were sitting in the other room.

So with all this technology, a new park and a $300M payroll - what's the excuse going to be when they still get can't get passed the first round?

Rob R
11-11-2008, 03:10 PM
So with all this technology, a new park and a $300M payroll - what's the excuse going to be when they still get can't get passed the first round?

They might blame you for bad interaction and advice you gave some players.

SparkyL
11-11-2008, 03:16 PM
They might blame you for bad interaction and advice you gave some players.

Very true. Maybe I can use the technology to give my post-game interview from my house - "I never told him to bunt with 2 strikes!"

curb my enthusiasm
11-11-2008, 03:44 PM
deleted - double post.

curb my enthusiasm
11-11-2008, 03:45 PM
It was only around 385 to left center at the 1988-2008 Yankee Stadium. The 399 sign was situated toward straight away center, rather than the true power alley.


Fans aren't thrilled with routine fly balls becoming cheap homers that land in the 15th row either. Oh, I forgot Alexander has to become the all-time HR leader in pinstripes.

When the Yankees hit a "cheap" home run, the fans are thrilled. And 385 feet isn't exactly a cheap home run. A cheap home run to me is when somebody hits it 368 feet into the basket at Wrigley.

NYFan1stYankFan2nd
11-11-2008, 04:17 PM
Well, then you should have said they didn't "film" in 1929 not "They didn't have any commercials in 1929, Daffy.

Then again, you'd be wrong, because filming existed even in the late 1800's so it's not inconceivable that a commercial could have been filmed in 1929 and shown in theaters, Daffy. That said, I don't think that Ruth was "filming" a commercial in that photo.

Alright - Lumpy, Dippy, and Daffy: if the tree of yaz don't shape up I'm gonna rap youze headz together jack-silly! Yee'got that - Skippy???

. . . .






















:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :eek:

monkeypants
11-11-2008, 04:17 PM
It was only around 385 to left center at the 1988-2008 Yankee Stadium. The 399 sign was situated toward straight away center, rather than the true power alley.

I am well aware of that fact. The point remains that I would, for symbolic reasons, prefer that spot to pushed out a few more feet.

BTW, the "death valley" dimension was ALWAYS situated more toward CF, since Yankee Stadium used to have "extra" OF markers (short LF & RF near the bullpens, long LF and RF more toward CF), rather than just one marker in each of the true power alleys.



Fans aren't thrilled with routine fly balls becoming cheap homers that land in the 15th row either. Oh, I forgot Alexander has to become the all-time HR leader in pinstripes.

Yankee Stadium has played as an almost strictly neutral park (favoring neither hitter nor pitchers), sometimes slightly favoring pitchers. The HRs at yankee Stadium, even in its reduced form, are not generally very "cheap" by comparison to other parks.

johnfre
11-11-2008, 04:18 PM
Maybe this has already been asked, but what is the purpose of those 7 poles along the field wall that runs from the 3rd base dugout to the foul pole in left?

johnfre
11-11-2008, 04:29 PM
Never mind my previous post, I read they will be used to hold up nets during batting practice.The poles will come down during the actual game right? Seems strange the poles are already in place. Easy storage I quess.

jimmyjimjimz
11-11-2008, 05:33 PM
They didn't have commercials in 1929, Skippy.


He was talking about a Yankees jersey, Skippy.

Seriously, what the
Foxtrot
Uniform
Charlie
Kilo

is up with you old people and you're lame jokes? Lumpy? Skippy? Droopy? STOP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

bronxbombers2
11-11-2008, 05:52 PM
Never mind my previous post, I read they will be used to hold up nets during batting practice.The poles will come down during the actual game right? Seems strange the poles are already in place. Easy storage I quess.

johnfre is your last name Frey?

Wall-E
11-11-2008, 06:38 PM
Seriously, what the
Foxtrot
Uniform
Charlie
Kilo

is up with you old people and you're lame jokes? Lumpy? Skippy? Droopy? STOP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

Ever think it might just be you?

SparkyL
11-11-2008, 06:43 PM
Calling all moderators: can you PLEASE do something, anything, about this constant bashing??!!

Wall-E
11-11-2008, 06:45 PM
We're approaching a huge milestone: 10,000 posts. I wonder who will get it!

SparkyL
11-11-2008, 07:08 PM
We're approaching a huge milestone: 10,000 posts. I wonder who will get it!

Hopefully, the 10,000th post will actually be about the new stadium. :shhh:

jnakamura
11-11-2008, 08:04 PM
Well, then you should have said they didn't "film" in 1929 not "They didn't have any commercials in 1929, Daffy.

Then again, you'd be wrong, because filming existed even in the late 1800's so it's not inconceivable that a commercial could have been filmed in 1929 and shown in theaters, Daffy. That said, I don't think that Ruth was "filming" a commercial in that photo.

Listen, Stimpy, everyone with an I.Q. above 80 could understand that Skippy was referring to TV. You don't say, "filming a commercial", when referring to a magazine photo shoot, radio ads or anything but TV. Perhaps they do in the galaxy that you live in, but here in the Milky Way, that's the way it is. And Stimpy, they didn't have movie commercials back in 1929--not that you'd realize that, but it's true, so it was as inconceivable as can be. Obviously (again, to anyone with a higher than previously stated I.Q.), I didn't feel the need to specify TV commercial since it was bloody obvious what was meant, and I don't make it a habit of dumbing-down my replies....although with you and Skippy I suppose I should.

leecemark
11-11-2008, 08:14 PM
Calling all moderators: can you PLEASE do something, anything, about this constant bashing??!!

--There has been alot of bad behavior in this thread recently. Two members have been suspended in the last two days for attack posts here. More to follow if people can not remain civil. ANY personal attack will be subject to suspension without warning. Also any use of profanity.

Gary Dunaier
11-11-2008, 08:24 PM
WCBS

Whether they move these disks to the new Stadium or sell them, I wonder if they've noted which "8" disk is Yogi Berra's and which is Bill Dickey's.

Yes, it makes a difference. Especially if they sell them.

And note that the scoreboard shows the two teams playing as "YANKEE" and "STADIUM." This is the third deviation from the usual "[OPPOSING TEAM'S NAME]" and "YANKEES" that I've seen (the other two being STADIUM/TOURS and PARKS/DEPT).

Wall-E
11-11-2008, 08:28 PM
--There has been alot of bad behavior in this thread recently. Two members have been suspended in the last two days for attack posts here. More to follow if people can not remain civil. ANY personal attack will be subject to suspension without warning. Also any use of profanity.

Can we ask which two members this time or are you guys going to be completely as anonymous and impersonal as usual?

leecemark
11-11-2008, 08:31 PM
--The posters involved have a right to privacy.

cgcoyne2
11-11-2008, 11:15 PM
Actually, the interlocking NY was worn as early as 1912 but they abandoned it for a while.


You are correct.

Actually I meant that they NY wasn't worn during Ruth's era.

cgcoyne2
11-11-2008, 11:21 PM
I disagree. I like watching home runs. If it were up to me, I'd make LCF '385 or '390. This isn't supposed to be a recreation of old Yankee Stadium. It's supposed to be a new stadium for the modern age. And most fans like home runs, not pitching duels.

Most traditional fans would rather see a good pitcher's duel. I would say over 90%.

That is a definite.

monkeypants
11-11-2008, 11:56 PM
I disagree. I like watching home runs. If it were up to me, I'd make LCF '385 or '390. This isn't supposed to be a recreation of old Yankee Stadium. It's supposed to be a new stadium for the modern age. And most fans like home runs, not pitching duels.

Most fans also complain that baseball games take too long, which is a direct result (in part) from more runs.

Anyway, no one is talking about making LFC 450' or the like. Just a couple of extra feet deeper in LCF, and maybe a few feet closer in the corners, to invoke a bit more the shape of the old dimensions. These little symbolic changes would not influence play in any measurable way.

DM23MVP
11-12-2008, 05:40 AM
Most traditional fans would rather see a good pitcher's duel. I would say over 90%.

That is a definite.

Define "Traditional Fans". Does that mean fans over the age of 50?

I'm in my early 30's and I've been a Yankees fan for as long as I can remember, I think I speak for a lot more than 10% of fans when I say that yes, we love a good pitching duel, but for the most part, we'd rather see a good offensive game, including a few long balls.

Pitchers duels are great, but they tend to be a little boring, nothing gets the fans in the Stadium on their feet like run scoring.

peterrod16
11-12-2008, 05:45 AM
http://www.northjersey.com/sports/yankees/Suite_science_not_perfect.html?c=y&page=1

Tuesday, November 11, 2008
Selling suites may not be so sweet a business for the New York Yankees in these tough economic times.

Seven luxury boxes down the foul lines priced at $600,000 remain available for the 2009 season, the first at the new Yankee Stadium. The team still had seven available in August, too.

"There's no getting away from the fact that the world is different than it was, so traffic slows," chief operating officer Lonn Trost said Tuesday. "So you don't have 10 people banging on the door. You may only have two people."

Trost said in August that 44 of 51 suites priced at $600,000 to $850,000 had been committed, and that the $650,000 and $850,000 suites had sold out.

"We're entertaining proposals from different folks," he said. "I'm not going to put them into the sold column until somebody sends me an e-mail and says, 'Done.' It's so hard to say close when you get attorneys involved and you start fighting over terms, and we don't want to change terms."

He said in August that 3,500 of the 4,300 premium seats had been sold, including the $500-$2,500 per-game tickets near home plate in the first nine rows of 25 sections ringing home plate.
Speaking after a news conference to announce a technology agreement with Cisco Systems Inc., Trost didn't have an updated figure on premium seats and said it was too early to determine how well season-ticket sales were going for the $1.3 billion ballpark.

"We can see that the economy is affecting the traffic that is coming around," he said. "Listen, nobody can avoid it. We recognize it. You wake up in the morning and you see it. So we're trying to work with our fan base and understand what their needs are."

He also said the pace of business deals had been impacted by the economic downturn. New York has been working on completing an agreement with Bank of America.

"Things are slow to come to fruition, but they're getting there," Trost said.

New York hopes to move into its new ballpark on Jan. 16 or 23. The Mets began operating from their new Citi Field offices on Sept. 22.

Trost said construction was about 12˝ days ahead of schedule, that interior work such as cabinetry and carpeting was under way and that the new Metro-North railroad station outside the stadium should be open by the third homestand, which starts May 15. The ballpark's formal opening is April 16 against Cleveland.
"Bad weather or snow or cold should have nothing to do any further with what we're doing," Trost said.

my comments;
So six suites at 600,000 are not sold
The Legends seats seem to be sold out
800 premium seats have not been sold yet.
I can see opening day sold out but i am curious for the attendance figures the next game.
At least we know construction is 12 days ahead of schedule

Aviator_Frank
11-12-2008, 05:53 AM
Most fans also complain that baseball games take too long, which is a direct result (in part) from more runs.

A large part of the problem is today's managers think that unless they're making 5-6 pitching and lineup changes per game they're not earning their pay. Longer between inning breaks, more trips to the mound by catchers for "strategy sessions", batters like Davids Wright and Ortiz who step out of the box to spit on or readjust their gloves, etc.

We used to go to games at Shea in the 1970's that started at 8:05 PM and were usually on the LIRR platform not much after 10. Now they start at 7:05 and we're lucky to be on the rails by 11.

As for pitcher's duels, I personally love 'em. (I'm 46) I like when a single run can decide a game, like the 1969 Game 4 performance by Tom Seaver. When you get games like the old Coors Field 11-10 affairs it just cheapens the runs like inflation. A guy hits a dinger, big deal, because you know that by the next inning it will be nullified.

parlo
11-12-2008, 06:59 AM
Tuesday, November 11, 2008
Selling suites may not be so sweet a business for the New York Yankees in these tough economic times.

Seven luxury boxes down the foul lines priced at $600,000 remain available for the 2009 season, the first at the new Yankee Stadium. The team still had seven available in August, too.


Its not just that the economy has slowed down. The bailouts of the financial industry play into this also. The recent AIG backlash, over their half a million dollar weekend at Pebble Beach might also be playing a role. If companies have received taxpayer money from the bailout, it will be a PR disaster for them to be spending $600K on luxury suites and front row seats.
Think about it, ....taxpayers have funded a large portion of the stadium construction, and then taxpayers will be subsidizing the corporations who are sitting in the most expensive seats. A lot of these corporations are going to have to keep a low profile for awhile.

soup
11-12-2008, 07:02 AM
Tuesday, November 11, 2008
Selling suites may not be so sweet a business for the New York Yankees in these tough economic times.

Seven luxury boxes down the foul lines priced at $600,000 remain available for the 2009 season, the first at the new Yankee Stadium. The team still had seven available in August, too.


Its not just that the economy has slowed down. The bailouts of the financial industry play into this also. The recent AIG backlash, over their half a million dollar weekend at Pebble Beach might also be playing a role. If companies have received taxpayer money from the bailout, it will be a PR disaster for them to be spending $600K on luxury suites and front row seats.
Think about it, ....taxpayers have funded a large portion of the stadium construction, and then taxpayers will be subsidizing the corporations who are sitting in the most expensive seats. A lot of these corporations are going to have to keep a low profile for awhile.

NYS is now obsolete. Time to move back across the street

GordonGecko
11-12-2008, 07:04 AM
NYS is now obsolete. Time to move back across the street

Here's some friendly advice, take your ranting elsewhere before you get banned from this website. This isn't the thread for it

soup
11-12-2008, 07:04 AM
Here's some friendly advice, take your ranting elsewhere before you get banned from this website. This isn't the thread for it

what? That was obviously a joke.

Sheesh!

soup
11-12-2008, 07:07 AM
It's just funny to think about how many new stadiums are built because the old ones lack the amenities (such as luxury boxes) that the new era of stadiums cater to. Now with the economic downturn, it's hard for even teams like the NYY to fill up luxury suites....

A bit ironic, and a place for a light hearted joke.

With the ranting going on all over the place in the Shea threads, I didn't think something as innocent as that would draw anything more than a snicker.

GordonGecko
11-12-2008, 07:07 AM
what? That was obviously a joke.

Sheesh!

If it was a joke I apologize, I'm just tired of people hijacking the thread to complain that the old stadium shouldn't be replaced when this is a thread that's supposed to be dedicated to the construction of the new park

Kentucky Bomber
11-12-2008, 07:20 AM
Just read the article on Yankees.com about the hi tech Cisco is installing at NYS. Sounds like NYS will have a lot of the stuff that the A's planned for Cisco Field, which may never see the light of day. Of course, most of the really good stuff will be in the seats we'll never get to sit in.

cgcoyne2
11-12-2008, 07:41 AM
Define "Traditional Fans". Does that mean fans over the age of 50?

I'm in my early 30's and I've been a Yankees fan for as long as I can remember, I think I speak for a lot more than 10% of fans when I say that yes, we love a good pitching duel, but for the most part, we'd rather see a good offensive game, including a few long balls.

Pitchers duels are great, but they tend to be a little boring, nothing gets the fans in the Stadium on their feet like run scoring.

I define traditional fans as those that love baseball. They go to games to see the game. They watch a lot of games on TV. They also realize like I do that the game has been ruined by the offensive numbers these present day babies are putting up.

Barry Bonds doesn't swing at a pitch and the ump calls a strike for the first time in a month. Barry looks as if you pissed in his gatorade.

Players that dive into a pitch during an at bat. Try diving on Bob Gibson.

The pitch right down the middle, belly button high called a ball. If it's called a strike the player looking at the ump all upset.

A pitcher gets ready and as he's about to pitch the ball the batter calling time out and the umpire granting it.

All parts of the game that ruined baseball because "fans" like a little offense.

BULL BLEEP

By the way I'm only 43.

DM23MVP
11-12-2008, 08:21 AM
I define traditional fans as those that love baseball. They go to games to see the game. They watch a lot of games on TV. They also realize like I do that the game has been ruined by the offensive numbers these present day babies are putting up.

Barry Bonds doesn't swing at a pitch and the ump calls a strike for the first time in a month. Barry looks as if you pissed in his gatorade.

Players that dive into a pitch during an at bat. Try diving on Bob Gibson.

The pitch right down the middle, belly button high called a ball. If it's called a strike the player looking at the ump all upset.

A pitcher gets ready and as he's about to pitch the ball the batter calling time out and the umpire granting it.

All parts of the game that ruined baseball because "fans" like a little offense.

BULL BLEEP

By the way I'm only 43.


So I would be classified as a "Traditional Fan" then. I've been a full season ticket holder at Yankee Stadium since 1993, I go to between 50-60 games per year, the rest I watch on TV, I love baseball. I guess I fall into that 10% then. Don't get me wrong, I don't necessarily like blowouts, unless it's the Yankees blowing out Boston or something like that, and I do like the occasional 1-0 or 2-1 pitchers duel, but I'd tend to get a little bored watching 0's accross the board every night.

You may think that the offensive surge has destroyed the game, but I don't feel that way, I consider a good game to have elements of both good offense and good pitching/defense. To me that's an exciting game to watch, but I guess, according to you, I'm in the minority.

YanksRule
11-12-2008, 09:10 AM
And note that the scoreboard shows the two teams playing as "YANKEE" and "STADIUM." This is the third deviation from the usual "[OPPOSING TEAM'S NAME]" and "YANKEES" that I've seen (the other two being STADIUM/TOURS and PARKS/DEPT).

Also remember on Old Timers Day it has shown Pinstripers and Bombers, and for the ASG it was American and National

leecemark
11-12-2008, 09:16 AM
Here's some friendly advice, take your ranting elsewhere before you get banned from this website. This isn't the thread for it

--Here is some friendly advice for you. Don't tell other people what they can post here and don't make threats against other members. There was nothing wrong with that post and you have no authority to ban anyone.

Saltzy23
11-12-2008, 09:24 AM
--Here is some friendly advice for you. Don't tell other people what they can post here and don't make threats against other members. There was nothing wrong with that post and you have no authority to ban anyone.
Cant say I havent played a part in or participated in the debates, but these threads have become almost as toxic as Willets Point right now...

I think all the 'Keep the Old Stadiums' and 'We want new ones' debates were all well and good when they were just talk, but now that reality is here, and Shea is rubble and the Monuments have been removed from OYS and this is ACTUALLY happening as we speak there is a palpable tension between the two sides...I cant imagine its gonna get much better when the 'Grand Prize of Old' starts to get taken down in earnest pretty soon...

The best thing for all of us will be when these places get put to rest(and ASAP), so we can just start looking forward to the SEASON, and get past all of this new stadium friction already...

JAD7
11-12-2008, 09:36 AM
I would love to see the Yankees go back to road unforms with the block-lettered "New York" on the front and matching style number on the back. It's time to get rid of the shadow-style lettering. It's so 1970's.

I agree. I would also like to see them bring back the old school cream colored uniform's almost like the same cream color the san fran giants use. I heard a rumor of a possible change in the yankees uniform for the upcoming season but who knows like i said it was just a rumor.

Mattingly85MVP
11-12-2008, 10:04 AM
I agree. I would also like to see them bring back the old school cream colored uniform's almost like the same cream color the san fran giants use. I heard a rumor of a possible change in the yankees uniform for the upcoming season but who knows like i said it was just a rumor.

Whats the rumored change?

leecemark
11-12-2008, 10:05 AM
--Shea and Yankee Stadium are both doomed. There is no turning back from that. The argument over that is over and there isn't much point to the continuing posting wishing it weren't so. Not much point to all the hostility against those who are having a hard time accepting it either. People shouldn't take this so personally. Its not that hard to ignore a post that you think is off topic instead of attacking the poster.

jnakamura
11-12-2008, 10:14 AM
I agree. I would also like to see them bring back the old school cream colored uniform's almost like the same cream color the san fran giants use. I heard a rumor of a possible change in the yankees uniform for the upcoming season but who knows like i said it was just a rumor.

They should 86 the triple-striped elastic arm band on the roadies. Very 70's looking...not the best decade for baseball uniform trends.

Shadly
11-12-2008, 10:35 AM
Very 70's looking...not the best decade for baseball uniform trends.

I don't know what you are implying:









Sorry, that last one doesn't fit, but I felt it should be in there...

jnakamura
11-12-2008, 10:45 AM
Sorry, that last one doesn't fit, but I felt it should be in there...

Another 70's trend that sucked--[badly] airbrushed baseball cards. Seriously, were those pinstripes drawn by a 5 year old with a Crayola?

Shadly
11-12-2008, 11:04 AM
Or in Mr. Gamble's case, not brushed at all.

eatabagel
11-12-2008, 12:10 PM
Whats the rumored change?

It's actually kind of worry-making. I read a long time ago a rumor on http://www.uniwatchblog.com that for next year, they will have names on back of home unis.

But it's just a rumor. So don't take my word for it. I hope that's all it is.

Edit: Oh oh... here it is: http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/04/01/the-real-first-day-of-spring/ The first sentence in the UniWatch Ticker section. But if you look at the posting date it's April 1st. So I hope this is an April Fool's Joke.

spiderico
11-12-2008, 12:48 PM
Another 70's trend that sucked--[badly] airbrushed baseball cards. Seriously, were those pinstripes drawn by a 5 year old with a Crayola?

A great site on that very topic. Very funny:
http://uglybaseballcard.blogspot.com/

Saltzy23
11-12-2008, 12:59 PM
Weve all heard this argument a million times over....

But this part I havent heard...and was SHOCKED to hear...

'So for a mere 600 grand, you can watch Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez and maybe even CC Sabathia or Manny Ramirez or Mark Teixeira for an entire season.

Or, if the Yankees can't land the big-ticket free agents they want this offseason, you could end up watching Darrell Rasner and Melky Cabrera and Wilson Betemit for the same price. No playoff guarantee with these seats.'....

REALLY?...why the hell not?

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/ny-sprieber1113,0,2214487.column

Yankeefan3783
11-12-2008, 01:28 PM
It's actually kind of worry-making. I read a long time ago a rumor on http://www.uniwatchblog.com that for next year, they will have names on back of home unis.

But it's just a rumor. So don't take my word for it. I hope that's all it is.

Edit: Oh oh... here it is: http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/04/01/the-real-first-day-of-spring/ The first sentence in the UniWatch Ticker section. But if you look at the posting date it's April 1st. So I hope this is an April Fool's Joke.

I frequent UniWatchblog, it was just an April Fool's Joke.

Yankeefan3783
11-12-2008, 01:29 PM
Most fans also complain that baseball games take too long, which is a direct result (in part) from more runs.

Anyway, no one is talking about making LFC 450' or the like. Just a couple of extra feet deeper in LCF, and maybe a few feet closer in the corners, to invoke a bit more the shape of the old dimensions. These little symbolic changes would not influence play in any measurable way.

My thoughts exactly.

doctor_gogol
11-12-2008, 02:53 PM
Sorry, that last one doesn't fit, but I felt it should be in there...


You can't forget the shorts, untucked jersey, and collared uniforms of the Chicago White Sox.

CMart
11-12-2008, 03:19 PM
You can't forget the shorts, untucked jersey, and collared uniforms of the Chicago White Sox.




I was wondering what took you people so long to bring in the old White Sox example :)

davidthecornman
11-12-2008, 03:52 PM
u guys pretty much jacked this thread its about the new yankee stadium. if u can post something about that dont.

mookgiants
11-12-2008, 05:39 PM
u guys pretty much jacked this thread its about the new yankee stadium. if u can post something about that dont.

So you're saying we shouldn't post about the new yankee stadium even if we can?

doctor_gogol
11-12-2008, 05:53 PM
u guys pretty much jacked this thread its about the new yankee stadium. if u can post something about that dont.


Speaking of thread-jacks; I just tried the new coffee shop around the corner this morning. Best coffee I've ever had. He grinds, roasts and blends his own.
Good stuff and only $1.25 a cup.

Ooooh! I'm sorry! I couldn't resist!


I'm sincerely jealous of your new ball park. Comerica in Detroit (my hometown) is nice, but NYS looks world class. I can't wait till next summer to see both that and Citi.

Gary Dunaier
11-12-2008, 07:08 PM
NYS is now obsolete. Time to move back across the street

New (2009) Yankee Stadium is obsolete? Well, that's it... the Bronx had its chance. If they can't keep a stadium for 100 years they don't deserve one at all.

The Yankees should move to the Queens side of the 59th Street Bridge. You all remember that this was one of the sites Cols. Ruppert and Huston considered before selecting the present (1923-2008) site.

:blah:


Also remember on Old Timers Day it has shown Pinstripers and Bombers, and for the ASG it was American and National

I forgot about those. But I wasn't thinking about "legitimate" events like those... I was only considering non-game "teams."

jimmyjimjimz
11-12-2008, 07:33 PM
You can't forget the shorts, untucked jersey, and collared uniforms of the Chicago White Sox.




wow, they actually wore that?......................

....................EEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!

florida_yankee_fan
11-12-2008, 07:44 PM
Apologies if this belongs on the demolition thread instead, but these photos of the MP transfer are on the Yanks website: http://www.mlb.com/nyy/photogallery/year_2008/month_11/day_12/cf3676161.html

Milwaukee County Stadium
11-12-2008, 08:03 PM
New (2009) Yankee Stadium is obsolete? Well, that's it... the Bronx had its chance. If they can't keep a stadium for 100 years they don't deserve one at all.

The Yankees should move to the Queens side of the 59th Street Bridge. You all remember that this was one of the sites Cols. Ruppert and Huston considered before selecting the present (1923-2008) site.

:blah:



I forgot about those. But I wasn't thinking about "legitimate" events like those... I was only considering non-game "teams."
Heck you never know in probaly about 50 years down the line when New Yankee Stadium replaced they might build New New Yankee Stadium on the Exact Same Site Of Original Yankee Stadium :)

The Football Ref
11-12-2008, 08:07 PM
This whole last page should be deleted.

Mattingly85MVP
11-12-2008, 08:34 PM
This whole last page should be deleted.

They all want to have the coveted 10,000 post

Rob R
11-12-2008, 08:34 PM
This whole last page should be deleted.

Agreed. As a matter of fact, I'd rather see an argument about NYS than this nonsense. Does anyone actually think this is fun or funny and what does it have to do with the stadium?

Rob R
11-12-2008, 08:35 PM
They all want to have the coveted 10,000 post

Well guess what? I got it.

(P.S. 10,000th posts wasn't my intent, but I couldn't help it)

P.S.S. This page says 10,000th post, but the front page of "Ballparks, Stadiums & Green Diamonds" says 9,999. Maybe the 10,001 post will do it.

The House That Ruth Built
11-12-2008, 08:58 PM
Does 10,001 have any significance? :)

EDIT: I guess it does. It's the 10,000 reply!

doctor_gogol
11-12-2008, 09:42 PM
Well guess what? I got it.

(P.S. 10,000th posts wasn't my intent, but I couldn't help it)

P.S.S. This page says 10,000th post, but the front page of "Ballparks, Stadiums & Green Diamonds" says 9,999. Maybe the 10,001 post will do it.


I'd rather see an argument about NYS than this nonsense. What does it have to do with the stadium?

jnakamura
11-12-2008, 10:42 PM
I'd rather see an argument about NYS than this nonsense. What does it have to do with the stadium?

:rofl: .................

Rob R
11-13-2008, 01:04 AM
.........................

Pinstripes
11-13-2008, 03:30 AM
my comments;
So six suites at 600,000 are not sold
The Legends seats seem to be sold out
800 premium seats have not been sold yet.
I can see opening day sold out but i am curious for the attendance figures the next game.
At least we know construction is 12 days ahead of scheduleI guarantee that they sell out every game next season.

parlo
11-13-2008, 03:39 AM
What I'm so surprised about was how much play the homeplate transfer ceremony(or what have you) received and there isn't even a ceremony for this.I know the Stadium closing-out event got canceled,but wasn't there suppose to be some other sort of commemoration before they started to take the plaques down?The Babe has left the building!!!! Here is an article along with a photo gallery.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/13/sports/baseball/13yankees.html

Jpiarull
11-13-2008, 05:54 AM
The Babe has left the building!!!! Here is an article along with a photo gallery.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/13/sports/baseball/13yankees.html

4,700 pounds?!:noidea Good lord, and god bless those guys for moving that precious piece of history over to the new ballpark. Speaking of which...can we please now rededicate this thread to new yankee stadium and not all of this unnecessary garbage. Any new pictures from anyone?

DM23MVP
11-13-2008, 05:55 AM
I guarantee that they sell out every game next season.

I second that guarantee, and I'll up it and say that I guarantee that they'll sell out every game for the next 5 years.

peterrod16
11-13-2008, 07:00 AM
I second that guarantee, and I'll up it and say that I guarantee that they'll sell out every game for the next 5 years.

We are in an economic crisis.
I will bet you a beer that every game will not sell out.
Say if you and three family members wanted to sit down stairs behind home plate thats $325 STH(we dont even know the face value price) price times 4 plus parking food concessions. my guess is $1,400 for one game.
Thats insane. If you sit in the upper deck it will be reasonable $216.
Also, if the yanks are not playing well that will harm attendance figures.
im not trying to bash your statement but we live in a different econmony now.

monkeypants
11-13-2008, 07:21 AM
We are in an economic crisis.
I will bet you a beer that every game will not sell out.
Say if you and three family members wanted to sit down stairs behind home plate thats $325 STH(we dont even know the face value price) price times 4 plus parking food concessions. my guess is $1,400 for one game.
Thats insane. If you sit in the upper deck it will be reasonable $216.
Also, if the yanks are not playing well that will harm attendance figures.
im not trying to bash your statement but we live in a different econmony now.

The team not playing well will be largely irrelevant to the equation. A huge section of the stadium will be sold out via season ticket sales. The bulk of the remaining tix will be sold within the first few days of tix going on sale, again well before the season starts. The team could go in the crapper and finish last and it won't matter--those seats will already be sold.

The only seats that might not get bought are the enormously expensive seats, but I guarantee that the Yankees will find some corporate dance partners and sell those seats, even if they are "discounted" in some way.

Really, it's a somewhat smaller stadium within the largest market in the industry. Demand for those fewer seats will be pretty well insulated against the economic downturn.

IPO
11-13-2008, 07:37 AM
The team not playing well will be largely irrelevant to the equation. A huge section of the stadium will be sold out via season ticket sales. The bulk of the remaining tix will be sold within the first few days of tix going on sale, again well before the season starts. The team could go in the crapper and finish last and it won't matter--those seats will already be sold.

The only seats that might not get bought are the enormously expensive seats, but I guarantee that the Yankees will find some corporate dance partners and sell those seats, even if they are "discounted" in some way.

Really, it's a somewhat smaller stadium within the largest market in the industry. Demand for those fewer seats will be pretty well insulated against the economic downturn.

History says once the bubble pops and the teams cannot buy any more championships people stop going. YS was a ghost town in the late 60's, mid 80's and especially early nineties and the same went for Shea shortly after the teams started losting with 5,000 in the stands for almost a decade.

Yankees have one year at best of full attendance and if they are not winning do not count on fans walking up for tickets down the stretch.

MarcianoNY
11-13-2008, 07:51 AM
History says once the bubble pops and the teams cannot buy any more championships people stop going. YS was a ghost town in the late 60's, mid 80's and especially early nineties and the same went for Shea shortly after the teams started losting with 5,000 in the stands for almost a decade.

Yankees have one year at best of full attendance and if they are not winning do not count on fans walking up for tickets down the stretch.

It's not like the good Yankee teams sold every game out until the late nineties, or even came close. Of course, more people come when the team is winning, but baseball over the last ten years is at an unprecedented level of popularity, for good teams and bad. Whether that translates into a continued level of high ticket sales over the next couple years depends more on the economy than the record of the team.

monkeypants
11-13-2008, 08:26 AM
It's not like the good Yankee teams sold every game out until the late nineties, or even came close. Of course, more people come when the team is winning, but baseball over the last ten years is at an unprecedented level of popularity, for good teams and bad. Whether that translates into a continued level of high ticket sales over the next couple years depends more on the economy than the record of the team.

At the same time, the marketing of baseball has changed dramatically over the past decade, at least for teams like the Yankees. They have figured out that it is better to create demand up front (season and advanced tix sales) than to rely on walk-up business. Demand for tix will remain high for the foreseeable future, economy or no economy.

What will happen, however, is that a tanking economy may slow the rate of ticket price increases.

crosetti32
11-13-2008, 08:32 AM
I'd rather see an argument about NYS than this nonsense. What does it have to do with the stadium?

Not sure if these have been posted, but i'll do it anyway.

crosetti32
11-13-2008, 08:43 AM
More neighborhood/exterior shots.

crosetti32
11-13-2008, 08:44 AM
a few more....

ZeoBandit
11-13-2008, 10:10 AM
Looks like a lot of the sidewalks and area immediately surrounding the stadium are getting put in. Looking really good!

yankees82
11-13-2008, 10:20 AM
Gary - what are we looking at in this picture? it looks like it's the ribbon board in the great hall but i'm not sure. where are you taking this from?



btw, phenomenal exterior shots of NYS on flickr. great job as always.

bronxbombers2
11-13-2008, 04:39 PM
great to see the blue construction walls being removed. I love the limestone look, very classical.

jimmyjimjimz
11-13-2008, 04:45 PM
great to see the blue construction walls being removed. I love the limestone look, very classical.


About those walls.............................


.....................does anyone know why they put them up when theyre doing construction? I never understood why they did that. If they don't want anyone to come in, they could just put up a chain link fence. That's much better than blue wood that no one could see through. People want to see the progress of the buildings. So, just put up a chain link fence.

The Football Ref
11-13-2008, 06:17 PM
Believe it or not, some people in the world are bad. And, if they see something they want to steal, they will do it.

You have no idea how many things just wind up laying around in a construction zite, or how much they are worth.

I know, it's whacky, isn't it ?

jimmyjimjimz
11-13-2008, 07:20 PM
Believe it or not, some people in the world are bad. And, if they see something they want to steal, they will do it.

You have no idea how many things just wind up laying around in a construction zite, or how much they are worth.

I know, it's whacky, isn't it ?

Don't construction workers wear tool belts though? So the people who are bad would walk up to the construction dude and just steal it off his tool belt? That's pretty weird.

The Football Ref
11-13-2008, 07:25 PM
I have yet to see a worker carry a 700 pound welding machine on his belt.

Of course, if you knew where it was, you could have a truck ready and break down a wall and have it out of where it was in less then a minute.

That is until I knock on your door letting you know the one you stole had LOJACK on it and to open your garage.

Do you get the picture I have unfortunately dealt with this kind of stuff before ?

LOL

MarcianoNY
11-13-2008, 07:39 PM
Don't construction workers wear tool belts though? So the people who are bad would walk up to the construction dude and just steal it off his tool belt? That's pretty weird.

Dude come on, you've never seen The Sopranos? Honestly.

Wall-E
11-13-2008, 08:35 PM
Dude come on, you've never seen The Sopranos? Honestly.

Don't try man....I think he's not for real. I really think he's just playing all of us.

Gary Dunaier
11-13-2008, 09:56 PM
crosetti32, if you're not aware, it's considered proper etiquette to credit the photographer when you're posting someone else's shots. I try to do the same when I post others' photos, and I appreciate it when someone else shows me the same respect.

Now, on to new business.


Gary - what are we looking at in this picture? it looks like it's the ribbon board in the great hall but i'm not sure. where are you taking this from?

That's above the doors just to the right of Gate 4. You can see them in this shot, directly below the orange "banner" (or whatever it really is).


(Photo taken November 12, 2008. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/3026217429/in/set-72157608995964360/). Link to high-resolution 2048 x 1536 image: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/3026217429/sizes/o/in/set-72157608995964360/).)

YankeeFanBx
11-14-2008, 05:22 AM
crosetti32, if you're not aware, it's considered proper etiquette to credit the photographer when you're posting someone else's shots. I try to do the same when I post others' photos, and I appreciate it when someone else shows me the same respect.

Now, on to new business.



That's above the doors just to the right of Gate 4. You can see them in this shot, directly below the orange "banner" (or whatever it really is).


(Photo taken November 12, 2008. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/3026217429/in/set-72157608995964360/). Link to high-resolution 2048 x 1536 image: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/3026217429/sizes/o/in/set-72157608995964360/).)

Gary, they are beautiful shots, thank you , as always.

crosetti32
11-14-2008, 08:12 AM
crosetti32, if you're not aware, it's considered proper etiquette to credit the photographer when you're posting someone else's shots. I try to do the same when I post others' photos, and I appreciate it when someone else shows me the same respect.

Now, on to new business.



That's above the doors just to the right of Gate 4. You can see them in this shot, directly below the orange "banner" (or whatever it really is).


(Photo taken November 12, 2008. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/3026217429/in/set-72157608995964360/). Link to high-resolution 2048 x 1536 image: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/3026217429/sizes/o/in/set-72157608995964360/).)


Gary, I'm sorry i did not give you credit. I simply forgot in my haste to find some photos online to post, since i was really fed up with all the ranting on this board; I was motivated to redirect the conversation.

They are great photos, especially the shots on the jerome ave side.

parlo
11-14-2008, 08:45 AM
Dude come on, you've never seen The Sopranos? Honestly.Gee, I guess if it happens on the Sopranos, it must be true.:noidea

YankeeDean
11-14-2008, 09:07 AM
As I wait for the grass to take root and the final seats to go in and for the race for C.C. to begin, I'm looking at one of the nicer photos of the stadium, at the much discussed "Yankee Stadium" sign on the left side of the scoreboard and the empty space on top of the right side and I wonder. I guess the Bank of America sign will go there. Wouldn't it be neat and funny (great organizations and indvididuals can poke fun at themselves) if in response to the Mets "apple" popping up after home runs, the Yanks put an old-style cash register next to the B of A sign that would light up and go "cha-ching" right after Big Ben rings after every homer? A-Rod fans would love it. A -Rod haters would note it after "meaningless homers" and it would drive Red Sox fans nuts.

jnakamura
11-14-2008, 10:20 AM
As I wait for the grass to take root and the final seats to go in and for the race for C.C. to begin, I'm looking at one of the nicer photos of the stadium, at the much discussed "Yankee Stadium" sign on the left side of the scoreboard and the empty space on top of the right side and I wonder. I guess the Bank of America sign will go there. Wouldn't it be neat and funny (great organizations and indvididuals can poke fun at themselves) if in response to the Mets "apple" popping up after home runs, the Yanks put an old-style cash register next to the B of A sign that would light up and go "cha-ching" right after Big Ben rings after every homer? A-Rod fans would love it. A -Rod haters would note it after "meaningless homers" and it would drive Red Sox fans nuts.

Here's my idea for a Yankee version of the Mets apple: A big bowl of Manhattan-style clam chowder, and when a Yankee hits a homer, Ted Williams' frozen head pops out.

If someone is bored and into photoshop...

YankeeDean
11-14-2008, 10:28 AM
I guess no response was intended but, no. Yankee fans have more respect for Ted Williams than his own family does.

SparkyL
11-14-2008, 11:10 AM
As I wait for the grass to take root and the final seats to go in and for the race for C.C. to begin, I'm looking at one of the nicer photos of the stadium, at the much discussed "Yankee Stadium" sign on the left side of the scoreboard and the empty space on top of the right side and I wonder. I guess the Bank of America sign will go there. Wouldn't it be neat and funny (great organizations and indvididuals can poke fun at themselves) if in response to the Mets "apple" popping up after home runs, the Yanks put an old-style cash register next to the B of A sign that would light up and go "cha-ching" right after Big Ben rings after every homer? A-Rod fans would love it. A -Rod haters would note it after "meaningless homers" and it would drive Red Sox fans nuts.

There was a rendering of the scoreboard for prospective sponsors that had "Your Name Here" on the right side of the scoreboard . . .

I REALLY like the cash register idea!!

Gary Dunaier
11-14-2008, 11:27 AM
Here's my idea for a Yankee version of the Mets apple: A big bowl of Manhattan-style clam chowder, and when a Yankee hits a homer, Ted Williams' frozen head pops out.

If someone is bored and into photoshop...

I hope the Yankees will have the Cotton Eye Joey run out on the field and do a dance whenever a Yankee hits a home run at the new Yankee's stadium in 2009.

SparkyL
11-14-2008, 11:31 AM
That's above the doors just to the right of Gate 4. You can see them in this shot, directly below the orange "banner" (or whatever it really is).


(Photo taken November 12, 2008. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/3026217429/in/set-72157608995964360/). Link to high-resolution 2048 x 1536 image: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/3026217429/sizes/o/in/set-72157608995964360/).)

In looking at the blueprints, the first five doorways to the left of Gate 4 (we see four in your pic) are for the ticket lobby and not the Great Hall.

BTW, the Martini Bar is above the ticket lobby.

PHA
11-14-2008, 12:02 PM
New cell phone pics by Yankee beat writer, but nothing really new....

btw he says that the cushioned seats will not be installed until after the winter...

http://yankees.lhblogs.com/

DM23MVP
11-14-2008, 12:14 PM
New cell phone pics by Yankee beat writer, but nothing really new....

btw he says that the cushioned seats will not be installed until after the winter...

http://yankees.lhblogs.com/

Looks like the sod got it's first cut, you can already start to see the distinctive Yankee Stadium pattern on the grass. Otherwise, it looks great, it's looking more and more game ready every day. I wonder when the advertisements are going to start to go up on the scoreboard, that will be the next big milestone in my opinion.