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yankillaz
09-26-2006, 02:03 PM
Now that my Jeter 4 MVP thread was closed, i would like all of you guys to know why i created it.

These are some MVP facts, that we oughta know:

1. Since the award was handed out first, back in 1911, there have been 139awarded players that have been eligible for the Hall of Fame. Of those 139, 86 have made it to Cooperstown, while 53 are looking out. That's a success rate of 62.59% for MVP winners to get to Cooperstown. (Pete Rose included)

2. 172 of them have had a career 10 years or longer, that can be considered a succesful career (Dick Allen for example; though Pujols doesn't fit the mold). Of those, 149 fit the description. That's a great success rate of 87.21%.

3. Now this is the interesting part. 170 of them have had the opportunity to get to the World Series in the same season they won the award. How have they fared? Well, only 44 of them actually won the World Series. That equals 25.88%. Now this a number i like.

What do i learn from this?


Jeter may be bound for Cooperstown anyway. CHECK.
Jeter already has a succesful career. CHECK.
I don't want the Yankees to win the World Series. TO BE SEEN


Jermaine Dye and David Ortiz are going to miss the palyoffs, so the Silver can be theirs. But Morneau, Thomas and Jeter are looking in. If the award, by probability has to go to someone, i would really like Jeter to get it. Therefore, both the Oakland A's or the Twins have a better chance of winning the World Series. ;)

Mariano_Rivera
09-26-2006, 02:10 PM
25% out of 4 teams that make the playoffs in each leageu. In short it makes no difference because each of those teams have a 25% chance of winning the pennant. Since it is 25.88% the MVP raises their chance by .88 percent ;)

yankillaz
09-26-2006, 02:22 PM
Not necessarily. The probability of a team winning the World Series throught history, since the MVP has been awarded is 29.86%. Therefore, the MVP recipient decreases a teams probability.

Of course, this is mathematical, it doesn't works like that at all in Baseball, but still...:crazy

candy curveball cummings
09-26-2006, 02:27 PM
25% out of 4 teams that make the playoffs in each leageu. In short it makes no difference because each of those teams have a 25% chance of winning the pennant. Since it is 25.88% the MVP raises their chance by .88 percent ;)

I see the argument here, but remember they only started taking 4 teams in 1993. Since 1993, an MVP has not won the world series the same year as their victory.

In fact, since 1993, only Chipper Jones and Barry Bonds have won the MVP and even gone to the WS in the same year.

geezer
09-26-2006, 09:16 PM
And the last player to be MVP for a World Champion was Kirk Gibson in 1988.

The last AL MVP to win a World Series was Willie Hernandez in 1984.