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IronMike
09-23-2006, 07:45 PM
Ouch :ughh . Broken leg. Man, this guy just cannot stay healthy :(
Dravecky43
09-23-2006, 07:58 PM
Oh, man, that collision was NASTY. Was Johnson's leg just swelling, or was that rounded look caused by the break? That was almost as bad as seeing Willis McGahee's knee go the wrong way in the National Championship a few years ago.
TheKingofKings
09-23-2006, 08:02 PM
My good wishes to Nicky , his Family and the Nats organisation , hopefully he will be ready for the spring .
Jose Reyes
09-23-2006, 09:08 PM
Oh it was only a broken leg. I think that's actually good news. It looked like it could've been ligament damage around the knee which easily could've ended his career. I have to say that Nick was always my favorite Yankee and I still like him. I'm not sure why David Wright kept running around the bases for a triple, especially up 5 runs, but whatever. Get well soon Nick!
Mattingly
09-23-2006, 09:19 PM
I must've missed that part. I'd seen part of the Mets' game, when Billy Wagner pitched the 9th, but that was in a restaurant I was eating in at the time.
Nats concerned about Johnson, not loss
Johnson collides with Kearns trying to catch a popup in right (http://www.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/gameday_recap.jsp?ymd=20060923&content_id=1677950&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=was)
NEW YORK -- The Nationals actually suffered two losses on Saturday afternoon at Shea Stadium, though the outcome of the game was far less important to Washington players.
Nick Johnson suffered a fractured right femur in the eighth inning of the Nationals' 12-6 loss to the Mets at Shea Stadium, colliding with right fielder Austin Kearns in pursuit of a pop fly.
Several players described hearing a loud "crack" at the moment of impact, and after listening to Johnson scream in pain and writhe on the outfield turf, several Nationals admitted the game soon became an afterthought.
"I think you could tell," third baseman Ryan Zimmerman said. "Everyone -- the fans, the players in the game -- everyone just kind of wanted to quit and not play that last inning."
The Nationals scored one run in the ninth inning to cut the Mets' lead to six runs, but they did so with heavy hearts, thinking of Johnson. The first baseman was taken to a local hospital for examination.
RegoRooter
09-23-2006, 11:56 PM
Oh it was only a broken leg. I think that's actually good news. It looked like it could've been ligament damage around the knee which easily could've ended his career. I have to say that Nick was always my favorite Yankee and I still like him. I'm not sure why David Wright kept running around the bases for a triple, especially up 5 runs, but whatever. Get well soon Nick!
I'm not sure David Wright knew exactly what was happening until he got to 3rd base. So in his defense, there's no reason why he should have pulled up at second.
But it was very classy of David and Willie Randolph to go out to right field and try and give comfort to Johnson while he was being attended to by his Nat teammates and the medical staff. Best wishes to Nick. I heard he was operated on tonight.
wilkerson_rulz-06
09-24-2006, 04:17 AM
The creator of this thread better learn one thing:
NICK JOHNSON is having a career year and he has not been on the DL once this year!
538280
09-24-2006, 11:35 AM
Nick Johnson is one of the most underrated players in baseball right now, honestly. With all that's been swirling around Alfonso Soriano, really Johnson has arguably been the better player this season:
Johnson: .290/.428/.520
Soriano: .284/.357/.575
Johnson has a 71 point edge in OBP. Soriano has a 55 point edge in SLG, but considering the smaller scale one point of OBP is quite a bit more important than one point of SLG. Soriano does have an edge in the basestealing/staying out of GIDP area, and for that reason their offensive production has been close. But Johnson's has been better. RC/27 is 8.56 for Johnson to 8.15 for Soriano. .325 EqA to .301. Johnson has been the more productive offensive player-and just about every formal statistical analysis agrees...
I'm very glad to have Soriano on my team. He's been great, and has brought a positive note to an otherwise dismal season. He's been awesome for the team...but Nick Johnson has been better, triple crown statistics be damned.
EvanAparra
09-24-2006, 11:39 AM
The creator of this thread better learn one thing:
NICK JOHNSON is having a career year and he has not been on the DL once this year!
Yeah, look at the rest of his career.
Baseball Guru
09-24-2006, 12:50 PM
The creator of this thread better learn one thing:
NICK JOHNSON is having a career year and he has not been on the DL once this year!
Well in defense to the thread starter, until this season he hadn't been healthy...
I'm not sure why David Wright kept running around the bases for a triple, especially up 5 runs, but whatever. Get well soon Nick!
You really thought Wright knew he was hurt that bad as he was running the bases? Its not like the play was made right in front of him.. As a hitter, your 1st instinct is to leg out whatever you can get as far as bases go...
trosmok
09-25-2006, 11:47 AM
Oh, man, that collision was NASTY. Was Johnson's leg just swelling, or was that rounded look caused by the break?....
When I wore a younger man's uniform, I was a state certified emergency medical technician. From experience, it wasn't very often we'd see a fractured femur (thigh bone), or scapula (shoulder blade), but when we did, it was really ghastly. The big bones have really big muscles attatched to them, and when a femur breaks clean through, the quadriceps, hamstring, glutes, sartorious and everthing between the waist and knee contracts since they depend on a rigid bone to stay in place. The agony is unimaginable as the muscles pull the knee towards the groin, the sciatic nerve goes absolutely haywire, and the tell tale presentation is the foot will be twisted in and noticibly higher than the other, not to mention crippling pain and screaming. A little traction and titanium makes things much better, plus the femur being the site of most blood production in the marrow makes this kind of break quick to heal, compared to the soft tissue that was traumatized by the bone fracture. Wish a speedy recovery to the big guy, and Austin Kearns was very fortunate to be no worse for wear after the horrific collision.
Shoeless
09-26-2006, 11:59 AM
Ouch...Trosmok, did we really need to hear the exact details?
But as to 528280's post, I think I heard the same thing but it's not because OBP numbers are smaller (making one point proportionally more), it's because the amount of variability in the big leagues is less, so a ten point increase moves you higher up the OBP rankings than the SLG% rankings.
I agree that Johnson may be better though. I was pleasantly surprised when the Expos got him.
flea45
09-26-2006, 09:01 PM
I'm not sure why David Wright kept running around the bases for a triple, especially up 5 runs, but whatever.
I never know why people do this...like when pitchers get hit by line drives, and the infield run in the check the pitcher and the batter scurries off for a double. I think thats wrong. I also though last year, when Beltran and Cameron had the sickening diving collision (i have been in one...it sucks) the runner (i think Giles from SD from memory?) bolted of too third base as if the game depended on it, with this collision right in front of hhim. I do think thats wrong... especially in really dangerous collison like that one. The more sorta just running standing up collisions (Melky and Damon this year, on Nick Swisher's inside-the-parker) i think are alright to run on...but not ones liek the mets one last year when they are that serious.
Just read through that post...probably makes no sensebut i hope someone can try to realize what i am trying to say!
ESPNFan
09-26-2006, 09:21 PM
When I wore a younger man's uniform, I was a state certified emergency medical technician. From experience, it wasn't very often we'd see a fractured femur (thigh bone), or scapula (shoulder blade), but when we did, it was really ghastly. The big bones have really big muscles attatched to them, and when a femur breaks clean through, the quadriceps, hamstring, glutes, sartorious and everthing between the waist and knee contracts since they depend on a rigid bone to stay in place. The agony is unimaginable as the muscles pull the knee towards the groin, the sciatic nerve goes absolutely haywire, and the tell tale presentation is the foot will be twisted in and noticibly higher than the other, not to mention crippling pain and screaming. A little traction and titanium makes things much better, plus the femur being the site of most blood production in the marrow makes this kind of break quick to heal, compared to the soft tissue that was traumatized by the bone fracture. Wish a speedy recovery to the big guy, and Austin Kearns was very fortunate to be no worse for wear after the horrific collision.
Man I have seen lots of bad injuries first hand and you are correct, as far as broken bones go the femur is grotesque. Just the sound when it happened was enough to stop 30 guys on a rugby feild.
Lets Hope Nicky J. has a major change in his luck with injuries after this because he has had more than his fair share.