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EdmondsFan#1
09-25-2006, 03:58 PM
Okay, i am seriously going to sound retarded but:

So I was looking at wooden bats... Becuase... I just want a wood bat... But, i noticed it doesn't say the Oz.'es so how am i supposed to tell if it's too big or not?

Also, for a decent maple bat how much does it cost?

CanadianKid
09-25-2006, 04:04 PM
Wood bats are -3. So if it's a 33in bat its 30oz. Maple bats can run anywhere from $50-120.

I have a Easton Maple bat which I got for $50(US) and a Louisville and Rawlings Ash bats both of which I got for $20(US). All are 33/30.

jbooth
09-25-2006, 04:53 PM
Okay, i am seriously going to sound retarded but:

So I was looking at wooden bats... Becuase... I just want a wood bat... But, i noticed it doesn't say the Oz.'es so how am i supposed to tell if it's too big or not?

Also, for a decent maple bat how much does it cost?

It depends on their length and shape. I have a 34 inch 30 ounce, a 33 inch 33 ounce, a 30 inch 25 ounce, and a 31 inch 25 ounce.

It also depends on whether they have the cupped cut out in the head or not and the diameter of the bathead. The 34/30 has 2.5 inch barrel with a cut out. The 33/33 has a 2 5/8 inch barrel with no cut out.

You have to swing them and see how they feel.

hellborn
09-25-2006, 05:04 PM
Okay, i am seriously going to sound retarded but:

So I was looking at wooden bats... Becuase... I just want a wood bat... But, i noticed it doesn't say the Oz.'es so how am i supposed to tell if it's too big or not?

Also, for a decent maple bat how much does it cost?
Weights for a given model of wood bat are going to vary wildly due to variations in wood density, and different models will have widely varying barrel widths/lengths and handle thicknesses. Maple will also tend to be heavier than ash, as a result of which the models that are most commonly made in maple tend to have fairly slender barrels. I believe that hickory is even heavier than maple, but that wood is not very common anymore.

If you're buying a wood bat online, you're not really going to know exactly what the weight is until it shows up. The maker might give you an average, but it won't be a guarantee. Bats for pros are made to exact weights, but
the rest of us don't get that kind of service. :laugh

I think that I've seen maple from Mizuno for about $45 in stores...I think that most other makes are about $60-80 in stores. SamBats are around $120 in this area, and I'm not sure that I've even seen one since the spring. I heard that they were having production issues... :noidea

BMH
09-25-2006, 06:02 PM
Couldn't have said it better myself Hellborn:)

hellborn
09-25-2006, 06:30 PM
Couldn't have said it better myself Hellborn:)
Well, I did forget to mention cupping, but somebody else covered me on that!:p

I'm on cloud nine after getting a pat on the back from a bat pro...somebody pinch me!! :)

EdmondsFan#1
09-25-2006, 07:57 PM
Um... Two more things...


1. What's cloud nine mean :ughh

2. I found bamboo bats also, they cost more than the maple and the ash, are these worth it? I always knew whacking someone across the head with a bamboo stick really hurts but i'm sure a hunk of wood would hurt more ;)

jbooth
09-25-2006, 08:20 PM
Um... Two more things...


1. What's cloud nine mean :ughh

2. I found bamboo bats also, they cost more than the maple and the ash, are these worth it? I always knew whacking someone across the head with a bamboo stick really hurts but i'm sure a hunk of wood would hurt more ;)

Click the links below to find out what "being on cloud nine" means;

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-clo1.htm

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cloud_nine

Utility07
09-25-2006, 09:51 PM
Bamboo bats are harder, but also more brittle. Unless you are independently wealthy, not the way to go.

flea45
09-25-2006, 11:34 PM
i forked out 150 (AUS dollar) for a bamboo bat...it was pretty nice but i broke it second game on what seemed like fairly reasonable contact. Since then i have just stuck with mid-range maple bats and they have done me fine.

bbjunkie
09-26-2006, 04:41 AM
2. I found bamboo bats also, they cost more than the maple and the ash, are these worth it? I always knew whacking someone across the head with a bamboo stick really hurts but i'm sure a hunk of wood would hurt more ;)
My son got a bamboo bat a couple weeks ago. It was on sale for about $55. He loves it. I took a few swings with it. It seems to have better balance than wood bats. Based on my son's hitting, it seems to have better pop too. I have heard that they are supposed to stand up to punishment better than wood bats, but can't say that from personal experience.

Utility07
09-26-2006, 08:33 AM
No, the opposite is true, they break more easily. More pop than wood, yes, durability, no.

EdmondsFan#1
09-26-2006, 04:18 PM
The place I was at (online) was selling Pro Louisville slugger maple bats for $15. And bamboo bats for $45.

They were nice bats too...Also you could get a bat with your name on it or something for $70.

hellborn
09-27-2006, 01:54 PM
The place I was at (online) was selling Pro Louisville slugger maple bats for $15. And bamboo bats for $45.

They were nice bats too...Also you could get a bat with your name on it or something for $70.
$15 for LS maple is amazing! I think that the M9's sell for about $80 in stores around here (NH) now.
I do have to mention that maple feels a lot different from ash, at least to me. I found maple to feel rather harsh and jarring, although I don't have a lot of experience with it. If you're not already accustomed to ash, though, you probably won't have the same impression.
Both types of wood will feel WAY different than metal or composite, of course.

EdmondsFan#1
09-28-2006, 05:05 PM
$15 for LS maple is amazing! I think that the M9's sell for about $80 in stores around here (NH) now.
I do have to mention that maple feels a lot different from ash, at least to me. I found maple to feel rather harsh and jarring, although I don't have a lot of experience with it. If you're not already accustomed to ash, though, you probably won't have the same impression.
Both types of wood will feel WAY different than metal or composite, of course.

Yeah... I usually use a Easton CxN, so should i stick to that if it's going to feel that much different?

hellborn
09-28-2006, 08:24 PM
Yeah... I usually use a Easton CxN, so should i stick to that if it's going to feel that much different?
I would bet that you're never going to use a wood bat in a game situation when you realize how much more difficult it is to hit well with them...but, I also really love wood bats and think that every baseball player should have at least one. If you can pick up a nice maple bat for $15, you're not going to end up thinking that was wasted money.
For recreational play, I will only use wood...but, in a competitive game where I want every edge, I would only use my most effective bat, which would be my old Easton BX1 34.5/29.5, despite the fact that I have a rather extensive collection of wood bats down in the basement.
Of course, a league that allows only wood would make me really happy...I'm hoping to play in one next year.

MrUniverse09
09-28-2006, 08:28 PM
No, the opposite is true, they break more easily. More pop than wood, yes, durability, no.



no you're very incorrect


bamboo is very durable. I know of a company that puts 30 day warranties on their bamboo bats , they are so tough.

BMH
09-29-2006, 10:13 AM
All of the bamboo bats we make are a lamenent design. Yes, they are more durable than Ash, Beech, or Maple, but since they are not a solid piece of wood they aren't allowed in many leagues.

We only sell our bamboo bats in the Asian market...don't know why. We sell a wood composite bat here in the states. Its a wood bat with a fiberglass/resin coating over the bat.

hellborn
09-29-2006, 11:28 AM
All of the bamboo bats we make are a lamenent design. Yes, they are more durable than Ash, Beech, or Maple, but since they are not a solid piece of wood they aren't allowed in many leagues.

We only sell our bamboo bats in the Asian market...don't know why. We sell a wood composite bat here in the states. Its a wood bat with a fiberglass/resin coating over the bat.
Does bamboo even get wide enough to really be able to make a baseball bat from it without laminating? I can only recall seeing pretty skinny trees in photos.

BMH, does anybody ask for hickory anymore?? :D
Would have to be a real old school type...

jaxnbulldog
09-29-2006, 11:31 PM
My son plays in a fall wood bat league that provides bamboo Brett bats. They had one sawed off at the handle in the last game, the 7th game they have played in an 18 game schedule. (They broke a couple of Bretts last year also.)

He has a Mizuno maple composite that he uses in this league that he got last Christmas and has been using in the cages since then. It has held up very well. I believe it was $99 plus shipping when I bought it.

bbjunkie
10-02-2006, 04:03 AM
Does bamboo even get wide enough to really be able to make a baseball bat from it without laminating? I can only recall seeing pretty skinny trees in photos.
Bamboo is actually a grass. Its stem can get quite large (I don't know if it reaches 2 5/8 or 2 3/4 inches) but it would be way to light and insubstantial to use as a bat.

HardBallDad
10-02-2006, 09:27 AM
Guys,
No bamboo bat aren't made of single bamboo shutes, that's why they are made as composites. Composites are supposably stronger. We purchased one for a wood bat league, the boys didn't use it, didn't have as good of feel when they hit with it.

CanadianKid
10-02-2006, 09:45 AM
Most bamboo bats are bamboo core, like the Brett bats my team had. The store offered a 3 month warranty and if they chiped, frayed, dented or break in that 3month period you could replace it.

BMH
10-03-2006, 08:00 PM
No, I know we no longer make Hickory bats. With today's models and the weight range players want it's just not cost effective to make Hickory bats.

European Beech has been good to us, unfortunetly we have to order six months ahead and there is always more heavy timber than light pieces. Plus, right now the Euro is killing us :)

flea45
10-03-2006, 08:44 PM
Of course, a league that allows only wood would make me really happy...I'm hoping to play in one next year.

I play in two leagues - one a wood bat league and the other a metal bat leage:D

hellborn
10-03-2006, 09:46 PM
I play in two leagues - one a wood bat league and the other a metal bat leage:D
To quote Nappy D...LUCKEEEE!
Only metal, or is composite allowed?
What kind of wood bats do you use?