MLB is stupid!!!

[nikihoi]

Why do I say this you ask? Cause, howmany times do we see a homerun not be called in critical moments!!!

This is BS and that is mildly putting it!!! I don't even recall the umpires getting together to at least discuss it. MLB NEEDS to put something in place to keep stuff like this happening. I mean come... even the Nationals anouncers were like, "look, there's a mark on the poll where the ball might of hit". Even freakin tennis now has a replay rule, tennis people!!! You know, they are always trying to spead the game up, but I think first and foremost would be to get the game right! I swear, if this caused us the playoffs, I might just have to boycott baseball!!!

Well, here is another rant by me... would love to hear what everybody else has to say!!!

Later!!!

[Captain Cold Nose]

Why do I say this you ask? Cause, howmany times do we see a homerun not be called in critical moments!!!

This is BS and that is mildly putting it!!! I don't even recall the umpires getting together to at least discuss it. MLB NEEDS to put something in place to keep stuff like this happening. I mean come... even the Nationals anouncers were like, "look, there's a mark on the poll where the ball might of hit". Even freakin tennis now has a replay rule, tennis people!!! You know, they are always trying to spead the game up, but I think first and foremost would be to get the game right! I swear, if this caused us the playoffs, I might just have to boycott baseball!!!

Well, here is another rant by me... would love to hear what everybody else has to say!!!

Later!!!
So you're calling for instant replay?

[W_Marone]

Dude, nobody saw the homerun go fair...Charlie Manuel didnt see it go fair, Chase Utley didnt see the ball go fair, the first base coach didnt see the ball go fair. No one on the field thought it was a homerun, not even Harry Kahlis thought it was a homerun. No one could really see it. I'm not gonna sit here and say that cost the Phillies the game either, when you strand that many runners on base you dont deserve to win.

[KCGHOST]

You might want to forward your rant to MLB. They will be looking for a commissioner in a few years and I am sure they will want to know that you with your keen intellect will be available,

[vptpt]

No no no

No instant replay

No

[EvanAparra]

I hate instant replay in football, and i'd hate it in Baseball. :( :( :(

[Ubiquitous]

instant replay in football is a necessary evil. Just too many bodies moving too fast in many different areas for a small group of men to officiate accurately at a hign rate of success. So they need it, but baseball? For the most part they don't need it. You got 4 bases and each is covered by an umpire, you got two foul lines and you got umps sitting right there on the line so again they are not really needed. What is left is basically the wall and the outfield. They put men out there for the playoffs and I guess they could put more out there during the regular season but I think they don't need to. The umps are accurate enough consistently enough to not need instant replay.

[W_Marone]

put this in current events since it pertains to replay as a whole, I could see if it were about how the Phillies got stiffed on it. Current events, please.

[W_Marone]

You might want to forward your rant to MLB. They will be looking for a commissioner in a few years and I am sure they will want to know that you with your keen intellect will be available,


And I'm the one who gets PM's about personal attacks, cmon man, no need to mock someone, I remember one post of yours which was complete ridiculous. We've all had them, no big deal man, lay off him.

[Dodgerfan1]

I hate instant replay in football, and i'd hate it in Baseball. :( :( :(

I think for the most part, the umpires do a damn good job. They'll miss one now and again, but they get far more right than they do wrong and apart from the extremely rare Don Denkinger type moment, they never decide an entire game with a bad call.

The only real beef I have about umpires would be the strike zone. Where the hell is it? I know, I know... every home plate ump has his own strike zone. I think that's a crock of crap, but it seems to be accepted. I just hate seeing a batter take a pitch that's obviously out of the strike zone and it's called a strike, or vice versa. It's just about the only real way an umpire influences the outcome of a ball game, day in and day out, as it either gives the hitter a distinct advantage or the pitcher during the count, and if it occurs in a critical situation, it can change the batter's (or pitcher's) entire approach to the AB, which can subsequently affect the outcome of the game.

No, I don't want replay for balls and strikes either, that's just a pet peeve of mine regarding certain umps, but I can live with it. I really have no choice. :D

[flea45]

i think baseball is a game based on human decision, and, therefore human error. everyone who has ever played a game of baseball has seen a call they feel is wrong first hand, but this is largely due to bias etc. Its just a part of sports to disagree with umpires. usually, in hindsight, when your emotions have slowed/calmed down, you realize the ump was probably right.

instant replay in baseball would ruin the integrity of the game IMO

[LP fan]

the human factor is what makes it interesting....if you want every call right, why not just go to an electronic strike zone? maybe this will be the future, but then its gonna just get sterile..

[Ubiquitous]

For me the strike zone would be one place that I think should be controlled by electronic devices. It is the one area that baseball officiating is not consistent at, nor will it ever get better. It is too difficult of a task for a human being to do reliably. Let a computer make the call, that way the HP Ump can focusing on make the calls on other plays.

[LP fan]

but...what about the great out calls...theres nothing like the ump ringin' em up with a mighty yerrrrrrrr outtta there!!!

[Captain Cold Nose]

put this in current events since it pertains to replay as a whole, I could see if it were about how the Phillies got stiffed on it. Current events, please.
That is a good idea. However, since the particulars aren't broken down about the call-in question, perhaps you or even the thread starter could mention what happened. As a reason for whay there should be instant replay, not saying you yourself are advocating it.

[bluezebra]

Why do I say this you ask? Cause, howmany times do we see a homerun not be called in critical moments!!!

This is BS and that is mildly putting it!!! I don't even recall the umpires getting together to at least discuss it. MLB NEEDS to put something in place to keep stuff like this happening. I mean come... even the Nationals anouncers were like, "look, there's a mark on the poll where the ball might of hit". Even freakin tennis now has a replay rule, tennis people!!! You know, they are always trying to spead the game up, but I think first and foremost would be to get the game right! I swear, if this caused us the playoffs, I might just have to boycott baseball!!!

Well, here is another rant by me... would love to hear what everybody else has to say!!!

Later!!!

...first and foremost... Learn how to spell.

..."look, there's a mark on the poll where the ball might of hit". MIGHT have hit! The mark could have been there for years.

I swear, if this caused us the playoffs, I might just have to boycott baseball!!! That'll teach them. MLB will go bankrupt.

By the way, how much money did you lose on the game? One play doesn't cost a game. One game doesn't cost a season.

Bob

[bluezebra]

For me the strike zone would be one place that I think should be controlled by electronic devices. It is the one area that baseball officiating is not consistent at, nor will it ever get better. It is too difficult of a task for a human being to do reliably. Let a computer make the call, that way the HP Ump can focusing on make the calls on other plays.

And how do you propose to do this? Are there three-dimensional computers to cover all angles of the strike zone? Will it adjust to each batter, especially when they shift up and down, or pull out?

Why not take ALL the human element out of the games, and play them in a studio ona video game?

Bob

[SoxSon]

Why not take ALL the human element out of the games, and play them in a studio ona video game?

Bob


On this, we wholeheartedly agree.
I can't stand the idea of baseball becoming any less human. All the ideas about computerizing this or digitizing that...I'm against nearly all of them. You're right, ultimately, why not just play a video game?

Human error is part of a human game.

[Glenn]

Why do I say this you ask? Cause, howmany times do we see a homerun not be called in critical moments!!!




What about calling a homerun when it's really not a homerun in critical moments.

Can you say JEFFERY MAIER :evil

[Williamsburg2599]

That kid has his own wikipedia page:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Maier


I'm jealious.

[SamtheBravesFan]

That kid has his own wikipedia page:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Maier


I'm jealious.

I say good for him. Being the all-time hits leader for a school is no small feat. :D

[hudsonharden]

instant replay in baseball would ruin the integrity of the game IMO

since when do facts ruin integrity?

[hudsonharden]

On this, we wholeheartedly agree.
I can't stand the idea of baseball becoming any less human. All the ideas about computerizing this or digitizing that...I'm against nearly all of them. You're right, ultimately, why not just play a video game?

Human error is part of a human game.

I agree, the game has gone too far as it is. It doesn't matter if the umpire is right or wrong, as long as he FEELS right. The right call is the one that the umpire makes. Technology is the work of the devil, and is only there to create confusion. Like everyone knows, a video camera is ALWAYS biased.

[SamtheBravesFan]

I agree, the game has gone too far as it is. It doesn't matter if the umpire is right or wrong, as long as he FEELS right. The right call is the one that the umpire makes. Technology is the work of the devil, and is only there to create confusion. Like everyone knows, a video camera is ALWAYS biased.

Well, I have two things to say to your sarcasm.

1. Umpires or referees can even blow calls WITH instant replay (Oklahoma-Oregon). Do we really want that media circus?

2. The games are too long as it is, do you really want challenges, however limited, to lengthen them?

[cardsfanatic]

Yeah... and Steve Bartman cost the Cubs the World Series. :rolleyes:

[SamtheBravesFan]

Yeah... and Steve Bartman cost the Cubs the World Series. :rolleyes:

ALEX GONZALEZ and Mark Prior's crappy pitching after the incident cost the Cubs the World Series. :evil

[cardsfanatic]

ALEX GONZALEZ and Mark Prior's crappy pitching after the incident cost the Cubs the World Series. :evil

I do so hope you caught my sarcasm. I was mocking the topic because I think it's funny when people blame one incident for their team losing a game... yet, they still got at least 27 other hacks at the ball and 9-half innings to pitch and play defense and prevent the other team from scoring. Championship teams find ways to win.

[SamtheBravesFan]

I do so hope you caught my sarcasm. I was mocking the topic because I think it's funny when people blame one incident for their team losing a game... yet, they still got at least 27 other hacks at the ball and 9-half innings to pitch and play defense and prevent the other team from scoring. Championship teams find ways to win.

Yeah, I kind of caught your sarcasm. But it didn't really register fully. I have a REALLY hard time catching sarcasm sometimes, since I prefer people telling me things straight up. :eek:

[cardsfanatic]

Well, I even threw a litle sarcasm smiley on the end there. ;)

[SamtheBravesFan]

Well, I even threw a litle sarcasm smiley on the end there. ;)

Good point. Man, I really need to learn to read things and take things less seriously sometimes. :laugh

[BigStellyPADRES4LIFE]

OK Umpires are doing a good job except with calling balls and strikes. Call the damn zone by the rule book and not your own idea of what it should be. They should be audited heavily by some comittee and if they arent calling the strikezone properly first fine them. Then fire them, its that simple.

I am actually very pleased with footballs rule.... the only thing i dont like is you cant challenge penalties. But that could have some dire consequences.
But i dont know how many times ive seen an official make a crappy call then 95 times out of 100 they turned it over.

Umpires actually do a great job, but the strike zone needs to be called the way it is in the book at all times. Not shrink when barroid comes up, not expand when maddux or glavine is pitching. If a pitch is a strike, its a strike.

[wu-tang clan]

maybe they should have an ump at each foul pole, like in a box or something.

[Stumanji]

Yeah... and Steve Bartman cost the Cubs the World Series. :rolleyes:

Talk about a guy getting a bad rap...

Bartman was one of a dozen tards reaching for that ball, and he gets blamed for the loss. Poor guy.

The only instance where I wouldn't argue the use of Instant Replay is on fair or foul homeruns in the playoffs. Strap a camera on the "fair" pole - reviews would take 30 seconds (or about as long as an umpires meeting on the field).

[redlegsfan21]

maybe they should have an ump at each foul pole, like in a box or something.
I like that idea but the prices will be jacked up 50% even though it will only cost every fan around a penny.

[Dodgerfan1]

Talk about a guy getting a bad rap...

Bartman was one of a dozen tards reaching for that ball, and he gets blamed for the loss. Poor guy.

Guess the Cub fans got tired of blaming the goat curse....

[W_Marone]

That is a good idea. However, since the particulars aren't broken down about the call-in question, perhaps you or even the thread starter could mention what happened. As a reason for whay there should be instant replay, not saying you yourself are advocating it.

Already did, check the first few posts.

[SHOELESSJOE3]

And how do you propose to do this? Are there three-dimensional computers to cover all angles of the strike zone? Will it adjust to each batter, especially when they shift up and down, or pull out?
Why not take ALL the human element out of the games, and play them in a studio ona video game?

Bob

Agreed. Although the strike and ball calls are not always consistant, I doubt MLB would even consider any electronic device to make the calls.

Never happen.

[Judway]

Dude, nobody saw the homerun go fair...Charlie Manuel didnt see it go fair, Chase Utley didnt see the ball go fair, the first base coach didnt see the ball go fair. No one on the field thought it was a homerun, not even Harry Kahlis thought it was a homerun. No one could really see it. I'm not gonna sit here and say that cost the Phillies the game either, when you strand that many runners on base you dont deserve to win.
They didn't strand that many. Chase's flyball to the foul pole knocked in three, or should have.
That is a case of the Umpire not going out far enough. The Umps have a tough job, I know I did it, but not hustling is no excuse.

[Judway]

Why do I say this you ask? Cause, howmany times do we see a homerun not be called in critical moments!!!

This is BS and that is mildly putting it!!! I don't even recall the umpires getting together to at least discuss it. MLB NEEDS to put something in place to keep stuff like this happening. I mean come... even the Nationals anouncers were like, "look, there's a mark on the poll where the ball might of hit". Even freakin tennis now has a replay rule, tennis people!!! You know, they are always trying to spead the game up, but I think first and foremost would be to get the game right! I swear, if this caused us the playoffs, I might just have to boycott baseball!!!

Well, here is another rant by me... would love to hear what everybody else has to say!!!

Later!!!
I hate instant replay. I hate instant replay. I hate instant replay.

[jarakaki14]

instant replay in baseball is a horrible idea. this was slow the game down and cause plenty more confusion.

[edsachs1]

I like the idea of instant replay. Everyone says that it slows the game down. I don't really see how it would. Don't let coaches challenge plays like in the NFL. Also don't use it for balls and strikes, only really big calls. Just stick a guy up in the press box with the replay. He could then send his decision down the the umps on the field. Just because there is instant replay in MLB doesn't mean that they have to have 2 minute reviews for plays in question. Most could probably be solved in less than a minute.

I didn't see the Phillie incident. However I did see the jeffery maier one. The Tarasco, Benitez, and Davey Johnson all argued the called. In the time they were arguing an ump in the press box could have been reviewing the play. The right call would have been made and the game wouldn't have taken any longer than it was going to anyway.

[W_Marone]

They didn't strand that many. Chase's flyball to the foul pole knocked in three, or should have.
That is a case of the Umpire not going out far enough. The Umps have a tough job, I know I did it, but not hustling is no excuse.

They stranded enough that they lost the game, a bad homerun call is no excuse, and yes i think they straneded 11 that night.