New Yankee Stadium construction

[GordonGecko]

I'll say it again.

You don't know what you're talking about.

We--working class kids and parents--went to games all the time.

(To use an old British expression, "I've been to more games than you've had hot dinners.")

Take a look at photos of the crowds at ball games in the 1920s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s.

Those look like rich people to you?

Baseball was always the working class person's sport, and the stands were filled with them. Go look up Sal Durante, the guy who caught Maris' 61st. He was the prototypical NY baseball fan, and he--and others like him--went to games "regularly."

BTW, it wasn't Steinbrenner who was charging $1.50, it was Topping and Webb, and later CBS. And, yes, it wasn't out of the kindness of their hearts. It was a working man's game, and that's what workers could pay.

It's no longer a working man's game. Not with 80% or more of the seats--including the bleachers--being sold only in season packages, and corporations willing to pay $2500/seat per game for 82 games.

To say "Back then, and especially before the 70's ... going to a game was more of a rare thing for the average joe" was absurd.

And it's even more absurd for you to defend it.

Perhaps you think that the character Gordon Gecko was an average Joe.

Rich, who said anything about Rich. Look at the people in the Tiers and Bleachers in 2008, do they look rich to you - they don't to me (including myself over in Tier 9).

The numbers don't support your argument. In 1970-1971 when you were paying 0.30 for a subway ride, Attendance was only 1.0-1.1M. That's in no way a lot of NYC's population going to games "regularly", it's not an opinion it's a fact. It WAS more rare that the average Joe went to games in the sheer volume and frequency that he goes to today (and that SHE goes to today).

It's what people can pay for what they're interested in that rules. People have more money, and more people are interested in baseball.

[Gary Dunaier]

What is going to happen to Stan The Man's Baseball Land and the other shops and bars across from the stadium? Are they staying or moving?

My guess is that they'll stay where they are. It's not like they can just take over the existing businesses that are presently across the street from the new (2009) facility... and they are, from centerfield to the right field foul pole, beginning at the corner of River Avenue and 162nd Street:


Yankee Shop - corner of River Avenue and 162nd Street
Family Dollar (closes at 8, Sunday at 6)
Dugout Bar
99¢ Golden Discount
S+A Sports
Concourse West Dental / Quality Family Eye Care
Family Health Center
McDonald’s - corner of River Avenue and 161st Street

[David Atkatz]

The numbers don't support your argument. In 1970-1971 when you were paying 0.30 for a subway ride, Attendance was only 1.0-1.1M. That's in no way a lot of NYC's population going to games "regularly", it's not an opinion it's a fact. It WAS more rare that the average Joe went to games in the sheer volume and frequency that he goes to today (and that SHE goes to today).

You're reasoning ability leaves a lot to be desired Gecko.

Yes, fewer people were going to games, but the ones who were, were average Joes, and they were going regularly.

Now, more people go to games, and they go regularly, too. (They have to, since, to a great extent, the only way you can get tickets is to have a season package.) But they sure ain't "average Joe" working class people, like they were from the 20s through the 70s.

[COLTS7]

Gordon, while I agree with some of what you have said, I think you’re missing the point. Regardless of the circumstances or reasons, the only point we are trying to make is years ago it was more affordable for the average fan to go to a game, period. It’s doesn’t matter why, that’s just a fact.

The fact is it’s much harder for the average family or high school kid to attend a game today. I live in Jersey and when I was in high school my friends and I would go to 5 or 6 games a year. You think my kids can afford to do that? No

The fan base has changed. It’s much less a family / high school kid event today and much more a corporate / single person event. The average Joe high school kid and the average Joe family today are being shut out. My guess is you don’t have kids, and you won’t be able to really relate until you do.

While they are making big bucks now; I think baseball in general is running the risk of losing a young generation of baseball fans, and I don’t think that’s a good thing.

[TnNYYfan]

My guess is that they'll stay where they are. It's not like they can just take over the existing businesses that are presently across the street from the new (2009) facility... and they are, from centerfield to the right field foul pole, beginning at the corner of River Avenue and 162nd Street:


Yankee Shop - corner of River Avenue and 162nd Street
Family Dollar (closes at 8, Sunday at 6)
Dugout Bar
99¢ Golden Discount
S+A Sports
Concourse West Dental / Quality Family Eye Care
Family Health Center
McDonald’s - corner of River Avenue and 161st Street


Gotcha, I've only been up there twice so I wasn't really sure what is around the new stadium. It just seems all that stuff will be in kinda a weird spot when the new stadium opens.

[TnNYYfan]

Gordon, while I agree with some of what you have said, I think you’re missing the point. Regardless of the circumstances or reasons, the only point we are trying to make is years ago it was more affordable for the average fan to go to a game, period. It’s doesn’t matter why, that’s just a fact.

The fact is it’s much harder for the average family or high school kid to attend a game today. I live in Jersey and when I was in high school my friends and I would go to 5 or 6 games a year. You think my kids can afford to do that? No

The fan base has changed. It’s much less a family / high school kid event today and much more a corporate / single person event. The average Joe high school kid and the average Joe family today are being shut out. My guess is you don’t have kids, and you won’t be able to really relate until you do.

While they are making big bucks now; I think baseball in general is running the risk of losing a young generation of baseball fans, and I don’t think that’s a good thing.

Not to jump into a topic that doesn't include me but... I can speak to the corporate aspect a little... I've mentioned a few times I saw A-Rod hit 500 last summer. We were 10 rows up from home plate and the ticket was $400 I believe. I work for my dad's company in Knoxville, TN and we got the tickets through a company up North we do business with that has season tickets. Let me add we got the tickets for free because we would have never payed $1600.00 for four tickets.

I also sat in the bleachers once when I was in college and had to pay a scalper $60.00.

[David Atkatz]

And in terms of anecdotal evidence, Gecko, my family was poor working class, and yet we went to at least 20 games a year.

I'm no longer working class--I'm a "professional"--making more than fifteen times what my father did, and I can afford to take my kids to 2 or 3 games a year.

[GordonGecko]

Gordon, while I agree with some of what you have said, I think you’re missing the point. Regardless of the circumstances or reasons, the only point we are trying to make is years ago it was more affordable for the average fan to go to a game, period. It’s doesn’t matter why, that’s just a fact.

The fact is it’s much harder for the average family or high school kid to attend a game today. I live in Jersey and when I was in high school my friends and I would go to 5 or 6 games a year. You think my kids can afford to do that? No

The fan base has changed. It’s much less a family / high school kid event today and much more a corporate / single person event. The average Joe high school kid and the average Joe family today are being shut out. My guess is you don’t have kids, and you won’t be able to really relate until you do.

While they are making big bucks now; I think baseball in general is running the risk of losing a young generation of baseball fans, and I don’t think that’s a good thing.

I agree with you, regardless of the reasons, it's much harder for an average person to go to a game in advance, much less last minute, and then have to pay the crazy prices for food, souvenirs, parking, etc... It sucks, and I also agree that a significant portion of the fanbase has changed. But that's how it is, I always look forward, adapt, and not look backward. If you really miss the old atmosphere, there's always the Coney Island Cyclones and Staten Island Yankees. You can find a lot of the old spirit in in the minor leagues.

[YankeeFanBx]

This GordonGecko is one tough man, and unfortunately right about the average Joe going to ball games today. The average fan had better keep up the cable payments, if he wants to see the games.

[MarcianoNY]

The cable payments are not much better, especially if you live out of market.

[monkeypants]

The cable payments are not much better, especially if you live out of market.

If you live out of market, you would never have seen any of those games in the old days.

Gordongecko is right about much of this. In the old days up through the 1990s, the cost of a ball game at YS cost about the same (adjusted for inflation), but attendance was also about the same (between 1 and 2 million). It catered mostly to the local community--regardless of economic class--and a few folks who traveled farther to see occasional games.

But now more people travel farther for entertainment (when I went to YS to see an interleague game v. San Fran, I sat in a section full of people who flew in from SF to see the game). There are more season ticket holders--and not all are the super wealthy: they actually sell season ticket packages for the bleachers and upper deck. Attendance has grown from 2 million/year to 4 million. More demand means higher ticket prices, simple supply and demand.

But at least thee days you can order MLB.tv for $150 and watch all the games, or get YES on cable, or get a satellite subscription. In the good old days, when attendance per game was around 20,000, you couldn't see the Yankees unless your antenna picked up WPIX.

Prices may have gone up, but the reality is that MORe people see more Yankees game now than ever before. Access has increased, not decreased.

[yankies4life]

I was at the game tonight, so these pictures were taken on 4/30. took them from the upper deck in left field. enjoy the pictures and give credit if there used for anything.

[yankies4life]

here are the rest

[Mario Mendoza...HOF Lock]

Thanks for the update. You must live across the street to get back home from the game and upload the pics THAT quick:cap:

[GordonGecko]

If you live out of market, you would never have seen any of those games in the old days.

Gordongecko is right about much of this. In the old days up through the 1990s, the cost of a ball game at YS cost about the same (adjusted for inflation), but attendance was also about the same (between 1 and 2 million). It catered mostly to the local community--regardless of economic class--and a few folks who traveled farther to see occasional games.

But now more people travel farther for entertainment (when I went to YS to see an interleague game v. San Fran, I sat in a section full of people who flew in from SF to see the game). There are more season ticket holders--and not all are the super wealthy: they actually sell season ticket packages for the bleachers and upper deck. Attendance has grown from 2 million/year to 4 million. More demand means higher ticket prices, simple supply and demand.

But at least thee days you can order MLB.tv for $150 and watch all the games, or get YES on cable, or get a satellite subscription. In the good old days, when attendance per game was around 20,000, you couldn't see the Yankees unless your antenna picked up WPIX.

Prices may have gone up, but the reality is that MORe people see more Yankees game now than ever before. Access has increased, not decreased.

On one hand we're spoiled that we can see every game on TV, on the other it must have been something special way back when to only be able to hear the game on the radio and then one day step into Yankee Stadium and see everything with your own eyes for the first time. I don't mind every once in a while just listening to John Sterling on WCBS when I could turn on YES, it's another perspective to the game that I like to have sometimes

[MarcianoNY]

Well, seeing as how I can't afford the package with YES, I love listening to the games on the radio... its definitely a daily ritual. Now, if only I could get internet radio in my car...

[cgcoyne2]

On one hand we're spoiled that we can see every game on TV, on the other it must have been something special way back when to only be able to hear the game on the radio and then one day step into Yankee Stadium and see everything with your own eyes for the first time. I don't mind every once in a while just listening to John Sterling on WCBS when I could turn on YES, it's another perspective to the game that I like to have sometimes


Are you serious? John Sterling is a pompous a**!!! I get the feeling that everytime he makes some stupid comment then laughs, it's like he's toweling off his moist fat lips with a cloth like some high class a**.

Sorry, I couldn't help myself. I hate him more than I hate Steinbrenner.

[curb my enthusiasm]

It's May 1st. That means approximately 11 months until the new stadium opens.:)

[duckydps]

Well, seeing as how I can't afford the package with YES, I love listening to the games on the radio... its definitely a daily ritual. Now, if only I could get internet radio in my car...

XM Radio my friend... you have to listen to home team announcers, but the 81 games with the yankees at home --even if its with Sterling and Waldman-- are great.

[alpineinc]

Well, seeing as how I can't afford the package with YES, I love listening to the games on the radio... its definitely a daily ritual. Now, if only I could get internet radio in my car...

I second the XM. Every game crystal clear, even much of the pre- and post-games, and Ch.175 with baseball talk 'round the clock, it's a must have. How else can I listen to Vin Scully or Bob Uecker, etc. while driving around Jersey?

[Shadly]

here are the rest











What is the orange stuff at the bottom of the facade? Is this a design feature?

[stlfan]

What is the orange stuff at the bottom of the facade? Is this a design feature?

I was wondering the same thing myself. Answers?

[whoisonit]

Looks like particle board, framed up to prevent any damage to the limestone from all the material and machinery being moved around. Common for a construction site in a tight area.

[locke40]

I was wondering the same thing myself. Answers?

I was at the game yesterday, and I walked around the whole structure. On the third base side, the orange "taping" has been removed, and the stone work is exposed. I couldn't get close enough to the first base side, but I am guessing the orange taping is there to protect from scratches and damage while they haul equipment in and out of the Great Hall. The stone underneath the orange stuff appears to look almost like marble, but I really don't think it is.

[Shadly]

I was at the game yesterday, and I walked around the whole structure. On the third base side, the orange "taping" has been removed, and the stone work is exposed. I couldn't get close enough to the first base side, but I am guessing the orange taping is there to protect from scratches and damage while they haul equipment in and out of the Great Hall. The stone underneath the orange stuff appears to look almost like marble, but I really don't think it is.

Kind of looks better with the orange stuff.

[COLTS7]

the bottom part of the facade is granite, and the orange / plywood covering is just there to protect the granite stone while work is going on.

[locke40]

the bottom part of the facade is granite, and the orange / plywood covering is just there to protect the granite stone while work is going on.

Yes, the bottom part is granite; that's what I meant to say. The new stadium is absolutely HUGE. Yesterday was the first time I got a chance to walk all the way around it, and I was in awe at how big it was. It was also the first time I got to see the frieze in person, and it is quite the sight to see. Even though the roof is not as big as the original, you certainly cannot miss it; it's very, very big.

Another thing I noticed was the bottom of the scoreboard seems to start about 10 feet above the outfield concourse, allowing a nice view of the elevated 4 train. If they don't fill that empty space in, the train will definitely be visible from inside the stadium.

[Kentucky Bomber]

Another thing I noticed was the bottom of the scoreboard seems to start about 10 feet above the outfield concourse, allowing a nice view of the elevated 4 train. If they don't fill that empty space in, the train will definitely be visible from inside the stadium.

Interesting...will that 10 feet allow the train passengers to look in, I wonder. Would be nice, and no reason to cover it up as how much can you see of a game going 20 mph past the Stadium, other than to get a feel of what's going on?

[six4three]

People on the train won't be able to see much. They might be able to see the first base deck, but probably not the field.

Even if they can, it's only a few seconds at most to get a glimpse.

[Kentucky Bomber]

People on the train won't be able to see much. They might be able to see the first base deck, but probably not the field.

Even if they can, it's only a few seconds at most to get a glimpse.

But it's a glimpse, which is what is the charm of having the 4 train go past.

[GordonGecko]

Another thing I noticed was the bottom of the scoreboard seems to start about 10 feet above the outfield concourse, allowing a nice view of the elevated 4 train. If they don't fill that empty space in, the train will definitely be visible from inside the stadium.

Too bad fans on the outside won't get a view inside unless you're coming from uptown, since the stop is now going to be before the stadium for people coming from Manhattan on the 4

[GordonGecko]

Are you serious? John Sterling is a pompous a**!!! I get the feeling that everytime he makes some stupid comment then laughs, it's like he's toweling off his moist fat lips with a cloth like some high class a**.

Sorry, I couldn't help myself. I hate him more than I hate Steinbrenner.

I persaonally like Sterling, but some may not. I think people have strong opinions on announcers, so I've started a new thread about announcers in baseball-fever:
http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=76948

Jon Miller rocks, Michael Kay needs a lobotomy

[florida_yankee_fan]

Kay definitely has issues,All things being relative,Sterling sounds like Mel Allen compared to a guy who acts like this on the radio:http://deadspin.com/sports/baseball/i-didnt-know-that-baseballs-unwritten-rules-mentioned-the-holocaust-192319.php

[Shadly]

I persaonally like Sterling, but some may not. I think people have strong opinions on announcers, so I've started a new thread about announcers in baseball-fever:
http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=76948

Jon Miller rocks, Michael Kay needs a lobotomy

Jon Miller is Manny Ramirez's lap dog. Paris Hilton's lap dog knows more about baseball than he does.

[whoisonit]

Kay definitely has issues,All things being relative,Sterling sounds like Mel Allen compared to a guy who acts like this on the radio:http://deadspin.com/sports/baseball/i-didnt-know-that-baseballs-unwritten-rules-mentioned-the-holocaust-192319.php

Wow. I've never once listened to his show because I think all but one of the Yankee anouncers are bores. Now I'm doubly glad I made that choice.

[donut726]

new gallery at Yankees.com. the final steel beam has been placed and the beams holding up the new scoreboard is complete.

[YankeeFanBx]

Kay had an over reaction from hell.:noidea

[GordonGecko]

new gallery at Yankees.com. the final steel beam has been placed and the beams holding up the new scoreboard is complete.

Thanks for the heads up! Here they are:

[GordonGecko]

last picture (6 of 6):

[David Atkatz]

It's called a "topping out" ceremony.

BTW, looks like Jeter is back to being the face of the franchise.

[Urbanshocker13]

It's called a "topping out" ceremony.

BTW, looks like Jeter is back to being the face of the franchise.

When hasn't he? I don't think Arod is ever going to replace him as the face of the team, Jeter is like Mattingly or Mantle in that regard.

BTW, I am sorry but the new stadium looks great so far!!! It's even far better then i expected can't wait until i get to see it in person.

[YankeeFanBx]

It's MASSIVE !!!!
and the stadium looks like a billion bucks!

[six4three]

BTW, looks like Jeter is back to being the face of the franchise.

He never stopped.

That they used a picture of A-Rod on the scoreboard of one single rendering never meant he was "the face of the franchise."

[NYaDiO]

I hope that banner doesnt represents the screen. 'Cause it looks tiny as hell.

[b1011r]

You know its still really early to tell, but it seems like the restaurant may not be as much as an eyesore as many think. It will be big but given the size of the video screen i think it will be the cafe will be secondary to the screen. We shall see though.

[Yankees2k6]

I hope that banner doesnt represents the screen. 'Cause it looks tiny as hell.

No way man! It will be bigg

[GordonGecko]

I hope that banner doesnt represents the screen. 'Cause it looks tiny as hell.

Actually, I think most of that steel frame is going to be scoreboard, that thing is going to be HUGE!!!

[Yankees2k6]

Actually, I think most of that steel frame is going to be scoreboard, that thing is going to be HUGE!!!

Don't forget the billboards.

[GordonGecko]

Don't forget the billboards.

Yeah I see you're right, billboards on either side:

[NYaDiO]

Okay now I see the middle raised part is the whole screen. For a momment there I thought that the banner was representing the screen. Whats the dimensions of the screen again?

[florida_yankee_fan]

Found more shots on flickr:http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=new+yankee+stadium&s=rec

[80SHOCK]

Okay now I see the middle raised part is the whole screen. For a momment there I thought that the banner was representing the screen. Whats the dimensions of the screen again?


I think it's 59 feet high and 101 feet wide.

I'm not sure but it could be the second biggest scoreboard in baseball behind the Royals new scoreboard.
I looked at other renderings of other teams new parks and the current scoreboards currently in other parks: it doesn't look nearly as big as the scoreboard in the new YS and the new scoreboard in the Royals park.

[80SHOCK]

I hope that banner doesnt represents the screen. 'Cause it looks tiny as hell.

It won't. The square shape beams in in the middle will be the scoreboard.
That thing is going to be enormous. Wish it was in my living room.

[Aviator_Frank]

It's MASSIVE !!!!
and the stadium looks like a billion bucks!
A billion three:rofl:

[Urbanshocker13]

Are they still going to have the auxilry scoreboards on the outfield walls like in the 50's??

[Kentucky Bomber]

Found more shots on flickr:http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=new+yankee+stadium&s=rec

Nice shots of the topping out ceremony: the scoreboard supports are complete so the highest points of the stadium are all in place.

[80SHOCK]

Anyone know how big the dugouts are going to be?
Presently the dugouts in the current YS seem pretty small compared to the newer parks.

[GordonGecko]

Anyone know how big the dugouts are going to be?
Presently the dugouts in the current YS seem pretty small compared to the newer parks.

They don't have the specs up for the dugouts. Has anyone seen the blueprints?

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/nyy/ballpark/new_stadium.jsp

[Yoda]

That scoreboard will be insane.

[GordonGecko]

That scoreboard will be insane.

yeah, and I thought this was big...

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/big-tv-watch/holy-crap-first-150inch-lifescreen-plasma-photos-341633.php

[Sean Ryan]

Someone should try and photoshop a video screen so we can tell what exactly we are look at.

[NYBase]

Why did I think it was going to be wider?

Does it look wider in this pic?

[seeknay22]

Anyone know what these things are used for?

[seeknay22]

also.. and this may be a stupid question.. but with the upper deck open air concourses.. and the limited roof cover.... except the last few rows of the upper deck.. where will people hide when it rains?

[MarcianoNY]

Well, that's one situation where the open upper deck concourse would definitely help.

[migo]

Anyone know what these things are used for?

I'm assuming these will house mechanical (Hvac) components.

[MarcianoNY]

Anyone know what these things are used for?

Hmm... maybe to house HVAC and stuff like that?

[GordonGecko]

I'm assuming these will house mechanical (Hvac) components.

Those are for the elevators

[florida_yankee_fan]

I wonder if their still planning on including the the clock on top the left field side of the scoreboard and who will make it.I wonder if it's possible that Longines will?I understand that the Swiss watchmaker is still around,and has been since the 1830's(!!!)

[Aviator_Frank]

I wonder if Longines even makes clocks like that. Shea in 1964 had one, then later the exact same clock was rebranded Elgin, so it wouldn't surprise me if there was a GE motor behind the face and Longines/Elgin/Seiko/Armatron/whoever pays to get their name on it.

[Aviator_Frank]

Someone should try and photoshop a video screen so we can tell what exactly we are look at.

The face of the franchise, right here.

[80SHOCK]

The face of the franchise, right here. Cut that out!:rofl:

[Aviator_Frank]

Pavano, Mike Hampton, Mo Vaughn, Mark Prior . . . you can build the Marlins some fancy new digs on the money those guys hijacked from their respective teams.

[The Splendid Splinter]

The screen will be bigger than that. It's almost twice as wide then the height... It's more like this. (sorry I use Paint to show you what it'll look like cuz I don't have photoshop.

[MarcianoNY]

Yeah its going to be in 16:9 format, right? Seeing as how its HD...
On another note, why does it seem like there are no pictures of the new stadium on the 3rd base side? I'd be interested in seeing how that's coming along.

[yankees82]

2 minute clip of the topping off. probably taken from a cell phone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb1Safpjs6s

[Rob R]

I got to see the NYS up close and in person for the first time this evening.

My first impression was that it was huge and the limestone is beautiful, much more impressive than the concrete used in the old stadium.

But after an hour of "touring" around the stadium, a few things struck me. First, after looking at the new YS for a while, the exterior starts looking bland in comparison to the older one across the way. What I mean by this, is that the older stadium design seems much more detailed and refined.

It appears that the designers of the older stadium paid much more attention to detail and seemed to take pride in their artistry. As only one example I noticed some "little" things like the small sculptured squares within the arches and windows of the original and renovated version. It's these small things that tell me that more thought was put into the original stadium design, whereas in comparison, the new YS just looks slapped together just to "somewhat" resemble the original

As beautiful as the limestone and gold lettering look, and as massive as the new YS is, still, something is missing, at least to my eyes. I was actually more impressed with the pictures prior to inspecting it in person.

Another disappointment is the frieze. Yes, it looks like the old YS frieze at first glance, but as I took a closer look I noticed how thin the metal frieze is and how it lacked depth and detail. Looks pretty cheap when compared to the original and even the knockoff in CF of the renovated stadium. For 1.3 billion, we should expect better.

All in all, the entire design could have been worse, so I'm somewhat pleased. I'm sure it will provide amenities that the old stadium lacked (this is a good thing) but I'm afraid that the new YS will never have the character of the original or even the renovated version, at least aesthetically.

[MarcianoNY]

Good points about the detail. My general impression about architecture is that somewhere in the middle of the 20th century, changes in style and an emphasis on simplicity meant that detail was left by the wayside. Now the art of skilled masonry, carpentry - whatever - is gone. Obviously I'm generalizing, but the same can be said for most art forms in the mid-twentieth century. That is unfortunate. We will never be able to replace the beautiful houses, churches, ballparks, etc, that were swept away in the name of "modernism" and "urban renewal," in part because nobody knows how. That being said, I do think the new stadium looks very elegant, but it is a little plain right now for my taste. I'll wait until its complete though to make my judgement.

[Rob R]

Good points about the detail. My general impression about architecture is that somewhere in the middle of the 20th century, changes in style and an emphasis on simplicity meant that detail was left by the wayside. Now the art of skilled masonry, carpentry - whatever - is gone. Obviously I'm generalizing, but the same can be said for most art forms in the mid-twentieth century. That is unfortunate. We will never be able to replace the beautiful houses, churches, ballparks, etc, that were swept away in the name of "modernism" and "urban renewal," in part because nobody knows how. That being said, I do think the new stadium looks very elegant, but it is a little plain right now for my taste. I'll wait until its complete though to make my judgement.

You're 100% on the money. I'm hoping that the finished product will at least add a semblance of detail, hopefully including some throwbacks from the era you describe, but I won't hold my breath.

Instead what we seem to have, at least at this point, is flat limestone and repetitive, almost monotonous arches, and nothing else; nothing in between, to the left, to the right, or up or down. To somebody who doesn't have an eye for detail, or for somebody who just doesn't care, this just might suffice. Afterall, to them it "resembles" .....sorta, kinda, the original 1923 stadium. That just may be good enough for some.

In the meantime, I'm hoping that some type of ornament or two is added to at least show that somebody gave it some thought when they designed the new stadium.

This isn't a knock, it's more or less the reality of modern architecture. Like I said, it could have been worse. And yes, it DOES look elegant, despite the lack of detail. It certainly isn't an HOK clone, nor does it have an HOK pseudo retro look at least from the outside, so that's a good thing.

[MarcianoNY]

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[Manhattan]

Photo credits: AnitaG http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/AnitaG/Yankee%20Stadium%20Tour/

Momc620 http://s64.photobucket.com/albums/h181/momc620/old%20new%20yankee%20stadium/ I hope I will be at Old Yankee Stadium this season if not I will be at New Yankee Stadium next season.

[nymdan]

I know it's been said before, but the new stadium would really look SO much better with a second level of facade enclosing the upper concourse, rather than having the upper deck supports exposed.




Even if they didn't want to do the second level of facade, they could have done a better job than what they have now. I think the the more curved, silverish upper deck canopy on this version of the park looks better. Plus in that version, the steel supports for the upper deck are blue, which is a little more interesting to look at than the white on white behind the light limestone.

[YankeeStadium1923]

I know it's been said before, but the new stadium would really look SO much better with a second level of facade enclosing the upper concourse, rather than having the upper deck supports exposed.




Even if they didn't want to do the second level of facade, they could have done a better job than what they have now. I think the the more curved, silverish upper deck canopy on this version of the park looks better. Plus in that version, the steel supports for the upper deck are blue, which is a little more interesting to look at than the white on white behind the light limestone.

I also think the Main Gates should be set back within the rest of the structure to give the Stadium a much more uniform look. The structure is huge and the main gates jet out way too far from the rest of the Stadium.

[Kentucky Bomber]

I also think the Main Gates should be set back within the rest of the structure to give the Stadium a much more uniform look. The structure is huge and the main gates jet out way too far from the rest of the Stadium.

And gargoyles should have been placed on the rim of the roof. These would have given the building a more classical feel. Hanging gardens surrounding the building, populated by trained parrots recreating great moments in Yankee history. And an open row behind every seat so naked slave girls could fan us with palm fronds on hot days. What were the architects thinking?

[MJP]

And an open row behind every seat so naked slave girls could fan us with palm fronds on hot days.

I like the sound of that. It would be a great way to get Roger Clemens back to the Stadium.

[YankeeStadium1923]

And gargoyles should have been placed on the rim of the roof. These would have given the building a more classical feel. Hanging gardens surrounding the building, populated by trained parrots recreating great moments in Yankee history. And an open row behind every seat so naked slave girls could fan us with palm fronds on hot days. What were the architects thinking?
So what are you saying? I'm not entitled to have an opinion?

Who ever said that I wanted the gargoyles of Pennsylvania Station on top of Yankee Stadium? I guess you prefer a Pinto over a Corvette!

You never saw the New Stadium in person so what are you basing your judgement on?
The Main Gates jetting out from the existing structure is an eyesore and would look more uniform within the existing structure....


Why don't you concentrate on what's going on in Kentucky like The Kentucky Derby!

The discussion we had on the original Pennsylvania Station was a month ago...And I think we established that you prefer the new rat filled corridors of the existing Pann Station over the work of art by McKim, Mead, and White.

[Aviator_Frank]

ITA that the outer layer above the main facade should be wrapped somehow. It looks unfinished, half-assed and very conflicting if you will. You have a handsome limestone collonade, then above you have the inner workings of the frame, the bones of the upper deck, painted in white of all things.

At least hit it with a shade of dark grey to black so as not to stand out so much.

[80SHOCK]

I know it's been said before, but the new stadium would really look SO much better with a second level of facade enclosing the upper concourse, rather than having the upper deck supports exposed.




Even if they didn't want to do the second level of facade, they could have done a better job than what they have now. I think the the more curved, silverish upper deck canopy on this version of the park looks better. Plus in that version, the steel supports for the upper deck are blue, which is a little more interesting to look at than the white on white behind the light limestone.


I agree! It would look more like the old YS too.
Maybe sometime in the next couple of years they'll realize it and put it there.

[Gary Dunaier]

I also think the Main Gates should be set back within the rest of the structure to give the Stadium a much more uniform look. The structure is huge and the main gates jet out way too far from the rest of the Stadium.

Maybe they have it that way to provide space for "security" to frisk the fans and do bag checks?


And an open row behind every seat so naked slave girls could fan us with palm fronds on hot days.

Hey, if they had that, I don't think I'd care what was happening on the field!!!!! :highfive:

[Urbanshocker13]

And gargoyles should have been placed on the rim of the roof. These would have given the building a more classical feel. Hanging gardens surrounding the building, populated by trained parrots recreating great moments in Yankee history. And an open row behind every seat so naked slave girls could fan us with palm fronds on hot days. What were the architects thinking?

Actually that sounds really cool!!!:highfive: Can we still contact HOK???

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[YankeeStadium1923]

Maybe they have it that way to provide space for "security" to frisk the fans and do bag checks?



Hey, if they had that, I don't think I'd care what was happening on the field!!!!! :highfive:
Possibly....However New Comiskey and Camden is similiar and they opened in the early 1990's...And now that I think of it most HOK Stadiums....It's just an opinion....With such a hugh structure you don't need the Main gates jetting out too far from the rest of the Stadium.

[NYBase]

The gate is further out in order have wider concourses. There could be worse things.

[YankeeFanUK]

thanks to everyone for the constant updates/pics

[GordonGecko]

I agree about detail being lost in new constructions. I just don't understand why, because people place such a high value on the detail. Builders don't even need to be original, they could just maintain a catalogue of classical building details and then recreate them a-la-carte on new buildings with pre-fab using modern laser guided machinery. It's not that much more expensive and it adds so much to a structure.

[YankeeStadium1923]

The gate is further out in order have wider concourses. There could be worse things.
I don't think thats necessarily true....The entire stadium is going to have wider concourses not just near the main gates....And besides the computer rendering shown above was the original design...Thankfully...Many changes were made to the original plan.

[NYBase]

I don't think thats necessarily true....The entire stadium is going to have wider concourses not just near the main gates....And besides the computer rendering shown above was the original design...Thankfully...Many changes were made to the original plan.

Everything will be wider and bigger. The gates being out add to the size of walking space everywhere. I wasn't talking about the rendering above. :)

[YankeeStadium1923]

Everything will be wider and bigger. The gates being out adds to the side of walking space everywhere. I wasn't talking about the rendering above. :)
True....I'll take a closer look later today before the game...However, McSorley's and Billy's may take priority....And if it rains...I'll have to wait till next week....

[YankeeFanUK]

i`ll be flying over from the Uk for my annual std visit next year...do you think it will be a tough ticket in the new Std ?

[Jim Vaz]

i`ll be flying over from the Uk for my annual std visit next year...do you think it will be a tough ticket in the new Std ?

I'm sure for the big series' games against the Red Sox, Mets, or on the weekends it will be a pretty difficult to near impossible without paying an arm and a leg on a scalping site to get tickets, but I'm sure that you will be able to get seats for a midweek game against a Twins, Rays, Kansas City in the new park.
With that said though you will not find that many nights with empty seats.

[Kentucky Bomber]

i`ll be flying over from the Uk for my annual std visit next year...do you think it will be a tough ticket in the new Std ?

If you hit the online sales early for a low interest game you should be able to get in without a problem. But wait too long and forget it, or settle for a lousy seat. I wanted to see a game at the new Busch the year it opened and had a tough time getting a ticket for a time period that worked for me. And when I got there the place was hardly filled (it was a mid-week day game) as a lot of plan holders didn't show.

Anyway, I don't think it will be easy getting into the new building next year, at least at face value. StubHub will be alive as usual, though.

[GordonGecko]

i`ll be flying over from the Uk for my annual std visit next year...do you think it will be a tough ticket in the new Std ?

The recent reality of Yankees tickets is that to get the Red Sox or Subway Series tickets, you have to get a season plan. So people have been buying the plans and selling off the other games at face or below. You'll easily be able to grab some tickets for midweek games and your best deal will actually be the day of the game itself (that's when everyone who hasn't gotten their price or hasn't gotten any offers really get desperate and sell at almost any price). Weekends can be a little tougher, so you should probably buy ahead and ask for face value (not day of game price), but as someone said if you want Red Sox (especially July 4th) or Mets tickets, be prepared to pay $70-$125 each for Tier Reserved (make sure to try and negotiate)


EDIT 2:30 pm: I just re-read your comment and noticed you were talking about next year, woops! I have no idea how next year will play out, but I'd guess that getting tickets at a fair price will be much harder

[YankeeFanUK]

thanks for all the comments guys...i usually fly over with my wife and youngest son..we did the Tampa series 3 weeks ago and i got tix from t/master no problem ( bought them as soon as they went on sale ) but im thinking i might be better doing next year solo..it might be really hard to get 3 tix seating together

[six4three]

I agree about detail being lost in new constructions. I just don't understand why, because people place such a high value on the detail.

It's a change in our aesthetics. We don't want lots of geegaws or ornamentation on buildings - clean lines are preferred.

[GordonGecko]

It's a change in our aesthetics. We don't want lots of geegaws or ornamentation on buildings - clean lines are preferred.

Maybe you're right, but I think there's got to be a market for buildings with ornamentation, I just don't see it anywhere on any new constructions. In the case of Yankee Stadium '09, they're trying to recreate some of the original architecture so I think it would only be fitting to include some traditional detailing which I'm sure could be nicely integrated with the clean lines.

[MarcianoNY]

It's a change in our aesthetics. We don't want lots of geegaws or ornamentation on buildings - clean lines are preferred.

It all goes back to the high esteem we still have for classicalism. To me this new stadium takes elements of the old one and filters them through a neo-classical style. This may sound blasphemous to some but in some ways I think the lines and proportions are actually more balanced than the 1923 design: the taller, open windows; However, even classical architecture has ornamentation where appropriate... Ideally it doesn't dominate the building, but gives you little things to appreciate when you get up close, like the terra-cotta sculptures on the old entrances.

[GordonGecko]

It all goes back to the high esteem we still have for classicalism. To me this new stadium takes elements of the old one and filters them through a neo-classical style. This may sound blasphemous to some but in some ways I think the lines and proportions are actually more balanced than the 1923 design: the taller, open windows; However, even classical architecture has ornamentation where appropriate... Ideally it doesn't dominate the building, but gives you little things to appreciate when you get up close, like the terra-cotta sculptures on the old entrances.

And to think how it started off so simple, all lonely out in the wilderness of the Bronx...

[MarcianoNY]

Yeah these pictures are amazing; with the little farmhouse on the top and such. Everthing must change...

[six4three]

Lovely pics, Gord. Thanks.

I actually think some of the terra cotta details on Old Yankee Stadium are needlessly complicated.


I can see six more of that exact same one, and three of the "NY" ones in between here on the balconies at gate 2, not to mention the other two in between the windows.



And a closeup..


I would love to have the NY one..

I like the little NY shields, but the ones with the balls don't add much more than just more details to the park.

[GordonGecko]

Lovely pics, Gord. Thanks.

I actually think some of the terra cotta details on Old Yankee Stadium are needlessly complicated.

I like the little NY shields, but the ones with the balls don't add much more than just more details to the park.

As a metaphor, those little details are the building's personality...

[MarcianoNY]

I like the little NY shields, but the ones with the balls don't add much more than just more details to the park.

Thats my point though. When you see the Parthenon, is the first thing you notice the sculptures on the frieze? Probably not. It would still be just as elegant and beautiful without them, but when you're up close it gives you another level of detail to appreciate. (This is a pic of a replica in Nashville, btw)

[six4three]

As a metaphor, those little details are the building's personality...

Yes. That can be a good thing or a bad thing. So can a lack of those little details.

Looking up at the new Yankee Stadium, it already has a whole lot of personality. And I'm loving it more each time I see it.

[whoisonit]

As a metaphor, those little details are the building's personality...

As a metaphor . . . they'll be missing on the new one . . .:dance

[whoisonit]

Thats my point though. When you see the Parthenon, . . .

OMG. :) Ya gotta love that Yankee fan mindset !

[MarcianoNY]

OMG. :) Ya gotta love that Yankee fan mindset !

What's that supposed to mean?

[six4three]

It means non-Yankee fans don't understand the true importance of the building. :D

[Jim Vaz]

I personally think that those little minute details are what sets places apart To me those little things are essential. Of course sometimes too much can be gawdy and overbearing and you have to mix streamline with detail, and do it the right way.

[whoisonit]

What's that supposed to mean?

It's a joke. I love Citi Field, but it never crossed my mind to compare it to something as historic & historicaly important as The Parthenon ! I love it, good for you. I think it's a riot.

[whoisonit]

It means non-Yankee fans don't understand the true importance of the building. :D

That too.

.....

[MarcianoNY]

Ha. Don't worry, I gotcha. I'm pretty sure that part of the parthenon is called the frieze too, which makes the similarity that much more striking.. Lol

[GordonGecko]

It's a joke. I love Citi Field, but it never crossed my mind to compare it to something as historic & historicaly important as The Parthenon ! I love it, good for you. I think it's a riot.

One important difference: the ancient Greeks worshiped those made up pagan gods, whereas Yankee fans worshiped the real deal Babe Ruth ;)

[whoisonit]

One important difference: the ancient Greeks worshiped those made up pagan gods, whereas Yankee fans worshiped the real deal Babe Ruth ;)

But you do all follow some other Greek practices.

[GordonGecko]

But you do all follow some other Greek practices.

What Willie Randolph does to you every night doesn't count...

:rofl:

[whoisonit]

What Willie Randolph does to you every night doesn't count...
:rofl:

I guess what it comes down to is: who's in 1st and who's got Johan ? I think you'll be taking it all year long. Now just make like Ned Beatty boy.

[YankeeFanUK]

I guess what it comes down to is: who's in 1st and who's got Johan ? I think you'll be taking it all year long. Now just make like Ned Beatty boy.

who was in 1st with 20 games to go last year YET blew it..1st in May means nothing..in fact to a Mets fan, 1st in Sept means nothing too :)

[whoisonit]

Sorry. Didn't mean to rile you guys up. I know it's hard enough knowing there's still 92 years to go in the Red Sox Century.
btw - who's pitching tonite ?

[Yoda]

But you do all follow some other Greek practices.



:rofl::rofl:


Subtle

[MarcianoNY]

Sorry. Didn't mean to rile you guys up. I know it's hard enough knowing there's still 92 years to go in the Red Sox Century.
btw - who's pitching tonite ?

2008 Cy Young Award winner is pitchin tonight, that's who.

[whoisonit]

2008 Cy Young Award winner is pitchin tonight, that's who.

No, no, no. I mean for the Yanks.

[Rob R]

Why are we feeding whoisonit? I recommend we ignore him so he'll just go away and obsess over the Yankees in some other thread, hopefully a Mets or Sox one.

[whoisonit]

hey pal, nobody is feeding anybody so mind your own buisness.

[Gary Dunaier]

in fact to a Mets fan, 1st in Sept means nothing too :)

Sad, but true... the only thing that really counts is who's in first on the last day of the season... :choke:

[YankeeFanUK]

Why are we feeding whoisonit? I recommend we ignore him so he'll just go away and obsess over the Yankees in some other thread, hopefully a Mets or Sox one.

i like whoisonit...guys got a sense of humour

[locke40]

I guess the lack of an overhanging upper deck in NYS is a throw-back to the old days. :rofl:

Colosseum in Rome:

[YanksRule]

I guess the lack of a overhanging upper deck in NYS is a throw-back to the old days. :rofl:

Colosseum in Rome:


Except now the "Senators" would be sitting in the middle in cushiony seats with waiter service and free parking and... whatever else they have :)

[MarcianoNY]

Nicely done.

[locke40]

Women and plebeians are all crammed up in the upper deck.

Somethings never change!!1! LMAO!!1!

(hides) :hide:

[YankeeFanBx]

hey pal, nobody is feeding anybody so mind your own buisness.
The yhc must be 'YANKEES HATERS CLUB':eek:

[MarcianoNY]

Women and plebeians are all crammed up in the upper deck.

Somethings never change!!1! LMAO!!1!

(hides) :hide:

Its pretty amazing though how they had all the basics figured out back then.

[Pinstripes]

Even if they didn't want to do the second level of facade, they could have done a better job than what they have now. I think the the more curved, silverish upper deck canopy on this version of the park looks better. Plus in that version, the steel supports for the upper deck are blue, which is a little more interesting to look at than the white on white behind the light limestone.
I don't think those steel beams are blue. I think they're the "limestone" off white color. I think it's the fact that the painting there is a water color, and the "outlines" of all the objects are done in a darker color combined with the small size of that painting that make them look blue. Either way, I think the current plans are MUCH better than that painting.

As for the sliver roof, who cares what the roof looks like. You don't SEE it from the ground - the only place that matters.

A lot of people are making comments based on aerial views or views from the upper deck of current YS, etc. You have to realize that the external view of the stadium that we will all see will be from ground level. If you'll notice, most of the ground level pictures we've seen are vastly different than the overhead ones or the pictures taken from the uppder deck of the current stadium.

[Pinstripes]

No, no, no. I mean for the Yanks.Hi. This is the Yankee Stadium Construction thread. Not the "let's bait Yankee fans any which way possible" thread. Thanks for dropping by.

[MarcianoNY]

Hey its all good. He knows who pitched for the Yanks tonight.

[ben10027]

Dose any one know who will actually own the new stadium? Is it the city or the yanks. Or a partnership? from what i know the yankees are building all of it except the infrastructure.


edit...any help?

[nymdan]

I don't think those steel beams are blue. I think they're the "limestone" off white color. I think it's the fact that the painting there is a water color, and the "outlines" of all the objects are done in a darker color combined with the small size of that painting that make them look blue. Either way, I think the current plans are MUCH better than that painting.

As for the sliver roof, who cares what the roof looks like. You don't SEE it from the ground - the only place that matters.

A lot of people are making comments based on aerial views or views from the upper deck of current YS, etc. You have to realize that the external view of the stadium that we will all see will be from ground level. If you'll notice, most of the ground level pictures we've seen are vastly different than the overhead ones or the pictures taken from the uppder deck of the current stadium.

I was talking about it from the ground level. I posted this picture, and the facade just kind of looks incomplete to me:


When I was talking about the roof, I meant not only the canopy over the upper deck but the whole enclosure of the upper deck, which you most definitely see from the ground level.
Otherwise you would be able to see no difference between this


And this

[jerseyyankeefan]

In person, you really don't see as much of the support structure of the deck unless you're a good deal away from the building. It is a color, however, that stands out a little. To me, the building, is a modern interpretation of Yankee Stadium, and because of that, it will still be set apart from the Camden Yards type of ballparks.

When I flip channels on TV watching baseball, often, I can't tell one park from the other, a lot look like versions of Camden Yards, lots of angles, green seats, brick, etc...which is not a bad thing at all. But, when you see Yankee Stadium, from facade on the the outside, or the inside frieze with the blue seats, you woun't have to guess what it is...and that's the most important thing.

Other than the monuments, I do think they should have brought over other pieces of the old ballpark, I thought the foul poles would have been a nice touch. I'm not sure if they are 1923 foul poles or not (they are caked with layers of paint), if they were, then they definately should have been transplanted.

[MarcianoNY]

Very true. Personally I'm sick of angled fences. If you have unlimited space to build a park, putting in all kinds of angles and mini-green monsters is so contrived.

[jerseyyankeefan]

Very true. Personally I'm sick of angled fences. If you have unlimited space to build a park, putting in all kinds of angles and mini-green monsters is so contrived.

I think the new ballparks are terrific replacements of what these teams had perviously, but Yankee Stadium will be very different from these places, just because its Yankee Stadium, and that's cool. I think people will be floored by Citifield because it is such a hugh upgrade from Shea, and influenced by a long gone ballpark. Yankee fans will be happy too, but they are getting a much improved facility, and modern version of what they have now. This seems to be a tricky balance...and not everybody will be happy, so far, looks pretty good to me. Ticket prices are another story, but this thread is about construction, right?

[Kentucky Bomber]

I was talking about it from the ground level. I posted this picture, and the facade just kind of looks incomplete to me:

I have some basic agreements about the upper facing: it stands out too much and does look "incomplete". But I think the problem is one of color; why they chose a pretty brilliant white for the paint is beyond me. I've been thnking all along that it was primer and the "real" color would show up any day now. It still might. But paint is relatively cheap, and if they have to lay on a new coat in a year or two to soften it they could get it done.

But another point already made is well taken: we're all looking at aerial shots and far distant shots which are more architectural in nature. I don't think to many of us will be 'coptering over the building in the future, nor standing in the middle of the future Little League diamonds to view the Stadium. The view of 99% of the visitors to the NYS will be that of walking up at ground level and being presented with the limestone shell, with the upper facing not as prominent. Those actually sitting with the "women and plebians", like me :waving, will be the only ones to get the full force of the exposed iron work when getting to their seats and buying their non-plebian priced concessions.

And on the topic of views, is this the view of CitiField we can expect regularly? No. On a utilitarian level, the experience of the ballpark is the experience of the average patron, not somebody climbing all over the neighborhood to show something ugly about it.

[Urbanshocker13]

That's one thing I am going to happy too see is new concoures, I will miss seeing the old ramps that have been there since the 20's but not having those crapped concoures will be a huge improvement, the "concourse" in the Bleechers no matter what there going to look like will be a huge improvement they are just horrible now!

[ben10027]

more piks???

[Brackish__4]

I guess the lack of an overhanging upper deck in NYS is a throw-back to the old days. :rofl:

Colosseum in Rome:


Hi everyone! First-time poster, long-time lurker.

I love this site, it is a real time-waster at work! I also love the sense of humor found on this site; comparing the NYS to the Colosseum is classic!!

[ben10027]

Hi everyone! First-time poster, long-time lurker.

I love this site, it is a real time-waster at work! I also love the sense of humor found on this site; comparing the NYS to the Colosseum is classic!!

great to hear from you. hope you have a good time here!

[YanksRule]

Hi everyone! First-time poster, long-time lurker.

I love this site, it is a real time-waster at work! I also love the sense of humor found on this site; comparing the NYS to the Colosseum is classic!!

Actually.... the colosseum is more technologically ahead in one point.... it had a (manual) retractable roof called the Velarium... on bright sunny hot days the stands were covered leaving a hole in the middle for the field to be bright. That would be sweet if that could be added to Yankee Stadium =)

[Chevy114]

Actually.... the colosseum is more technologically ahead in one point.... it had a (manual) retractable roof called the Velarium... on bright sunny hot days the stands were covered leaving a hole in the middle for the field to be bright. That would be sweet if that could be added to Yankee Stadium =)





My friend in college would love to spit this out when were drunk talking about sports. If anyone said the astrodome was the first dome, he would say it was the first dome, but not the first covered outdoor stadium, and tell us the colesseum was. Finally good to see a pic of it!

[Cubbyfanjohn]

Wow...That is unbelivable...Is this going to be the house that A-Rod built? ^^

[SparkyL]

ITA that the outer layer above the main facade should be wrapped somehow. It looks unfinished, half-assed and very conflicting if you will. You have a handsome limestone collonade, then above you have the inner workings of the frame, the bones of the upper deck, painted in white of all things.

At least hit it with a shade of dark grey to black so as not to stand out so much.

Like this? :

[80SHOCK]

Like this? : That looks much better then the current design they are going with.

[YanksRule]

There's a new article about the stadium on Yankees.com...

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080504&content_id=2639940&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy

[Aviator_Frank]

Like this? :

You betcha. Or even cover it completely a la the 1923 design.

[Urbanshocker13]

My friend in college would love to spit this out when were drunk talking about sports. If anyone said the astrodome was the first dome, he would say it was the first dome, but not the first covered outdoor stadium, and tell us the colesseum was. Finally good to see a pic of it!

The Colesseum was also designed so that crowds would be able to flow easly when going in and comeing out. It also had enough bathrooms on each floors for the number of people in the Colesseum, and had great sightlines from every point in the place, from the bottom to the top! Amazingly ahead of it's time it has only been equaled by stadiums build today by the help of computers!! The Romans where amazing at building design!

[six4three]

Yeah, but have you ever been inside? No cupholders!

[GordonGecko]

Yeah, but have you ever been inside? No cupholders!

That's what the slaves were for

[six4three]

The slaves would take up all the legroom (which, let's face it, isn't exactly generous enough to begin with).

[Urbanshocker13]

They did have vendors though, Like the hotdog guy or beer guy but with that weird crap romans use to eat back ten like door mice.

[YanksRule]

The funny part is this conversation is almost relevant since Yankee Stadium was modelled after ancient Greek architecture.. they wanted to call the place a Stadium, but that was only used in ancient Greece at that time, so they added a frieze and a running track (the first warning track) like all Greek stadia had. So Rome, Greece... same time period (I think?).. almost relevant =)

[MarcianoNY]

Exactly. I was only half-joking when I compared Yankee Stadium to the Colosseum. I mean think about it: the Colosseum was the first "multi-use" facility: they could go from gladiator fights to sea battles overnight. Just like Yankee Stadium was about 50 years ahead of its time in being explicitly designed for football and track as well as baseball.

[Urbanshocker13]

Well it's fitting, I haven't seen it in person but from the photos the New Stadium seems to have the huge intemidating feel, simular to the Colesseum I have heard to have. You also get that feeling when you walk into Yankee stadium for the first time.

[Brackish__4]

As much as I will miss the old stadium, I like the idea of being around for the beginning of the New Yankee Stadium. It will definitely be the best of the new parks, just as the old stadium was the best of the old parks.

[Kentucky Bomber]

Well it's fitting, I haven't seen it in person but from the photos the New Stadium seems to have the huge intemidating feel, simular to the Colesseum I have heard to have. You also get that feeling when you walk into Yankee stadium for the first time.

What is missing is that the Coloseum was named (after the fact) by its association with the colossal statue of the Emperor Nero that stood outside its gates. So a concommitant statue of the builder needs to be erected outside the NYS gates. A 50 foot nude Steinbrenner. How does that grab ya?

[Urbanshocker13]

What is missing is that the Coloseum was named (after the fact) by its association with the colossal statue of the Emperor Nero that stood outside its gates. So a concommitant statue of the builder needs to be erected outside the NYS gates. A 50 foot nude Steinbrenner. How does that grab ya?

HaHaHa:rofl::rofl: The actual name was the Flavian Amphitheatre, it was build on the spot of Nero's huge palace to himself. I really wouldn't put it past George or his sons to do that, lets just hope the don't. I wouldn't mind a statue of Ruth in full uniform of course!!

[Gary Dunaier]

Okay, enough of this Roman Colosseum falderal, let's get back to pictures of the new Stadium. Does anyone have any?

Wait... wait... I do...

They were just uploaded to Flickr today, but according to the person who uploaded them they were taken a month and a half ago. Under one of the photos it is explained that "My Uncle works for Tishman Speyer So we got to tour the new grounds."


(Uploaded to Flickr.com by user Sunday Morning Sunrise on May 5, 2008; described as having been taken March 17, 2008. Link to original Flickr.com post: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26309775@N06/2466111885/in/set-72157604895066458/))



(Uploaded to Flickr.com by user Sunday Morning Sunrise on May 5, 2008; described as having been taken March 17, 2008. Link to original Flickr.com post: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26309775@N06/2466111599/in/set-72157604895066458/))



(Uploaded to Flickr.com by user Sunday Morning Sunrise on May 5, 2008; described as having been taken March 17, 2008. Link to original Flickr.com post: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26309775@N06/2466940140/in/set-72157604895066458/))



(Uploaded to Flickr.com by user Sunday Morning Sunrise on May 5, 2008; described as having been taken March 17, 2008. Link to original Flickr.com post: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26309775@N06/2466939818/in/set-72157604895066458/))



(Uploaded to Flickr.com by user Sunday Morning Sunrise on May 5, 2008; described as having been taken March 17, 2008. Link to original Flickr.com post: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26309775@N06/2466938514/in/set-72157604895066458/))



(Uploaded to Flickr.com by user Sunday Morning Sunrise on May 5, 2008; described as having been taken March 17, 2008. Link to original Flickr.com post: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26309775@N06/2466108725/in/set-72157604895066458/))



(Uploaded to Flickr.com by user Sunday Morning Sunrise on May 5, 2008; described as having been taken March 17, 2008. Link to original Flickr.com post: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26309775@N06/2466107675/in/set-72157604895066458/))

[Aviator_Frank]

NOW we're talkin' !

[ruthianpower328]

It all goes back to the high esteem we still have for classicalism. To me this new stadium takes elements of the old one and filters them through a neo-classical style. This may sound blasphemous to some but in some ways I think the lines and proportions are actually more balanced than the 1923 design: the taller, open windows; However, even classical architecture has ornamentation where appropriate... Ideally it doesn't dominate the building, but gives you little things to appreciate when you get up close, like the terra-cotta sculptures on the old entrances.

I absolutely love this pic. I mean, I might be the only one, but this photo really shows me the majestic facade, the frieze, and the enormous scoreboard. That scoreboard is really something. I mean I don't have a problem with the upper deck part of the Stadium. Just wait to judge it until everything is done and finished. Then maybe, with the Stadium looking crisp and clean, I have a feeling a lot of minds will change.

I mean, the field isn't in, the seats aren't in, the lighting is supposed to be state of the art, much better than the current one, and the stadium still looks unfinished.

Also, another question, the flags that are gonna be on top of each flag pole on the frieze, are those gonna be flags of all the pennants we've won? WWhat flags are they putting?

[80SHOCK]

I absolutely love this pic. I mean, I might be the only one, but this photo really shows me the majestic facade, the frieze, and the enormous scoreboard. That scoreboard is really something. I mean I don't have a problem with the upper deck part of the Stadium. Just wait to judge it until everything is done and finished. Then maybe, with the Stadium looking crisp and clean, I have a feeling a lot of minds will change.

I mean, the field isn't in, the seats aren't in, the lighting is supposed to be state of the art, much better than the current one, and the stadium still looks unfinished.

Also, another question, the flags that are gonna be on top of each flag pole on the frieze, are those gonna be flags of all the pennants we've won? WWhat flags are they putting?

I was wondering the same thing.
Flags of the AL teams and NL teams, American flags or pennant/ws flags?

[DisabledMess]

Awesome pictures. I love how clear they are.

[Brackish__4]

I was wondering the same thing.
Flags of the AL teams and NL teams, American flags or pennant/ws flags?

They will probably be the flags of all the American league teams, with American flags taking up all the extra poles. I am sure on special days (Opening Day, Old Timer's Day, etc) they will all be American flags, like they did in the old stadium.

[Mattingly85MVP]

They will probably be the flags of all the American league teams, with American flags taking up all the extra poles. I am sure on special days (Opening Day, Old Timer's Day, etc) they will all be American flags, like they did in the old stadium.

According to Tony Morante (Head Tour Guide of YS) the Yankees are refurbishing the old world series/American League pennants that used to hang on the frieze in the original stadium for special dates like opening day, old timer's day, and post season like so...which i think would be a nice touch

[80SHOCK]

They will probably be the flags of all the American league teams, with American flags taking up all the extra poles. I am sure on special days (Opening Day, Old Timer's Day, etc) they will all be American flags, like they did in the old stadium.

Good point! Every other pole will probably be an American flag.
Oakland,American flag,Seattle,American flag,Texas,American flag,Chicago,American flag...............

[florida_yankee_fan]

According to Tony Morante (Head Tour Guide of YS) the Yankees are refurbishing the old world series/American League pennants that used to hang on the frieze in the original stadium for special dates like opening day, old timer's day, and post season like so...which i think would be a nice touch
Really? I didn't know that!That sounds like a great idea!:think:

[baseballman1243]

New bleacher entrance area:

[Urbanshocker13]

According to Tony Morante (Head Tour Guide of YS) the Yankees are refurbishing the old world series/American League pennants that used to hang on the frieze in the original stadium for special dates like opening day, old timer's day, and post season like so...which i think would be a nice touch

I always woundered what happened to those, I wounder when they will bring them out again.

[YanksRule]

New bleacher entrance area:




That's not the bleacher entrance.. the bleachers are connected to the rest of the stadium and so people will enter the same place as everyone else now. Those doors there are probably for stadium workers, not gates.

[yankees82]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU-w9KvZUcw

[Kentucky Bomber]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU-w9KvZUcw

Wish he spent more time showing the Stadium and less time showing Drew and Sandra.:shrug:

[Kentucky Bomber]

According to Tony Morante (Head Tour Guide of YS) the Yankees are refurbishing the old world series/American League pennants that used to hang on the frieze in the original stadium for special dates like opening day, old timer's day, and post season like so...which i think would be a nice touch

By the end of the pre-refurbishment era the pennants were only hung on Old-Timers' Day although my Dad told me they were hauled out for the World Series in previous years. I didn't see them out in the 1960's World Series games I attended. We'll see what tradition is revived.

[NYBase]

A little of community news regarding the stadium....

(no pictures tho :sigh:)

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/bronx/2008/05/06/2008-05-06_little_league_reaps_a_windfall_from_new_.html

[MarcianoNY]

Wish he spent more time showing the Stadium and less time showing Drew and Sandra.:shrug:

Still, you get a much better sense of what it will actually look and feel like than from the wide-angle pictures we always see to show the interior. The seats look really good up close too - it was hard to tell if they were gonna be more of a grayish blue like the ones in Nationals Park, but they look more "yankee blue" up close.

[SparkyL]

I have made an attempt to map the resturants that are listed on yankees.com to the resturants in the blueprints. Anyone have better info?


These will only be available to ticket holders in the respective seating areas:
- Legends Club / 2 Legends Dugout Lounges
- Main Level Outdoor Suite Lounge
- Terrace Outdoor Suite Lounge

This may be available to season and partial season ticket holders. My guess is this is the resturant on the Suite level in left field, however there is also a large resturant on the Field Concourse just to the left of Gate 4
- Membership Club

These appear to be open to the general public and are located on two levels to the right of Gate 6 on the RF side:
- Grill Room
- Yankees Steakhouse

This is at the home plate end of the Great Hall, on top of the ticket booths. It is unclear if this will be a members-only but I recall that being said.
-Martini Bar

Other Clubs
- Sports Bar
This maybe the resturant on the Suite level or the Batter's Eye resturant

- Outdoor Patio Area
This maybe behind the Bleacher seating area, under the scoreboard

The following could be the food courts for the Terrace Level (on top of Gate 4) and the food court on top of the Batter's Eye resturant.
- Outdoor Food Court
- Indoor Food Court

[meatsocket]

:hyper:
According to Tony Morante (Head Tour Guide of YS) the Yankees are refurbishing the old world series/American League pennants that used to hang on the frieze in the original stadium for special dates like opening day, old timer's day, and post season like so...which i think would be a nice touch

Who cares the place still looks like a dump...the new Yankee stadium is way to modern looking....No mystique like Fenway Park or Wrigley...Bye Bye Yankee Stadium....:hyper:

[MarcianoNY]

:hyper:

Who cares the place still looks like a dump...the new Yankee stadium is way to modern looking....No mystique like Fenway Park or Wrigley...Bye Bye Yankee Stadium....:hyper:

Mystique my ass... If you call being attacked by wild animals or having crumbling concrete fall on you "mystique," have fun with that.

[baseballman1243]

That's not the bleacher entrance.. the bleachers are connected to the rest of the stadium and so people will enter the same place as everyone else now. Those doors there are probably for stadium workers, not gates.
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Those main gates are not the only entrances to the stadium, so that is probably another entrance.

[donut726]

they should've extended the subway platform and make it connect directly with the concourse above the bleachers and make another entrance off of that. the only problem is that the area will probably get too crowded.

[Brackish__4]

[MarcianoNY]

If this has been discussed before, my apologies, but does anyone know whether the new stadium's address will still be considered E. 161st And River Ave?

[Gary Dunaier]

If this has been discussed before, my apologies, but does anyone know whether the new stadium's address will still be considered E. 161st And River Ave?

I'm guessing the answer will be yes. It'll still be at the same intersection, and it'll save everyone the hassle and expense of changing stationery, databases, &c.

As far as I know, the Yankees have never had an "official" street address - it's either been 161st Street and River Avenue or just "Yankee Stadium, Bronx, NY."

Hopefully, we'll find out soon - I sent an e-mail to the Yankees asking these questions.

(FWIW, I recently e-mailed the Mets to ask if they knew what Citi Field's official address would be; they responded "we have not been informed what our street address will be for Citi Field."

[reh303]

(FWIW, I recently e-mailed the Mets to ask if they knew what Citi Field's official address would be; they responded "we have not been informed what our street address will be for Citi Field."

I guess that's officially the jurisdiction of the USPS, but you'd think they might have some say over it.

[NYY - upstatefan]

I came across this picture from 1974. I loved the old original stadium but I'll always remember the vertical support beams (where I always seemed to get my seats behind) and the small seats themselves (it was amazing how small they were). The renovation eliminated 118 of those steel support columns and the seating capacity was reduced (65,010 to 57,545) because of the bigger much more comfortable seats. This was despite the fact that they added 10 rows of seats to the upper deck. They also lowered the playing field 7 feet. They did an amazing job. The stadium looked and felt new (and clean!). The look (the color!) of the new place was amazing. We now had this big new score board that showed instant replays. Former center field bleacher seats were blackened providing a great backdrop for hitters. Monument Park was created. We now had escalators and a new 2300 car parking garage. The old stadium was great but it desperately did need a facelift. They did a great job. It was hard to believe you were sitting in the same spot. But that was over 30 years ago and it's time for a new place. It is a shame they couldn't build it on the same site. And it's a shame, they can't slide the new one over to the old site when they're done (as I previously suggested). But the new stadium is a Beast!! I can't wait.

[yankees82]

nice one. best pic of the renovation i've seen so far.

[YankeeFanBx]

During this lull in new stadium pics, I have to admit I never thought I'd see a new YS. I honestly thought it be stay for another 10-15 years.:faint:

[stlfan]

NYY, awesome pic. It really demonstrates the method they used to support the upper 2 decks. It's hard to envision it now since the sides are covered. But here we get a great cross-section view of the grandstand, with the old upper concourse. I would say this is hands down the best renovation pic of Yankee Stadium I have seen. I still find it strange that there still aren't as many renovation pics out there as I figured there would be.

[80SHOCK]

I guess the pics of the new YS will be limited because there isn't much outside work as of now?
Most of the work like electrical stuff and water lines in bathrooms and restaurants will be happening. Until seats and the scoreboard is installed no pics?

[GordonGecko]

I guess the pics of the new YS will be limited because there isn't much outside work as of now?
Most of the work like electrical stuff and water lines in bathrooms and restaurants will be happening. Until seats and the scoreboard is installed no pics?

We need pics from people on the inside, like contractors, people with connections on a tour, etc... They come out every once in a while but not always here. That's why I scan flickr and other sites to find those latest shots.

[Lions/Tigers@Cubs.OhMy!]

During this lull in new stadium pics, I have to admit I never thought I'd see a new YS. I honestly thought it be stay for another 10-15 years.:faint:

You weren't planning on living another 10-15 years?

[Sean Ryan]

http://flickr.com/photos/26271569@N02/

[Kentucky Bomber]

Nice shots, Sean. once again we see the remarkable nature of the limestone shell to take on various colors depending on the time of day, weather, angle of view. Its tan, reddish, milky white, gray.

You seem to be in the middle of a gameday crowd. What was the general reaction to the viewers?

[Brackish__4]

What was the general reaction to the viewers?

I've been to about 4 games thus far, and there are always a ton of people standing in the middle of the sidewalk, staring at the new stadium, taking pictures and commenting how big it is. I also hear a lot of people saying things about the new stadium who have no idea what they are talking about, and I always say to myself, "well I guess you've never been to baseball-fever before." :rofl:

[GordonGecko]

I've been to about 4 games thus far, and there are always a ton of people standing in the middle of the sidewalk, staring at the new stadium, taking pictures and commenting how big it is. I also hear a lot of people saying things about the new stadium who have no idea what they are talking about, and I always say to myself, "well I guess you've never been to baseball-fever before." :rofl:

You should hand out little business cards next time advertising the site :)

[jerseyyankeefan]

Nice shots, Sean. once again we see the remarkable nature of the limestone shell to take on various colors depending on the time of day, weather, angle of view. Its tan, reddish, milky white, gray.

You seem to be in the middle of a gameday crowd. What was the general reaction to the viewers?

I've been there and there are people on gameday taking a look and walking around and taking pictures, but not as many as you might expect. I walked around the entire place and really didn't see anybody doing the same. It's so close to the street and it looks so much like the old Stadium, that it's almost as if it was always there. Plus because of the fence, the closer you get, the less you see.

[alpineinc]

The renovation eliminated 118 of those steel support columns and the seating capacity was reduced (65,010 to 57,545) because of the bigger much more comfortable seats. This was despite the fact that they added 10 rows of seats to the upper deck. They also lowered the playing field 7 feet. They did an amazing job.

Some folks may beg to differ: http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=58009

Also, your great photo should go there as well.

[YankeeFanBx]

You weren't planning on living another 10-15 years?
Nothings promised, I am over 57 yrs. old.:pray:

[Yoda]

You weren't planning on living another 10-15 years?

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[BlueCrew08]

had a piece on Countdown this evening on the progress of the stadium. He was given a tour and brought a camera with him. However I really didn't see anything new compared to what has been posted on this thread already which is a testament to the great shots members of this community have been taking.

If I remember correctly, Olbermann focused on about four areas of the stadium, the field level view, the Boss' suite which has a great view of the Yankee dugout, the Press Room, and the area where the Ortiz jersey was buried.

[ben10027]

When will they put up the big "Yankee Stadium" sine?

[YankeeFanBx]

:rofl::rofl::rofl:
Wasn't that funny :yawn:
Nice new shots, thanks!

[Aviator_Frank]

When will they put up the big "Yankee Stadium" sine?

Let's not go off on a tangent here :rofl:

[schnu]

Keith Olbermann took a tour of the Stadium & did a piece last night. To say he was impressed is a little bit of an understatement.

I tried to embed the video but it didn't work - here's the link

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24511470#24511470

[Brackish__4]

Keith Olbermann took a tour of the Stadium & did a piece last night. To say he was impressed is a little bit of an understatement.

I tried to embed the video but it didn't work - here's the link

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24511470#24511470

That was funny! I enjoy his dry humor. Anyway, the NYS is going to be impressive. But why did he say it was going to cost $1,000,300,000? I thought it was going to cost $1,300,000,000. Also, I hope they keep the area under the scoreboard undeveloped so we can see the train pass by from inside the stadium!

[GordonGecko]

Keith Olbermann took a tour of the Stadium & did a piece last night. To say he was impressed is a little bit of an understatement.

I tried to embed the video but it didn't work - here's the link

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24511470#24511470

Great find! At last I walked into the new Yankee stadium (virtually)

And wow, that spot where the Ortiz jersey was is trully a needle in a haystack. Someone must have SEEN the guy put in the jersey and not said anything until the media bomb blew up

[six4three]

And wow, that spot where the Ortiz jersey was is trully a needle in a haystack. Someone must have SEEN the guy put in the jersey and not said anything until the media bomb blew up

Actually, I've read that he was bragging to friends and somebody blew the whistle.

If he could have kept his big mouth shut, he would have gotten away with it.

[GordonGecko]

Actually, I've read that he was bragging to friends and somebody blew the whistle.

If he could have kept his big mouth shut, he would have gotten away with it.

He did brag, and not only that, he took cellphone pictures of the jersey before and after. But there's no markings on those pictures, and after the pictures came out other contractors came forward and told the Yankees where the guy had been working.

BUT, if you look at that video, the spot dug up was just a tiny hole in this HUGE freggin hallway, how could they have found it that precisely?? There's something really fishy about all this

[six4three]

I watched the video. Don't think it would be too difficult to find.

I've worked in buildings under construction, and they seem to pour concrete floors in sections. If he took photographs of it, you can backdate and find the section they poured that day.

Then again, he was probably well aware of where he put it (what's the point in doing it if you can't point to the spot), and since he may have to pay for the excavation he's highly motivated to make it as quick as possible. :D

[Shadly]

A little morning zen:

In 80 years when they are building a new stadium over the sight of the original, what if everyone will be bitching about how the new design doesn't capture the stern form and space age lines of the 70's stadium? They'll claim that a "cheap imitation" of form equals function architecture is being implemented, with to much attention being squandered on detail, and not enough effort to recapture the daunting facade of the classic structure. Maybe they'll even claim the new frieze is too gaudy and ornate, "why would they go with copper, with a verdigris finish anyway?"

[Chevy114]

Im still waiting to see what could they change in 30 years to improve stadiums, I mean big improvements. Like when they got rid of support beams blocking views, when they added jumbotrons, they put in luxuary boxes, when they made sure you had good site lines and every seat faced home. Whats next? Will it just be exterior changes or can they actually do more?

[GordonGecko]

I watched the video. Don't think it would be too difficult to find.

I've worked in buildings under construction, and they seem to pour concrete floors in sections. If he took photographs of it, you can backdate and find the section they poured that day.

Then again, he was probably well aware of where he put it (what's the point in doing it if you can't point to the spot), and since he may have to pay for the excavation he's highly motivated to make it as quick as possible. :D


On that video you can see they jack hammered exactly in the little spot where the jersey was.

Yet, Benadict Arnold's pictures show no signs of where in the stadium it could be:

[six4three]

True, but how large a section of the floor were they pouring on the date those were taken?

And don't you think that he knew exactly where it was buried, so he could point to it in his head and laugh at Yankee fans for decades to come?

[Kentucky Bomber]

True, but how large a section of the floor were they pouring on the date those were taken?

And don't you think that he knew exactly where it was buried, so he could point to it in his head and laugh at Yankee fans for decades to come?

Also, this bozo was, from what I've read, a single day laborer who came on the job and left. So he had to be assigned a very specific task, and since it was against a wall it probably wasn't too hard to figure.

As to what the stadium of the future would look like, you can get a preview at the site devoted to the one the A's are planning. While the Yankees are building a luxury hotel with a ballfield in the middle, the A's and Cisco Systems are building a computer client/server with a ballfield in the middle. From the looks of it you will be surrounded by technology from the time you walk up to the self-serve ticket kisok to the information stations all over the walkways to the screens and hookup ports at your seat. A technological wonderland.

And the difference between New York and Silicon Valley.

[GordonGecko]

the Yankees are building a luxury hotel with a ballfield in the middle

It's more of a convention center / lounge complex with a ball field in the middle

[80SHOCK]

Also, this bozo was, from what I've read, a single day laborer who came on the job and left. So he had to be assigned a very specific task, and since it was against a wall it probably wasn't too hard to figure.

As to what the stadium of the future would look like, you can get a preview at the site devoted to the one the A's are planning. While the Yankees are building a luxury hotel with a ballfield in the middle, the A's and Cisco Systems are building a computer client/server with a ballfield in the middle. From the looks of it you will be surrounded by technology from the time you walk up to the self-serve ticket kisok to the information stations all over the walkways to the screens and hookup ports at your seat. A technological wonderland.

And the difference between New York and Silicon Valley.

I've seen the A's proposed new park. I actually like it.
Does look a bit too much at least the back drop/surrounding area looks too much like Camden Yards and a little Wrigley mixed in.

[Shadly]

Who the hell checks their myspace page at a ball game? What the hell is wrong with Californians?

[schnu]

That was funny! I enjoy his dry humor. Anyway, the NYS is going to be impressive. But why did he say it was going to cost $1,000,300,000? I thought it was going to cost $1,300,000,000. Also, I hope they keep the area under the scoreboard undeveloped so we can see the train pass by from inside the stadium!


It appeared to be a slip up. It is $1.3B.

[MarcianoNY]

While the Yankees are building a luxury hotel with a ballfield in the middle, the A's and Cisco Systems are building a computer client/server with a ballfield in the middle. From the looks of it you will be surrounded by technology from the time you walk up to the self-serve ticket kisok to the information stations all over the walkways to the screens and hookup ports at your seat. A technological wonderland.

And the difference between New York and Silicon Valley.

They can keep that crap. Something like 60% of the seats in NYS are still going to be under $45, so not all Yankee fans are gonna be Donald Trumps. And seriously, what does the fact that they are putting internet connections in every seat say about the attention spans of people today? Just watch the game on TV if you're gonna act like a jackass with your laptop and blackberry out the whole game.

[NYBase]

Since I had the time... for shits and giggles I grabbed some stills.... :coffee

[NYBase]

Parte dos...

[80SHOCK]

Since I had the time... for shits and giggles I grabbed some stills.... :coffee

I wonder will the advertisements extend all the way to the bottom in the back? I would leave an opening at the bottom so the train passing by could be seen.

The last picture is what I'm talking about. with the crane in it.

[NYBase]

I wonder will the advertisements extend all the way to the bottom in the back? I would leave an opening at the bottom so the train passing by could be seen.

The last picture is what I'm talking about. with the crane in it.

They're leaving a little peak-thru open. It was in the animated rendering.

[Jim Vaz]

Why a I the only one who thinks that whole thing was one big publicity stunt by either the Yankees or people close to them? it was so silly.

And who's to say that this guy didn't throw everyone off and bury another one somewhere deep in the concrete of the NYS somewhere else?

Silly!:rofl:

[80SHOCK]

What would be pretty weird because you don't see it a lot or at all is navy blue or pretty close to it matting.
How many teams if at all have extremely dark blue matting?
If I'm not mistaken it's either green or a medium blue like the Yankee currently have.

I still rather have limestone at the back stop. Maybe they'll change their minds.

[h-man]

a limstone backstop with the eagles on both sides of the advertisments

[six4three]

a limstone backstop with the eagles on both sides of the advertisments

Not bad. Don't know how the Eagles'll look so close up, but limestone is a must.

[MarcianoNY]

a limstone backstop with the eagles on both sides of the advertisments

I don't know, I think that backstop in Nationals Park looks cheesy. When I first saw it I couldn't tell if it was fake laminate or actual limestone. I thought, "why the heck would they put rock there?" Whenever you watch a Yankee game on TV, the blue walls make it instantly recognizable as Yankee Stadium.

[GordonGecko]

I don't know, I think that backstop in Nationals Park looks cheesy. When I first saw it I couldn't tell if it was fake laminate or actual limestone. I thought, "why the heck would they put rock there?" Whenever you watch a Yankee game on TV, the blue walls make it instantly recognizable as Yankee Stadium.

Yeah the limestone would look really weird. I think if you're going to go with a stone backstop it has to be brick, and there's no way that fits in with the new stadium design.

[80SHOCK]

Pirates have limestone backstop and it doesn't look weird.

[Lafferty Daniel]

Im still waiting to see what could they change in 30 years to improve stadiums, I mean big improvements. Like when they got rid of support beams blocking views, when they added jumbotrons, they put in luxuary boxes, when they made sure you had good site lines and every seat faced home. Whats next? Will it just be exterior changes or can they actually do more?

Improvements could be made with cantilevered decks. It's messed up that Washington went from one of the most aggressive cantilevered deck layouts at RFK to one of the worst.

pics courtesy of nymdan, ballparktour, and digitalballparks.

[YanksRule]

Im still waiting to see what could they change in 30 years to improve stadiums, I mean big improvements. Like when they got rid of support beams blocking views, when they added jumbotrons, they put in luxuary boxes, when they made sure you had good site lines and every seat faced home. Whats next? Will it just be exterior changes or can they actually do more?

Stadiums will be more wired with the internet, like what the A's are doing and what Safeco Field already has with the Nintendo DS (sorry for the large sized photos.. these pictures are linked from http://www.dsfanboy.com/photos/nintendo-fan-network/320507/ and I couldn't choose a smaller size):





http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/23/nintendos-ds-accessible-fan-network-now-free-at-safeco-field/

http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/09/nintendos-ds-lite-orders-food-shows-replays-at-safeco-field/

This isn't extremely big yet, but has the potential to be..

[six4three]

Pirates have limestone backstop and it doesn't look weird.

No, it doesn't.

It looks beautiful.

[MarcianoNY]

[QUOTE=Lafferty Daniel;1184629]Improvements could be made with cantilevered decks. It's messed up that Washington went from one of the most aggressive cantilevered deck layouts at RFK to one of the worst.

pics courtesy of nymdan, ballparktour, and digitalballparks.

Is that because of the split-level upper deck? I mean structurally they are basically separate entities, right? If I'm wrong someone correct me.

[Brackish__4]

Unfortunately, architects these days think a no over-hang upper deck is the better way to go, which baffles me. Also unfortunate is that NYS will be the same as Nationals Park, with the upper deck almost 80 feet farther back than what we currently have. :rant:

[MarcianoNY]

Unfortunately, architects these days think a no over-hang upper deck is the better way to go, which baffles me. Also unfortunate is that NYS will be the same as Nationals Park, with the upper deck almost 80 feet farther back than what we currently have. :rant:

Yeah, I had that same issue at first but if you think about it, it makes sense. From what I've heard, there will be many more field-level seats in the new stadium. The bleacher and outfield field boxes will be MUCH closer to the field. Those front rows of the upper deck in the current stadium are somewhat overrated anyways - between the blind spot and the railing, you can't see half the field! Yes there are tradeoffs, but overall our capacity for structural engineering has advanced greatly over the last 80 years... I'm confident that the designers knew what they were doing and that the upper deck seats will be good.

[NYBase]

Yeah, I had that same issue at first but if you think about it, it makes sense. From what I've heard, there will be many more field-level seats in the new stadium. The bleacher and outfield field boxes will be MUCH closer to the field. Those front rows of the upper deck in the current stadium are somewhat overrated anyways - between the blind spot and the railing, you can't see half the field! Yes there are tradeoffs, but overall our capacity for structural engineering has advanced greatly over the last 80 years... I'm confident that the designers knew what they were doing and that the upper deck seats will be good.

I'm with you... i have a season plan row B of the upper deck. I can't see third base without slightly standing up and have to move my neck down to see home plate.... right field.... i dont see a thing!

The cheaper seats in the back of the tier give u a better view than mine :(

[Yoda]

Stadiums will be more wired with the internet, like what the A's are doing and what Safeco Field already has with the Nintendo DS (sorry for the large sized photos.. these pictures are linked from http://www.dsfanboy.com/photos/nintendo-fan-network/320507/ and I couldn't choose a smaller size):





http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/23/nintendos-ds-accessible-fan-network-now-free-at-safeco-field/

http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/09/nintendos-ds-lite-orders-food-shows-replays-at-safeco-field/

This isn't extremely big yet, but has the potential to be..



That's awesome! I have a DS and never play it. I'd totally bring it to the park to check ****.


Though if I wanted food I'd just get off my ass and go get it.

[alpineinc]

That's awesome! I have a DS and never play it. I'd totally bring it to the park to check ****.


Though if I wanted food I'd just get off my ass and go get it.

Are you kidding? Half the time I get off my ass to get something at the park I miss an inning or more.

If they want to bring it to me, I'm good.